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Posted by Matthew Gilbert  December 4, 2008 06:23 AM

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Talk television with Globe TV critic Matthew Gilbert(12/04/2008) 
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12:02
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Good morning-afternoon.

12:02
[Comment From sammywhite]
I have Six Feet Under, The Wire, and Dexter on my Netflix queue. Which series should I watch first?

12:04
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Hmmm. I would start with Six Feet Under -- black comedy, psychological melodrama. Then I'd go to The Wire -- brilliant but difficult look at urban life and the failure of our systems. And finally, finish up with Dexter, which is a good time (with blood and moral complexity).

12:04
[Comment From Donnie]
Hi Mr. Gilbert, what are the chances that Dirty Sexy Money could be picked up by another network? If it fails in one network, is it less likely another will pick it up? What's the process?

12:05
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I haven't heard any rumors afoot about Dirty Sexy Money getting picked up elsewhere.

12:05
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Boo

12:05
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  hoo

12:06
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  And I don't think of it as a show that would find its way to another outlet, partly because it's a serial drama and would probably not draw any new viewers.

12:06
[Comment From EliG]
Heard anything about Scrubs' return? I miss JD and the gang.

12:07
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Speaking of getting picked up... Scrubs will be back on ABC next month. And I've seen the first two episodes. And I gotta say, they weren't bad.

12:08
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I've been a little soured on Scrubs in recent seasons, because it has seemed past its prime, burnt out. At its best, SCrubs was EXTRAORDINARY and imaginative and original, and it has been painful to watch it wane. BUT: Maybe the move to ABC reignited the writers and the cast. Fingers crossed.

12:09
[Comment From bos]
Hi Matthew -- what's new? What's the worst show out there right now? I mean, the worst.

12:10
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Wow. My first instinct is to go for the default "worst show," which is According to Jim. It's just the embodiment of the bad sitcom -- gender stereotypes, domestic stupidity, loud laugh track, etc. etc.

12:10
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  BUT

12:11
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  

if I say According to Jim, I'll be ignoring all the horrific reality shows out there, to wit: Celebrity Rehab. It's so bad it's good, I guess, but still: IT IS SO BAD.


12:11
[Comment From jason]
Was that Lost clip really that good, or am I just really looking forward to it coming back?

12:12
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  "The Lost clip is good." signed, God.

12:13
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  

It is great to see Lost again, though, and to note that years have passed. Lost always makes the viewer feel like time is moving and things are happening. I love that feeling (even though we still don't know what's going on).


12:13
[Comment From Skippy]
Do you think we will ever see an end to these boring awards shows (wiped off the map altogether?)

12:15
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I don't think they will die out completely. There may be a winnowing process, though, and fewer of those shows will make it to the air. There are just too many awards shows on TV right now, and so none of them has any specialness anymore.

12:17
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Viewers are not bothering to tune in.

12:17
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Also, TV, movie, and music audiences have become more fractured; so fewer people are interested in the nominees and who wins.

12:17
[Comment From Brian]
Was the premiere of the Rosie O'Donnell show the worst thing you've ever seen on TV? Does this pig (I mean the show) have ANY hope of surviving?

12:17
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Woops. I should have edited that last q.

12:18
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  New technology'll getcha.

12:18
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Rosie isn't a pig. But the show was ...

12:18
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  how can I put this?

12:18
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  AW-freaking-FUL.

12:19
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  It was shockingly cheesy and bad.

12:19
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Even Rosie has declared the show, and its potential to become a series, dead on arrival. So I don't imagine NBC deciding to gear up for more.

12:20
[Comment From cheesesteak]
So I hear there were firings among the creative team behind Heroes, were those firings affecting the output for this half season or do we have to wait to the next "volume" begins to see how a new creative direction is working out?

12:21
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Yeah, I wouldn't get too excited about the potential impact of those firings. The show has lost its way permanently, I'm afraid. The firings struck me as kind of token, to buy those involved a little more time.

12:23
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Tim Kring was on Elvis Mitchell's radio show a week or two ago (you can podccast it), and he just sounded so mired in audience response and formalistic methods. The heart of the story -- the human-scaled story of people whose power makes them outsiders -- has been lost for good, I fear.

12:23
[Comment From bobo]
Matt, what do you think about how Dexter is shaping up? Been some incredible episodes me thinks.

12:24
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Methinks, too. I was anxious for an episode or two, because the whole Jimmy Smits plot seemed out of the show's usual range of believability. But now it has gotten fun. I LOVE seeing Smits play evil.

12:24
[Comment From sandybeach]
I'm still loving How I Met Your Mother, but am curious how they'll incorporate 2 pregnancies of cast members. Babies always screw up good shows.

12:25
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I agree. SO agree. We'll see. I loved it that Marshall and Lily recently decided NOT to have a baby, even though Alyson Hannigan is preggers. That felt like an in-joke.

12:26
[Comment From fromMA]
I enjoyed Son's of Anarchy (always like the shows where you feel for "bad" people) . Did you like it or have any issues with it? Also I thought casting Ron Perlman as the leader was strange but really liked his acting

12:27
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I really like Sons of Anarchy. I think making audiences feel for "bad" people is a really interesting (and currently popular) approach to drama. It forces us to get involved, to feel our head at war with our heart.

12:28
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  But I never quite adjusted to Perlman. I wanted that character to have... charisma.

12:28
[Comment From Kenny]
Why is Eli Stone getting cancelled? It is one of the most creative and enjoyable shows out there now.

12:28
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  

I hate to break this to you so coldly. But the reason Eli was cancelled was


12:29
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  ratings.

12:29
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Which is another word for money.

12:29
[Comment From Kenny]
What is your opinion of that show?

12:30
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Eli? I liked, but never loved, it. I felt like I'd seen it before, on any number of David E. Kelley shows, but especially Ally McBeal.

12:30
[Comment From Guest]
What is the latest news on Lost. Is this the final season or can we expect more next year?

12:31
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  This forthcoming season, on Jan. 21 (WOO HOO), is the fifth and penultimate season. There will be one more after that, and then that's it (unless, god forbid, movies are made).

12:31
[Comment From bobo]
If you don't mind one more Dexter post....overall the cast is just great but I totally agree with you that Jennifer Carpenter is AMAZING. I just love it when she's in a scene because she seems so real and not cookie cutter at all like you often see on TV.

12:31
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Ibid, bobo.

12:32
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Jennifer Carpenter is a live wire on Dexter. She's also dramatically sound. Love her, and will lobby for her to get an Emmy nom. She fully deserves one.

12:33
[Comment From Jane]
Can you tell me why Boston Legal is going off the air.

12:34
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I think it has just run its course, both creatively and in terms of ratings. We tend to want our favorite shows to last forever, but, really, they shouldn't. Have you seen Law & Order lately. It has gotten pretty stooopid.

12:34
[Comment From Guest]
Have you seen any previews of the new lost can it live up to the last season now that half the cast is off the island?

12:35
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I've seen only the clip that ABC released (and that I posted on Viewer Discretion). And I loved it. And I FULLY expect this season to be great and surprising.

12:35
[Comment From Kathy]
Any idea when Big Love will start it's season?

12:36
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Yes, next month. I believe it starts on Jan. 18.

12:36
[Comment From bobo]
Love the scene when Dexter told her that Rita was preg and her reaction was all over the map and turned on a dime from glee to almost disgust. Anyway, what do you hear about 30 Rock? Please tell me Tina Fey is going to be doing that show for at least a few more seasons. She's also incredible, tho perhaps in danger of being overexposed.

12:37
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Jennifer Carpenter -- perfect match up of actress and role. Wish I didn't know she's dating Michael C. Hall, aka Dexter, aka her TV brother.

12:38
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  

I am hoping that 30 rock will rock on for a few more years -- but no more. The show is fresh, and still has energy. Let's hope it leaves on a high.


12:39
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  They need to STOP the revolving door of guest stars soon. That will undermine the inner life of the show, as well as our connection to the regular castmembers.

12:39
[Comment From danielle]
What do you think about the new direction House has taken these past two seasons?

12:41
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I'm a House loyalist. I see the writers flailing around a bit, to keep the show interesting and to keep Hugh Laurie inspired. But I've liked most of this season so far (although that hostage episode was ... wow. bad.).

12:42
[Comment From Matt]
Do you think it's a good idea for Fox to match up Terminator and Dollhouse on Friday nights?

12:42
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I was disappointed to hear that Fox was dumping Dollhouse on Fridays. Sounds like they don't have much faith in the show.

12:43
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Poor Joss Whedon. How do you follow Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

12:44
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  That said, it might form some kind of unexpected mini-juggernaut with Terminator. The expectations are low for fridays. Remember: The X Files began on Fridays.

12:44
[Comment From LostFan789]
Do you think Bryan Fuller going back to Heroes will help...at all...even a little bit?

12:45
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I'm SO DOWN on Heroes, I can't seem to muster any more hope. I feel particularly burned by Heroes -- I'll have to ask my therapist.

12:45
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  It was just SO promising during the first season. And then it became the Great Hope of NBC, and it got fat and sloppy.

12:46
[Comment From danielle]
And what about the enigmatic Thirteen? Us House fans seem to be divided on that one. Is she given too much air time? Story arcs seem to focus more on her than the other team members (Taub/Kutner/Chase/Cameron/Foreman), who are more like props than characters. They seem to be there to fill in the medical dialogue...

12:46
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Maybe it's cause she's so purdy?

12:46
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Maybe it's because the writers are building her character up so that they can...
Well...

12:46
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  you know...

12:47
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  off her. Because she's going to get sick, right?

12:47
[Comment From danielle]
kill her?

12:47
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Bingo.

12:47
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  But I don't have any spoilery info to that effect. It's just my guess.

12:48
[Comment From Guest]
Speaking of HBO what happen to Deadwood? I thought this was a great series any chance of it coming back?

12:48
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  No *$&@#* chance.

12:49
[Comment From gecko]
Also, is there ever gonna be those Deadwood movies we were promised?

12:49
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I keep hearing No, especially now that HBO is really trying to move into the future.

12:49
[Comment From Matt]
Any reason you're down on Pushing Daisies this year compared to last year? I'll miss Emerson Cod's sarcasm.

12:51
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I just reached my fill. I feel badly about that -- because I respect the show's originality, and wish I could feel inspired to root for it. But I found myself struggling to get through episodes. The stylization -- visual AND verbal -- started to get on my nerves.

12:51
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I don't think the show plunged in quality this year. It was just my own response.

12:52
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Dirty Sexy Money, while still entertaining and addictive, may have lost a little oomph over the summer, though.

12:52
[Comment From LostFan789]
Lost movie coming in 2012, what do you think???? I'd be outraged at first, then very curious...

12:53
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I'd just be outraged. I HATE it that the Sex and the City people propped up the show -- which left the air because it had reached its creative peak -- for a big-screen round. THe whole thing smacked of greed to me. There was no creative motivation behind that one.

12:54
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  And I suspect that that would be the case with a Lost movie -- let's milk the brand as much as we can.

12:54
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I'm a big fan of "leave em wanting more," but ...

12:54
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  maybe that's unAmerican of me.

12:54
[Comment From Kelly]
Do you know if NBC decided to keep Lipstick Jungle? I heard it got cancelled and it didn't?

12:56
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  It is in some kind of weird limbo right now, where NBC is watching the ratings extremely closely and not taking down the show's sets. But I do think it's a goner, and that all of this fan energy and positivity won't amount to much.

12:56
[Comment From LostFan789]
Obligatory Chuck promo: People, watch it!!! I hope the ratings go up with Dancing off the air now...

12:56
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Done.

12:56
[Comment From LostFan789]
But I can't live in a world with no lost at all. Makes me sad just to think of it. :(

12:57
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Life can be sad, LostFan. But you will survive and land on your feet.

12:57
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  And some other seductive show will catch your eye.

12:57
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  And you will forever honor the memory of your beloved Lost.

12:58
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  But you will follow that new show whereever it leads you.

12:58
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  And you will be happy once again.

12:58
[Comment From hockeyfan]
What do you hear about ``Dollhouse''? I heard they reshot the pilot because the network hated it. I love Eliza Dushku. She's great in everything.

12:59
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I heard the same thing. I also know that Fox is going to air the show on Fridays, which isn't a big vote of confidence. But we'll see.

12:59
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  I've learned to listen to the pre-release stories, but to always reserve my judgment until I've actually seen the finished product.

1:00
[Comment From hockeyfan]
I despise reality TV. Any chance it's going away any time soon? Ninety-nine percent of it is crap.

1:01
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Sorry, hockeyfan. Reality TV will be with us for some time to come -- the contest shows, the D-list celebrity stuff, and the documentary Discovery he-man type stuff. But there's so much space on TV, you don't need to watch any of them. Just stay apprised of what's out there, get a DVR, and create your own que of shows.

1:02
Matthew Gilbert, TV guy:  Friends, thank you for showing up today. See you next week? MG

1:03




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4 comments so far...
  1. What about In Treatment? Any idea if/when that will resurface?

    Posted by InTreatmentFan December 4, 08 11:02 AM
  1. how come the Sunday Globe no longer includes a TV Guide?

    Posted by Homer December 4, 08 11:18 AM
  1. Can you tell me why Boston Legal is being taken off.

    Posted by jane December 4, 08 11:18 AM
  1. Second on #2

    I really miss not having a paper week long TV guide in the Sunday Paper! I was hoping The Globe would correct this before I switch papers when my subscription ends.

    Please put it back we all miss it!!

    Posted by Dan December 11, 08 09:29 AM
 

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