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| November 28, 2008 |
Mumbai under attack
Late Wednesday night, Mumbai, India found itself the target of a ferocious terrorist attack, and the situation remains unresolved even now, three days later. According to reports, upwards of 60 young men entered Mumbai in small inflatable boats on Wednesday night, carrying bags filled with weapons and ammunition, and spread out to nine locations to begin their attacks. Lobbing grenades and firing their weapons, they entered hotels, a railway station and several other buildings, killing scores and wounding even more. As of this moment, the identity of the attackers has yet to be definitively determined, though there are reports indicating some of the gunmen were Pakistani - at least nine of them have been killed, nine more arrested. As of this writing, there were a reported 151 people killed from 11 different countries - though nearly 100 were Indian. More than 300 injuries have also been reported - those numbers may yet rise as several hostage situations still exist in the city. (35 photos total)
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2760 comments so far...




so sad...
i hope they kill all the terrorists
they dont deserve to live
Truly terrifying.
Horrible attacks, obviously, I hope the people of India can stand tall in the aftermath.
Incredible pictures. Amazing. Heartbreaking. I don't have enough words. Maybe tears will do.
people are crazy
I hope at least now USA opens its eyes stops giving ANY kind of support to Pakistan!!!
This is nothing camparing to what's happening in Palestine and kachmir. So don't talk too much.
I'm speechless..
Powerful. Some of the most powerful photos I've seen on here. Where is the humanity?
A city bleeds, nation mourns and an army of heroes who have dedicated their lives to the country fight a savage battle with extremists to restore peace and order. But the truth is the terrorists have claimed victory and a small section of their inhumane breed will call them martyrs. Cowards they are. If this what their religion teaches them to do, then I am proud not be born as one among them. Its true, they only represent a small fraction and others from their community cant be held responsible, but my heart cries looking at these images. These are common people from all walks of life. People who are at peace with the word while they fight their own individual battles. Do they deserve to be caught in this ghastly act.
Shame on those who participate and perpetuate these. Shame on your so called religion.
"Religion of Peace" indeed.
Very powerful photos. Very Moving. Thanks for posting.
"This is nothing camparing to what's happening in Palestine and kachmir. So don't talk too much."
An they're nothing compared to Darfur, which in turn is nothing compared to what went on in Rwanda which in turn is nothing compared to the deaths each year from road traffic accidents.
This is an horrific event. As is the murder of even a single individual.
Let's not start making statements like and address the issues of what happened and why.
Who the f&&k is this Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar ??? 1st off learn how to spell Kashmir then learn that every life is priceless ....if you dont want to talk too much then get your f&&king mouth shut....OK?
Alan, you really have a way of putting these photo essays together in a way that makes sense to me.
And the terrorists? Animals all of them. It is so "brave of them" being able to mount a surprise attack on unarmed people going about their daily lives. Terrorists and all those who sent them will all be going to hell - for eternity.
The terrorists who commited these crimes will surely pay for their deeds if not in this life than in the next. They will pay for their crimes for all of eternity. God will have no mercy.....
seeing this we feel so disgusted. we cant leave our country in the hands of these politicians....time has come we have 2 take the countrys responsibility in our hands.......this has happened only because our great leaderrs are busy fighting among themselves....terrorists destroy life and property....and our leaders also do the same....then whts the difference........
Too much violence, Too much bloodshed.
I hope All terrorist and everybody behind these attacks dies a painful death.
India is a peaceful country, and we will answer this bloodshed with peace too. No more ANY kind of relation with a "'P'articular country' who supports terrorists.
These pictures say the horror that we all have gone thru these past days.... Cant even call them beautiful pictures cos they transform the fear that we all went thru in gloss... All de best n pls take a few pics of the brave NSG guards who have really made us see the new day with hope...
our religion does not teach this,and what do you want to say about the incident which happened in gujrat a few years back???when 30,000 innocent muslims were killed???is that what your religion teach you???
It looks like Al'Hazrad is the next psycho terrorist recruit. islam is truly f*cked up
To Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar :
You sir, deserve NO respect whatsoever. Small minded idiots like you are the one's responsible for everything that is wrong in the world today.
Incredible, Incredible photos. I have no idea how you manage to ge the best photos while major news sources don't seem to have them.
I feel so sorry for everyone involved
What a bunch of freaking NUT JOBS!
Al Hazrad is a fkin retard.......a shame on my religion!
It's NOT Islam that is f***ed up, it's the LUNATICS who kill in its name--they are not Muslims, they're nuts. Just like the Christian fundamentalists in the US who are not real Christians, either. They are just using the name for protection, as if it could justify their actions.
Why are these people referred to as "Militant Islamists" and not Terrorists ? Is it some sudden fit of political correctness or is that only when Americans/White People are attacked,then the bad guys are called Terrorists ? Such lousy double standards are definitely a minor issue compared to the loss of life but it betrays the attitude of those in the west.
The commands are showing incredible patience in trying to grab the last terrorists from Taj alive. It is only if they are captured alive, the true people behind these atrocities can be found out and brought to justice. Killing them is easier than capturing them alive.
Nice pictures. We have been following the entire episode glued to our TVs, computers for the last 48 hours.
omg this is so terrible, when will this end?
Chan from TheJunction
@Asma Ali : Who the heck told you 30,000 muslims died ? Bin Laden ? A total of 1000 people died - of which 750 were Muslims and the rest Hindus.And besides this was in retaliation for the earlier incident where around 60 Hindu pilgrims (two-thirds of whom were women and children) were burnt alive by a blood-thirsty mob of 2000 Muslims.
And yes - this is exactly what your religion teaches you.
C'mon ppl. This is not what Islam is about. It's not like you kill someone and tell everyone ok I'm Muslim and everyone thinks so this is Islam huh? This is truely f*cked up ... no religion teaches killing. The blame is on human being himself.
The world is stone.
La religion entraine pour les plus faibles l'extremisme... Pourquoi vouloir imposer son opinion à d'autres ?
Beaucoup d'incompréhension de la part du petit occidental que je suis.
this would not have happened if we had send the troops into afghanistan and pakistan that we had wasted in Iraq... thank you bush the world is so much safer now. mission accomplished.
""Religion of Peace" indeed."
Are you psychic? You seem to be the only one that knows who did this.
Horrible. Last time I checked Bush who is responsible of killing of hundreds of thousands innocent people is not Muslim.
Terrorist should not be killed with a Gun. They should be put in in a Pig Farm after cutting their Legs & Hands..
aside from the terrorism i think it's really bad that the photographer took pictures of injured people instead of helping them...inhuman if you ask me
Death is too good for such terrorists.
it is very unfortunate. I salute the martyrs who laid their precious lives to save the lives of innocent public.I sincerely believe that at least now the government machinery wakes up and take necessary steps and programmes to prevent such mishappenings in future.deep consolence to all the members who lost their near and dear ones.
These terrorists represent Islam just as much as Timothy McVeigh represent Christianity.
The abject poverty and lack of education in Pakistan has created these brain-washed murdering groups and yes it is Pakistan's responsibility to do something about it. But keep in mind, Pakistan itself has lost hundreds of troops trying to fight them and has 10,000 soldiers deployed against them.
These terrorists kill to instill fear. They don't really care if they're killing Pakistani, Indian, American, British... as long as it will instill fear in the populace and might lead to their demands.
@ Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar - U would probably kill more people.. life does not mean anything to you. I pity on you.
@asma - Terrorism cant be justified by anything at all.. anything.. I bet you love your life too.. Dont live with a narrow thinking.. and of course get ur figures right.
Why ?
I would like to draw the attention of you all to this sample list of casualties here and kindly note the number of Muslim names... These terrorists HAVE NO RELIGION!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3063776574_ac83394041_b.jpg
@ April
"It's NOT Islam that is f***ed up, it's the LUNATICS who kill in its name--they are not Muslims, they're nuts. Just like the Christian fundamentalists in the US who are not real Christians, either. They are just using the name for protection, as if it could justify their actions."
Actually, it is Islam that is "f*cked up." History has endless tales about how religion after religion is ABUSED through bloody crusades that defy the very core of the religion in question. However, there is only one single religion on this planet that, word by word, in its "holy" scripture, actually CALLS upon its followers to behead and shed the blood of the "non-believers" - those who refuse to convert - and that is Islam. Yes, really, the Quran LITERALLY calls for it. "By own will or by the sword."
You dwell on that for a while before again stating that Islam is a peaceful religion.
Until the world moves away from any and all religions and adopts a secular world view and perspective on things, these tragic acts will unfortunately continue to happen.
I cried while viewing these images for so many reasons. My heart goes out to the families of the victims of the senseless, cowardly acts.
One wonders just how much more Muslim mischief the world is going to tolerate before it acts decisively against this "religion".
Islam is the single greatest threat to world civilization since Nazism.
India (Specially Tamil Nadu) kind of asked for it, by giving support to LTTE terrorists in Sri Lanka.
Why doesnt the indian army storm the hotels like they did the Golden temple?
@kiwus - They weren't injured, they were dead.
Is anyone paying any attention at all to the fact that the Qu'ran actually coerces its believers to "convert" every non-believer by any means possible, incl. taking their heads off if they don't chose to convert by so called free will?
This is something unique to this religion alone. No other religion in the history of mankind except Islam praises the killing of another man.
T
How much longer can the civilized world turn the other cheek? What is needed is an united front from the U.S.,Russia, China, the E.U. to crush these vermin, where ever they hide.
Islam is the religion of peace and they will kill you to prove it.
Kindly check the list of casualties which is already out. And look at the number of Muslim names on that list...
These terrorists HAVE NO RELIGION.
I was at St George's hospital on Thursday morning. Saw much the same as photo'd here. Devastating stuff.
horrible, even more because a relativly small group of people can do such havoc.
I think bush thinks twice next time he says shock and awe.
Makes you question your own safety and that of your children. shivering with the thought of it, they just kill at random just to get attention and respect from a group of simple blinded by religion people. sad indeed.
Thank god (or allah) that its just a small group of people that are extremists.
@ oswald .... Cuz in Golden temple..it was just the militants who were holed up.....This is a hostage situation..
We should kill these filthy torturers and terrorists. But first, we should ram how wires through their gonads, and make them drink goat urine. Then we kill them.
These religious zealots and their endless bigotry are f*cking up the world. There is NO justification for this and no excuses.
The only ones responsible for this are these medieval f*ck-ups themselves. I hope India will react with overwhelming power and wipe these nutjobs out of India.
What is this ancient human inate behaviour constantly achieving whe thre are levels of love.
Its true that terrorists don't have any religion..But sadly, everyone will take up this chance to throw mud on Islam once again. Does anyone ever stop to ask the normal/sane Muslim what he thinks? There will be many who will commit such horrific acts, but then there are others who will have a voice of reason! Sadly, no one focusses on them!
Fantastic work this is really photo journalism.
@ Robin,
you think every person with a beard is a terrorist? then why Jews, they have beard too, so why not call them terrorists?
are u sure Quran says to kill those 'non-believers'? read the scripture first, then read the islamic history, by then you will regret what you've said here.
Islam DOESN'T force anyone to convert islam, its upto their own freewill.
Its non-muslims in the name of muslims who kill and fight for revenge.
are we really so helpless..plz answer.
Everyone seems to forget the past and the atrocities the Christian Crusades brought to the whole of the world. Religion as whole is messed up never mind concentrating the blame on Islam when things like this have been happening for centuries. The development of the media has just exposed the brutality of these actions to the vast majority of the world, don't blame Islam. Blame Religion.
Very sad.
This is very disturbing. I hope this ends soon.
Tragedy seems so surreal in 8 X 5 glossy.
Islam, Islam, Islam only responsible for the whole mischief in the world. It started crusades, world Wars, Vietnam War, Afghan War and Iraq War. But the fact is, Islam ruled over Spain for more than 300 years, but still it is inhibited by non-muslins. Why didn’t they kill all those infidels or converted them to Islam? Why not in India where Muslims ruled for more than 700 years? Why there are still non-Muslims Arabs in middle east? Why such events occur at the times when India and Pakistan come close to negotiations? Why was a serving Indian army Hindu colonial arrested this month for killing and attacking a Hindu village? Alas! Minds have been so brain washed by Faux news propaganda for last 8 years that even morons switching to internet/web still live with that crap and never try find the truth.
Pakistan = Terrorism = Pakistan
Yes folks, even if you feel angry in such a situation, and feel that muslim religion & muslim people are the culprits, lets please wait, think for a moment and not just blame every muslim in this world. I am a indian hindu, i have not read any holy book of my religion completely, neither i have read the koran or bible. Whatever these books teach, ultimately its the human being who acts. So the blame is on the person. please don't blame the entire community for it. I know many muslim friends who don't care about their/other's religions and just carry on their life as a normal person.
And its true, these terrorists don't have any eligion.
its amazin how ordinary these terrorists look
with a population of billions, we hv no right to blame our security agencies of being incapable of identifying these scoundrels
our security forces hv done a brilliant job today...God bless them!!!
Very sad.
not all muslims are terroritst, but most of the terrorists are muslims
let's face the facts.
there are more than billion hinduses
no reason for sadness
As difficult as it is to see these photos, it is important to look upon them to realize the magnitude of the destruction to human life. These photos bring home the fact that victims aren't anonymous objects, but people with hopes and dreams cut short. I left Mumbai the day of the attacks - had I prolonged my trip by a single day I would have been at the Taj, at Leopold's, or walking the streets of South Mumbai at the moment the attacks erupted. My thoughts are with those I met or passed in the streets of Mumbai during my short stay in this beautiful city. Although I am home safely in Montreal, my mind and heart remain in Mumbai.
I am gutted that terrorists in a mob can descend into a capital city & wreck so much havoc with loss of life.......I am impressed by the positive policing & the professional action by the Indian Military. After living 25 years in Northern Ireland - over the years of "troubles" I know that there is no soft option.
I just hope the Indian Authorities sort the problem quickly & restore the calm that this city generally has
Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar you need some further education.
Unreal. Extremism is what this is, using religion as an excuse to justify the truly grave nature of these crimes. I am a Hindu and have many friends from many religions. You cannot blame the Muslim religion for the actions of a few. We need to practice towards a non-violent world. As Mahatma Gandhi once said "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." and "You must be the change you want to see in people". Kudos to the unnamed "Heroes". India will recover as she always has. Jai Hind!
Islam has nothing to do with this. The Quran forbids the killing of innocents. The Islamophobes are sick people trying to divert attention away from the crisis onto their own ideological agenda.
I can show you thousands of photos of similar events, but with Christians as the militant, or Jews as the militant, or Hindus as the militant, etc. This type of action is not limited to Muslims. Photos like these tend to incite our emotions. If we were to look at photos of the Iraq war, we might just lose our appetite to still want to be there even one day more. But believe it or not, OUR news is censored. The land of the free, we are not.
The Messiah Obama will cure all the world's problems...we will be at peace beginning on January 21st 2009.
If this can happen in India, it can happen in the United States. My govt needs to stop funding terrorist states like Pakistan. Shame on you George Bush for continuing aid to this country.
My heart goes out to those murdered, and to their families. I never want to see such horrific pictures again, but I know I will, so long as Islamists are permitted to coexist with the rest of civilized humanity.
Get rid of these people before they destroy the world .What cowards and losers these people are.
I hope Obama and Bush talk to Pakistan on this.
If anyone knows Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar, please help him mend his broken heart before others must suffer from it.
Stunning pics, indeed capture most of the tragedy. Its high time the Indian Government looks beyond the myopic vote bank related vested interests and declares a nationwide emergency against repeated incidents of terrorism. A mere pretension of bouncing back to normalcy is no bravado, rather would result in a perennial state of being numb and insecure.
Where are the political leaders now? We can't find any one coming out to help the suffering people? Don't come out for the elections infront of us
I don't want to point fingers at Islam but can anyone enlighten me why most of the terrorists almost all over the world have some or the other link to Pakistan ? Kabul, London, Madrid, Mumbai, NYC, Bali .....and the list is endless ....??? So I wonder if Pakistan is the problem ???
Blaming this on Islamists only helps their cause. These people gave up religion a long time ago. No religion preaches such acts of barbarism. Just call them terrorists no matter whether they're Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jews, or any other religion.
Actually, in India, situation is aggravated by pseudo secularist politicians and their pimps in media. Muslims also get swayed by their false promises and divide and conquer strategy. I bet 90% of Indian politicians will find difficulty in feeding their families, if they choose any other profession. But by playing with the sentiments of citizens they win the election and earn millions/billions via corruption. They are the real tumors... They should be kept behind bars. And India needs military rule to get rid of fundamentalists from all religions and to create equal laws for all.
If anybody thinks, this is not the correct time to criticize the politicians, then I beg to differ. In fact this is the time they should be held accountable and jailed under the charge of so many deaths.
7. This is nothing camparing to what's happening in Palestine and kachmir. So don't talk too much.
You are a major freak. There is no such place as palestine. Those living in Gaza are Egyptian and those living in the West Bank are Jordanian. Kashmir belongs to India. May all the terrorists die in pieces!
It's NOT Islam that is f***ed up, it's the LUNATICS who kill in its name--they are not Muslims, they're nuts. Just like the Christian fundamentalists in the US who are not real Christians, either. April
Yes April, I can see how you arrived at that comparison, what with all the Lutheran Militia kidnappings and murders in the Midwest USA. Absolutely appalling.
I would like Ark to meet Al'Hazrad Malek Al'Nar and then have some fun with each other. You both have so much in common ....
Those animals. Those barbarous, disgusting murderers of innocents. It almost makes me wish there was a hell where they would burn.
Wake up America.. stop feeding Pakistan & making the enemy stronger. We did it with the Taliban, look where that got us. Stop aiding Pakistan & expose it for the failed terror sponsoring state that it is. Let's help our democratic friends get rid of this menace, once & for all. We're already on the western border there.. now we can have India on the East.. let's end this with getting Bin Laden, all his coherts & everyone of these masterminds planning the next one. God Bless America, god bless the victims, their families & our friends in India.
When Messiah Obama is going to attack Pakistan ? I can't wait but tell you what just take my word - IT IS COMING.
Very nice pics but so sad
Re: Those who say Islam has nothing to do with it blablabla.
For once, stand up and say I am a fellow Muslim and CONDEMN these atrocities and I demand that these medieval bigots who committed these crimes will get jailed or hung.
I know it is hard for you to say it like this, but I AM SURE, many Westerners would start looking different at Muslims individually when hearing/seeing such a strong response. However, this never happens.
Ali Akram "are u sure Qu'ran says to kill those 'non-believers'? read the scripture first, then read the islamic history, by then you will regret what you've said here."
What do Sura's 2 through 9 with all the sub verses say to do to Jews, and unbelievers? And, don't try to equate it with the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. Islamic holy books (Qu'ran and Hadith) are to be followed entirely by devout practicing Muslims, whereas the Old Testament of the Bible are seen as spiritual guides only, not enforced as law. As someone said earlier, Islam is the only faith that has verses that tell followers (current practitioners) how to treat the unbeliever. Taqquiya doesn't work when the truth is known.
@Jhon or Some Coward in Disguise of Jhon
I hope you will come up with any evidences in blaming a country which itself is highest target of terrorists. And all of this is happening because its again fighting west’s proxy war. In 80s Pakistan fought US’s proxy war against USSR and saved the west from its biggest fear of socialism. Now it’s again fighting and loosing thousands of its civilians/troops fighting the so called War on Terror. This is how you treat your allies/friends. I think you are completely ignorant of history, because all these current Jihadists have been trained by US army in 80s. Why would u still wonder Pakistan is the problem and not the US foreign policies. Just leave Pakistan alone, because you are worse than enemies, in disguise of a friend. As they say, who needs a foe when you have friends like America?
it is sickenning .. this seems to be a horrifying nightmare from which one may never wake up ....we should salute the comandos ...who are still fighting relentlessly .....also providing a constant reassurance to the viewers who can still go to bed safe under their presence ,,,,cos we definitely cannot rely on our govt. for any kind of support cos all they have done here is to find out avenues to bag in votes...might as well let the military rule than this old bastards ......a simultaneous display of determination by the comandos and a selfish vote bagging strategy by the govt.
To all those who blame Islam for this......I,as a Hindu, and as an Indian, would like to tell you, I cannot bring myself to hate a muslim just because he prays to some other God. Hate is not something taught to me by my family, and as the youth of India would tell you, we do not care for religion. You can take all your religion bull shit out of India. To hell with Hinduism and Islam, if it means we can live at peace. After all, if religion is useless as it is now, since neither Jesus or Allah or Krishna is doing anything to save people, what is the point of having a religion in the first place? We don't want your religion or politics.......just give us peace and let us live our life.
I dont understand why is everyone blaming pakistan for all this stuff? Islam never promotes such kind of acts. First we are humans and after that we have other nationalities. This is totally against humanity but plz dont blame pakistan for this unless you people have some solid proof.
thanks.
the Rabbi and his wife from the Chabad house were peaceful people who died 'kidush hashem' there were many brave people who died trying to save peoples lives such as some of the employees of the Taj. These people also died "kidush hashem" the jewish religion would consider all these people to be hero's. violent terrorists are never hero's in my religion.
may G-D bless all who put themseleves in danger to save innocent people
G-D bless the Indian army.
looking at theses pictures all i can say is i'm shocked.... i don't get one thing.. why and how would a human want to kill another human by the name of their religion??? and your religion doesn't teach you to take lives????
Please Mr. Obama, can't you intercede and purge all of these bad things from this world NOW like you promised? YOU are the savior of our world not Mohammed or Jesus.
From where came the forced Partition of the subcontinent?
How was Pakistan formed, from what, with what, and why?
How was East Pakistan/Bangladesh formed, from what, with what, and why?
Those scars are not that old. Unfinished, hurried business left over from the last World Wars, which explains much of the instability from the Med Eastward. A War weary West just wanted to get on with this party called 'modernity', and left alot of hurried, unfinished business. The issue of 'modernity' was never fully resolved. Throw into this mix the West's very own radicalism and self conflict over this issue of modernity, and what singluar direction 'it' should take -- as if the freedom eating enemy of all of us was not that very premise, that such directions were singular.
The Pakistans were formed, I think, at least in part, as a past futile attempt to separate this sensless tribal/religion based hatred. But after all these years, it remains.
Hindu/Indians have largely embraced modernity without unduly giving up their religious and cultural heritage, while Muslim/Pakis are much more torn on that issue, divided, (literally, and even seceding from themselves, when East Pakistan became Bangladesh in 1971)and at its most radical fringes, we have this confluence of radical 'Jihad' and restoration of the Dark Ages Glory That Once Was ... and old scores, Kashmir being an excuse to endlessly carry out same. Add to that, while moderates in Pakistan are conflicted allies in the conflict against fringe radical extremism, India is a modern strategic trading partner with the West, and that may be playing into this fringe madness. We all ache for these people, but we all need to modern up already.
thank you USA
you started all this crazyness
I think it is naive to think whole Islam is behind this. I am non-muslim person and I visit UAE (middle east) quite often since my parents work there. UAE is place where lot of Indians and Pakistanis resides. I know of people who are local Arabs and Pakistani 's who are god fearing people and very nice and respectful. Infact last time when Kargill happened we were at a dinner with our friends who were Pakistanis - who had tears in his eyes and closed the TV covering the war saying that the Politics creates this evil and the result is innocent deaths and sufferings of army men and civilians leading to hatred. Point being - we go to all the religious places - church, temples and mosque to learn about good stuff and gifts of god and get the positive energy. It's upto individual to interpret religion.
who IS this Alok son of bitch you Damn bluddy stupid without any informattion you have blammed on pakistan last time in train blast it was your f*cking army officer and it was bluddy raa involved in that .you bludyy chap dont even dare to blame pakistan .As a pakistani we condem this act.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
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When do the media stop the name games and call a terrorist a terrorist and not this lame militants. This entire event was about killing innocent civilians and causing widespread terror.
I am deeply sad. I just have one question in my mind..
Why world's 99.99% terrorist are Muslims or Islam followers?... and why every terrorist activities are linked to Pakistan?...
May God bless those innocent souls!.. May world leader praise Indian and Courageous Indians for that remarkable fight against Terrorists!
Mike:
Islam is a religion without a Golden Rule... Muslims will scream if a fingernail is taken from a Muslim but cheer if the infidels are killed... In truth, it is a death cult of the Bedouin Arabs, nothing more...
Hmmm. 40 militant idiots who in a hurry for their 72 virgins.
All Muslims hold that Islam is a culture, a religion and a political system. The politics of islam divide the world into muslims and the "other" who they call kafir, and westerners translate as infidel.
There is no unitary Golden Rule in Islam (treat all others as you would have them treat you). They have one set of rules for the treatment of believers and another set for the treatment of the kafir who by sacred decree can be robbed, raped and killed. These dualistic beliefs are set out in the Koran, the hadith of Bukhari and Muslim and the Sira by Ibn Ishaq. Read them and weep.
The attacks in Mombai are jihad against the Jewish and polytheist kafirs.
moderate muslims need to stop "condemning" these attacks and start doing something about the cancer in their own house.
Thank you for that I will forward the link to every one I know.
thank you USA
you started all this crazyness jm
Jm, this started on, I believe, Oct. 3, 1985 when Leon Klinghoffer, an American Jew was shot in his wheelchair aboard the Italian cruiseliner, Achille Loro, in front of his wife and was then thrown overboard. It sounds a bit like recent events in Mumbai. The USA can't be blamed for everything. It only makes it easier to not think of the real causes and the strong actions that will be required to stop attacks of this nature.
hey robin, where do u get ur quotes from? i bet you anything ur a fox news fanatic/cnn/ all the fake sh*t you see in the media. how about u check some bbc europe, al-jazeera english, or better yet, reuters? islam does NOT teach us such things, trust me, i lived in saudi arabia for 10 years of my life and there was no such thing as "force." these people are nut-jobs. u wanna point fingers and call "terrorist"? how about the MILLIONS of crimes that happens in our country (USA) on a day to day basis, columbine shootings, virginia tech? everything else? no, they arent terrorists, theyre just convicted felons right? or how about that guy who killed his wife and children cuz he lost all his money, that dude in california, no no, not a terrorist at all. all these guys are christian, yet do u see US saying that they're "radical christian terrorists." no we dont, and f*ck those guys in inda, they are total whackjobs
This is what religion has brought mankind...
It's a plain lie to equal Christians or for that matter any other religion to the horror that Islam is, was, and always will be.. short of cannibals feasting on body parts Islam is the worlds leading death cult. I don't agree that they should all be killed like the rabid dogs they are.. but they shouldn't be allowed to raise children.. speak in public.. or travel in groups of more then 3. They should be registered.. at the local police station.. and their neighbors warned to the danger of them in the neighborhood. That is only the start of protecting the worlds people from Islam.. then we have to go after the roach colony countries where they rule.
its so easy to pick up a gun and kill easy targets or to blow some one up
but these people who do this are just murderers.
they prove nothing and never will .
its far braver to stand up and be counted with speach.
Terrorism has no religion or morality or even rationality. The terrorists are 20-25 yr old boys. They probably dont even know what they are fighting for and that this doesnt achieve anything except further insult their "religion". It is a sad and pitiable situation that such youth are SO motivated and trained for something with no rationality. The real solution must be to imprison the fanatic religious (which ever it might be) leaders who misguide people. That is the only way one can tackle terrorism at grass roots level.
Also, you can see the audacity and fearlessness of these guys . I wish they are caught alive and tortured and made a public example. If they can send us a video of daniel pearl , we can return the favor. It seems barbaric but clearly being civilized DOESNT work . They can not enter our home and hold us hostage and NOT face the consequences. This might be the only case where human rights shouldnt afforded. They too must feel the helplessness and fear which ordinary citizens feel on a daily basis.
@63. aLI Akram
> Islam DOESN'T force anyone to convert islam, its upto their own freewill.
Oh really ??? go and fu**ing read some history of India right from when the Mughals appeared in ancient India and you will learn how that g*ddamn conversion works in Islam ...
Islam preaches hatred of Infidels. Radical Islam has destroyed the Bamiyan Buddha, it killed women who wants to work or go to school. It has driven away 3,50,000 kashmiri pundits out of Kashmir. It has eradicated 35 % of Hindus living in Bangladesh. It is threatening over 2.5 million Hindu minorities in Malaysia. Quran is the most misinterpreted religious text in the world today.
People are blaming Pakistan because all the religious hatred in brewed in its Madrassas and the Pakistan government has failed to moderate this religious hatred. What has pakistan done to destroy the infrastructure in POK where all the Jihadis are trained ?. What has Pakistan done to destroy Taleban in Afganisthan and in North West frontier ?.
I went thru most of the comments and they broadly fall into 2-3 categories. There is the "Can't we all just get along". Then there is the "all muslims are terrorists" and also the occassional "you can't blame the whole community" for the crimes of a few. There was also a little back and forth on the lines of "But you started it", what about kashmir and Palestine".
I could'nt help but feel that we are missing the point completely. If you look for historical justifications to slaughter people, no doubt you will find plenty.
Violence begets violence, at the same time, terrorists cannot be stopped by candlelit wigils. Mumbao was attacked. The cities police force proved inadequte to meet the challenge. At the end of the day its that simple. In this world everyone has to be aware that terrorism is a threat that can't be wished away. We cannot hope to cater our behavior to cater to the tastes of these terroists, we can t conduct foriegn policy in fear of them. So what option do we have but to prepare for a long hard battle, where lives will be lost mistakes will be made. But that cannot keep us ffrom ourt chosen course..
@119 whackjob OB
Dont you fu**king understand the difference between a terrorist and a criminal? its time you take a vacation man......
pakistan islamabad sareena hotel under attck
india mumbai taj hotel under attack
both countrues are suffering really sad
Asama, I'm not sure what tragedy you are talking about but if it happened then people here would view it as just that, a tragedy.
Now if your mentioning what we are seeing here as some kind of warped retribution against people who had nothing to do with what you mentioned then I hope you die....horribly and get you 72 male virgins.
Honestly, moderates Muslims= Extremist Zealots that simply need a cartoon or the sight of a womans bare ankle to flip their switches, we need to focus more on them.
This isn't about God or religion, this is about hate. Hatred is a cancer that is blind, selfish, and stupid. These murderers will have to answer for what they have done.
I am an Indian and Hindu also... but do not blame to any muslims... It is true that most of terrorist are muslims but all muslims are not terrorist... they are not Hindus or Muslims.. they are just terrorist... They say they are helping Indians Muslims or they are fighting for them... If really they are.. so why they take training from Pakistan... why they take help from Al-Quida... or such group... !! So they are just terrorist only terrorist......!!
Jai Hind..!!
Religion has not brought this to mankind..... the evil that is in man is the problem here.
OB, where do you get that the Columbine killers, the Virginia Tech shooter, or that guy in California, were Christians? Did they self-identify as such? I don't think so. "Christian" isn't the default religion of people who aren't something else, even in America.
I'm not going to blame Islam for this attack, but if people self-identify as Muslims and say that their religion prompts them to do what they do, then who am I to argue with them? Look up the definition of "mujahideen" and tell me that these people aren't claiming Islam as their motivation.
you are falled victims to yours country PR
The world would be truly at peace WITHOUT religion.
I'm from Indian security forces - As an young indian youth i hated Muslims cause thats what my typical indian society and surroundings made the view out of terrorism in India, but now as a responsible indian i do think we need to get out of the habit of blaming it on a religon rather than the mislead freaks who actually do it.
As far as our friends from Pakistan are concerned - We both started in 1947 together infact you were a day ahead of us, look at the avenues after 60 years, we both have reached. You are very much responsible for this mess called terrorism, and you are breeding it in the name of a religion. You are doing it coz of your frustartion churning out of the competition with India. But you forgot that you are defaming a religion and billion of people who have the same religion but the conscience as you.
Its not hidden that these breeds have always been born & brought up in Pakistan, and the terror you face is from your internal people - coz thats the only way they know how to deal with conflict.
I can still have a heart to say - "My Pakistani friends", so my fellow indians, let me know if there is a person at your side who has the guts.
avtualy they r not understanding the power of Indians who r more than 1 billion.but they should not forget that this is a country of gandhi but this is also a land of bhagat sing and chandra shekha aajad.
so if we will react thn u will not even get place in ur home (means the countries from where they r operating) and who is saying this that there is opression on kashmiriie for their knowledge i wana tell him tht be 2 days from these attcaks thr was elections in kashmir and the public of kashmir had given thier poll without any fear and this time polling ratio in kashmir was much enough than the other states of india. and they r happy in democracy .go n see situation in pakistan
Ah, brilliant photos. Comprehensive.
I am an Indian and Hindu also... but do not blame to any muslims... It is true that most of terrorist are muslims but all muslims are not terrorist... they are not Hindus or Muslims.. they are just terrorist... They say they are helping Indians Muslims or they are fighting for them... If really they are.. so why they take training from Pakistan... why they take help from Al-Quida... or such group... !! So they are just terrorist only terrorist......!!
Jai Hind..!!
>>Islam preaches hatred of Infidels. Radical Islam has destroyed the Bamiyan Buddha, it killed women who wants to work or go to school
radicall pendoss war-ravaged Yugoslavia and think that they fought for justice
Nobody can wish the death of a human being, even if this human being is a terrorist. I've read so many time "we should kill them", and so on. It's really shocking. People who think those kind of stuff are truely dangerous.
Who are you to take such a decision ? A god ? Killing a person makes a murderer of you. Period.
Otherwise, that would be adopting the terrorists logic.
You can not explain these actions. These people are mad, the only thing that motivates them is hatred. They have their very own interpretation of islam that they use as a pretext to justify their action.
So please, stop saying that Islam = terrorism. That's just nonsense.
Hey OB.. when will you learn not to wear your friggin ignorance on your sleeve for the world to see. You're a fool. THESE ARE RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.
As for living in Saudi Arabia for ten yrs. either you're a liar about living there or you're a radical yourself. Saudi Arabia teaches the most virulent violent form of Islam...the kind practiced by Bin Laden. Crimes happen everyday in the US. This event in Mumbai was not a criminal event it was a TERRORIST event. JUST LIKE 9/11. It appears that they were financed and trained by Al Q. in Pakistan. They are likely members of LET a well known TERRORIST organization. Every intel org. knows this is a terrorist act. Only terrorists are deny it. Well not all of them!
Something must be clarified here. Pakistan obviously isnt officially attacking Mumbai or India . It is clear there is more than one tier of governing in Pakistan . The government isnt in control of the ISI or the terrorist. It isnt endorsing or supporting terrorism but the problem they arent doing anything to stop it either. Terrorists are trained in Pakistan and come to India and pakistan isnt doing anything to prevent this. Thats what Indian anger stems from. Pakistan must do more to erradicate terrorists who are a menace to pakistan too. Thats what PM manmohan singh is saying too. Thats why war on pakistan isnt a solution to anything , infact it will play into the terrorist plans of keeping us divided. Killing more innocent lives isnt going to make terrorism go away. Pakistan government must do more to keep terrorist camps in control as must India have better intelligence.
Blaming Islam is our first reaction but we must remember the fanatic religious leaders must be imprisoned. they are breeding terrorists. They have twisted religion so much that it is no longer recognizable. One can interpret a verse in a religious scripture just as easily to spread peace or justify killing someone depending on the persons intention.
@ 139 - shruti sharma
stop posting the same again n again
you are fake, not hindu or Indian.
have seen you on rediff forums before, its clear where your priorities lie. pls dont come into forums with an agenda to push. not at this time pls.
no comment.
Once again more fun and games from "The Religion Of Peace"
Can we not fight over religion and just realize that people are dying and we need to help those that are grieving and who survived? People have died because of an extreme ideal and we need to come together not be torn apart because of it.
All those who blame Pakistan for not having done anything make me very angry and very upset. Pakistanis - whether they are civilians or the militia - has paid the highest cost of this menace, which has been created by power-hungry America whose citizens are the ones that act the most concerned. If they are so against "America funding Pakistan funding terrorists" they could have stopped paying taxes. But no. They didn't because hey, if I don't pay the tax, I may not be able to take the vacation I plan to once I retire and am living on my unemployment benefit.
I feel the pain of Mumbaikers and the rest of the Indians, but Pakistan hasn't sacrificed any less. The Pakistani people have not gone through any less pain than them. And continue to. Anticipate to. In this year, Pakistan has faced WAY MORE than India or any other country has. Give credit where it's due...those in Pakistan are not partying. They are as much citizens of the world as anybody, there lives are no less precious.
I used to feel that the average American is just naive, but now I think that they are both naive and selfish. I just hope that Indians wake up and realize that this is yet another trick. I hope those who read this comment ponder over this: India is fast growing into one of the strongest economies in the world, and there was a time when Pakistan was up there too (but America definitely took care of that and now the Pakistani economy is back in the shreds). Anything that is a threat to American domination i.e. America's superpower status, needs to be wiped out, and this is what they're trying to do to you India. PLEASE concentrate!! Don't fall prey to this rhetoric that Pakistan is behind all this blah blah. What will happen if you do? Pakistan and India would again be at loggerheads, India's attention would be diverted from the brilliant trend of economic growth it has been achieving, and there goes America's objective. America is a country that can do anything, ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING, to keep it's power. India and China are considered second-generation superpowers, something America would definitely not want.
Come on Indian people, wake up to the truth. I know you're in pain, but it is times like these which require the most use of the mind. We all should wake up.
We must all condemn the acts of these terrorist now matter what religion we observe.
Murder is wrong -
No matter
Who commits
No matter
the reason.
It is wrong.....
Amazing photos!! pictures 34 and 35 are such a contrast of emotions....This is a real tragedy.... never forget - 26/11
Religion in the likes of Islam, Christianity and Judaism only want one thing: Keep people madly dumb and throw us all back to the middle-ages. Christianity received its share of enlightenment and Judaism is also fairly moderate, except a small amount of ultra-Orthodox Jews.
But a religion with over 1 billion followers like Islam dictates to its believers that Islam is the alpha and the omega, the absolute and thou shall not question anything written in the Quran or Suras. Ultimately establishing the Ummah - a World of devout Muslims and Muslims only or under the condition of being subjugated and classified as dhimmis (second class citizens) non-believers could exist. These notions make Islam very very dangerous, as there is no enlightenment happening in this religion and the Arabs show their true intensions: Imperialism and Colonialism through chaos and disorder and a sick religion to keep the masses oppressed.
Religion doeReligion does not teach violence and killing of the innocent, both maybe misguided in their action, such the Lesser Evil are that of those who have been killed. God has never advocated Man should raise Arms against the weak and Defenseless, it is Evil in Any Form and Guise that which must be Oppressed, via the Prescribed Manners, Problem is that the current Justness and the Laws have been gentle tweaked to slant and Favor of those who hold the Power, and their Entourage of Cronies in the name of Manipulative Meritocracy. Something is very wrong in this system where the Teachings of God has been mis-treated, manipulated and regulated by the so called Leaders all over the World, who most of the time are only Self Righteous and not Righteous, who have no Principles or the Right Order. Pray to God to Guide us into a better World tomorrow, One which Full of Peace, Love, and True Righteousness, Even if God were to be born as a Human , he would have been Nurtured in the wrong manner and Belief, as this is a lost Society, mislead and manipulated by the Self Grandiose and equally Lost Leaders. All is not Lost. The Right Leader will rise in times Dire Straits, God sent Leader who know the right way. Globalization brings Mankind together, so shall the New World and the True Leaders.
" We are the Sum Total of Our Conditioned Minds"
Nothing More Nothing Less. Meanwhile Dharma and Karma Plays on! Cessation comes only with realization of Self. non can Teach or be Taught, But the SELF.
@ #80 Jack.. Please show us these 'thousands' of photos of Christians, Jews and Hindus committing similar terrorist acts. You then go on to refer to the Iraq war , where we are the good guys, trying to prevent these terrorist bastards from committing mayhem like this on the civilian population. You should recognize this. In wars people die! That is a fact. Or maybe we should surrender and hope for the best. We can not longer pet rabid dogs. I urge the powers that be in India, the US, EU, Russia and China to coordinate an all out attack on the terrorist training camps located in the lawless areas of Pakistan & Afghanistan, and take them out one by one. Blockade the Somali coast as well.
a muslim is the one who submits(obeys) to GOD and pay obedience to the Prophet....
it is clearly mentioned in the quran by God, that if a man kills an innocent it is like he kills the whole humanity and if he saves one it is like he saves all....
further, prophet has mentioned that a muslim can never steal, never fornicate, never do any heinous act being a muslim....
so it is apparent and clear that whoever does these acts are terrorists and not muslims.... because a muslim cannot be a terrorist and a terrorist cannot be a muslim.... there can't be a co-existence of the two... either he is a muslim or he is a terrorist..
i deeply condole for the victims, and keep my voice, literature and anger against these malicious terrorists (who for their sake misuse the religion's name)...
i'm a muslim who had subverged my obediecne to GOD and His prophet, prays 5times a day, fasts one month an year, pays the annual charity, and had done the pilgrimage......
i never (like any other muslims) do support any act of terrorism from any kind of people.....
terrorists has no religion... they are terrorists... nothing more nothing less
I just need to ask one thing regarding Koran that what is the exact verse mentioned in the holy book regarding the treatment of non-believers.......since..I guess most of us (non-islamic people) know only a part of it, that too.....through internet and blogs only....I hope..... if any true practictioner of Islam knows and mention it here.......on this blog.......
Is there any place or organization through which one might send money or care packages to those affected by these heinous attacks? If I don't do something positive to help soon, this sense of helplessness and second-hand grief will poison me. I refuse to let the terrorists have the final say.
My heart goes out to everyone involved in this terrible incident, peace be with you and love from all over the world.
Welcome to the modern world Obama. Can we all have a chorus of Kum-bay-ahhh? hy can't we all just live together?
I think we have to start being kinder to Pakistan. We have no business being the world's policeman. America - come home. We are not wanted overseas.
My grandpa was born in Peshawar in the late 1890s. He was a staunch Muslim and also a fighter according to family lore. Thats all Islam produces- Muslims and fighters. That is why I am an atheist now. If you ask me....it is Islam. Islam has the potential to turn a perfectly normal person into a beast. It has that potential.
Rehem
Declare PAKISTAN a rogue state.
cute dog!
it's important to make the distinction between islam, which is a largely non-violent religion, and the fascists that have warped its message into condoning this sort of behavior. it's disgusting that some would find these people's actions acceptable in any context, but it certainly is not without precedent across world history. we're all to blame when we as a society view violence as a justifiable form of conflict resolution.
Quran is subjective,it was written in a Era and Venue not of similarity to the present existence of God fearing People of different Denominations. Mostly I believe that it must have been altered by some Fanatical Minds to suit their Self Righteous and Selfish purposes. Such,this must be set right by the Refined and Enlighten in this Religion or more Havoc will Prevail Humanity. Conceiving that "We are The sum total of Our Conditioned Minds" dire adjustment must be made be these Highly regarded Religious Leaders and Guides, who hold the Lamp of Righteousness. Otherwise the Fight between Evil and Good will see Good Losing its Grounds and Evil will REIGN.
@ Tom Bolair # 158.
"We have no business being the world's policeman. America - come home. We are not wanted overseas."
Thank you.
Why the comments about Obama? In your minds, to you really think that anybody who voted for Obama expects him to personally solve such problems? Are people making these sarcastic comments like #95 and #105 and especially #158 really so completely ignorant and cynical?
Nevermind, after electing Bush not once but twice, I know the answer is yes. But rest assured, whatever "promises" you are imagining, they exist only in your own warped, damaged little minds.
My condolences and prayers to the people suffered and suffering in Mumbai.
I really hope my comments will be published. We all know Muslims can not live with any other religion or people from other beliefs its a proven fact over and over again. We have been tolerating them since 1947 its time now to get them out from india completely. I think its time to teach a serious lesson to pakistan and all the fundamentalists. We seriously need to get rid of crooked politicians and get the youth power in who has more power and quick to decide. India is the only country right who does not have stong law against these terrorists.
This is the true face of Islam, the Religion of Peace.
The world will not know peace and safety until this vile political doctrine masquerading as a religion in utterly destroyed.
All the Taqiya from the Muslims here can not dispute what we see with our own eyes, not only here in India, but everywhere in the world with a sizable Muslim population suffers from terrorism, violence, and ignorance. Those with Muslim majorities also suffer from oppression, poverty and more ignorance.
Wow! Some of you have an interesting concept of America and her people. Well guess what one thing is true, we here do not give a hoot what you think over there. I personally have no recollection of any of you big mouth countries coming to our aid in times of disaster, but oh those taxes you speak of goes to your sorry a--es when something happens and you're happy to receive it.
As for me I have always said religion is the misery of society. God is God and religion is oppressive with only lip service to God.If there is a heaven, may those innocent souls swiftly find thier way. If there is a hell, may that scum fall hard
like a rock.
Thank you for not omitting that these terrorist are radical Islamists. Too often because of political correctness the religious background of these individuals is left out of the description.
hey, islamic apologists, you can try to hoodwink people with your straw man arguments but there is a glaring truth that cannot be ignored. By FAR the vast majority of terrorists acts are committed by jihadist's. When christians,or buddhists start blowing up things in the name of their religion then I'll believe your tripe. Oh and just because there where crusades centuries ago does not excuse current behavior! BTW the crusades where started to repel the spead of islamic empire and here we go again, history repeating itself.
As for the US starting all of this.....does anyone remember the Barbary Pirates? Google it and think again! The US came into existence long after the mentality of these terrorists was thoroughly established in the world. Thomas Jefferson wrote at length about his concerns with Islamists.
It's easy to pick one country or one people and point the finger of blame at it. But it's not Pakistan, and it's not the Muslims. This is not about Islam. This is about fanaticism. These people who are killing my people and burning my home are not Muslims. They are fanatics. Robots programmed by a remote zealot somewhere to do the work of the devil in the name of God. The irony is heartbreaking.
I refuse to believe that in the cities of Pakistan, people are watching the carnage in Bombay and celebrating. It may be true of some but it can not be true of all.
Sadly I'm equally sure there are a few who were born Indian, who do believe what is happening is righteous and good.
STOP GIVING AID TO PAKISTAN that inturn is what goes to ISI and that goes to aid alqueda, LET, gangsters, taliban and they kill people of all colors if they are not muslims.
few things to point.
Is islam to be blamed? ....No
Are most terrorist doing it in name of Islam ? Yes.
Are terrorist linked to Pakistan? Yes
Is Pakistan(i mean govt) involved in it? No
The point here is responsibility. If you have so many people breeding in one country or have affiliations to Pakistan in some way. The government should bear the responsibility to fix it. Instead of ignoring the situation and it is time to understand the real cause behind it. Even it is not state sponsored terrorist group. There should some responsibility for country for its citizens.
I do agree on premature blame which is going on. But you have to realize, if a citizen of particular country attack the country should own up some reposibility and understand the hatred in the air.
I know U.S foreign policies for that matter even western policies havent helped Pakistan. In fact they have dug a deeper hole. Politicans in Pakistan need to take a good stance in what they believe and what they stand for. (1. Fix your problem before helping other countries) I am sure India may not go into a war with Pakistan unless it finds credible source that ISI was invovled and even then will go using allies. The problem is for Pakistan is not India. The problem is Pakistan is mentioned everytime Afghanistan has been mentioned and Afghanistan has been in war for some decades now. If it is sign of anything serious. It is time for people of Pakistan to step up and demand the democracy that needs to thrive.
I am so tired of all the EXCUSES for Islam. The sound of denouncements from the Muslim world is DEAFENING.
It is Islam, over and over again, that leaves dead bodies in the streets.
What is always predictable after such an attack are the vaguely worded fake words of sympathy from the Muslim countries & organizations about "Muslims don't kill innocents", with the dog-whistle and sly message that if you are innocent in their definition, you will not be killed.
We are told that the terrorists arrived by rubber boat and yet there is the pic of a blown up auto. There is too much damage to that auto to have been done by grenades. Also how in the world did the director of the ant-terrorist unit get killed? Did he go to meet with the terrorists or what? India is always preaching peace to everyone maybe you should try strength for a change.
For all the Islamic apologists. Here is a simple observation. If Islam did not exist, this attack would not have happened, neither would terrorists attacks all over the world happen. So tell me Islam is NOT the problem, but if Islam went away, all of these problems would end. Christianity had its reformation. Islam needs to have one, or become the most hated group on earth, and at some point even the corrupt Western World will fight back.
Israel and USA started all this madness
this is top political game by BJP, RSS, Bajrangdal, VHP & other fanatic HINDU groups to deviate the hidden fact by SADVI in MALEGOAN & other Blast in India. this present attack is like a contract given to the "Int. Terrorist group" & the subcontractor are these small groups to attacked our mumbai. the main terrorist group is the BJP along with are many top brand political names. and more than 75 % files are opened by MR.KARKARE (ATS chief "may god rest his solve in peace") & his group members. just think within short period all the best ATS officers are killed. just think a small terrorist group will never have best plan with best ammunition to attack mumbai. unneccessary names of some terror groups and stupid Pakistan is taken. Pakistan is itself not in position to save his ASS from home civil riots. Sir INDIANS and Media are quite educated to think about the deviation politican turn by this attack. BJP anyhow never wants Peace in India. if thruthfully officer like Karkare comes in front more new terror files of BJP will be opened. BUT ITS WRITTEN IN HOLY BOOKS OF EVERY RELIGION, SATAN HAS CHALLENGED TO GOD THAT HE WILL LOOK INTO HOW GOD IS IN PEACE. Dear religion brothers of united india, today satan is BJP and god is our motherland. Please face the fact and rise with humanity.
ok mainly everyone is pi**ed of at muslims rite now which is prettty obvious why,
but seriously have u ever heard of a muslim being allowed to consume alcohol , and especially these guys in expectance of their 72 virgins would commit such a sin of consuming alcohol ,
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/2008112820081128033617324f1c3f60f/The-terrorists-planned-to-make-Nariman-Bhavan-their-hideout
and @ infidel bob (98) just try looking up the parts u mentioned i.e. surah 2 to surah 9 thats a lot of aayaths (lines) in there, id say around 300 pages, where it describes heaven, hell etc. etc. and theres no part on killing somebody bcos they dont follow ur religion, infact it mentions about freedom to choose ur religion as long as u r willing to face the consequence in ur afterlife (i.e. heaven or hell)
y dont u just try to read the part u have quoted rather copy paste someone elses lines dont make conceptions based on conceptions
dead turkey --please elaborate
Feels like 9/11 all over again...
but we must not fear terrorists because that is exactly what they want
Those who complain against America should remember one thing. Radical Islam started way back in 9th century AD when America was inhabitated by Native Indians. This menance continued during the Mughal empire in India under which Hindus have suffered humiliation of their religion and systematic destruction of their places of worship. This hatred reached its peak during India Pakistan Partition in which over 1.5 million people are killed.
The hatred preached by Radical Islam must end otherwise it will have to face the reality of extinction from the face of earth soon.
What's scarier to me is that in the name of making the world safe, we will all lose the supposed freedoms many before us fought and died for. India also has nukes, so who knows what their response might be when they find out who was behind this? The bottom line is that anything can happen anywhere. Security is and always has been an illusion.
The problem is not with Islam, but with Islamism, which is political Islam. It is an increasing global problem, and by not naming it and facing it for what it is only allows it to grow. We must not hide behind political correctness and ignore the true source of the problem, which is a virulent ideology. Islam is not just a religion, but a political/social system as well, with Muslim majorities imposing sharia on entire countries. It is a new tyranny which is sweeping across the globe.
As for the US starting all of this.....does anyone remember the Barbary Pirates?
Michelle
Excellent point, Michelle. Prior to Thomas Jefferson, we had been paying tribute to the Barbary Pirates in exchange for not taking our sailors for ransom. They sometimes did it anyway. The NATO countries need to understand that if the middle east and other countries in the region fall, the front line moves to Europe. Some would say it already has. I predict the West will ultimately buy them off, just like the old days. With the possible exception of the USA, of course.
You know...I never really thought much of John Lennon's song *** IMAGINE ***.
But on days like this, I NOW THINK that it just might be the greatest song ever written!!!!!!
@57 Untrue. Tragically the Indian Army stormed the Golden Temple despite knowing it was a Sikh holy day and there would be thousands of innocent pilgrims and visitors. It became an indiscriminate massacre. There were several reports of barbaric acts by the army. The Guardian on 13/6/84 reported the following:
"A Sikh doctor drafted from the Government hospital to Jullunder to conduct post mortem examinations said that he had seen the bodies of two Sikhs who had been shot at point blank range, their hands tied behind their backs with their turbans. His colleagues had reported others, some of whom had been machine-gunned. This doctor headed a team that conducted 400 examinations. He said that most bodies were riddled with bullets and bore bomb wounds. He said, "It was a virtual massacre. A large number of women, children and pilgrims were gunned down."
The same doctor told journalists that bodies of victims were brought to the mortuary by police in municipal refuse lorries. (The Times of 13/6/84 and the Indian Express of 18/6/84) reported that of the 400 bodies, 100 were women and between 15-20 were children under five. One was a two-month-old baby.
Let's hope the communities stay united and that there are no anti-muslim riots as there were anti-sikh riots in 1984. Don't listen to the hate-mongers. Peace.
180. - obviously idiocy has no limits your comment is a perfect example of that
To Ali Akram who posted:
"are u sure Quran says to kill those 'non-believers'? " Ali Akram, Koran/Quran indeed teaches killing non-Muslims. Here is one verse for you which Islamic Terrorists quote over and over again: "...And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers." Quran 2:191
There are several such verses in Quran and the Hadith is even worse!
All that you people need to do is read your korans and the truth will come out. Christians and Jews are "people of the book" because they worship the same god as Mohammed. According to that book, Christians & Jews are, at best, 2nd class citizens (Surah IX verses 29-35). Just Google "jizya" or "dhimitude" and see what you get. The politheistic Hindus aren't afforded this courtesy, they're just slaughtered. If Islam is so tolerant, try taking a bible into Saudi Arabia or openly convert from Islam to another religion in an Islamic country without the threat of death. I like how if you question the koran you're automatically an "islamophobe". Yeah, lets namecall instead of debating the facts. If wanting to protect my family from savages who still live in the 7th Century makes me an islamophobe, then so be it!
John Quincy Adams on Islam:
"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, [.....] Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST.- TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.... Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant ... While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men."
(Capitals are in the original -- the boldfacing has been added for this blog post.)
The behavior of radical Islamist terrorists has nothing to do with Iraq or Israel. It's been going on since the seventh century.
http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1157/article_detail.asp
I can't believe these idiots are blaming this on the U.S and Israel. These are the only 2 countries who aggressively fight these barbarians.
Looks like they need the right to carry arms, that way, they're not sitting ducks waiting to be shot down my some worthless existence that should have been sucked out of his mothers infected womb !
Claire O'Connor, you are a moron.
A terrorist is a man with a bomb but no plane....
Good idea De Lucca, when all else fails let's just blame Bush.
Maybe Obama can chat and reason with the fellows that organized this whole thing.
These scum "terrorists" want to die for their cause. Lets continue to make that happen. Every last one of them.
When are the people with the power to do something, going to do it? When are they going to quit treating these terrorists like bad children who are misbehaving and start fighting fire with fire. When are the politicians we elected to protect us going to stop taking the seemingly moral high road. The only people that is benefiting is the terrorists. I would bet anything, no one in any country is willing to lose a loved one to a terrorist act so their country can take the moral high ground. People are always worried about these terrorists rights and not to treat them inhumanely. What about the victims rights?! What about the rest of us law abiding peoples rights. These people are waging war on our way of life. The only way to kill a monster is with a bigger one. These people can not be reasoned with or persuaded with bribes. They are like house pets that have gone ferral. The only way to deal with them is to put them down.
This is callled a civil war...
The basis does not relate to religion.
Some elements ( the perpatraitors ) take ''credit' for this mayhem.
And the media take it further and further....
Just another civil war, in disguise ( of religion )....
This was just another German right-wingers opinion.
One advice to all: Keep up the good work populating my television with real crap.
"180.Israel and USA started all this madness
Posted by Dead Turkey November 28, 08 07:00 PM"
The USA did not start anything. If it wasn't for the USA, the entire world would be communist or worse. Get over blaming America for the problems in the world. Without us, you would be a slave or dead. Maybe we should just pull back and let the world fall to Islam, Communism or whatever.
FTW!
A terrorist is a man with a bomb WHO DELIBERATELY TARGETS CIVILIANS AS THE MAIN TARGETS, whether he has a plane or not.
Hey Anonymous, I had been thinking the same thing. Maybe they used planes in the USA because a lot of people are packing. It might not have been so easy to pull this horror off on the streets without the wild, wild west breaking out.
A Quiz for you all
Which country is the hub of ALL terrorists of this world?
Imagine if that country vanishes in thin air, then more than half of world's terrorism will be gone. Aameen to that. Unfortunately, that terrorist country is India's neighbour.
I really wish people wouldn't blame a specific religion or country. Stop blaming the U.S.A, the middle east, and even the Muslims for these terrible acts. You talk as if the average American citizen is issuing orders and making pacts with the leaders of Pakistan. The way you ramble on about Muslims makes it seem like every single person who is a Muslim is picking up a shot gun and going around shooting innocent bystanders. Terrorism has been going on for hundreds of years, by people of all different ethnic groups, nationalities, and religions. And as long as some person somewhere in the world has their own agendas and their own way of doing something there will be terrorism. Because in the end all of this is some pathetic mob of people doing these horrific stunts in the hope of scaring the world. Blaming one place in particular doesn't solve anything, the only thing it manages to do is anger someone else somewhere else in the world. If you really are that childish to point fingers than maybe you should just point into a mirror. Your endless rambling isn't going to help the situation, it isn't going to help rid this planet of terrorism, and is sure as hell isn't helping the poor people of this world who lost their loved ones in this horrendouc act. I think some of you should think before you start typing.
All the religious fanatics are originating from Pakistan. Considering it is nuclear i fear it might get into the hands of terrorists. They will stop at nothing. Stop funding Pakistan for godsake.
It is clearly established 29 out of the 40 are from Pakistan 11 are from Bangladesh. They are all muslims. Islamic fundamentalism. What is their motives behind targeting jews, americans, british.
a muslim is the one who submits(obeys) to GOD and pay obedience to the Prophet....
it is clearly mentioned in the quran by God, that if a man kills an innocent it is like he kills the whole humanity and if he saves one it is like he saves all....
further, prophet has mentioned that a muslim can never steal, never fornicate, never do any heinous act being a muslim....
so it is apparent and clear that whoever does these acts are terrorists and not muslims.... because a muslim cannot be a terrorist and a terrorist cannot be a muslim.... there can't be a co-existence of the two... either he is a muslim or he is a terrorist..
i deeply condole for the victims, and keep my voice, literature and anger against these malicious terrorists (who for their sake misuse the religion's name)...
i'm a muslim who had subverged my obediecne to GOD and His prophet, prays 5times a day, fasts one month an year, pays the annual charity, and had done the pilgrimage......
i never (like any other muslims) do support any act of terrorism from any kind of people.....
terrorists has no religion... they are terrorists... nothing more nothing less
"thank you USA
you started all this crazyness"
Your ignorance is what helps keep this going.
This has been happening since well before the USA was even a country.
If you cannot see that these fools are using the USA (among others) as nothing more than excuses -- and YOU conveniently accept that, you are lost, my friend. Every terrorist has a convenient enemy... if the USA was the enemy, why were so many Indians killed? People like you lend credence to their excuses and allow these murderers to continue -- with their idiot excuses. One day, when you wake up, you will see that. Hopefully, it won't be too late for you and millions of others.
These are truly horrific crimes and as yet the motives and the perpetrators are not fully clear so lets not jump to hasty conclusions.
In response to the comments that Islam = Terrorism I would like to make a couple of points. There are plenty of non-muslim terrorists. I'm British and I was in my home town of Manchester when some distinctly non-muslim terrorists decided to bomb the main shopping centre in the city (IRA / Catholics). And the Troubles were not without Protestant atrocities either. Spain has recently suffered bomb attacks from non-Muslim separatist fighters (ETA ). The Tamil Tigers who have bombed and fought a bloody battle in Sri Lanka are predominantly Hindu as were the perpetrators of previous bomb attacks in India. Possibly the only world religion I have not heard implicated in any type of terrorist attack is Bhuddism....!
Last I checked the Gun Laws in India are VERY Strict......The common person isn't allowed to own a weapon for self defense.......If Law Abiding Indians were allowed their birthright of self-defense by carrying a weapon, this couldv'e been stopped early on.........no symapthy for the WEAK!!!!!!!.......
Blame it all on us, the foolish, ignorant, arrogant....ungrateful human kind. Human has always been weak, uncivilized, easily distorted....and above all GREED. Human activated the devil's work in the name of salvation and freedom long ago by hijacking religions of all kinds. So too the unseen level of high negative energy released on earth by human's emotions and their creations, left mother nature no choice but to punish everyone.
Want to have some insight into Islam, the Religion of Peace? Look at the top news stories from:
Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran
Syria
Somalia
Algeria
Russia
Pakistan
Philippines
China
Nigeria
There's plenty more. I think you're starting to get the picture. There is no moderate Islam. When is the last time you saw Muslims march for Peace? Women's rights? Nope! Slavery? OK by Islam! Killing anyone whose religion is different than Islam? That's OK too! Rape? OK if it's for Islam! Terrorism? Once again, OK if it's for Islam! Music - mostly illegal. Movies - mostly outlawed. Books - only allowed to read what the local Islamic theocracy says you can. Islamic terror was not started by the USA. It's been going on for decades. The USA is one of the few countries willing to stand up to the growing Islamic threat. You people who blame and hate the USA will be the first people screaming for them to come and help you when Islam takes over, locks down and starts killing your country.
Elijah,
I believe putting the terrorists down is exactly what they want. My guess is they don't want to be captured so I would rather not give them what they want. And if we forget about laws, rights etc. then the terrorist truly do win don't they? They want to destablize the democratic world. If we start circumventing and ignoring our own laws then when the same laws need to be applied to different situations they can be struck down based on precedents. The terrorists want us to execute them and strip them of their rights because this would be removing one of the bricks of democracy from the bottom. Once you start removing the foundation, the entire structure will fall. I vote to fight the terrorists with law and democracy. I don't want them to win!!
The religion of peace strikes again. I suppose there's going to be millions of Muslims demonstrating against this senseless violence. Just kidding. There are millions of 'moderate' Muslims celebrating instead. Pakistan , Iran Syria.. it doesn't matter . The only thing in common is Islam and its 1600 hundred years of death , fear and hate. May God have mercy on these poor victims souls.
Turkish couple let off by terrorists for being Muslims.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Mumbai/Turkish_couple_let_off_by_terrorists_for_being_Muslims/articleshow/3766609.cms
This is proof that attacks were directed towards non-muslims as directed by the Koran.
I am appalled by how many idiots are actually posting their sh*thead-opinions here... poor world, extremists are everywhere!
@ Ali 154
Operating word being INNOCENT. Read the Quran Ali... Kaffirs like us cannot be innocent because we made a choice of not believing in the Quran.
I do not hold present day muslims guilty of the immense damage done to peoples of erstwhile pagan states of Persia, Afghanistan, Greater India etc. by the marauding troops of desert dwelling islamic barbarians, who have usurped the immense scientific and cultural accomplishments of these great civilizations as their own.
The destructive raids of Bin qasim, Ghori, Ghaznavi (all glorious ghazis of Islam) etc plundered the wealth, land, and enslaved free peoples of India, Persia and Afghanistan (Kushan) to build the great cities of Islam. Every where these barbarians went they destroyed the elite educational institutions of such civil
izations, beheaded the intellectual leaders such as the monks in the world's first university in Nalanda. What we are seeing is just a continuation of those days. Some faced with such enormous oppression chose to join their oppressors and lead charmed lives, but for those who put up resistance, there was no mercy, they were put to the sword in Delhi, in Rajastan and many communities chose to fight to the last man and woman such as the Rajputs where women of fallen kingdoms chose to immolate themselves rather than face depradations as slaves to the raiders. Yet to many muslims these barbaric raiders were heroes of god and in Pakistan they still are. You may ask yourselves why did the muslims not convert everyone and the answer is that they tried but people of India did not want to convert to a religion more suitable for the deserts of Arabia and not the colorful gardens that was India.Much of what I say will cause cognitive dissonance to you, raised as you were a devout muslim, but the fact remains. There is almost no cultural or scientific knowledge that is the genius of Islam (not the number system: India, not the maritime compass: China, and many others, the entire arabic mathematics is lifted
from Indian sources). The genious of India is also your legacy and every attempt by muslims to insulate themselves from the larger public causes immense damage to the idea of India where a thousand religions, countless philosophies and immense wealth was generated and through civilizational faults and schisms in civil society lost to outsiders. You may not know but the Quran has always been an Arab political philosophy masked as a religion and it reflect in Arab attitudes to non-arab muslims, you will never be equals to those who speak in Arabic the language of god but here in India we will always love those who hold India and i
ts lands and denizens sacred as dearly as a mother loves her child. Unconditionally! but remember this pagan/kaffir India perhaps even the rest of the world
is slowly waking up from its slumber and rightly or wrongly it will demand a penance for all the past crimes the Ghazis of Islam have committed on its body.
It is upto you to recognize past excess and start the healing process. Jai Hind!
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Pakistan start counting your days.......u r finished....u r done...I am blamed for your doings.......ur support to inhuman practices........
this is a disgusting incident. I feel bad for foreigners who were singled out in this incident. much as USA claims they are the real victims of terror attacks - that claim is wrong - outside of iraq , India is the country most affected by terror. unless Pakistan is helped to overcome the terror groups in the country and led to have a stable democracy - loose elements in pakistan will continue to wreak havoc inside india, in pakistan and the rest of the world.
the world must recognize that the fountainhead of all terror, pakistan, must be tamed.
To all who are making ignorant remarks on Islam, I have one question. . .
What faith did Timothy McVaugh belong to? How about Ted Bundy?
Just because those terrorists claim to be Muslims it doesn't mean that Muslims are proud of this. For all you Islamaphobics, what makes you think we encourage this? Do you see any Muslims dancing on the streets and jumping for joy for this? Stop making the assumption that Muslims encourage or promote this in any way. Because we don't.
the terrorist is wearing a RED hindu band on his hand as seen on picture #5
all hindus I know of wear that band
he doesn't even look Muslim
Brilliant Photography...Nice comments...valid points and invaluable counter points.... and ABSOLUTELY NO ACTION...NO RESOLUTION
So wait till they strike again.. until they get to you and me...
I know Islam preaches that they should kill ones that do not believe in Islam (don't try to teach me that it does not ....) and then they become martyrs and go to heavan ....I wanna know what happens to the Muslims if they kill a fellow Muslim in their after life? we need to remind them in that case they go to HELL .....!!
If you kill even one innocent Muslim then you go to hell my fellow radical islamic terrorists ...always remember that.
The only way Muslim Terrorism will cease, is when good Muslims stand up and take back their religion from the extremists. No more picking and choosing what you agree or don't agree with the extremists views. Terrorists are terrorists. Stop rationalizing their acts. If the good Muslims don't eraticate this disease themselves, then stop complaining how the rest of the world will handle it.
With this recent event, not only Muslims must stand up but the Pakistani people must stand up to these individuals and organizations that hide amongst them. Stop using cultural and 1000 year old greviences as an excuse to target tourists. If the infidels are so evil why do the terrorists use the infidels cell phones, bombs, Ak-47's, internet, TV, cars, airplanes, clothes, laptops, radios, etc ...?
Do you want to see the real motive & rewards for the terrorist??? see " Paradise rewards for Jihadis" in google,wikipedia,or Yahoo-- Unless their radical leaders & priests sincerely denounce & deny this motive this will continue--- -- what a peaceful & tolerant religion ???
Those are some really high quality pictures, and I must say great job on the camera work by whomever took these.
@207
I totally agree with it.
Those who trained and financially supported this carnage must be found and punished. I don't care who or where they are.
Secondly, Muslims must denounce this carnage. Any Muslim who who openly rejoices over this carnage must be condemned by decent Muslims. Those who do not condemn the carnage are complicit in it, just as the "good Germans" who followed Hitler's orders.
Third, private ownership and the right to carry firearms are necessary for self defense. This sort of carnage is only possible where legal gun ownership is outlawed. If you are afraid of firearms, be courageous and take a class on the safe and effective use of firearms.
As a US citizen I am shamed by many of the comments above. We are a people who once stood for freedom and equality. What I hear from many of you is hate and intolerance. Islam is the second largest religion of the world. I feel sorry for anyone who believes there is that much evil in the world. They must live in constant fear.
I am sorry for india
But i also watch the muslims around me.
I watch them because out of all the terrorist attacks in the last 40 years
some 13,000 (just the reported ones)
98% were committed by muslims
1% by hindus
.5% by so called christians (but they arent)
.5% by so called ulta orthadox jews (and they atrent either)
Its your stinking crappy relegion of pieces
Muslims you clean your crap up
Allah Akbar! These clowns cannot even spell it. Young guys with to much time on their hands and to much Koran!
As a fellow US citizen I have to ask 232 what are you talking about. The ones who saying they are from are country are defending the raw comments being made about it. What makes you think these comments are being typed by Americans. Please reread them. We stood for and still stand for those ideals. I am ashamed of you.
We constantly see the same violence for one part of the world to the other committed by the same terrorist group,Timothy McVay 's act was perpetrated only in the USA no where else and Ted Bundy was a Serial Killer for goodness sake.Stop looking to make the US the badie.
My friends in India: I am very sad that you have suffered in this way and send you good vibes and strength in this horrible hour.
Love,
Your Fellow Human Being
Wow, so much hatred on this board. Where are the moderators?
Seriously people need to be calm and collective when reading such news.
Pakistan is suffering at the hands of these barbarians on a weekly basis, dozens die every week, is there a headline about this? No because Pakistani lives cheap, dirt cheap. I feel for those who lost their family and friends in these attacks on Mumbai but some idiots just like to hype up the situation by pointing fingers at a certain group/religion/country. Such ignorance.. Don't blame the public, the Indian media is like the #2 bollywood, they might as well write movie scripts.. no wonder the public is so caught up in finger pointing. Finally Indians need to look in their own country, their own terrorists are being brought up. Just week ago the chief of ATF was investigating a Hindu terrorist cell and brave as is was he ge got shot in this Mumbai attack. Sounds fishy why him.
Pearl Harbor in Asia.
A Sleeping Giant awakened into a grim fury.
Remember what happened in Japan?
A time for war.
Gr8 camera work.. terrorist cant be the follower of any religion.. they are terrorist.. and we all are against of it.. to face terrorism and to clean this we have to come under the same umbrella.. catch my hand and i'm catching yours.. lets do it to save our world...
After reading the 232 comments that have been posted thus far, it's clear that the Internet has provided us all with a public service; that being, the validation that the world is largely populated by ignorant fools and idiot apologists incapable of evaluating events such as these with any amount of objectivity. This fact is almost as discouraging and as alarming as the acts being perpetrated by these Islamo-fascists. If this downward spiral continues, we are truly doomed. May God help us all.
JM above blames the USA, but Islam is an expansionist religion (remember it started in Mecca and marched up to Vienna), so let's not forget that. If the USA was a colonial power, then why didn't they conquer the world unopposed when they were the only ones with the A-bomb?
JM above blames the USA, but Islam is an expansionist religion (remember it started in Mecca and marched up to Vienna), so let's not forget that. If the USA was a colonial power, then why didn't they conquer the world unopposed when they were the only ones with the A-bomb?
As good muslims we should be ashamed,shocked & repentant for these doings by a few -who bring a bad name to all.All our radical priests & leaders should openly & sincerely denounce these terrorists & their families for silently supporting their young men to become jihadis to get all the fabulous rewards(72 virgins,wine & luxuries, etc ) for the families too.Only good muslims should thus stand up & show their real sincererity.In case of any future hostage crisis our leaders should come forward to talk to the terrorists on loudspeakers to release them-& not leave it to the army to act...
232:
Yes, there is that much evil in the world! Muslims had many opportunities to organize and vehemently condemn terrorism by staging public demonstrations. Instead, they staged public demonstrations for silly cartoons. By reasoning over terrorism, by finding excuses for terror and by failing to react to terrorism as a body, they are now held responsible for terrorist act. If not terrorists themselves, they are enablers of terror. We have had it with Islam and taqyia! No more!
what a shame!. when it happens in usa, you call perpetrators as "terrorists" but when it happens here they are referred as "gunmen". alan taylor your are hypocrite!.
These attacks are totally mindless and insane, and no muslim that I know of will ever condone such acts. However, the Indians have habitually blamed Pakistan for any trouble in their country conveniently looking away from the condition of their own Islamic population which comprises a sizable chunk. 40% of that segment lives below poverty according to conservative estimates. Radicalisation doesn't need anything more than collective economic plight. The "its Pakistan" mentality is sadly hardwired into the average Indian mind which make majority of the Indians blind to the mess in their own society.
Look. The Bible is no gem either if you dare to try to follow everything in it to the letter but the Koran is very very clear about hating non-Muslims who, according to the Koran, deserve to be either enslaved via Sharia law (Christians and Jews) or killed (Hindus, Buddhists and everyone else). The Koran ORDERS MUslims to take over the world. As such, the terrorists are the Muslims who are actually following the Koran to the letter.
They all wear sandles. Why do they all wear sandles?
I am muslim and denounce every bit of terror and pretty sure the people who did commit these crimes are burning in hell right now. Thats what they deserve.
"It is the duty of all human beings to think God out of existence. Then we have a future. Because then — and only then — do we take full responsibility for who we are. And that's what you must do: think God out of existence; take responsibility for who you are."
@215 (Parts of this message was also posted on other forums)
Been following the hostage situation for the past 58 hours. Some condemned, some swore, while others went about bashing each others religion. I left IR simply because of this. Its full of nutters who talk about political/international and have come to discuss them after having made their judgments.
A bunch of lunies have attacked, killed and held hostage a lot of innocent people. The least you all could do was to say a little prayer for them, which I'm sure sure a small number must have.
Yes these terrorists are muslims and they have killed alot of people but I don't see how muslim bashing on IR, where a huge chunk of muslims could be classified as 'moderates' would help.
These terrorists don't belong to a religion, country, organization or even a family. They belong to an ideology. An ideology that denounces political dialogue, an ideology that feels a sense of jubilance over killing innocent people who have done them no harm. An ideology that condemns those that disagree with them but above all seeks to justify its act.
These ideologies fit the frame of any militant fundamentalist group
Ideologies have always branched out of religions and unless people stop dissing each others' religion and work together to eradicate a problem faced by literally every community, nothing will change!!
Lack of knowledge about those outside our cultures, religion, community, caste whatsoever they may be, form the core of any ideology. And young people will keep getting brainwashed into committing these abominable atrocities.
Why is it that at a religious round table, every religion thinks they are right. Why do we all feel we are the chosen people. This is the reason behind every sh** that happens.
Let's hope the NSG's and MARCOS finish this within the least possible time span.
My message to those that may support such inhumanity is to pause for a moment and think about what is has changed?Resilient India will wake up tomorrow, remember the brave and life will go on. Think,whether any act of violence ever changed anything?
I urge Indians in particular to appeal to our government, whether it entails writing letters or speaking to politicians, MPs we may know and pass the message that enough is enough and unless we know go on the offensive, things won't change.
We can't change ideologies but there is nothing that can stop us from changing our destiny.
N.B- I forgot to mention that I am an Indian Muslim. I would be deeply offended if anybody every attempted to test my patriotism or question my religion. My religion is a matter most personal to me. I am proud of my country and my religion and wish I could do something to help. Furthermore, I feel there may be more people out there, like me who feel the same way .
Below is a message posted @215 by bse 5150 and the response is posted following his statement.
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"When is the last time you saw Muslims march for Peace? Women's rights? Nope! Slavery? OK by Islam! Killing anyone whose religion is different than Islam? That's OK too! Rape? OK if it's for Islam! Terrorism? Once again, OK if it's for Islam! Music - mostly illegal. Movies - mostly outlawed. Books - only allowed to read"
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Do you wish I showed you pictures of Peace rallies I attended? Or prove that I have never tortured a woman? Helped slavery even before i was born?Killed anyone?Raped anybody?Am a terrorist?Listen to pirated music? Or read outlawed book?
I sincerely hope what you said was in a fit of anger and would refrain from preaching the same thought to you children and your family. As for myself, I would regard myself as someone who doesn't deserve to be despised by anyone;blamed and passed judgments by those who've never met me and above it all, seen as a human being who feels the same was as you, or any other person.
If I was all that you condemn me to be, I wouldn't be here reading through all the posts, slavishly hoping and praying this was over with the least casualty. I wouldn't even be bothered writing back.
I am a 24 year old Indian Muslim who just wishes that you didn't condemn his existence. I am in every possible way different from what you think I am.
The world would be mostly (if not truly) at peace without people. Therein you will find your solution.
Terrorists like to attack victims who seem weak and defenseless. My heart goes out to all the innocents who's only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The Islamic world needs to acknowledge it has a serious problem and start taking responsibility for itself. Why is almost every country in the middle east except Israel so dysfunctional? It can't be a coincidence. By the way, if any terrorists plan on trying that in the US, there are more guns than people in that country. Food for thought.
eh guys.....guess what? we are the only species in the world that kill each other these much...war....terrorist attack....etc
just imagine a lion dude.....they never kill another lion right....though they kill each other to a small extent...
SO....STOP THIS.... God created us not to kill each other....OMG....
@aklmv: Just responding to being called a hypocrite - the word "gunmen" was merely used as a descriptive term, usually to distinguish the attackers from plainclothes policemen. "Gunmen" are also just as capable of carrying out terrorist attacks as "terrorists". Please don't get caught up in semantics - surely you can see there is no support for the perpetrators of these acts here.
There was no terrorism till USSR fell in 90s... It is well known that Al Queda and Laden were funded by US to fight socialist govt in Afganistan... US convinced its citizen's for militarisation of economy by showing the threat from USSR till 90... Now all the major capitalist countries need an enemy so that they can spend for their military... Who supplies arms to these terrorist groups, please think? International arms dealers?.... So that major economies will buy their goods?..... In India also there was very less Islamic terrorism till 90s... It became significant only after Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarath riots and India leaning more to US which unjustly attacked Iraq and Afganistan.... So the domestic and international policies of India as well as US helped the extrimists to grow..... No point in blaming any religion for the cause........
Amazing Photos.
Shocking, disturbing, sad images that are hard to comprehend yet my eyes are seeing the truth of it.
Proof of the evil in men's hearts, proof of mean spiritedness and wickedness to the core.
Lacking in both sense and sanity, and showing only cowardice and pure ignorance of their own religion.
A religion selfishly interpreted by bitter and twisted old men training young men to kill and die for them.
Terrorism and hatred meant to fracture and destabilize.
Yet which in time, actually does the opposite by uniting the world against them and strengthening our compassion for the victims and their families.
I am sad but I am not afraid.
Lets not give Terrorism a religion, I would be really harsh on the billion other people of the same religion.By reading u ppl comment i feel like its not us vs terrorist but a war between two religions.
ps:This is to the owner,thnx for sharing the pics,I however urge you to moderate the comments so that we dont have a situation here
i feel indian govt shall take lessons from what US did after 9/11.......... its now or never.......
Bravo Sayeed J.
As much as anyone else did, muslims have denounced these kind of acts all over the world. No person can ever think of agreeing with acts of terror.
Hatred is the last thing we need on this earth.
If we want to see our generation living in peace in future. We need to stop hating each other in the name of religion, country, color or culture.
We need to seriously start thinking for common good.
Stop rheatorics of eliminating each other. The moment we start thinking in this line, we start a chain of reaction. We should not become part of these kind of horrible acts and make the world filled with atrocities which our own generations will have to live with.
@237 & @258, re: your calls for comment moderation - they are being moderated, just so you know.
@212:
The point is not that only Muslims are susceptible to terrorism. There are plenty of counter examples, of course, like the IRA (Christians), the Lankan Tamils (Hindu/Chrisitan) etc. It seems to me that these groups, at least the Tamil tigers, are fighting a political war, though they use terrorism as a means. They're driven by the discrimination they face under the Lankan govt. I don't think religion plays any role at all in motivating them to commit suicide attacks. They see it as entirely political, not in the hope that dying as martyrs is a shortcut to paradise. Compare this with Islamic terrorists, who are mostly driven explicitly by their religious beliefs. This makes it all too easy to make terrorists out of Muslims. Muslims are not a problem, perhaps, but Islam is.
In 1985 the calcutta high court after detailed hearing had actually decided to ban this book-as direct incitement to kill non muslims- but the then govt after a lot of protests by muslim -dropped it--see details in google-refer below- can any radical leader & priest dare to deny this openly???
Calcutta Quran Petition ( to ban Quran in India)
Reader comment on article: Is Allah God?
Submitted by Burton (United States), Dec 2, 2005 at 15:23
Pasted from "Negation in India" by Keonraad Elst.
In 1985 Chandmal Chopra filed a petition with the Calcutta high Court, asking for a ban on the Quran. He added a list with reprehensible verses from the Quran: 29 assages from the Quran (1 to 8 verses in length) that incite violence against unbelievers, 15 which promote enmity, 26 which insult other religions.
So there are people who are still stupid enough to the US/ISRAEL thing is to blame for this? Radical Islamic fanaticism has existed before the Unites States ever did. If you live in the United States, and you think this is our fault, there's the door. Go live overseas, get a library card, do some research. Maybe you'll learn to appreciate this country when you're not a part of it.
It's about time we fought fire with fire and eliminated these people off the face of the earth. I'm a lifelong democrat, and God help me, I hate the thought of war as much as the next guy, but come on. The only thing these subhuman animals believe in is hatred and violence, and, brave souls that they are, they take it out on the innocent: surprise attacks on civilians. There's not a more cowardly, gutless act ever conceived. And because these heathens don't have the resources or bravery to do otherwise, they need to prove their own worth in this world by attacking those not equipped or prepared to fight.
My heart goes out to these victims. If India takes action, I will be steadfastly behind them 100%. If I could press the button that wipes this filth off of this planet , I would gladly take that responsibility and not miss a second of sleep. I'm sick and tired of a worthless, disgusting, immoral group of fanatics running around like gutless thugs trying to ruin our world. As I said before, I'm a lifelong democrat and I hate the situation my county is in, but I am getting sick and tired of this. It pains me that I feel this way.
Enough is enough. Like a previous poster said, I am sad, but not afraid. It's time we unite and take action. Anyone who feels differently might as well line up alongside these killers, and get the hell out of our way.
pls add pic of our heros who gave their lives for our nation we have to salute them first and all the political parties should atleast remember them
I hate these men. Yet even my hate would not allow me to kill bystanders in my search to destroy them. What on Earth could their objective be, that it requires such seemingly random violence? What solutions are there, that will not simply breed revenge in an endless cycle? If, by my hand, these men die, then will not their kinsmen seek my head in return?..it is a cycle with no end until one side is completely exterminated. Is there no other way?
It is time for islamic countries to control their own people and stop these fanatics by accepting responsibility. I would say if these mass killers come from Pakistan then make Pakistan a terrorist country by stoping all business trading, social relationship, and migration of its citizens with that country until the rest of the world is sure that no attacks like these will ever happen. we can not control all the crazy people in the world, but at least we can control this kind of behavior should not be accepted anymore. attacking any muslim country will not make things better, unless the whole worlds attacks like they did with Hitler. thats the only way to control and change the country.
People also need to pull their heads out of the sand & understand the politics, ideology & power game behind terrorism. Poverty & illiteracy are not the root causes. Osama was born into one of the richest families in the world. Zawahiri was a medical doctor. AT some point they were indoctrinated and found out how they can ride the tiger. Read about them. Even if USA pulled out of middle east and stopped looking at that direction, nothing will change. This is a game of world domination. Once Muslims reach 10% of any nation's population, all kinds of problems arise. Once they reach 51%, game over. Read about Dhimmism & dhimmitude. Open your eyes.
Unbelievable photos. Brings out the highly motivated, brainwashed and cold blooded attitude of terrorists. May god give strength to the people of India. I am totally moved, shocked, and still cant believe my senses that a thing like that has actually happened. It is high time now that the Indian government does something, that would totally prevent all this from happening again in future. For example take stern action, expedite the interrogation of all the people locked up and accused of terror activities in the past. Secondly strengthen the intelligence. Thirdly strive for strong international pressure, sanctions, etc. against Pakistan. Fourthly check the unchecked growth of hateful Islamic teachings spread through the Madarsas that have sprung up in so many corners of India.
#204 - "A terrorist is a man with a bomb WHO DELIBERATELY TARGETS CIVILIANS AS THE MAIN TARGETS, whether he has a plane or not."
In which case, Harry S Truman was the biggest terrorist of all, having deliberately targeted the CIVILIANS of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (neither of which cities had ANY military value) for nuclear annihilation.
Congrats Realist. You're angry just like everyone else. No one cares if you're a Democrat or not. The issue is that you can't figure out who the Islamic fanatics/terrorists are. How do you tell them apart from a peaceful practicing Muslim? You can't. Almost everyone supports the idea that terrorists need to be put in jail or shot, but it's idiotic to rant about it when it's not possible to do anything about it.
JAI JAWAAN
JAI BHARATH MAATA
"This is nothing camparing to what's happening in Palestine and kachmir. So don't talk too much."
Please substantiate that claim. Give me evidence so that I can at least empathise with you. Of course, I won't agree with you on looking at this incident with a less sympathising eye. There is no "tit for tat" when it comes to lives. The path these terrorists have chosen only leads to an endless cycle. You kill, I kill. Educuate the world of the misdeeds that you claim to be happening in Palestine or Kashmir and seek alternate, more peaceful, methods to solve your problem. Doing exactly what your "enemy" does is not going to save you.
Just like someone earlier said, I can't bring myself to hate an entire community for the misdeeds perpetrated by a misled bunch, but what were they thinking? Isn't what they did going to result in exactly that - a deeper communal divide?
Such news always portray Islam as the enemy, the cause of such evil doings. Take a step back and look at the situation in Palestine now, Those folks there are really suffering the hard life there. I am not a muslim btw, i'm just another human being...
"Israel and USA started all this madness"
Yep, just like the Jews started all that madness with Hitler. Poor little Islamonazi nutbags. It is not their fault they were turned into fanatical murderers. They were probably oppressed by some evil Jew or arrogant American somewhere and had no choice but to attack innocents. If we could just understand how they feel or maybe give them a hug it would all be better. Let's not point fingers about what religious affiliation is to blame. Let's just let it fester until the next group of virgin seeking wackos decides to murder another couple hundred people. Our thoughts and actions should go out to the innocent people in India. America stands with you against this evil.
Enough is enough.
Killing the human being is not acceptable.
Terrorist are not human being and also they are not 5 sense animals.
Terrorist are unwanted thing, should be thrown out from the earth.
I felt very bad after listening the news of attack. I am sad but not afraid, it's time we unit & take action against these terrerist attack.I heartly salute to Mr. Hemant Karkare that he is loss his life in the Mombai attack.
I am sad / terriffied / speechless / angry / helpless / ...
It looks like the world is going towards another great war... crusade would maybe be the better word for it.
So much hate and violence... and Religion is put as the reason...
Nonesense I say! It's not the religion that you believe in... it's the people teaching you this religion!
I am living in Kuwait for 5 years and i am 'surrounded' by muslims. Did I ever feel threatened by Islam? NO!! Did I ever get shocked by some of their LEADERS preachings? YES!! Did I ever get shocked by 'our' leaders preachings! YES!
Is an educational issue... If you are not allowed to question your teacher and his teachings, you are condemned to believe everything he says. Kinda like some movements in the US that want to change the school books and base everything on religion other then science.
Only a small fraction of muslims (AND CHRISTIANS TOO) are blinded by their teachers (preachers) and do such terrible acts or support them. The vast majority is as disgusted by such acts as I am or the rest of this world.
My condolences to not only the victims of this terrible attack but also to all families all over the world that are losing their loved ones over relgious fights and misinterpretation!
This is only to be expected from people who do not give any credence to patriotism and nationalism. Unfortunately, there is a big community who still belives in archaic laws and interpretetations and for them they are unable to see the progressiveness and development of modern society. Their medivial beliefs and fanatic doctrination which includes religious books can be stopped only by ruthless neutrliazation of such elements and suppression of these called "Human Rights" activists who protest at every opportunity presented to them.....
Please remove all comments claiming that this is ISLAM
i am not surprised to read all those comments..... and someone wisely said about getting library cards and doing some research... i hope you will find the results of flowers being thrown on iraqis, afghanis, pakistanis, palestinians and of course kashmiris.... and this might be the first of reaction from gujratis tooo....
Its very easy to blame on muslims but let me pose a question to all of you... how many of you really felt like this when whole iraq and afghanistan was being ruined.... dead bodies were lying everywhere.... haaaaa..... you might not have even thought for a moment..... its a simple rule of life guys... as you sow so shall you reap...
now you must be thinking what kind of a fanatic i am .... and thats what i am asking myself right now... i was feeling the same pain as you did when all this happening in mumbai but after reading all these comments it appears that i wasted my tears...... and right now again i am cursing myself about whom i am talking too....... all those who clap and enjoy when muslims around the world get killed ...... is that what your ultimate aim is............ Oh GOD what am i saying.... are you turning another common muslim into an extremist......... may be thats what you guys want.......may be thats what is the destiny of this world...... people fighting with each other and blaming each other...... finishing each other's races.....
MAY GOD HELP US ALL..................
India should take hard action against this attack, like US has taken after 9/11. Call it war and finish terrorism and supporting nation. We want peace forever. Dont want live like afraid people.
Halla Bol.......
GUYS it is not ISLAM which is to blame here. No religion supports such acts and as a person who resides in the middle east, we know and and understand this relgion better.
What is that talk about muslims ffs... you really think a REAL muslims agree with these terrorist actions?
These fiends want kashmir. They are pigs in a drainage eating the Hindus' excreta. Give kashmir to them and let them (Indian as well as Pakistani muslims) burn in the hell that is Pakistan.. Peace will return to india once we do this.
Think of how many thousands of lives have been lost only because our false sense of patriotism and the mule-in-the-sand attitude. Why convert the other parts of India too killing fields.
I do not take issue with the religion of the perpetrators of this horrible act. Instead, I take issue with the way they practice their religion. Doubtlessly, there have been, are, and will continue to be moderate, enlightened Muslims, such as Sayeed J at 251, who would never dream of committing such acts, let alone condone them. Our real enemy in this "War on Terror" is ignorance, not Islam. Denying the perpetrators' humanity is contrary to the point. They suffer, just like the rest of us suffer. I call on everyone who disagrees with this point to question why it is that you do not agree. I do not presuppose that they, the perpetrators, should go unpunished; I do, however, advocate that those who react with vitriol examine closely the differences between themselves and those who did this.
So, here is what typically happens whenever we have a terrorist attack on our soil:
1. Pakistan releases a statement that they condemn the attacks, and that their country is fighting terrorists of their own on their western front.
2. All the Islamic organizations around the world come out and denounce the attacks, some willingly some unwillingly am sure.
3. Muslims will keep re-iterating upto no end, that their is a peace loving religion and that whoever is guilty will burn in hell....blah blah blah.
4. Indian politicians will blame Pakistan, blame the opposition party.
5. The Indian public will salute the slain officers, give them state funerals, award them gallantry medals, parade their remaining kin during the award ceremony.
6. The "elite" media, will hide behind their secular veils and characterize these attacks as the result of disenfranchisement of Islamic youth because of poverty, etc.
7. AND THEN WE FORGET ABOUT PAKISTANI COVERT WAR, ISLAMIC MILITANTS AND OUR INEPT POLITICIANS, UNTIL THE NEXT ATTACK.
Now, what needs to really happen is we have to be in a position of strength and not of weakness. When we can show our country is strong then anyone will think twice before they attack us. Strength of might, strength of purpose and strength in cohesiveness. Unless we put our national security above all other issues we will not be able to achieve this strength to defend ourselves and reply aptly to these attacks.
We have gathered lots of proof tying Pakistan to numerous terrorist attacks within our country. Let all the Muslim organizations and all muslims in India take out a march to Pakistan and show that they are really on our side, let the Indian muslims break all religious ties with Pakistan. These are not times for lip-service alone, any more. We need the support of Indian muslims in preventing these attacks as much as we need the help of our military. Indian muslims need them to show that they are serious and not unparticipating bystanders.
India has been too soft on terror all along.........time to wake up, take strict actions against Pakistan sponsored terrorism.
Israel and USA started all this madness
Posted by Dead Turkey November 28, 08 07:00 PM
Yes we all know !
If you have a flat tire than it must be Israel and Americans fault
If you have no brains than it must be the Jews and Americans
Glad we could accomadate you and your coherts
India's Federal Government is entirely to blame for these attacks. The de facto Prime Minister of India Sonia Gandhi has not given permission to any of the functionaries of her Government to act against the terrorist network operating in India. In fact Sonia Gandhi's Government has a lot to gain from the acts of terror. It strengthens the Muslim vote bank of the Indian Congress Party which is headed by Sonia Gandhi. India's home Minister in-charge of internal security Shivraj Patil is so ineffective that the Rubber-stamp Prime Minister of India has convened a meeting of Security Agencies to discuss the post-Mumbai attack situation without inviting Shivraj Patil to the meeting. It is high time the World leaders begin to question Indian Government over its indirect support to the spread of terrorism all over the World.
Terrorirsts were successfull in every target.. this shows failure of Police... corrupted politicians which resulted in poverty which encourages terrorism in both Pakistan and India... incapable police... failure of Media(There may be more media people on streets than police )... at the same we should not forget how US and Russis indirectly encouraged extremists in Afghanistan during coldwar .. who are terrorists now... and how much they failed in Iraq .. everybody should accept their failure and try to reconcile it...
Not all muslims are terrorists, but it seems almost all terrorists are muslims.
What did they ever contribute to the world?
indian goverment sleeping like anything,even they know who is behind the scene.
now its time for some action not for talking.
Sayeed J - Well, am sure you can do something about it.....think hard about it and you might be able to do something real and concrete so that you muslim brothren dont keep killing innocent people. I can suggest a lot of things that you can do, but being a muslim you know what you are taught and how you are taught, am sure you might have an idea why the majority of the terrorists in this world are Muslim. There must be something that these terrorists are being taught, something that they have been brainwashed with.....if you know what it is, and if you have the heart to tackle those issue, then you have the responsibility to try to correct the situation. You are not helping yourself or your religion just by saying some nice words about the attacks....THIS IS THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING. The burden or responsibility is more on you do something because you are a muslim. If a Hindu/Christian suggests that somethings have to change then the entire muslim world will perceive it as an attack. That is the reason why the change has to come from within. You and thousands of your muslim brethren can become agents of change..... BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO BE THAT CHANGE is what you have to answer yourself.
hello i want to ask indians,their army and their govt. what they did in gujrat??in ahmadabad??they killed thousands of innocent childran,men women because they were muslims...what is indian army doing in kashmir???if u supress one's rights he will take action.involvement of pakistan in every issue has been the criterea of indians.you must remember the day when"samjhota express"was attacked by terrorists and indian spokesman blamed pakistan for this act.now investigations have proved that it was indian's army person "terrorist"again the same person has blamed pakistan for it..how can one believe now.............
my thoughts, prayers and condoleances to all victims of these cowardous attacks on innocent civilians. Also I hope India will keep their calm in their response. Hunt down those responsible; first of all the aggressors but a big question from my side is HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?! Bombay is a metropole, like NYC of India. Is there no security or where was it? India has had so many terrorist attacks, you would expect at least Bombay would be densly secured. Smells like complete political failure.
Meera -
You feel there will be some Indians who will be rejoicing at this carnage? There might be some Indians who would feel this whole act was righteous?
There is no sane person who can rejoice at this, that being said, there will not be a single Hindu in India even remotely affirmative of these cruel actions. There might be some Muslims in India who are fanatics and extremists, but they are not Indians, they are not even citizens of any country, because their religion is death.
Similarly, there will be more than a few Muslims in Pakistan rejoicing right now.
Pakistan is to blame because it was a perpetrator. Unfortunately it is true, but this is a breed of Islamic terrorism.
With each such incident, muslims are alienated from the rest of the world as they are too afraid to denounce these fundamentalists openly. There is no point in crying on the oppression by west or other. They are oppressed within their society and they have absolutely no voice. I feel sorry for them.
If anybody wants to get rid of terrorism from India
They have 2 do 2 thing only. GET RID OF CORRUPTION and GET RID OF DIVIDE AND RULE POLICY. Which nearly all the bloody politian do.
Just one example. As Indian Goverment says that there are around 7 Lakhs Army personal is in Kashmir. The whole of Kashmir Population is around 1 Crore (10 million people means every 12 people there is a army personal. How can a terrorist enters in such a huge security. Corruption is the main reason for terrorism any body can come in India by bribing officers
It is time India takes action and not worry about what other nations say. Sanctions and isolation should not worry us Indians, because we know that God is with India and we will be well off. We have always loved peace and have preached peace but there are times when strict action needs to be taken. India is a beautiful country, one of a kind, but surrounded but enemies on all sides. With China, Pakistan and Bangladesh around, one cannot expect anything good because these nations have not known PEACE, MERCY and KINDNESS. With the current leadership, I don't think anything is going to happen. I would like to see a change at the top and see someone very differebt who is confident, courageous and aggressive and at the same time kind and merciful to see to it that the right message is sent out to world and also to the people Of India. May the almighty God guide us in the right direction.
Please check the photo No. 5 and investigate what this GUNMAN IS WEARING ON THE RIGHT HAND WRIST. This things to be noticed as so many things can be found out from this.
Its just horrifying to see those bloody images. Indian government Including our so called cm vilasrao should commit sucide. what they are giving to innocent people these kind of undefining death. I want to ask all the politicians if they cant protect a common man, what kind of leaders they are. They are just here to sit on our money and enjoy their lavish positions. Its not about a single party. every party in India should ask a question to themselves; are they doing the right thing?
I want to ask them what kind of development they had given to Indian people.? Congress covernment sucks. Its a time for Indian ppl to wake up. salute to martyrs
Rose @ 207, i couldn't agree with you more.. i wish people realised that terrorism has no religion / no god.. it's so easy for one to point fingers at muslims as being the cause of all this disturbance.. but arent they also human beings? dont they also experience the feelings of love, fear and loss..? it's the pathetic breeding that some group is hell bent on, that is actually bringing about so much hatred and violence. It's pointless taking examples from the past and concluding that Islam is the main cause behind all this..it wont change anything..and neither is it possible to wipe out the region, as suggested by some on this forum.. the only option we have now is acceptance and love towards one another. I know, as difficult as it may seem, it is perhaps our only chance at human beings. Hatred does nothing, it solves nothing. It is love that will ultimately make a difference.
This is a very sad day. There are many reasons why it happened. Following are the most important.
Irresponsible Political Parties, Poor Governance and Corruption:
Tons of ammunition can come to India and we don't even know that it is coming inside. Why? Corrupt customs and excise officials, are to be blamed. No matter which political party comes to power there is no cure for corruption in India. People are so corrupt that they will allow ammunition to come inside the country. Why not investigate the properties of Customs and Excise officers and compare it to their wages? What about illegal immigrants in India? There are large number of illegal immigrants in India, and government does not want to deal with it. India is a "dharmashala"! The country is getting eaten from inside and now only a handful group of people, about 30-40 can inflict city's blood. What would have happened if there were say 200 terrorists instead of 30-40?
This is WAR! Mr. CM and Dy. CM DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? When are we going to understand that this is a WAR? If there had been about 200 terrorists instead of 30-40, they could have controlled the whole city for at least a week. Mr. Deshmukh, Mr. Patil DO YOU REALLY GET THIS OR ARE YOU BLIND AND DEAF?
Incompetent security infrastructure:
Police are neither trained nor are they prepared for such attacks. Given the circumstances, and equipments they have, they DO THEIR BEST! But, here there are terrorists with AK47 and AK57, and here are our cops with service revolver or a Hawaldar with a stump!! To all the political parties: With the amount you spend on election, I am sure we can buy enough automatic weapons for at least Mumbai police. The cops even don't have proper helmets and body armor to deal with this! So when they are going in, death is a certainty!
Unreasonable Judicial Procedures:
1993 Bomb blast case is still not finished. Sanjay Dutt was found guilty in that case and he is still making crores in films, and contemplating to run for an office. Is our JUDICIAL SYSTEM A JOKE? If people are not scared of the punishment, how could you deter them? Afzal Guru was found guilty but the punishment is still not carried out! WHY? What message are we sending to the terrorists?
Life is Commodity in India:
Life is cheap and a commodity in India! Lets face it. Neither our politicians nor we ourselves view life as a precious thing. We have so many of them! Right? I am confident that nothing will change. In couple of years we will have another, and more bolder attack perhaps, and the things won't be different! At that time the difference will be number of innocent lives taken. May be thousands will die. WHO CARES? Certainly neither Congress, nor BJP. This is a fact.
US was attacked only once on the mainland after World War II. They taught the lesson of a lifetime to the attackers. There has not been a single attack on the mainland in last 7 years. "Ek parinda bhi par nahi mar sakata"! is a fact in US. There is a reason why it is a super power. US is called as the land of the free and home of the braves! What should I call my country? Land of the corrupt politicians and home of the gutless leaders? Is this the same country of Mahatma Gandhi, Lokmanya Tilak and Sardar Patel? As an Indian I dare to say, that we are light years away from being a Superpower! Only 30-40 kids between the ages of 20-25 can shatter a country like never before. It takes more than 24 hours to flush out these kids from our own homeland, and we dream of superpower! What kind of Super power? BPO or Software Export Super Power? This day has made a scar on my mind which will never heal!
Solution:
Punish the political parties in the elections! Ask the leaders tough questions! Let them know enough is enough! Now is the time not to follow these gutless leaders but to lead from the front.
Finally, my salute to the police force and soldires who are not afraid to die for us. They are not worried about their families! On this Thanks giving Day, I cannot say in Words, what your sacrifice means to all of us! Many Thanks, and WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU AND YOUR SACRIFICE!
JAI HIND!
Ohh...my country man....It is enough.
We Mumbaikars do not want to get fooled by the words anymore....Mumbai will bounce back.....Mumbai the city that never sleeps....
These politicians are the real cheats. Even at this hour the Prime Minister and the Opposition Leader of the country cannot come together....after all it is the vote that matters most to these people....Shame on us that we have such political parties...
Hates off to those brave hearts( the NSGs, the Army, The Mumbai Police and the others ) who faught the battle with lot of care to save the innocent lives. The country is proud of you all.
My prayers to the God for those who died in the operations fighting the Islamic Terrorists....MAY THE SOULS OF THESE MARTYRS REST IN PEACE and I pray to the Almighty to give enough strength to their families to come out of this situation.
Jitendriya Mahapatra
I'm living in Indonesia which is the largest population of Muslims in the world.
True about how muslim is so NOT tolerant to other belief than theirs. If there's an act against Muslim or Muslim countries (like Palestine and Israel war) somewhere in the world, all of the Muslim groups here are protesting, making wildfire statements.
When this Mumbai incident happen, the media here is doing their work as usual. Reporting, posting pictures and possible connection of the Mumbai terrorist with Al-Qaeda. And the Muslims extremist here? Well they kept cool and not doing thing as probably they watch and read the news of Mumbai incident with proudness.
They cannot stand of the Genesis 16, the story of how the Muslim got to be here in the first place. Ishmael is the "unwanted" son of Abraham. Son outside the marriage. So when Isaac born, Ishmael had to leave. Later on the descendants of Ishmael are known to be Arabs and Isaac descendants is Jews. So up until now, the Muslims are 'fighting' their way, so to speak, to get recognition which they will never get.
The brutal honest is every muslim knows this story and is afraid to hear it. They cannot stand the truth that they are the unwanted ones. Rather than the Christians as the chosen one. They're just lost. Not too late thou. God said make every nation his desciples.
Not my word. God's
Where is the "silent" muslim majority that is seen to be moderate? Can't its members form a movement to cleanse their religion of such inhumane violence? Or are they secretely rooting for the terrorists? Is Islam a religion of peace or one of hatred of the infidel?
If Islam preaches strength in the face of adversity and defense of the innocent why isn't this silent majority taking a public stand? Why aren't moderate muslims marching the streets of Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Dhaka, Islamabad, Tehran, Mecca, Ankara, etc...demanding an end to this violence which also kills their brethen?...It can't be just fear of their fundamentalist minority? All other major religions and spiritual philosophies have shown the way for a purposeful leader to take on the mantle of peace and love and reform their belief systems from within...Many (Jesus, Gandhi, etc.) have died in this endeavour...Maybe in time, islam will find an illuminated reformer who will deliver its followers from a perpetual "victim mentality" and a schizophrenic view of the world around them..He or she (that can't be impossible???) may relegate the present Quran to the status of the Old testament (with a demonizing and unforgiving God/Allah and his sidekick Moses/Mohammed) and inspire by his/her deeds suras of a forgiving and loving messenger of God (a la Jesus/Buddha/Gandhi)....Time only will tell. Until then, everyone (Muslims and Infidels) should brace themselves for years/centuries of spiraling violence! Insha Allah!
Hats off to Our Commandos for their bravery act andKill all muslim bastards and send them to pakistanand bombarded the whole country forever..including Imam of Jama masjid..and Huriyat leaders...
Paying homage to the great heroes of the war on terror in Mumbai !!!
http://flickr.com/photos/kumar2008/sets/72157610399422472/detail/
We salute you.
its wakeup time for indian government and also for each and every indians.please tell these politicians apart from there seats there is something that constitutes india and thats we indians.to begin with first we have to clear the dirt from witin us.nasty political games,secular atmosphere with a breath of free air.its time up.its now time for all indians to stand up put hands together and fight against all odds.many of us run away from such situations but tommorow it can be you.so stand up all for your rite and lets prove we are the best.
The Indian politicians are too BUSY Filling up their own pockets that the common mans life has gone for a toss. There has to be an internal connection here.so if someone is there listening to me then we should stand up against this gruesome act.
Keep aside all blame game against religion. Fanatics are like Virus. They prevail everywhere. These killers who are nothing but tools doing the bad work meted out by powerful King Bees (such as politicians, business people with vested interests, religious fundamentalist etc). It is quite clear that through the years of terrorist mayhem carried out right from the U.S to Europe, India, Pakistan etc., these people will continue to carry out life threatening activites to create more discord. If we read history, its unfortunate that it continues to repeat itself. So learn from the past,, correct the present,,and plan best for the future.
i am shocked to see all this happening in my motherland,contract killers[terrorist's] killing innocent people,for the purpose not known to anybody who has been killed by them,govt should go deep in tracking the real culprits behind all this carnage,even bomb the camps in pok where all the training is going against us as usa did when it was attacked on 9/11,its time now to take some drastic measures otherwise this will happen again ,God help my country and it's people from all this.
its high time v stand up for this cause. v have tolerated enough and not anymore.its time when there should be a strict check on d pakistani's giving training to such ppl in their home country.like what the americans did to afghanistan and iraq after 9/11..its our turn to do it with our neighbours.carrying out such acts of open terror in the name of jehad wont amuse allah,,tell dose sick animals who are killing our people.
This is work of Indian poiliticians who are afraid that the ATS will open all the files and will nail them. All these sadhus and mullah are hand in glove. They make merry behind and show hatred in front of camera.
When the terrorist attack why are the common public made target and not these Togadia and imams who make all this irresponsible comments and give hate speeches. The reason is they are the one spreading terror and if a tru report is ever made it will not be surprising if they are the culprits.
and if they are so sure that pakistan is the enemy why the hell they are not attacking and finishing the story. Or maybe they are afraid that if they do it they will stop getting money from them.
Our leaders have only guts to make chariots and ride them and break mandir/masjid and create hatred and kiil. Advani who actually should have been hanged for casuing so much destruction of life is looking forward to become a PM. The idiot comes to mumbai cst and says he is assessing the situation and wants to get a feel of it. I guess what he meant was he wants to see if the money they paid to the terror guys have doen there work or not.
The bitter fact still remains that Indian politics still follows "divide and rule" even after the British are long gone...
Mohammad AT, about your keen observation about the 'Hindu' red band worn by one of the terrorists - unfortunately he is the guy caught alive and has spilled the beans about the plot, apart from confesssing being a Muslim from Faridkot Pakistan.
Your lies and denial in the face of glaring facts exposes your guilty mind. Yes that guy is a Hindu, pigs fly and Dawood Ibrahim has not been granted asylum by the government of Pakistan. Who are you trying to fool ?
terrorist ...
In an age where the word " Impossible " seems non existing, whether it be advancements in technology, innovations, management theories, health & science, why are we not able to find solution to this rappidly spreading deadly desease " Terrorsim". Is kiiling the " On the site Terrorists" the only solution ? Can't we make efforts in studying the psycology of these terrorists to find the root cause of such inhuman behaviour ?
COMMENTING ON THIS KIND OF TERRORISM IS NOT ENOUGH. GOVT. MAKE A VERY STRICH ACT AGAINST TERRORISM (LIKE OR MORE THAN POTA ACT ) SHOULD BE INTRODUCED IN CONSITUTION OF INDIA. ALSO FOR INTRODUCING OF ANTI TERRORISM NEW LAWS ALSO TO BE DISCUSSED.
NOT POLITICAL GROUPS RELATED, IT SHOULD BE INDI PEOPLES SAFETY RELATED
In 1939, most Germans were "moderate" Germans, and a minority were fanatical Nazis. But, because they failed in their duty to stamp out the evil that exists in their midst, Germany, Not Nazi's, Germany, started a world war which lead to millions of deaths.
Moderate muslims may be a majority, and only a small minority may be doing these dastardly acts, but like the "moderate" germans of 1939, they are doing a terrible job of containing a problem that clearly exists in their midsts.
As others have pointed out, more than 95 % of all terrorist activities involve muslims as the agressors. This is surely not coincidence. This is a fact which can be confirmed through some basic googling, which people like SUraj in their politically correct mindset do their best to ignore. Why is it that the maximum number of terroism victims after Iraq, are in India ???
India is not opressing Iraq, not invading Palestine, nor even claiming Kashmir on religious grounds, purely on legal ones. Muslims need to stop inventing "root causes" to justify such evil and WITHOUT ANY QUALIFICATION OR EQUIVOCATION, condemn such acts.
Those who dismiss such acts as those of "lunies and Nutters" need to get of their high horse and ask themselves, why so many of these lunies and nutters are inspired by what they read in one particular holy book, the quaran.
Also, to those who belive "oppression of minorities" is a justification for killing innocent people, here's some advise, read up about the Indian Freedom movement led by the Mahatma. Read about the black civil rights movement led by Martin Luther King, and go back a bit and read / see the images of buddhist monks marching unarmed against the Burmese army. Plenty of oppression to go around in all these cases, yet, largely peaceful.
What is it about Muslims being "oppressed", that is different or worst than any of these ? And please highlight what these "oppressions" are supposed to have been. The civilised world transfers billions a year in extortionate oil wealth to Mid east, fanatical, oppressive regimes for Oil, and they re export poisonous ideologies back to us, this is the "oppression" ? 5 middle east countries tried to wipe out a legally created country at birth, and boasted of wiping out those inhabitants of that country who had been luck enough to survive German Death camps. WHen they lost, Israel , as any victor nation has done, consolidated its territories. This is oppression ????
Sorry, Muslims are responsible for this, and Muslims have to solve this.
While it is true that this is the face of Islamic terrorism, I find it hard to blame the religion as a whole. I wonder if this form of virulent medieval ideology is not an expression of Arabic expansionism and desire for hegemony. I cannot help feeling that there is an undertone of Arabic agenda being imposed upon the non Arab muslims. I believe that the general Arabic attitiude towards non-arabs are quite demeaning regardless of whether they are Muslims. If you look around the world, you will see that there is always an Arab ideology, often even a physical leadership that is behind these terrorist attacks. The primary means of extending the arab agenda is of course the madrasas or the islamic religious schools. No wonder most of them are funded by the kingdom of saudi arabia! See Bangladesh and Pakistan for the impact these have had. And, by the way, these are also active in India, Indonesia, Malayasia. So whe you look at the close relation between USA and Saudi Arabia, you got to wonder if it is time to rethink the whole geopolitical game. By blaming a whole religion per se, you may be missing the ball. Perhaps there are groups (e.g. non-arabs) within the muslim population that needs help to fight against the facsism of another group.
i feel indian govt shall take lessons from what US did after 9/11.......... its now or never.......
I think you forgetting there was terror attack Mariot Hotel in Pakistan...Terrorists are terrorists....I am glad Pakistan Govt did not point fingers straightaway at India....but India instead of looking at the problem within themself blaming others. Why Chief of Intelligent service got killed and its not a big news...He got killed by terrorists because he exposed Hindu Terrorism on Samjota Train few weeks ago, would any other Security man expose anymore Hindu terrorism? Ofcourse not because he has seen what they are capable of doing.....and did you see the boat which they claiming terrorist came in? do you really think with your brain you can travel from Karachi to
What a shame, condolences to all those who had to loose their lives....
also... for those sick disgusting individuals that keep talking about how Islam is the reason.... I got news for you ignorant and moron fools... YOU ARE AS DISGUSTING AS THE TERRORISTS THAT COMMITTED THIS ACT.....
thats right, a lot of people who commented here are as disgusting, stupid, hateful, sick and twisted as those guys in the pictures with the guns....
to nextfactor,
WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE MASACARE OF GUJRAT IN 2002 ?
They were all Hindus who killed thousands of Muslims (only)
Were they brought to justice. NEVER...
this one is a terrorist act, and the terrorists killed everyone, regardless of the religion, forget Pakistan for time being and try to clear those more than 30 indian terrorist groups who operate within india, once you do that, I'm sure you will not be having these kind of activities.
MASTERMIND OF MUMBAI ATTACKS-INDIAN POLITICIANS:- Sad but True...Indian Politics has attained another successful victory i.e. The Mumbai 911. This politics of BJP with masterminds of Advani, Modi and the flag bearers of RSS has brought HUMANITY to a very shameful state not only once but many a times.(We all know what and How). This attacks have a very postive link with the ongoing Sadhvi case (Malegaon Blast). People Who was the one inquiring and interrogating, following up, about this case and almost had some major names that were to pop out those who had masterminded the Malegaon Blast? YES ITS WAS THE ATS CHIEF HEMANT KARKARE WHO WAS KILLED FEW MINUTES AFTER ARRIVING AT THE CRIME SCENE. Think People think before its too late to say OH MY GOD!
Some top bosses did not wanted their names to pop out in the Sadhvi case, so only way out was to create this inhumane drama as thier scapegoat.
DONT EVER SUSPECT OR CALL THE MUSLIMS AS TERRORIST. FIRST LOOK INTO YOUR COLLAR THEN SPEAK.
people,let us not start the blame game before we know the facts.pakistan as a country is clearly not involved.they have their own problems and continuous terrorism in their own country everyday! the common man in pakistan has no time for this.the gunmen were not paid assasins,they were jihadis. willing to die for a cause.they were misguided youth,trained by fanatics and made to beleive in a cause beyond their understanding, and this is the problem with our young today all over the world. they have no direction,and live a mis spent youth. as parents,councillors,teachers,leaders we are to blame.we need love and understanding not hatered and venom to resolve this crisis.
War on terrorism has got to START. We cannot let it die as a politically correct cliche anymore. If Pakistan Govt. has any involvement in this dastardly act, then they must be made to pay. They can no longer be tolerated as an ill-behaved cousin of India. The perpetrators and the instigators MUST PAY.
nice picture but very sad to see our peoples blood
@210
All Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are muslims..Y so?
For the Islamic Militants they have succeeded in producing a solutionless problem. How the civilised governments of the world approach this is crucial where politics have got to be put to one side.
Where is this enemy of the planet ?. How can we wipe them out ?.
My heart cries for the victims and families in Mumbai. Its a very sad time.
If we know who (country or personal ) is responsible for this, then why we are waiting ! Just go and finish them as US done after 9/11. If they can do, then we also do same for our country.....
Late Hement karkare a Sincere & Clean Hearted Officer who came in lime light because of Malegoan Case , Who We Lost in this attack , Don't u all think the Location & Movement of these officer was rightly shown to estrimist through out electronic media ? I Condem his death & Suggeest Goverment that in such cases Govt should BAN ALL PRIVATE NEWS CHANNEL & ONLY GOVT CHANNEL SHOULD GIVE THE NECESSERY NEWS !! " All TV News Channel should Donate their this 3days Earning what They have earn through Advertisment to Mumbai Police / NSG for instaling Camera's at Airports / Rail stations / imp Places with AMC Contract & Recording Centre "
By And Large now the situation has come that West and US must Stop all aids to Pakistan and its Govt. even if it is humanitarian aid. This country must be bycotted from all the corners. There must not be any diplomatic relations of all the countries with Pakistan for atleast 2 years from now till the normanlcy is established. Pak Govt must stop all their aids and support through ISI to these militants and religious outfits who carry out all these missons all over the world. They must be instructed to flush out terrorist camps in PoK. Or India and US military Jointly do so in PoK. like US is doing on Pak - Afgan border. This mission was carried out by pakistani boys in their late teens and early 20s, picked up from UK and other nations, trained in POK for 7 months, given 1 month holiday and brought to karachi for another 1 month training in marine fighting for capturing and driving ships , boats, swimmimg etc. Some of the terrorists were able get job of waiters in Taj hotel too to get familiarise with Taj topography and were already present on 26/11 to aid their counterparts. (Similar to US twin tower attack where terriorists were trained as pilots in their own training school).
This is a cowardly act.As for the victims i am very sad and pray for them .
hi everybody i think its not right to blame islam or specifically muslims before facts come out u never know it might b some body else..ne ways i think its bjps plot to do all this to show the civilians that congress govt .is unable to handle this problems n why such big disaster only happnes when general elections are so near....last time they did this big riot in gujarat just for vote bank......come on grow up....islam strictkly denies killings of innocent pple and one who does it he is not a muslim .....so stop blaming religion its not gonna solve the problem it will only make it worse...u cant just get away from ur duties by blaming other religions....
unite against "TERROR" kill TERROR
love the world not any religion
Its the time to wage war against PAKISTAN.
Disintegration of Pakistan based such groups and Annihilation of sponsors of such terrorist activities is the need of the hour.
wait and watch now.....for the INDIAN RESPONSE.....
whate ver it may have been the eason for them to attack...but we indians are to remove their junk,,.....
it is said......"to forgive the terrorists is in the hands of god....
but to fix their appointment is our job" - NSG
a mourn of two min for those who helped, participated and died in the havoc of the attack...Thank you.
indian muslim leaders do not have courage to comment on this issue
as per my friend who survived the attack from shooting spree at cst railway station,25% of those killed were muslims.
i've never been a fan of islam or any other religion to be honest, our little planet would be better off without any of them and although it is very probable that these atrocities were carried out by muslims i believe its just another sad case of brainwashing young men into commiting mass murder, the age old battle of good versus evil carries on, may the victims rest in peace and my heart goes out to all their families
Amazing! when a single person or a group of people do killing by showing themselves Muslims, Islam is blamed all over the media. But in a lot of such incidents in USA where priests commit crimes, where religious students bring guns in colleges and universities to kill other students and teachers (very common in USA compared to other countries) no religion is mentioned, even when most of them are true followers of Christianity. Have you ever heard of the the term "Christianists" or "Jewists" when people kill in the name of Christianity and Judaism respectfully. If media continues to become hypocrite and portray Islam bad instead of blaming the bad Muslims, they won't be able to stop such acts. If Islam is not the Religion of peace than why is it the fastest growing ever
The media is the biggest hypocrite.
iam sad , iam angry, iam crying..most of all iam flng shaken n helpless. Is anybdy listening? shud i blame my fate . my stars, my numbers if i or my loved ones die like this. that we were at the wrong place at the wrong time. How much time do we need to wake up before taking an action? hw many more innocent lives need to be lost? shud the common man take up guns n fight these terrorists? what do u want to say mr home minister???? are u listening? is it ur duty to just give statments and leave our fate to us? try hurting urself a bit and u may fl the pain everyone is going thru today. these are nt 170 or more people killed, these are 170 families who died because their loved ones died. nw the govt will give statements n the opp parties will encash on this situation n try to win public votes. everyone wants to live. even those who sacrificed their lives for us ..even they wanted to live. Is it only their responsibility to protect us?Who is to blame? Maybe we all are to blame. We only believe in ' i me myself' attitude? We alws say we are punjabis,sindhis,tamils , hindus,muslims bt we dnt call ourselves indians. Should such a grave tragedy bring us together? iam at a loss of words. i appeal to everyone to stand united and bring this to an end. i appeal to the politicians that pls dnt play with our lives and take action. i dnt want to die like this and i dnt want my loved ones to die like this. my tribute and salutations to the brave men who died fighting for us and to the people who helped those in danger.
@ 154 ali
f*** u ali....remember one thing...ho sakta hain tum ek ache muslim ho,but majority of d muslims have spoiled the world...!!!
all muslims r not terrorists,but all terrorists r muslims..!!!
remember dis!!n stop takin side of ur religion wen u know...people of ur community doin dis..!!!jo galat hain wo galat hain...n u got to accept dis..!!
sameer surve may be true in his view. i do agree with his views. there are many brand politicians unlike BJP who has a great hand in doing all these non-sense.
All n all civilians are the final victims.and this is truely for diverting the mindset of people for the incidents happen some days before about the BJP and all other hindu supported parties.As ATS uncovering the brand faces of politicians they plan this and named it as Islamist.Think of it how closely Mr.Karke (ats Chief) has beed gunned downed.dont you think is a well game plan to remove thorns from the politician.
La Revue de l'Inde*magazine | Nov 10, 2008
When the Mahatma's cowards erupt in fury, it hurts. It isn't terror - Francois Gautier
Is there such a thing as 'Hindu terrorism', as the arrest of Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur for the recent Malegaon blasts may tend to prove? Well, I guess I was asked to write this column because I am one of that rare breed of foreign correspondents-a lover of Hindus! A born Frenchman, Catholic-educated and non-Hindu, I do hope I'll be given some credit for my opinions, which are not the product of my parents' ideas, my education or my atavism, but garnered from 25 years of reporting in South Asia (for *Le Journal de Geneve* and *Le Figaro*).
In the early 1980s, when I started freelancing in south India, doing photo features on kalaripayattu, the Ayyappa festival, or the Ayyanars, I slowly realised that the genius of this country lies in its Hindu ethos, in the true spirituality behind Hinduism. The average Hindu you meet in a million villages possesses this simple, innate spirituality and accepts your diversity, whether you are Christian or Muslim, Jain or Arab, French or Chinese. It is this Hinduness that makes the Indian Christian different from, say, a French Christian, or the Indian Muslim unlike a Saudi Muslim. I also learnt that Hindus not only believed that the divine could manifest itself at different times, under different names, using different scriptures (not to mention the wonderful avatar concept, the perfect answer to 21st century religious strife) but that they had also given refuge to persecuted minorities from across the world-Syrian Christians, Parsis, Jews, Armenians, and today, Tibetans. In 3,500 ears of existence, Hindus have never militarily invaded another country, never tried to impose their religion on others by force or induced conversions.
You cannot find anybody less fundamentalist than a Hindu in the world and it saddens me when I see the Indian and western press equating terrorist groups like SIMI, which blow up innocent civilians, with ordinary, angry Hindus who burn churches without killing anybody. We know also that most of these communal incidents often involve persons from the same groups-often Dalits and tribals-some of who have converted to Christianity and others not.
However reprehensible the destruction of Babri Masjid, no Muslim was killed in the process; compare this to the 'vengeance' bombings of 1993 in Bombay, which wiped out hundreds of innocents, mostly Hindus. Yet the Babri Masjid destruction is often described by journalists as the more horrible act of the two.
I have never been politically correct, but have always written what I have discovered while reporting. Let me then be straightforward about this so-called Hindu terror. Hindus, since the first Arab invasions, ha ve been at the receiving end of terrorism, whether it was by Timur, who killed 1,00,000 Hindus in a single day in 1399, or by the Portuguese Inquisition which crucified Brahmins in Goa. Today, Hindus are still being targeted: there were one million Hindus in the Kashmir valley in 1900; only a few hundred remain, the rest having fled in terror. Blasts after blasts have killed hundreds of innocent Hindus all over India in the last four years. Hindus, the overwhelming majority community of this country, are being made fun of, are despised, are deprived of the most basic facilities for one of their most sacred pilgrimages in Amarnath while their government heavily sponsors the Haj. They see their brothers and sisters converted to Christianity through inducements and financial traps, see a harmless 84-year-old swami and a sadhvi brutally murdered. Their gods are blasphemed.
So sometimes, e nough is enough. At some point, after years or even centuries of submitting like sheep to slaughter, Hindus-whom the Mahatma once gently called cowards-erupt in uncontrolled fury. And it hurts Mangalore, and Malegaon. It may happen again elsewhere. What should be understood is that this is a spontaneous revolution on the ground, by ordinary Hindus, without any planning from the political leadership. Therefore, the BJP, instead of acting embarrassed, should not disown those who choose other means to let their anguished voices be heard.
There are about a billion Hindus, one in every six persons on this planet. They form one of the most successful, law-abiding and integrated communities in the world today. Can you call them terrorists?
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(The writer is the editor-in-chief of the Paris-based *La Revue de l'Inde*.)
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come on. Such bloody acts keep continuing. Power mongers will always encourage. Religion is always a shield. Look this year there are major blasts this could be a well organized. If we are feeding franatic religious groups with political support ; these things are bound to happen. Of late, a political party wanted other states people not to live in bombay. I think he achieved his objective. We are in a democracy we have freedom of speech. Not to an extension that people could follow the so called leaders. We are all indian first and human after.
Anybody who questions that this is an Islamic phenomenon should read the Koran. The rest follows automatically. The exhortations to violence against unbelievers and idol worshippers are too numerous to mention.
There are some amusing comments about religion being a matter of "personal choice". With due respect, when such "choices" threaten life, property, peace and security, they cease to be a "personal" matter.
Laws in India should be made so strict that no one should dare. The terrorists who is caught should be punished in such a way that nobody will dare to do such things.
It can never be proven if Islamic terrorists are sufficiently removed from Islamic moderates. But someone who is not declared terrorist must be financing these guys, must be providing them space and infrastructure to plan their activities. That someone most likely is someone whom we call a moderate Muslim. Our instincts of decency and fairness do not and should not allow us to discriminate individual Muslims but would it be wrong for the civilized world to avoid large scale Islamic interests. For example, if you must take a vacation, avoid a Muslim country. If you have to fly, stay away from an Islamic airlines. When you have to buy a T-shirt, pick one made in a democratic country. When you must drive, drive less. If you have a dollar to invest, choose a non-Islamic country. I do not claim that it is the most fair thing to do but doing nothing is a lot more unfair to those whose blood you just saw flowing in the innocent corridors of Bombay.
to all people here who is blaming Islam,
i don't like people who blame the muslims!shame to u!Islam never supports who does terror.so why blame the Islam??u can blame those muslims who does not understand the proper lesson of islam!but i beg to u not to blame Islam!because in ur religions,it is said not to blame other religion.so keep ur religion in mind!!and think once before u blame other religions.because it will make ur religion low!!
I think now time has come or the youth to take charge because our old politician cant think only how can they take decision... as we all know, even the arrest terrorist also admit he is from pak.. so we are waiting for what. I know if we attack pak..tomorrow the so called Muslim Indian living here(called them minor) will tell its not good India has killed some innocent people there and they stared protest so again will face some problem... but do you guzs have any other options...
Indian politician is clearly at fault and some defector also contribute in this.
ATS, Mumbai Plice, NSG Commando,Military and True Indian's pay dearly that by death
I can only say that the men who rescued hapless hostages were 'god' in uniform. If we must , let us worship bravey , honesty and sincerity as our religion. All else is a big farce
I am apalled by some of the comments here. It feels like a bunch of people that commented know very little of what actually happened in Mumbai.
There are a lot of comments which involve Americans and US politics, but this has almost NOTHING to do with that! Very few foreigners were killed, maybe 10 according to the latestst responses. Meaning that the majority of victims are indian. So my heart goes out to all of the victims and Indians that are living with the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks.
I am also apalled by all of the anti-islam comments on here. I myself am Catholic but that does not mean that I hate all muslims. In fact, I do not hate muslims at all, some of my good friens are muslim. So people posting that islam is a problem and generalizing this to all muslims, what are you thinking? It is only a very small percentage of muslims that feel this way and are this radical and extreme in their ideas and actions! And anyone remember the crusades and the Inquisition? So its not like Catholics were much better.
Rather than blaming people, lets all try and help out and prevent this from happening again.
I am a Hindu, and I have many muslim friends many of them from Pakistan, and we shared dinner n lunch together, I believe them and I am from India.,,Truely I dont say they are bad and I trust them as my owm brothers n sisters,,,But I am asking my muslim friends that these people are killing innocent lives small kids, innocent old man who cant even chew his food properly and a husband who works on road wd no sandals in 46 C and his wife awaiting that he will bring money to buy some food, small 5 year old handicapped waiting for his widowed mom to bring food, what fault they had done, whom they have cheated , WE Hindus, muslims,christians have to come together and fight those who ruin people who not only know whwtere food will be ther at dinner ot not....
"It's about time we fought fire with fire and eliminated these people off the face of the earth. I'm a lifelong democrat, and Allah help me, I hate the thought of war as much as the next guy, but come on. The only thing these subhuman animals believe in is hatred and violence, and, brave souls that they are, they take it out on the innocent: surprise attacks on civilians. There's not a more cowardly, gutless act ever conceived, than the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
Wow, what a difference a couple of words make. Not nice reading is it?
The first step in justifying atrocities against a people is to first dehumanise them, referring to them as “subhuman” and “animals”. From there it is just a few short steps to the showers, and genocide. Do you really want to put your hand up and claim kinship with the Nazis?
Yes, terrorist attacks are a disgusting stain on humanity, but your reaction to them is a worrying indication that you are willing to sink to their level. I don’t care what the situation, nothing can ever justify genocide. Ever.
If you allow them to drag you down into evil, what really is there left to defend against? By relinquishing your own humanity, you have effectively surrendered to them. Of course you must fight against evil, but in doing so you must guard against becoming the thing you oppose.
if i as an indian kill any pakistani or so called ziyadi, as my answer to this disgraceful act, to get rid of my anger, my call toward my country, media and all other expert will say it wrong, even i also called it wrong methord for answering,
but ask someone who had lost his family member or near one.
are we indian r born to be killed by anyone. dont we have blood in our body.
how can we forget azad singh, bhagat singh, lala ji, bose ji and many other great fighter for country r all those people r wrong they also must had killed people.
one more thing media says keep calm, keep quite, make peace. " i want to ask
if some kill my countrymen without reason am i supposed to be like that.? "
please answer my question so i can sleep calmly.
India is an amazing country ......CNN should stop posting "war on Mumbai" on the CNN news channel...
Wow. What a bunch of assh*les. Why do people try to place blame where it doesn't fit. How about blaming the ones holding the guns, setting places on fire, taking hostages and killing at random. WTF is wrong with you people. My heart goes out to the people of Mumbai. God bless you all and God bless America for putting up with all this scrutiny.
Can anybody watch the threads in the right hand rist of terrorist in railway station.. it clarly indicates, he is not a muslim... so please stop blaming muslims or islam, they r terrorist and they dont have any religion.... if u are saying its muslims then let me ask u few questions, who did blast in jama mosque, hyderabad, who did in malegoan, who killed thousand of people in orrissa, gujarat... come on man... stop harressing muslims....
Enough is enough.....Live nd let live...
i want all the people of the world to come together and fight against terrorist(all pakistani). A war should be declared against pakistan to kill all bastards.
can u see the image of terror who has wrape in his right wrist a yellow & red rope., and this kind of rop only weair those who are from hindu comunity and if sec urity person naked the body and see weather they have KHATNA or not on his penny than our security and FBI can come from this conclusion. this is only for your kind info and to show my petroisum for my country.
Islamic terrorism !!!!!!!!!! what a bunch of cr--p. These people who fight in the name of Islam are brainwashed zombies who believe what they do is the right thing. When bombs blasts take place the bombs don't see religion.
I am a Hindu but i don't believe all Muslims are terrorists out to kill us Hindu Christians etc. The basic problem is we forget that this is not about religion but about an attack on our humanity and the only way to fight them as i believe is to all of us to come together and fight this evil peacefully
I also like to pray for the dead and also salute our brave officer of the police who lost their lives (14 officers)protecting the citizens of Mumbai me bieng one of them.
"India need a grate leader to lead our nation for grate changes at this time."
Come on people. I was really shocked to read all these comments. A lot of you are just blaming Islam and many of you are blaming Pakistan.
One thing we must remember is that, Terrorists have no religion nor do they have a nationality. They are people who kill civialians for their own twisted ideas.
Rather then divide into religious groups, and fight each other, we (everybody, every religion, country) should unite together and fight the terrorists and not become like them and fight among ourselves! As I am sure, if we divide up and start fighting between ourselves then the terrorists would have achieved what they really wanted.
Also in these attacks and in all other terrorist attacks were none of the casualties Muslim? They were, the Majority of Muslims do not stand for this kind of behaviour. So please do not make such assumptions!
I am Muslim from Mumbai. I sincerely condemn for what happened and by God our military should have caught those maniacs alive and stoned them to death in public any how what every our military did I am happy and really very happy. These are high time, we Muslim community must stand up and openly protest to what happened in Mumbai. All our big scholars and Muftis must stage public rally against this act and must pass a fatwa that any individual or organization involved is such an act will be considered out of Islam and their families will be blamed for not teaching their children the proper norms of Islam. Islam does not teach terrorism, but of course it also does not teach to be silent and repressive.
And for those people talking about individual like Bin qasim, Ghori, Ghaznavi and relating them with Islamic teaching then kindly note that I can provide you names of more than 100 kings and leaders who were not Muslims but they were as worse as Bin Qasim and Ghori.
Regarding U.S. I think if US want to be world police then she has to take blame of very thing or other wise change their foreign policies.
MN
Post 9/11 not a single incident is reported in the US coz the Govt is taking sufficient action & precaution.
Similarly in India the ruling Govt has to take definitive & strong actions instead of simply summoning various heads (ISI Chief) for discussions & verifications.
Such strong laws, examples have to be set that no person/group/country will ever lookup again to even think about terrorism in the whole of Asia.
If US can take action within Pak without their consent then India has more than enough power, intelligence to carryout covert operations within Pak.
Today, if u really wan to solve d problem of terrorism dn go for d root cause of it.
Frm vre dis terrorism is coming...???
Definitely frm sm Muslim Country'
Which Country..????
Either Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan
Afghanistan - cn't possible after American attack
Iraq- ---------do--------------
Pakistan- Definitely, undoubtbly it is '"pakistan- d gateway of terrorism"
I ask u America,,,,wn'll u attack Pakistan nw ???
bc'z Indian Politicians r not goin to do dis.
dy still believe in forgiveness....if one slaps on one side of ur face shw him d odr side....is dre philosophy....
today v need another Indra Gandhi.....who though scarificed her lyf....bt she took d brave step in Punjab n look today Punjab is free frm terrorism....
who'll bcm nxt Indra Gandhi..>??
Which politician will dare to sacrifice his lyf....n take sm really bold steps to end terrorism...???
Someone explain to me what exactly is the reason for this attack? What do they want? I'm confused on the reason behind this?
Was it really to make India weak economically all that?
WHY?
9/11
Madrid
London bombings
Bali bombings
Israel
Kashmir
What is the common denominator? It's not the Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists that are doing all this. It's the Muslims.
While not all Muslims in the world are terrorists, every terrorist is Muslim.
When attacks occur on their own people, they start crying and whining, but when Muslims attack non-Muslims and carry out terrorist violence, their silence is deafening.
The truth is, as many here have pointed out, that Islam instructs its believers to kill others. It is pretty much the only religion that does this. In Christianity, "thou shalt not kill", Judiasm is peaceful, Hindus don't even kill animals, Buddhists are ultra-nonviolent.
The time has come to rid the world of Islamic fundamentalism. Muhammad was a terrorist himself....
I am sick of Muslim apologists who stay quiet when these types of episodes occur.
If that jackass Muhammad was not born, the world would be a better place. And if there was no partition in 1947, the world would never have faced this much terrorism.
India-U.S.-Israel: United We Stand
GO TO HELL WITH YOUR AUDACITY
WE INDIANS WILL NEVER BE AFRAID
WE DONT CARE WHO THE HELL U TERRORISTS ARE
YOUR ALLAH WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU.
REASON BEHIND THIS IS POLITICS in INDIA ,
Who seperate MUSLIM,HINDU
All islamic countries always denies any link with terrorism. But it is a fact that, its origin is islamic countries. If they condemn the terror attack then why they are giving sheds to terrorist. In fact its foolish to say islam never teach any terrorism. I think what islam teach is whole world can see. so better not to comment on it.
terrorist has a religion and thats islam.
I think only two ways are there to solve the terror problem.
1. Destroy all islamic countries. or
2. Ban the entry of any one from these countries.
later is i think will be accepted, and i too will support this option.
third way can be increase in security but its of no use that we can say from experience.
i feel that the indian govt should take immediately action about this terroist attacks and they should stop entering Pakistani.
These pictures are really shocking. This unfortunate incident is an eyeopener that that still after the recent attacks earlier, politicians have not taken pains in securing Mumbai, which is THE business hub of India. Such high priority issues are choked down by red tapism. Moreover politicians tend to create artificial nonsense commotions to take mine, yours, our minds off the real burning issue. Let this be a painful eyeopener to all the politicians who have taken a part of India, or for that matter, any part of India taken for granted as per their whims and fancies.
I proudly salute all the concerned police, soldiers who did their best to ensure that the casualities are reduced to the minimum, putting their life in danger. I also bow and am humbled by the sacrifice of life given by our Indian soldiers, IG Karkare, Hav. Jagdish, & Maj. Unnikrishnan.
A humble request to all the politicians... Let their sacrifice not go in vain.......
In our area, we have lot of poverty all people hungry they need food but stupid terrorist they are giving us bullet shot.
When others say that Islam should be held responsible for the Mumbai Fury, I would think earlier that it is not a rational thought, but somewhere now I believe to a certatin extent that it is. To those who have been up-to-date with the headlines of the terrrorism stories in UK, would try and remember Reilly-the 'Christian converted to Islam' terrorist who walked in a family restaurant with a bunch of nails and explosives to explode the self made bomb in the loo and ultimately ended up blowing himself. Is it not evidence enough. See this; http://jihadwatch.org/archives/023105.php
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/I_want_to_live_Captured_terrorist_Azam/articleshow/3772298.cms
The Captured terrorist wants to LIVE.
Please donot kill him & take pity on him. We should chop off both his hands, both legs & his tongue then should allow him to live.
Muslim, by definition, means terrorists. The definition I create comes from historical accounts. The violence attached to this group predates my life, your life, your momma's life and your momma's momma's life. The Muslims took Mecca by force. Long ago, they took northwestern parts of India by force, when India was weak and torn from war. It goes back further: Abraham was told that the seed of Ishmael would be a mighty nation, but a 'wild donkey' of a nation.
If there was a god - any god - he, she or it would be deeply ashamed by this and other atrocities perpetrated daily throughout this world. The sooner we get rid of religion the sooner humans will learn to live together in peace. You never hear of an atheist harming anyone in the name of their non-belief. Atheism is the next evolutionary step for humans in the quest for higher understanding and tolerance.
as John Lennon said :
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
My sympathies to the families and my wishes for recovery to the injured. Steve #187, you have it right. Also: The west has too many supposed "Allies" show harbor and supports these fanatic terrorists, but hide behind saying "it's not us!". It's time to punish incitement - blow up their places of gathering places - aboard and even at home! Apologists - pick a side and get out of the way!
it's true, I'm convinced. Most people aren't actually entitled to an opinion.
Someone explain to me what exactly is the reason for this attack? What do they want? I'm confused on the reason behind this?
Was it really to make India weak economically all that?
WHY?
HEART FELT CONDOLENCES FOR THE MARTYRS OF NATION. I WANT ALL THE CORRUPT & COMMUNAL POLITICIANS SHOULD BE ERADICATED TO WIN THE WAR ON TERROR.
Where is the usual brigade of people like Shabana Azmi,Javed Akhtar,Teesta Setalvad and others?What do they have to say now?Are they very busy trying to clear the name of Islam for the umpteenth time now?
My dear friends,lets face the fact once again--Islam just cannot reside in peace with any other religion in the world.Lets stop fooling ourselves time and time again.The other `normal` Muslims know this very well,but they have created sort of a shield around themselves to ward off all religious attacks(verbal) of any kind.Sad.
As for our great PM and defense minister,I shall send sarees and bangles for you.
whomso ever have done it,i ugre government to aaply one more tax that should be a 'safety tax' by applying which the this taqx collected from us will be awarded to the informers who has the real information about such incedences. the money which government always offer for casualties should also be transfer to the intelegence beuro.
ASK ANY ONE OF THE INDIVISUAL IN THE COUNTRY AS HOW RESPECTFUL THEIR INDIVISUAL ATTITUDE TOWARDS ANY INDIAN POLITICIAN.
Its the terrible state of affairs and the emotional tranquility of those few who are mislead, and are conceived to blame someone else for their suffering which is responsible for these extremist activities...
Blaming a race or a country isnt justified as such. Those of you who contradict this, ask yourself once again. Is every muslim or every pakistan celebrating the present bloodshed. I ,for one am most certain that they are not. Its high time people realise that the ideals one stands for and is willing to die for, do not warrant killing for the same..
There is enmity between India and Pakistan and also between Hindus and Muslims and there have been Pak sponsored terror strikes in India before,but this one is not.This is different..This was a CIA and Mossad funded operation to scuttle the Iran-Pakistan-India oil pipeline.The Pakistani Foreign Minsiter was in India and the talks to finalize the pipeline deal was in the final stage.No unknown terrorist group operating from caves will have such ammunition,planning and funding.Predictably the Indian hardliners have started talking about teaching a lesson to Pakistan and the pipeline talks are abandoned.We are not fools.
India must stand up to its enemies,we are tired of Pakistan ruining our peace. Let us stop all relationswith Pak & our criketeers must boycott playing with them. They have been black mark in ourlife since1947 . India must stop looking for bilateral relations & black out Pak from our vocabulary. Anhiliate their ISI and send forces to destroy them. It is much better than seeing innocent lives being sacrificed in the name of terrorism
First of all my sincere condolences to all the people/guests of hotels/staff, NSG, Navy, Commandos, and Mumbai Police who have died in this terrible Terrorist incident in Mumbai.
Secondly, my family’s, entire Bangalore City, and my salutes to the heroes of NSG, Navy, Commandos, entire Mumbai Police Force, and Hotel Staff who risked their lives in saving so many lives in this terrible Terrorist Act in Mumbai.
My family and I have been following the entire events of the inhuman terrorist acts conducted in Mumbai for the past three days. We haven’t slept ourselves here in Bangalore and we had been glued to our television set watching continuously and following every second of the news reported from news channels. We are really really shocked about this entire incident and we are also so so angry with the entire system of our country where such an inhuman and heinous act could have been avoided, but nothing or no precautions had been taken.
It is even more shocking that it took nearly four days to close the entire operations of this terrorist attack in Mumbai.
I have so many questions where I am so shocked, confused, angry, and sad.
1. First of all my question is how in the name of god did so many terrorists managed to get past our country’s waters and landed on our INDIAN SOIL? What was the Coast Guard and Navy doing when they were sailing all the way from Karachi to Porbandar to Mumbai port?
2. When these terrorists landed at Gateway of India, when some of the locals saw them, why didn’t ANYONE or SOMEONE report to the police or concerned authorities that some suspicious people landed in front of Taj.
3. What were the Hotel Officials and Hotel Security doing when the terrorists booked rooms and were stocking explosives in the rooms. Were there no bomb detectors or arms detectors erected at the entrances. How come the hotel security staff never got a clue or at least a hint that someone looked suspicious?
4. When the terrorists bought mutton for worth of 50,000/- at a local market, what was the shopkeeper doing? Why didn’t he feel suspicious? He never got a clue that in his entire lifetime that someone had suddenly bought something for worth of 50,000/-? Was he just happy that he made business worth that much money?
5. When the terrorists were recorded on CCTV, were there no people monitoring those CCTV screens? What were the people who were monitoring or supposed to monitor those screens from the cameras doing at the time when the terrorists appeared on the CCTV?
6. When terrorist started to open fire at VT station and started to move towards Cama hospital, there must have been thousands of civilians there with their usual daily chores, was it too much to ask that someone or anyone could have tried to confront just two terrorists though the terrorists had ammunition and other sophisticated arms?
7. When the police jeep was kidnapped and driven, why the state’s security not alerted and why did it take so long to reach the spots and take control of the situation.
8. Why were there not proper facilities given to our Mumabi Police like bulletproof jackets, sophisticated weapons like what the terrorists were carrying, immediate communication gadgets or equipment?
9. Now a very very important question. When the captured terrorist declared that they had satellite images of the hotel and they knew completely about the surroundings, entries and exits of the hotels, and many more things that we could possibly imagine; why didn’t the hotel officials or even the Tatas didn’t even bother to provide a map of the hotel or help the Commandos, NSG, Navy, and the Police that how they are supposed to go about inside the Taj Hotel. When the terrorists have so much information and even SATELLITE IMAGES, we couldn’t provide a simple guiding map of the Taj Hotel, it is really really shocking.
10. When Taj’s GM’s family was trapped in fire, why did it take nearly 3 hours for the Fire Brigade to get there? Why was there no other alternate thought or option to rescue his wife and children?
11. The terrorists had so much ammunition and grenades and so on, that means someone inside the city was involved in providing them with all these devastating equipment. It is definitely not possible for the terrorists to carry all that ammunition and equipment all the way from Karachi to Porbandar to Mumbai and into the Taj, it is definitely definitely not possible. So, someone or a group here in Mumbai is involved in providing them and it is possible that the Terrorist Information and Supplying Group are still in Mumbai and have been following all these inhuman events conducted.
12. I want to ask where is Raj Thakrey now? What is he doing? What are his comments now? Can he come to the media and to the terrorist hit spots and comment that so and so person is a North Indian and so and so person is South Indian? Is he just sitting in his residence and sipping coffee or tea and enjoying the whole event happening in Mumbai? WHERE THE HELL IS HE????
13. What the hell is wrong with our POLITICIANS??!!! I feel that all these politicians should be sent out of our country. They only know to talk rubbish and create problems for our country, and ignite fire of hate between our own country people. Since Mumbai bomb blasts, what has the governments, whether it is Congress or the BJP done to protect our country? Haven’t these politicians learnt anything all these years? These politicians are even more inhuman than the terrorists.
14. It is also shocking that when Maj. Sandeep Unnikrishnan’s body was brought to Bangalore and cremation procedures are carried out, where was the CM of Bangalore. Did he not have the courtesy to come down and salute the heroe and give his condolences and show some moral support to the family. WHERE THE HELL IS HE??!!!
Lastly, now what is our Indian Government going to do about PAKISTAN? Are they going to have hoards of meetings and meetings? Keep talking all over the place and do nothing? Blame each other and let time pass and somehow make people forget of these past 3 days of inhuman events in Mumbai?
The entire WORLD knows that every terrorist act is conducted, funded, trained, etc, from PAKISTAN. The entire WORLD knows that all the terrorists are holed up in PAKISTAN. The entire WORLD knows that PAKISTAN, the NATION ITSELF is involved in training all these terrorists. What is our INDIAN GOVERNMENT AND THE WORLD going to do about PAKISTAN???!!!
In conclusion, I really really really think it is TIME to DECLARE WAR AGAINST PAKISTAN AND DESTROY THAT TERRORIST COUNTRY.
> Why do they all wear sandals?
Mainly because of the weather. Hot and humid. Makes sense to let your feet breathe.
When you are in a jungle you know you can be attacked by wild beasts from anywhere, you take precaution and build a ring of fire surrounding yourself... why should it be different in this case...
Before blaming muslims or pakistan, lets ask what has the government done so far in terms of 'taking terrorism seriously'? The casual statements made by the political leaders are just to fill airtime
Economic inequality will drive people to desperation - as there are 1 in a billion saints, there are 1 in a billion evil minded power hungry people, who manipulate other people in the name of religion. in past centuries we had seen people from different religions, now it mainly happens to be muslims. But the point is it is the politicians who are either remaining blind to it or maybe indirectly encouraging it, once again, to ensure at least one part of their vote banks become loyal to them.
So what should we do... well at a personal level i dont have any answer. at the country level, India should really take up terrorism as a serious threat, increase spending on security measures, counterterrorism tactics, policies for coordinating counter attacks. I dont think India lacks the resources or the budget, the only thing lacking is political will.
And yes, media needs to be responsible. How can they have background music while showing the blood stain floors, and other pictures/videos of terror? Irresponsible reporting is the worst thing that can turn you suspicious about the most innocent and peace-loving neighbour not practicing your religion the 'next terrorist' in the making. apart from already killing so many innocent people, that would be the biggest success of the evil masterminds behind such attacks.
they are not muslims , they can be extremist hindus , jews , christians.
200. you're pathetic. you were only a tool for the worst act of humanity. Comments such us yours only add fuel to the fire. If it's like you say "their cause" then let them be, why sticking your nose on that?
I feel sorry for you
JAI HIND. JAI MATA RAM. SHANTI OM SHANTI. BHARAT ZINDABAD.
I am amuslim from Jordan and i was honored to stay in India for about 9 years.I had been at Taj and drank tea and ate there so many times. When i saw burning i felt that my flesh is burning. I cursed all these pigs, sons of satan and dakos. I have read almost all the comments here, unfortunately there was a good percentage of those who blame Islam and all muslims. I will not discuss alot, but did any one mentiond the Great empire of Britain who captured and colonized India for tens of decades ????? were British army who looted India, killed her beloved sons, led by a muslim general???? our memory is very short, we forget that the killer of The Great Leader Mahatma Ghandi was a pukka hindu of RSS ??? We have forgetten that Britain is the creator of Pakistan not to give Muslims of India a seperate country rather than maintaing it's own benefits on the basis of divide and rule. Britishers had left the issue of Kashmir just to engege these two countries (after the divission) in wars and lookforward the prosperity of their own people. Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Isa'i ya kuch be ho yaad raklo yeh zameen hamra sub kilyeh hain, hum log zaroor satt main jina hai sat main marna chahe tomara bagwan allah ram budha ya isa hum sub insan hai, Dharam ka batt chordo or insaniyyat apne apko deko. I want to say that terrorists has no religion and these killers do not represent neither muslims nor isalam. Akhri bat BASS bahot Hogaya. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Land is for all and relegion is for God only and the relegion is a very personal matter between the sole the gode it worships. ThiNK HUMANLY AWAY FROM RELIGION. MY deepest condolences for the people of India and may all GODS curse those evils. JAI HIND
I have been watching the television for the past three days - it
appears to me that there must be a better way to hole out the
terrorists - CANT WE USE SOME SORT OF AN ODOURLESS COLOURLESS SLEEPING
GAS - which can affect the people for 8-10 hours and induces them to
sleep. With such a gas people will sleep and the commandos can easily
carry out their operations wearing masks.
F*ck the terriost!
Here, "truth teller", can you or the Guardian provide the name of that "Sikh doctor"? Or will someone plead the ghost of possible retribution over 20 years later? Have your researches revealed why "Indian Army stormed the Golden Temple despite knowing it was a Sikh holy day"?
190.@57 Untrue. Tragically the Indian Army stormed the Golden Temple despite knowing it was a Sikh holy day and there would be thousands of innocent pilgrims and visitors. It became an indiscriminate massacre. There were several reports of barbaric acts by the army. The Guardian on 13/6/84 reported the following:
"A Sikh doctor drafted from the Government hospital to Jullunder to conduct post mortem examinations said that he had seen the bodies of two Sikhs who had been shot at point blank range, their hands tied behind their backs with their turbans. His colleagues had reported others, some of whom had been machine-gunned. This doctor headed a team that conducted 400 examinations. He said that most bodies were riddled with bullets and bore bomb wounds. He said, "It was a virtual massacre. A large number of women, children and pilgrims were gunned down."
The same doctor told journalists that bodies of victims were brought to the mortuary by police in municipal refuse lorries. (The Times of 13/6/84 and the Indian Express of 18/6/84) reported that of the 400 bodies, 100 were women and between 15-20 were children under five. One was a two-month-old baby.
Let's hope the communities stay united and that there are no anti-muslim riots as there were anti-sikh riots in 1984. Don't listen to the hate-mongers. Peace.
Posted by truth teller November 28, 08 07:26 PM
Salute to our armed forces, NSG commandoes, Police jawans and other security agencies for putting their life at stake so that we can live peacefully. They are our heroes. May God grant them long life and happiness. I bow my head with gratitude to our forces and experess my heart felt condolences to all those brave hearts who lost their lives for us. They will always be rembered for their valour. My tearful farewell to them and I pray to God that He should give courage to their families to face the loss due to the supreme sacrifice by their dearest of dears.,
Fix your Religion or we will fix it for you.
our paki brothers are expert at acting so innocent after each attack - wonder howcome lollywood hasn't become bigger than bollywood cuz these guys are great actors.
The world knows that Pakistan has promoted extremism as state policy right from Zia ul haq's time - this to bleed india in kashmir and the russians in afghanistan. the ISI is known to be a very dangerous agency which is hand n glove with all those terrorist groups and this was recently conveyed in clear terms by the CIA to the Pakistan Govt.
Well if you'll are so much against terrorism then how come the chief of LET walk's about freely in your respected country making inflammatory speeches? howcome you'll are so hospitable to Dawood who is a royal guest of the ISI? why don't you guys put these guys behind bars?
and why is is that whereever in the world there is a terrorist attack there is some connection or the other to Pakistan? wonder why such a saintly state is blamed so often:)
my dear friends there is never smoke without fire and it is pretty clear to the world now that Pakistan is the epicenter of world terrorism - hard fact but very true and about time you nice people of pakistan put pressure on yr Govt to stop state sponsored terrorism and rein in the ISI!
i beleive it will be in both yr and our interest if your country rather concentrated on improving your economy, education system etc.. cuz as of now all we see is yr president constantly on the move with a begging bowl to UAE, Saudi, China or the US and when you guys get some money it is again channelized for all the wrong purposes. Time to introspect my Pakistani friends and just living in constant denial will not get you'll anywhere.
Christianity has more blood on its hands then Islam. You can't blame an entire religion for the actions of some radicals. Look at all the crazy bible bangers out there who blow up abortion clinics.
IMO the world would be a better place if everyone was atheist or Buddhist. At least the extremists don't go around killing people.
To all the folk screaming "these terrorists are not muslim" and "islam does not condone violence against the innocent", let me riddle you this ... does islam not consider all non-muslims guilty by default as they have not accepted Allah and the Quran? It is written in the Quran! SO ... these muslims who indiscriminately shot and killed scores of unarmed - and in a civilized definition - innoncent civilians - were the truest warriors of Islam - were they not? They followed the book (Quran) to exact Allah's vengence on the kaffirs - aka - non-Muslims. They methodically killed Christians, Hindus and Jews - while letting those who they knew were muslims go. See - they did not harm the innocent :).
Radical islam is a malaise that needs to be eradicated - methodically.
James
I watch them because out of all the terrorist attacks in the last 40 years
some 13,000 (just the reported ones)
.5% by so called christians (but they arent)
.5% by so called ulta orthadox jews (and they atrent either)
So james by your reckoning in the last 40 years there have only been 65 reported cases of chritians involved in terrorist attacks? Have you an overdeveloped sense of Irony
Posted by james
They are us and we are them; we're all red on the inside, you know?
Realist,
What you don't realize is that we are bankrupting our self's chasing these people. That's really the only way they can take use down. They don't need to destroy our country with a bomb to destroy our way a life. They just need to bankrupt us financially and morally and guess what? Unfortunately because no politicians was intelligent enough to see it from the start, they are getting away with it.
There is no us and them. The world has gotten too small and we have created weapons that are too destructive for us to frame the problems, which are all of ours to share, in such simple ways.
The natural reaction expressed in so many postings is one of fear, anger, and retaliation. It would be convenient to target a nation, or a religion, or anything you can easily label. That's them, this is us. There is comfort to be found in such simplifications because simple problems can be solved with direct force and we have what seems to be a limitless ability to exert direct force. Some of you make it seem that if I could just show you which ten million, or one hundred million men, women and children to kill, that you could solve this problem once, and for all time.
Please find the humanity to realize this would not a viable solution.
Please find the wisdom to realize there is no such solution to the problem of terrorism.
And to those of any nationality or religion that would teach hatred and violence to children, or preach it from your media pulpits to warp men's minds in such a way that they become capable of perpetrating such terrible crimes- please find any reason to realize that the stakes are much too high for your hate.
We live in an age where we have the technology to connect with and affect the lives of people anywhere on the planet. It is a shame to discover that we do not yet have the humanity to match it.
First thing is there is no good educational system in these so called islamic countries. Whatever is ther it is missguidin the poor young ppl.
Terrorist are terrorists. We cannot categorize it as Islamist, Christian, Hindu or any other. Its time every body should know that no Muslim supports any form of terrorism and believes that people behind it should be given harshest punishment. At this sensitive time every body should be united to fight against terrorism rather then blaming any particular religion.
since there were more than 20 persons involved in this attack, why the only one face captured by every cameras? the images published from different sources, however the person is look same, his different activities. Anybody got any idea?
not every muslim is a terrorist... but every terriorist is a muslim. many of them have made ironical statements. " war for peace" it was the slogan during the iraq war. how many time we are going to fight. and fight for what??????.
who said that we are humans , we are animals ( and we believe in the theory of survival of the fittest). urge to be the most powerful , has made humans crippled and has showed the devilish characters, through-out centuries in any part of the world. throught the world as history says many wars were fought, leaving behind happiness for some and grief to some.
india has its own history of fighting wars, ruthlessely killing the human race.
Gandhiji made a revolution in the way war can be fought without blood shed ( satyagraha). but still he was not able to convience some societies of the world.
(it cannot be war or satyagraha which can end this. it can be only an natures warth that can solve our problems......
i have seriously pray to nature " let there be a meteorite of the right size and fall down at the right place and destory all the power craving people on this earth."
let there be a new begining!
The Logic war on Terror has Failed completely, USA Invaded IRAQ under this banner!!! But a Disaster, War On Terror can only be Won when the Issues that give excuse to groups for recruiting youth for such missions.. are solved, The Occupation of Palestine, The Iraq Invasion, The attrocities in Kashmir.. Solve it & you Dont Have any terrorisim. This is a Simple Logic when you BOMB & kill someones family You dont Expect a Flower buques in Retaliation. We shouldnt relate such incidents with religion...No religion Encourages Such acts of Killing Innocent people !!! Our full Condolences to the Families who lost their Loved Ones in Mumbai Attacks.
All i want to say is we will fight and kill every last man who try's to attack my motherland......we have a army,navy,airforce equal to 15 million soilders.....second only to china....so come pakis one and all and we will reteach you the lesson we taught you in 1947,1965,1971,1999and today.......civilizations,rulers,britishraj came and went but this majestic country called INDIA.....well live fore ever..JAI HIND......VANDE MAATARAM............PAKISTAN MURDABAD...HAI HAI HAI
islamic radicalism is not new to india, through out history the hindu culture has seen disruptions of universities, temples and other political strong holds. the islam claims to have so many rules safe guarding the sanctity of women, india has suffered a lot at the hands of muslims, where rape was used as a method of mass terrorism through out history. so all the muslims should stop hiding behind their pious veils, and admit to their diabolic plans of world dominion. attack on hindus is attrocious, in last four thousands years of history, never has the hindu culture invaded any other country to propagate our beliefs. it time all muslims of india need to be kicked out.
appalling!
The terrorist with a gun shown in the picture is clearly wearing threads on his right hand wrist - clearly showing him from hindu sect. This game of killings and creating terror does not have any religion in particular. Instead of blaming blindly islam and muslims is not justified.
This terrorist attack in mumbai is the worst the country has seen so far.This is the time that our system and all the political establishments should wake up and take proper actions to ensure the safety and security of india and it's citizens so that the sacrifice made by our brave soldiers and policemen do not go in vain.
this is NOT about religion... i agree with one of the previous comments psted here ... this is just about FANATICISM... extremism... religion in itself can never be a bad thing.
what has happened in mumbai is the work of extremists . im not a muslim...but i could NEVER condemn the entire society for the horrible ghastly incident that has taken place in mumbai. doing so would be ridiculous... its like giving in to the mass hysteria that these so called terrorists are trying to create. we must stay united . india as a nation should stand together as one against these miscreants. we must not make this about north india versus south india.. or the north east versus west... india versus the world ... its high time we pressure our government into uniting us .... and not play the blame game as has been happening in the past.. trying to flush out terrorists by doing what the US did after 9/11 will just result in them coming back with double the force... we will create sitting ducks of ourselves. we need to understand why there is so much unrest amongst these 'extremists' ... why do they feel that killing innocents is justified?? how can they possibly justify such a ghastly act of violence ?
Please everybody don not get confused with what you are seeing but its difficult to digest what is being aired. Its all a big false..
Congratulate BJP that it has been successful in its grand plans...Yes now they have finished Hemant Karkare the ATS chief..and from now onwards whoever comes in between their creating a so called' Hindu Rashtra ' , will have to submit his/her self to death.
When the ATS guy was doing his job sincerely and professionally and honestly, he was submitted to death. Why?...
Because all their past deeds had come clear in front of the people of India. Malegoan Blasts, Jalna Blasts, Nanded, Parbhani, Thane, Indore, Kerala, and many more places were commited by these marauders...
We have now come to know that Sadhvi Pragya Thakur and Lt. Col. Purohit joined hands and how they used the Army to make successful their plans and put a shame to our nation.And this has been happening for a long time..
Now some eye- openers.
If somebody has observed the pics of the terrorists that Mr. Sebastian D'Souza have taken, then one of the pic shows a man whose name govt. agencies say is Azam. If u have closely looked at the pic, then it u also see that the man is wearing yellow thread (which is of course Muslims never wear). And there is another pic. again by Mumbai Mirror photographer in which we see a yellow thread worn by another terrorist......What say???
Now, I put some more facts in front of us...
The vehicle in which 3 top officers including Hemant Karkare were present was ambushed..remember he was ambushed..how do the people who killed them knew that he was coming that way...they had been waiting from him..someone really is involved in ATS chief murder...
Im so sad about what happened in India.This country in not well known for getting sides in other countrys war.They should leave these people in peace alone.
This attack had an Indian component.Somebody in the Muslim community in India knew what was going on and this was going to happen.It would be right if the Muslim community themselves handed over these people or else the security agencies in India should have the right to mass up the muslims in India and investigate.
India has not particpiated in the Afghan war,iraqi war .This has not deterred the Muslims to attack India.So Indians should not think too much about Human Rights when they retaliate because the terroists have showm time and again that dead have no rights.
Islam doesnt allow even 0.1 percent of killing the innocent people, i want to ask one simple question to everybody, does a bullet or bomb or any kind of weapon know who is the victim? the answer is no, so please do pass such a comments which could creat more proble. This is all beacuse of dirty POLITICS.
This is in response to post no. 181 by sameer surve, brother you have hit the bulls eye. when I heard the night when ATS chief Mr. Karkare was eleminated along with some of the upright and honest officers of mumbai police, i knew something sinister is on. The way these officers were eleminated in one go is something to be noted, unfortunately the investigative agencies and politicians have their guns already pointed on directions that benefit their vested agendas and we common people of this great country will never be able to get the real story or capture the real perpeterators of this henious crime against humanity. This crime is above religion, race and creed and we as human beings must rise and fight together to uearth the nefarious designs of the anti-social and anti-national elements and organisations such RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal and BJP who are hell bent on destroying our very ethos on which our freedom fighters such as Gandhi have tirelessly fought to establish this great nation.
Why communities are forgetting one thing.Religions are made not for violence but for for Peace in humanity.Is there any religion has taught about violence.?These militants have forgotten basic principals of religion. ....being a hardcore religion is not in killing other but in respecting.GOD is one then why all this? GOD will not excuse these killers.All they will be burning in hell.It is very sad humanity is under threat not from alliens but from our own brothers who has missed their path.
First of all, my condolences to the victims and families of innocent people who lost their lives during this madness.
Secondly, I have read the comments from people and Islam-bashing has started in full swing. So very typical of people who are ignorant. What evidence do you have?? How sure are you that your Mumbai Godfathers (shiva sena) are not involved? IF you look carefully at the picture of the terrorist holding the gun his right wrist he is wearing an orange color thread -- which only Hindus wear. Now, I am not saying terrorist were hindus, mulsiam or etc but before any evidence is published stop acting in a brash manner and spread hatred. People have quoted Quran out of context -- which is so sad . I can quote hundreds of references from the Bible and other religious books which are far more violent. But again I am not a hypocrite.
Terrorism is about terror more than it is about casualties. I hope the world keeps that in mind as they respond. If you take away your most fundamental rights like America did, you have let them win. Do not sacrifice your nation's dignity to the people whose acts were designed not for mass casualties, but to take it away from you.
America obliterated the things that made it America in response to 9/11 (like that we respected human rights and needed probable cause to spy on people). Let us hope India doesn't make the same mistake.
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Every generation sees a form of blood-crazed madness grip the world.
We've had two world wars and we know that war is just hell on earth.
Now is not the time to indulge in this madness again. Don't rise to the bait.
That's exactly what these terrorists want. They thrive on chaos and mayhem.
This incident was massive in scale - therefore, there are many on the streets
and back alleys who know something about the perpetrators. It's a matter for
the police. Criminals are just criminals. Who cares what their reasons are?
They represent nothing but their own evil and madness. The worst thing India
can do is to treat them as 'legitimate' warriors and start blaming surrounding countries.
time to take action...get all the terrorist mf**rs out of their foxholes in pakistan..get them howewer you can..use whatever weapons necessary..if the f*ing paki govt can't do it topple it and do it yourself..go India go!
If you want to know the reason behind the MUSLIM response, read about AL TAQYA, AL TAQIYYA etc from as many sources as possible.
just because of few muslims the whole community have to face problems.why dont india take a serious actions against this?oh i get it,only when these politicians will get out.raj thakre says tht mumbai is mine and this,that.now when mumbai needs him where has he gone?he's a coward and dont deserve his seat.but dont forget tht he has come to this stage jus bcoz of us.if only v,the youths will take some action against this.
It's quite evident these terrorists are Islamic radicals. But hey, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism (yes, dont be surprised, wars have been fought in its name too, lots of bloodshed ) whatever.... you people are debating monstrosities of equal measure. Religion is truly the opium of the masses. Very easy for fundamentalism to creep in when young 'uns are schooled to be gullible morons all their lives. Look at the American bible belt for more proof. And Sarah Palin. Hey, don' t get me wrong here, atheistic Communism killed whole cultures too, but only because it supplanted religion and assumed all its worst aspects. As did Nazism.
Let all priests be and so-called Holy or Wise men be, Listen to clear rational thought, the best of human civilisation. Liberalism and religion can never completely go together. We're doomed to keep repeating all this if we never get over the God delusion. Islam especially. It's never had a Reformation of sorts and most of its adherents live in abject poverty and illiteracy. Militant Hinduism in India exploits the same conditions.
As one historian wrote about the Crusades, the two deadliest words in Human history: God's Will
ISLAM IS INDEED RELIGION OF PEACE, KILLING IS BIGGEST SIN IN ISLAM, I APPEAL ALL MUSLIMS TO JOiN HANDS AND LETS FIGHT THIS UGLY FACE OF TERRORISM , WHICH IS GIVIG BAD NAME TO ISLAM AND MUSLIMS IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE OF OTHER BELLIEF.
SAY ALLAHU AKBAR AND COME OUT ON STREETS TO FIGHT THIS COWARD TERROISTS , KILLING THIS TERROSIT IS REAL JIHAD , I APPEAL ALL MUSLIMS BRETHREN LETS US COME OUT AND FIGHT TERRORISM ON IST FACE. nd
I do not understand, we are in the 21st century where we have become so much advanced in technology and there are tracking systems like GPS available to us. Wont we still know the hide-outs of the terrorists, where they are trained, where pre-terrorists are provoked to be terrorists, etc.? I am not ready to believe that the Govt. or the people who are directly or indirectly linked to the Govt would be ignorant of such details.
To conclude this, whatever happened cannot be recovered, so if anyone who is reading this has the power or can reach someone who possess the power to act against this, then plz plz plz STOP THIS ... END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL. Show the terrorists what your real capability is. Be united, be courageous, be loyal to humanity and God will give you all the power.
May the lost souls rest in peace.
I request my brave commandos to kill that militant in the worst and most painful way. Make a video of it so that other living militanats can see and really know what and how dreadful can happen to them. In history INdia helped some country and these bastards are creeping up forgetting what good India did to them. Kill that bastard militant becuase if he is left at mercy then he is bastard enough to forget it and plan attack again.
I pray for well being for those are injured and pay homage to the victims of Death, may God bless their holy soul and their family members.
We salute to the Martyrs, who bravely faught to save hundreds of life, let pray for them.
Lets stand still and to do every thing to prevent terriosm so that this situation will not happen in future
the muslim children killed directly from their mothers' womb, muslim women raped and burned to death, muslim men torn into parts, almost two thousands of them in gujrat . shooo bad terrroist muslims. 2000 muslim burned maimed raped to death in gujrat and no one from the humamkind angry at this truly detestable mumbai incident bothered the kind of protest and hatred against the criminals at that time. terrorists are terrorists, whichever religion they belong this includes those who killed a million civilians in vietnam, everone, so lets hate terror for it is terror
I hear some say 'They want their voices heard'
Those who want their voices heard do not take Ak 47s and kill innocents. There are 200 civilized ways of getting your voice heard. News papers, magazines, Books, movies, poems, songs, web sites , youtube , blogs, and of course digg comments. So think what are you hearing over the gunfire and remorseless killings of innocents.
I hear some say it is the 'have nots killing the ones who have, the exploited killing the exploiters'
Well the money spent on this operation would have bought each one of those terrorists a nice apartment in bombay. An AK 57 costs at least $500. You can start a business with that money in India or Pakistan. If you they are so worried about the poor and have nots than why don't they spend their money on building schools, hospitals why can't they micro-finance small business. If someone does not have a fish and you don't want to teach fishing at least don't give him a gun.
Nothing we brought into this world when we born. Nothing we will bring back after our death. LOVE all and SERVE all. May god bless all of us.
LOVE has no religion.
@251 Sure all muslims are not bad, but why is it that most of these attacks are carried out by islamic terrorists?? Why dont we see hindu or christian or buddhists doing such things?? The Q demands an answer!!! Why dont we see any islamic country or organisation strongly condeming such attacks. Their defeaning silence is certainly not endearing them to anyone and is causing people to get more suspicious...227 well said, things will start changing for the better if good muslims stand up and make themselves heard...........but unfortunately that isn't happening yet and as long as that doesn't happen all of them will need to share in this guilt and blame and must be held accountable.
@ comment no. 169.. we are in no way asking for US help..
If u would have known a anything about your country's politics in Asia you would have known that's the last place where we expect help from... fighting a war for oil on a foreign doesn't make it the anti-terrorist leaders...
in india thousands die every year because of terrorism.. and with the money put in defense each year we know we can tackle these terrorists..We are just waiting for our sleeping politicians to wake up and go something .
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH....TIME AND AGAIN , WEAK GOVERNMENTS HAVE FAILED. INDIA IS GRATEFUL TO ITS WELL-TRAINED SOLDIERS.. BEING DEFEATED , ISLAMIST TERRORISTS MAY CHANGE TACTICS....CHANGING FACES IT WILL APPEAR IN ANOTHER DISGUISE..JUST THINK AND START A DRIVE AGAINST ANYTHING WHICH IS AGAINST HUMANITY
Hell with the government and hell with the corrupt ministers they should be ashamed of all this what a common man,foreigners and security personals have suffered due to all this.They dont understand what problems our country india is facing they are linked up with their own comforts ,valueless (speeches,discussions,debates) and with politics.they need common man only for vote bank purpose and nothing else.Our p.m. should be a person like Mr.Narendra modi who is well efficient to handle such type of situations and is a very strict and dead honest person.I want to ask where is Raj thackerey at the moment where is Mrs sonia gandhi and our p.m. Mr.Manmohan Singh...????
I love the advancement in technology.
Now we can post our thoughts about things that impact us most.
First, of all my heart goes out for all the innocent people who lost their lives.
Am not anti-pakistan, but the truth is, most of the time (99%) such acts happen, it has pakistani involvement.
I am really proud of our brave soldiers who have shown that they are the best, no matter it be kargil, kashmir, mumbai... any part of the country.
But what abt our politicans? evrytime PM jst expresses his condolences and the matter is over.
I read an article where after 911, there have not been a single attack on american soil.
And look at india, we cannot bring the real culprits of AI hijacking, mumbai blasts,parliamnet attach to justice.
We as people need to raise voice to let out government know, its enough.
Our eyes are now dry and there is blood instead of tears.
One way to do tat is through internet.
In canda, the province of ontario, there was a new rule to be passed by government for teenagers which brought lot of restrictions.
On facebook, a guy started a social group to protest it.
The result, it is so huge that, the minister is planning to abandon the plan to pass the rule.
do we need such kind of thing, to open our eyes of government to take some action.
look on the bright side. maybe environmentalists will show more concern about radical islamists than they do global warming. islamic terrorist's liberal use of incendiary devices isn't good for the planet. plus, blowing yourself up isn't very eco-friendly.
These terrorist are not human being they are devils and they are disgracing the Religion of ISLAM and they should not call themselves Muslim.Pakistan is a country filled with devils they dont know how to live in peace i want to tell them first look in Pakistan Future what they have its only filled with darkness............ which will never end all medical, monetary aid should stop to Pakistan as they are fully Supporting TERRORISM.
I salute the Commandos and NSG for doing a perfect job. A special tribute to the 2 commandos who died in the operation. We have got to remember, They gave their today for our tomorrow!
Terrorism knows no religion or boundries. We have a neighbour who's Intelligence force has funded , trained and has pushed terror for a long time now.
We should be ashamed of our politicians. I sometimes wonder why we Indians take the time to vote for anti-Indian elements. . One is worse than the other. Even now, after this carnage they debate the issue of a 'Bandh'! They are equal to the terrorists!
Army rule for a year or 2 would do India good.
Raj and Bal Thackrey should have gone in to save the Marathi Manoos! This goes for all the politicians. They are bullies and only intent on splitting the country for their personal gain. We have seen who took advantage...
Hey every one is blaming here Islam for this. You people are not at all right. Its not Its not Islam, its interpreters who interpret the Islam that way. We are the lovers of peace we have great culture. True, most of the terrorists are muslims, but I don't say them muslims, one who is kills some one can never be true muslim. I am of the openion that our muslim leaders should think of removing these bad interpretations of the Islam these terrorists make. They should teach us to believe in Humanity and "not only the Islam" (Belive in Islam). Reforms should be made to change Muslims. Our people now also have dozens of children, many of them beg on streets or do some lowere class labours.Badlo bhaiyo badlo!
not all muslims are terrorist ..Rather no one is terrorist if u can have a right definition of terrorism...whom to balme as terrorist? l.e.t.ltte.ulfa,those who carried out masscare in sudan,iraq(saddam),isarel,korea,germany ,kosovo n western europe... or on borders of brazil n many s american countries...or america n russia who could be blame for such new sort of war fare in cold war answer is no we can not blame any one... we have to admit this as a war but by a party who dont have n physical shape as such....LOOK AT THE PICTURES N U WILL FIND THESE ARE 20 -24 YEARS BOYS WHO MUST HAVE BEEN TRAINED A LOT TIME BEFORE MAY BE WHEN THEY WERE JUST 15 YERAS OLD
If the government is strong in security means then no foriegn ant also feel afraid to enter into india .......... As far as my own concern,NOT EVERY MUSLIM WILL BE TERRORIST BUT UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE WHO BECOMES TERRORIST ARE MUSLIMS ONLY..... I don't know what the HELL they earn with these violence....................
The fact of the matter - these terrorist acts are indefinitely connected with extremist Islamic groups, not (NOT) the Islam we encounter on the streets of London, Paris or New York. However, these terrorist have used/manipulated the teachings of the Qur'an to back their 'Holy War' against the Western World and Israel.
Similar to Christians who are disgusted with the 'Crusades' of centuries ago, most Muslims are disgusted by the acts of these terrorists. But we must not forget that these terrorists DO SUPPORT their actions through extreme interpretation of the Qur'an because of their Islamic faith. That is UNDENIABLE.
Less in talk, more in deeds. We Indians are experts in giving grandoise advise but none to implement. Let the Israelis do it. Let Mossad into our country and give them a free reign.
Terrorism from Pakistan will be history in a year or two.
I laugh at some of these comments posted here. These Sub Humans are not interested in your talks or negotiations. They want to KILL you, imbecile, not break bread with you. The more we talk of needing to "understand" them, the wider the grins on their face become, and the weaker we as a nation become. I'm sorry but this is about Islam. I know not every Muslim is radical Jihadist but, what is the tipping point? When is the jihadist element the mainstream viewpoint and the radical viewpoint the moderate? That time is drawing near. The world is quickly losing patience with this "religion" and the violence committed in it's name.
The simple fact is these terrorists trained in another country for these attacks. That is an act of war by the host country and cannot be overlooked.
Muslim apologists, be gone. Your religion is promoting and enabling the world's terror.
We all know that these barbaric terrorist calls themselves Mujahidin.. meaning Islamic Warriors who rages Jihad (Religious War) .. the only thing I dont understand, who they fear and why? Is this what there religion preaches them to do. Dont' they have family and children.. NO LIFE.
Some one has commented that no one said a word when people were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he felt sad and tormented and concluded that all this makes a normal person.. an extremist. Did he bother to think that what was the reason for killing them.. It was a retaliation and not a JIHAD. Did he ever thought that the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were victim of this Barbarism caused only and only by Islam.
World is at Chaos, no place is safe on earth.. why.. because Its Islam, that the mujahidins are trying to preach at point blank.
Even the most secular person on earth will be against Islam now.
I feel Islam is all about KILLING INNOCENT PEAOPLE.
once again britain and america are blamed for this sh*t.your cowardly acts will never be forgoten .british and american law abiding citizens will never give in to your cowardly attacks.if you want a fight show yourselves and stop hiding.you cowards
Its a shame for the indian Government, the indian establishment, the indian serurity forces and the intelligence that this event took place! i have grief in my heart for all the people who died, not coz they were indians or americans or wotever nationality but coz they were human beings! .. the indian people should ask their govt and Inteligence org. to do their job instead of pointing fingers across the border! .. and just to add to the faliure, they are asking the Paki Intell chief to come and give answers to them? thats like freekin accepting that the indian govt. and intelligence is the crappiest! .. wot loosers! seriously .. and bottom line .. terroristism is not a race so dont give em a religion,
We should follow the policy of Israel....kill the f***ing terrorist and their families, destroy their homes....and then nobody will ever dare to commit these dastardly acts
Where Islam where problem.
Poster No 443 with opinions like:
".Our p.m. should be a person like Mr.Narendra modi who is well efficient to handle such type of situations and is a very strict and dead honest person."
- is a large part of the reason why such attacks will never cease. This Modi is as culpable of genocide as the US might indict, say, Saddam Hussein. His deplorable stewardship of Gujarat state and its 2002 pogrom against Muslims is exactly what drives more poorly educated and unemployed Muslim youth into jihadi arms. Sad. And these are people who, like this poster, will vote for the politics of hatred, fanning these very flames that consume them. Tragic. This attack is sadly not the last we will see if this cycle of mutual hatred and doesn't end. If you think this poster is nuts, try talking to/chatting online with some Pakistani ones. Mirror images - but more virulence and self-delusion in many cases there.
WHEN WILL WE LEARN! FROM PREVIOUS ATTACKS
WHY ARE THEY NOT GIVEING ADVANCED WEPONS ?
HOW ARE THEY TO FIGHT 600 ROUNDS/MIN WITH ONLY 6 ROUNDS AT A TIME?
HOPE THIS WILL NOT GO ON LIKE THIS!
thanks to our nsg,atc,police force
i think we must bannned the terrorist camp which are being run by pak gov.
in every highr pofile city there should always one squad prepared for such things
SALUTE TO INDIAN ARMY
JAI HIND
WER OUR NATION GOING:(:(
I salute to all those who participated in this operation to save hundreds of innocent lives. Such things should not take place on this planet so that the peace prevails all over the world
Asutosh Sharma
Governemnt approved tourist guide
New Delhi
India Should take hard stand on the Terrorist now ...................
Enough is Enough .....................Each of them should be picked up and then should be killed in front of Thousands .................
"Every Muslim is Not a Terrorist , but the fact is that every Terrosrist is Muslim"
I am an Indian Muslim, a very religious person and that makes me god-fearing, human and law abiding. At a time in my youth I was almost an atheist. Today I can see myself as a strong hard-code Muslim who would not bend from anything that my faith orders me to. I have been able to get a good education (western modern whatever), has lived all my life with my non-Muslim (why do I have to say that?) friends, colleagues, neighbors etc. Whenever such incidents happen I go back to the 'book' and try to find answers. I must say I do not like to read so much bad things about my religion (I guess nobody likes it); so just to reassure myself I go back to the 'roots' or fundamentals of Islam and see whether it has the substance to make a person like me a 'radical' in the mould of the terrorists. I can tell you my answer has always been 'NO' The reason is maybe because I was not raised to be a zealot, I verified any thin about my faith before I implement it for myself and my family. I would want to see my kids to grow up like me and benefit from his/her existence in this world rather than stand diametrically opposite to or in conflict with this world. If I could do this without any formal teacher from my community I suppose many of my co-religionists can and also do that. Honestly I do not see how a practicing believing Muslim can be a threat for this world or maybe many of those in this forum have not come close to the real Muslims like us, who are just like all of you here, with humanity, fear of God and law and who are also struggling with their daily existence. But it is this mass of Muslims who are not representative of Islam today in the m4edia rather it is the religious zealot, bigots and fanatics from Pakistan, Saudi, Iran....etc who are seen as representing Islam though all the mad-heads have their own reasons to take up violence and they also happen to be followers of Islam. Any Yes, I am no fan of the mughals or today's mullahs.
Pakistan is a hell and they want to create hell for India. I am an Indian muslim and I want pakistan to mind its business, if they cant learn from their mistakes better keep fighting within and dont create problems for us in India. They have already used religion for their purpose and now it time to suffer but suffer within.
isn't it time that sensible people who are for peace distance them selves from islam? it is a violent religion for a time gone by.
Preeti,
You are absolutely right in your post!
First up all I SALUTE our brothers NSG,MILITERY FORCES ,FIRE FIGHTERS,LOCAL POLICES........ETC.God will funish this DEVILS.
Give it a week and the politicians pus***s and cops are going to all forget about
this and go about usual business of stealing from people.
The bottom line is life has too less value in India.
Look at Kashmir more than 80,000 people have died there in 15 years and even
though Pakistan had attacked India during Kargil war India was not ready to
cross LOC.
Its time to make sacrifices by regular people and learn something from Isreal and US
its the time to wake up and fight against terrorism ,dont you see the blood colour is same!!!! or different religion shed different colour? did those butchers check the caste or religion before shooting the inncoents...hate those bastards who are killing inncoents in the name of god..which god wants to kill innocents without mercy?wearing a red band doest make makes him nonmuslim or makes him muslim.they r evils from pakistan,thats for sure,even a kid can say that without second thought,all religion is good but there are evils everywhere.so stop mentioning the religion and fight against those butchers.
salute those heroes who lost their life for our life....
Why is Narendra Modi the biggest terrorist still free at large? If we are talking about justice and equality then it should he balanced across the board. There is a general feeling in the muslim community (especially the youths) that they have been marginalized - hence, I am afraid that we will continue to see more cases like these - either we solve some fundamental root problems (like arrest Modi and his stooges for once) - or we will continue to see this cycle of violence. Remember Punjab in 1980s? There are about 10 times the number of muslims in India - the cycle of violence will be long ... painful and will be harmful to both sides and we will continue to slide in our progress as a nation.
I believe PAK GOV should allow Indian Army to finish all camps and groups based in Pakistan who has been operating world wide terrorism.If PAK GOV says no than its clear to the world its state sponsor activity and India should make forceful entry in to Pakistan.
com'n guys don't make it hindu-muslim war.
It's between terrorists and us.
People in pakistan are also like us.
They are not at all aware of all this things and they are also normal humans like us.
We have often seen terrorist attacks in pakistan also so they are also suffering from all this
"There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance"
-Ali ibn Abi-Talib.
I wish people would stop saying that the cause of this all is Islam. Terrorism is the spread of fear, and the American and Israeli armies has much done the same (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestina, etc). To say that there are no Christian, Hindu or Jewish terrorists is just plain lying. There has really been a lot of Christian and Hindu violence throughout the past (Crusades, anyone, not to mention the constant problems in Kashmir), and most Muslims (almost all of them are against terrorism (I advise you to look up Khatami's statements concerning 9/11 and terrorism overall. And yes, he was the president of Iran in the past).
Most religions say that non-believers should be killed, whether they be Hindi, Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
to preeti, who "refers to muhammed the messenger" as jack ass!!!!!
you are un aware of the teachings of muhammed, that is why u say such things, islam means PEACE and islam does not allow for terrorism and clearly condemns all those who cause trouble and even goes to the extent of punishingsuch ppl... dont blame the messenger if you dont know his message... its not his fault that these pshychopaths go about doing this saying its in the name of religion.. they dont know the true religion so please dont stoop so low to their level and condemn the holy prophet who was peace loving....
I have seen lots of comment about terrorism and islaam...
someone said terrorism has no religion..but why its all terrorist are muslim..why its problem in only with this religion only..wherever there is killing or wherever there is this sot of attack only Muslim people are involved.what what about the Quran in which its written about the jihad and 72 virgin..every religion teach peace and love weather its Chirstianity, Hinduism, Budhism ,no one says that if you kill you will get 72 virgins...(and for what...)everyone knows for what...is this a teaching from a religious book.I am a hindu and i have read quran. Quran also says many different things which people don't follow...
CAN ANY MUSLIM CAN ANSWER WHY TERRORIST AND MUSLIMS?IS THERE ANY RELIGION TEACH JIHAD?AND SHOULDN'T THAT BE CHANGE IN THE QURAN TO STOP THE DAMAGE WHICH ITS BEEN ALREADY BEEN DOING IN EACH AND EVERY COUNTRY....
Very good photos, full marks to the brave photographers involved.
Commiseration to the victims of these cowardly acts, however it will take far more than this to suppress India, and us their British friends.
Please… all of the comments that attack Islam and Pakistan can only increase the tensions between religions and cultures. Let's stick to the values we appreciate, rather than retaliating with the same — learn from Gandhi's or Nelson Mandela's non-violence, or Christianity's forgiveness. Don't let these terrorists propel the world into a state of fear and distrust.
It really doesn't matter, if we write here or not. Time has come we the citizens of India stand together and secure our country. Lets first cut away the arm which is rottening and by the arm I mean our so called politicians and let all of us work hand in hand to make a "better India", "Safe India" a "Peoples India"
We are a weak nation because of our leadership.We are strong nation because of our people .Congress has being ruling india for almost fifty years and they cannot produce a single leader apart from the family rule they follow . But every thing has a limit .It is time to atttack than resist .Break all diplomatic ties with pakistan.They have all the info about LeT. and other organisations . If not then india can provide the info. needed .In fact they were the sponsors of Taliban and JKLF . If they have little sense than they must realise that they are reeping what they had sowed .
Hatred begets hatred Love begets Love. .
At present, instead of discussing about Muslims and terrorism one should concentrate on the recent attacks. How do they get information? Who is funding them? What nationality do they belong to?. If there is the slightest link of them being linked to Pakistan India should retaliate strongly. So far India has remained silent due to world politics but gradually terrorism and extremism has penetrated deep into India.
Quick judiciary action should be taken and the court should not think twice before giving capital punishments. These militants have killed thousands in the last one year or so.
Enough is Enough for God's sake.
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i also condemns all these terrorism.but one thing i wan to say is dat where is raj thackery???all the nsg members were called frm delhi.......he divided the nation into communities.........any one can use it for their benefit.......as the terrorists did......
all this aside, hating each other isn't going to solve anything at all is it, ?
It cannot be justified to walk around shooting at innocent people,.. and terrorising the world, it only creates more loss of life... These people are selfish, and any religion what can justify taking peoples life and causing terror is not needed in the world. We live in the 21st century and all this is going on, its all very silly and maybe we should all grow up and realise that being peaceful is more fun!!
would you people rather hate each other?, what if i may add wont solve anything,
or Just get on..
hi guys,
i can see the hate and completely understand it. if muslims are sincere as they portray themselves they need to prove
1) delhi imam to visit the wounded and condemn the terrorist act. offer unequivocal support in war against terrorism.
2) if any madman gives call for jihad in their mosques nexttime turn him over to police for spreading communal hatred?
are u ready to do it and show sincerity of purpose? otherwise fingers of suspision and hatred will point at u.
what freedom these moron are talking abt. bloody unemployed youth of this century, donot have capability of doing some thing constructive, then who r u guys to destroy this beautiful world?????
Being son of an army personal i have strong feeling for my country. And take one think for guaranteed
this country have too many young people who can laid there lives for bEAutiful nation of mine.
JAI HIND
This is the worse ever attack that has hit Mumbai and india its reallyy shocking to have terrorist attacks that frequently.I dont want to hold any religion responsible for that its the mere failure of our intelligence agency and the policy of our country politicians.We have to take sum serious measures as taken by USA after 9/11 otherwise such disaster will hit India again and again and all we will be left with pointing fingers to some religion and organisations.Our politicians should look beyond their chairs if we have to avoid such disasters again.In the end I pay homage to all the martyr in this battle and they will be remembered forever.We common men should learn from them and should look beyond their personall life and if they find anything suspected they should inform to police.JAI HINd
In this situation our bloody politician must away from Mumbai. While our Heros are fighting with terrorists, what fuck politician are doing here. Dont give them any security.
Whatever happened was worse for our country..We must stand united in this times of despair for that is what will give hope to us.Hats off to Police,ATS,NSG and the martyrs who laid down their their lives for us;Inidans.Politicians try to divide us on basis of evry peice of discriminating factors.We must be united.Believe that something will change will not help,we should try something to change the situation.Why does security have to lapse everytime?
Why?
Politicians even now;try to grasp all possible votes;even now;when the city bleeds.
I wonder What will happen if We Do Not Vote....
WHAT WAS MR.RAJ THAKREY AND HIS SENA WAS DOING FOR MUMBAI DURING TERRORIST ATTACK?????
Beautiful photojournalism. My humble respect for those who took these gorgeous pictures documenting an extremely terrible event.
Closely watch the picture of the terrorist with gun in the Indian media.
The wrist band is worn by Indians and not pakistanis. The height, body, face features and skin complexion is clearly that of someone from southern tip of Inida. Kashmiris and Pakistani in general have fair complexion. Let the govt finish the investigatino and then begin to blame.
Why do we keep opening our borders with Pakistan. What is the need to start train and bus service between the two countries. Let the Pakistan go to hell. Just seal all the borders with it, and break relations with it completely. No Trade, No Business, No Cricket, No movies .... just stop everything with them, and let India start looking afresh towards future with the others. We have beautiful world of ASEAN countries next door to be with. We have good relations with European countries and the US. I don't understand why do we need to keep any relations with this epicenter of Terrorism called Pakistan at first place. India is a land where Buddha and Mahavir were born. A country where Jainism followers do not even kill as small a living beings as insects and ants, becoming an easy and soft target of Muslim Fundamentalism. Either cut off yourself with them to save yourself. If you can not do that, then stand up and face them boldly and kill them once for all.
Earlier the better, we finally accept the fact that Islam is a Religion of Terror. 1947 was a blessing in disguise that millions of Muslims left this country. Unfortunate part was, equal number remained behind with us. Millions of them and millions others in other countries may come and try to explain how their religion is tolerant and all such blah blah from their holy user manual. For example, I see in the Times of India, one Dr. Zakir Hussain, in India does not leave a single stone unturned to explain to the whole world how his religion is most tolerant, and like him there are millions of others who continue to believe they are peace living creatures. Where are these Zakir Hussains of today to explain what happened for last three days.
Only solution is just to ignore them in every stage and instance of social interaction, and at every stage whenever they raise their head just give back a fitting reply there and then.
No comments please from any Muslim …. We just do not want to know what Islam is … your actions have already shown it.
Forgiving terrorists is upto God but fixing their appointments with God is our responsibility.
God is 1
India is 1
No terrorism can break us
when a billion people become1
Only Our Spirit Can Kill Thems.
Mumbai Is Unbreakable...............Jai Hind
Few of you can raise fingers & blame the Islam religion but how many of you have taken the effort to read the Islamic book & understand Islam yourself.
Unfortunately, these terrorrist are Muslims but do they actually follow Islam? well definitely not. They obviously dont understand Islam.
I am not fond of VHP, RSS or BJP coz to an extent they can be termed terrorist. but I will never say anything against the Hindu religion coz thats not the Hindu religion teaches.
Now I leave it for you to think & decide yourself.
1.All the terrorists in the prison must be shot dead immediately. Show NO mercy to those animals.
2.Educated People are also responsible to this indirectly. They wont vote in the elections but crib all the time about the worst politicians.
3.Ministers like Shivraj Patil are not at all qualified, how many attacks have taken place so far, what is the Puppet PM under Sonia's shadow doing? He must throw out these useless ministers.
4. Does anyone know, the minister of state for home minister Radhika Selvi from TN is a wife of assaninated ex Gunda?
This is a very bad terrorist attack. Congratuilations to the Brave Soldiers, NSG Commandos, Mumbai police and authority. The terror fear is in all over world. There should be some solution
This is the time we need to focus on HOW TO KEEP INDIA SAFE from these terrorists, extremists. jihadists or millitants or naxalites or any separatists etc. Because that is the only challenge we will have in becoming the global super power. We, the citizens of India need to use all our common sense, alertness, creativity and empathy for others to make this happen. Yes, all of us can contribute to this common goal irrespective of our age, gender, education, political affiliation, language , religious belief, economic status, skill level and physical capabilities.
The first thing we should not do is getting involved in a biased discussion from political and religious angles as that will not take us anywhere and divert us from achieving our commong goal. We need to stand for our own country and make our politicians and law makers realize that they do not get our vote unless they become honest and straight forward with us or if they devide us because of age, religion, language, gender, political affiliation,, economic or social status or religions. I do not have to take any names but any honest reader can understand and recognize these politicians and law makers who have been fooling us around for years just to remain in the power and doing nothing to protect us but deviding us within and making the whole country vulnerable to these challenges.
It may be late for us but still it is not impossible. We learn from our experience and we still have time to fix our leaders. Next time they come to ask for your vote please do not only ask them what they have done to make our country safe but also ask them if they honestly believe in them selves and in their spoken words and actions that they have never tried to devide our country on the basis of our language, religion, political affiliation, economic or social status. It will make a very big difference. Once we elect our leaders with that frame of mind and ideology INDIA will remain safe for ever and these terrorists, separatists, naxalites, millitants or any anti-social and anti-Indian activists will just go to hell. But once again we need to work on this common goal together. It is not easy but not very complicated either. We just need to understand it well.
Pakistan is living in the past, they need to wake up and get with the program. The majority of their citizens live in poverty, while the government spends billions on the military to accomplish ghastly endeavors such as these. I live in the US and always believed that you cannot paint people with a single stroke, but I think I no longer feel that way. Islam teaches intolerance, mayhem and murder. All the conflicts in the world have some aspect of muslim involvement. Its sad for me to say this, but all muslims are alike with their fanatic agenda. What will these people accomplish with violence, just hatred towards their people and their religion.
India is really not a democracy! Its mob, gangs and a few families ruling India!
Intellectuals do not take a rule in governance. They are totally involved in making money and letting GOONs rule this country. Until all of them are defeated and intellectuals assist in picking good people to lead there will be no solutions. The YUVRAJ who managed to get a degree with great difficulty at an institute which is mediocre at best is touted as the next leader. Hope this wakes up the buisness leaders and Intellectuals that without rule of law and good goverance we will go no where! Until that time may be we should look at China for type of Govt. which can help us tackle these problems
After going through the comments I have come to known a fact that the world is full of ignorant and retarded people.
Do not beleive Media as they are misled by the comments from the so called politicians and police. This attack has killed mumbai civilians and foreigners irrespective of religion.
If the intention behind this was to blow up the TAJ or any other structure, They could had done it with the enough amunition they had brought and safely return as to how they had come into.
USE YOUR MIND ALL EDUCATED PEOPLE, that why would they sit in the hotel and be cornered to death ? Why was ATS chief and his team killed in this mission ? An attack like this will help whom the most ? What have the killers got with this ? Why are we never shown the captured terrorists acceptance for what he has done, why are we made to beleive only the police and media ?
Hindu muslim issue was born by British and followed till date by politicians. Hindu Muslims are everywhere on planet. Why great nations like US, UK, Australia with lots of migrants and varities of religions dont have any issues like ours ?
WAKE UP !
Well-terrorists have no religion--ok-- can the doctors confirm whether all the killed & captured ones are circumcised or not .? This will confirm to what religion these belonged-- let the pak ISI expert also see this--& not repeat again that terrorists have no religion--Publish face photos of all killed terrorists -their names & locations-----
HI EVERYONE! i'm an indian and living in usa... my heart goes out to all the families and the victems.. i'm very proud of india... so far for not reacting to any of paki's attacks... but is that a good thing or bad????? i dont want my brothers and sisters in paki's to get killed for no reason.. but i want this to stop!!!!! not for india but for everyone is this world..... i'm tired of hearing all this attcks from paki... i want to know what is paki doing to help india with this matter??????????????
If the Goverment Of India doesn't do something fast and i mean it real fast the people will simply not be able to hold on.
People in Mumbai are always told bty these politicans, news Journalists, radio Jockey's abt the " Spirit Of Mumbai " " Resilience Of the Citizens of Mumbai"
"Mumbai people are mentally strong " and what not crap
Frankly speaking each and every Mumbaikar has gone through a lot of Trauma
which is simply keeps a person on a High Blood Pressure
I just hope something good and positive comes out of this else it wud be just the same story and that's it people will soon forget and move on and the Goverment as it is doing "PEACE PROCESS" the biggest joke of the century
Let's see how far can these fools jump "
Hey....This is all because of the Politicians....this is not because of the bitterness among the religions...first of all the ministers should be strict and shoud ahve the ability to take decisions...INDIA DONT NEED THESE MERE PUPPETS TYPE MINISTERS...
Upon seeing something like these attacks, my heart breaks, thinking of the innocent victims and their families. I think of lives cut short and like with every terrorist attack and war, I remember the children who lost one or both parents and are now bearing the unimaginable pain of orphanhood. Let us condemn every act of violence no matter which group is responsible for it. Unjustified and vicious acts of violence have been carried out by governments and groups associated with all the major religions of the world, not only by those claiming to be Islamic. Like all major religions encourage us to do let us love our neighbors and stop fighting.
Did anyone informed Raj Thakrey that some of the soldiers who sacrificed their lives were non Mumbaikars. This isn’t the only time when all Indians should be ONE but they should always be ONE so incidents like this one should never happen again.
some of the above commensts stole the words out of my mouth but just to add
WHERE THE F*** WAS RAJ MOTHER FU**ING THAKERAY AND WHERE WERE HIS MARATHI MANOOS AND HIS SENA, NSG COMMANDOS ARE SOME NORTH INDIANS AND WHY SHOULD THEY LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES SO HE CAN REST AT HOME.
MR. ADVANI, MR. MANMOHAN SING COULD YOU NOT HAVE GIVEN YOUR Z++ SECURTIY VISIT A MISS TILL LATER
Reminder : in the elections you can cast a null vote to show that none is worthy, and none truly are
Mr. Ali of Comment Number 497, I too instantly observed the thread band on the right wrist of the Militant carrying blue bag on his shoulder. However, you have wrongly observed his other attributes. His facial features and shape of the head are definitely that of a person from the Northern Region of the subcontinent. I have known Pakistanis very closely as a part of my work overseas, and I have known South Indians too very well. Moreover, I think you did not hear the voice of one of the terrorists who called up the TV channel from Nariman House while the siege was going on. His Hindi had a Punjabi accent. But it was unlike an Indian Punjabi. If your ears are attuned well, Punjabi spoken by an Indian Punjabi and a Pakistan Punjabi are quite different. His diction and pace of talk was unlike an Indian Punjabi leave alone a South Indian. Use of his Urdu words was another indication he was from the North.
i would like to say the same thing again, which is only the only way to fight with such kind of acts is to stay "UNITE" .blaming any religion or going to what it means or going to past will ruin our present and future the present and future of INDIA. India is a nation of diversity with peace so lets not disturb the situation more, like these terrorists did.
JAI BHARAT!!
@deepak I have a few Muslim friends and please dont categorize all Muslims this way... Accepted that most (read all) terrorists are Muslims, you just can't blame a whole religion for a few zealots. Thats like Muslims blaming all Hindus for the Babri Masjid incident.
@sumantika
If you replace terrorists with innocents/disbelievers i think you'll get what the terrorists feel.
But yes.. we need to take firm steps to curb this menace. An attack on India is an attack on all of us. This has been going on for a really long time now and this cannot go on. We need to equip our defense with state of the art weapons and gear and not send them into battle wearing WWII memorabilia.
The real heroes are the police, the ATS and our NSG..
and yeah to the politicians :: F*CK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU !!!
i think this was nt expected...in india...
i am talking abt religions here...dun wanna hv a fyt....
india should improve...security....n stop..alll the political fyts..
Today morning while surfing through channels I had a chance to see an election campaign of BJP for Rajasthan. In the time of acting together,their govt in Rajasthan was asking for vote by taking advantage of the situation in Mumbai. I am a proud Indian but after seeing that Ad I was ashamed of my so called leaders. At the time of chaos also these politicians always think of there own benifit.Gone are the days of leaders dying for country. now there only motto is to have the power in there hands. And most importantly I dont see any MNS activist raising slogans against these terrorist...Mr Raj where are you? When persons in Mumbai needs u you are sleeping happily in your home. I appeal to all the citizens of india....WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
Save Pakistan To Save Us All
The world must devise a plan to rescue the country from chaos
Gautam Adhikari
The ferocious cruelty and unprecedented nature of the terror strikes in Mumbai may have left many in the world gasping at the daring and meticulous planning of the operation. There’s also some mud on India’s face as a result. But this is an excellent opportunity for New Delhi to try bold thinking and some sorely necessary plain speaking.
To start with, call a spade what it is. It’s Pakistan. Much of global terrorism today, not just what hits India, emanates or is planned from Pakistan. Just take a few instances that are obvious to all in the know but the world’s eyes seemed, till recently, reluctant to see.
Look at how Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who masterminded the 9/11 operation of 2001, was captured in Pakistan; notice how Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri are hiding and leading al-Qaeda from Pakistan, or the Pakistan-Afghan non-existent border, for years; count the jihadi terrorist groups that work from inside Pakistan who seem to enjoy considerable flexibility of movement within that country despite promises of crackdowns made periodically by the Pakistani security forces. And that’s not all.
Recall that the US confronted Islamabad, to apparently little avail, with evidence of the involvement of Pakistan-inspired elements in the July bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul; wonder how the world’s premier nuclear smuggler and rogue proliferator, A Q Khan, can lead a low-profile, yet comfortable and virtually unexamined life in Pakistan while being under so-called house arrest, with no one from the rest of the world allowed to go near him; and, to gently remind everyone of India’s concerns, Dawood Ibrahim —a terrorist by any official standard — continues to be sheltered by Pakistani security forces.
No, Pakistan’s people are not the problem. To the contrary, it is the people and their future — in other words, the viability of Pakistan’s state and economy — that the world must get together to stabilise and help prosper. There’s no time to lose.
The world doesn’t have to believe New Delhi, which has been warning about the threat of an unhinged Pakistan for years. Everyone in the know of things now sees the threat clearly; the point is to undertake a global approach to tackle the problem head-on.
Stabilising Pakistan — which means genuinely democratising its polity and helping its economy grow back to a sustainable level of prosperity in the medium term — will help ensure a viable future for the nation and its people, thereby beating the menace of Islamist extremism that provides ideological energy for jihadi terror. An unstable and economically
desperate Pakistan, on the other hand, will continue to promote terrorism under the guidance of the ISI, which helps a corrupt military establishment keep its stranglehold on power by citing external threats and warning of chaos as the alternative to their remaining in effective charge despite the recent transition to civilian rule.
The world must call the Pakistani military’s bluff and quickly. But the answer can’t be a military one, except in the very limited sense by which sporadic raids are carried out by outside forces and unmanned aircraft or missiles into the badlands on Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan, where the Taliban and al-Qaeda leadership run free. US president-elect Barack Obama perhaps sees the problem of Pakistan in stark outline, more so than the Bush administration for most of its tenure had cared to see. But increasing allied troop levels in Afghanistan alone won’t be able to deal with the crux of the problem.
The crux of Pakistan’s problem lies within that country, specifically in the country’s military establishment. Remember it ain’t Iraq, which itself is still not amenable to a military solution after five years of fierce armed intervention. This is a larger country, with a complicated terrain, and it genuinely has weapons of mass destruction which its armed forces would cleverly threaten to use if push ever came to real shove.
No, the answer might lie in a concerted global effort, at ensuring, first, the sustainability of Pakistan’s democratic experiment. And, second, in pouring in as much assistance as required, under strict supervision of not just the IMF but perhaps a specially designed international political-economic authority that would oversee the country’s direly needed transition from military domination to democratic viability.
In short, the world, under the newly assertive leadership of an Obama-led United States, must devise a Marshall Plan for Pakistan. Such an effort will require the support of not only the traditional G-7 powers; it must have the cooperation of India and, most importantly, China, which is Pakistan’s all-weather friend.
If China, and to a large extent Saudi Arabia, can be persuaded to weigh in with their considerable influence — financial as well as strategic — over Islamabad, implementing a global plan to pull Pakistan out of chaos might actually succeed. And India should quietly help such a plan from the sidelines as a close ally, as it has become today, of the US.
If, however, China and Saudi Arabia choose to continue to offer their shoulders for Islamabad’s military establishment to lean on in order to extract sustenance — financial and strategic — indefinitely, there won’t be any hope of devising a global rescue plan for Pakistan. In which case, we might as well give up any serious hope of fighting terror. The export of the Pakistani-Afghan mayhem to the rest of the world will continue merrily.
Don't worry World. Pakistan is just an infant. They just don't understand what is terrorism or how to kill people. Even they don't know what is a gun. Is it an edible object or wearable stuff, they don't know! I swear it.
But miraculously some of their citizens lands in foreign countries with guns and kills innocent people. Ask them how it happened? And suddenly they are mature! They will term it a big conspiracy. They will say about diplomatic support and all those complicated things.
So, how this kind of situations occurs. Why almost every terrorists captured in India have a Pakistan root? Don't point your fingers towards them, because they are just a week-old baby. The fact is that the whole world is mature and full of terrorists. Every country in the world is a terrorist, except Pakistan. And those terrorists takes full advantage of Pakistan's immaturity. That's why often we hear their names in terror attacks.
The bottom line is "Pakistan is the World's most innocent country"! Don't use the name of Pakistan, otherwise the baby will cry. Shh...
***Learn from history. Learn from evidences (you have so many that they will require hard disk space bigger than the biggest search engine). Learn how to protect your own home. Learn how to destroy your enemies. Otherwise they will change the whole face of this world. Because, they, the world's biggest enemy, have an immature brain. And we all know what an immature bran can do. A big mess...
the islamic terrorists want to kill all infidels (christians, hindus, budhists, maybe atheists too and ofcourse scientologists). then the sunnis will kill shias and other sects and similarly other sects will kill sunnis.
finally only one sect survives so then one tribe kills another .....
once this is done, they kill most of their women and the few decent muslims according to sharia.
after this families fight each other and only one family survives. then the brothers kill each other and then the world ends....
If we could bring an end to war, prejudice and hatred many of the terror attacks
we have witnessed probably wouldn't have happened. When we invade other peoples beliefs and goverment just because we don't agree with it and try to force them into submission we are no different than the terrorist. We only fuel them into wanting to retaliate. Every time someone dies at war it only hardens the heart of a family, so for every one death there will be scores of angry people looking for revenge for every minute that goes by more people loose another loved one and the bigger the plot becomes for terrorism. but that doesn't make it right. It is predictable , for every act of anger there will be an angryer reaction there are very few people who forgive before they forget. Human emotions will always be a common trigger for terror. I don't know if we will ever see the day there are no more terror attacks this violent act has been repeating since the begining of time and in all all forms of life .. To end terror everybody would have to beleive in the same common beliefs so if you think about it would you rather live with terrorism
or live your life without the freedom of believing in your concepts and beliefs, a life without emotions and always agreeing with the same things even if you don't believe in it. I don't condone terrorism or killing, but i do think punishment must be carried out for these acts.
People of india should not blame pakistan for these attacts,this can be usefull excuse to the indian politicains to cover up for their inabilities to create a safe and able india
We cannot keep our doors open and them blame the outsiders why they can in
response to 437.
The international intelligence community is unable to further their surveilance on the "terrorists" because the "terrorists" won't add them on Facebook.
I am Indian and Hindu and I think it is grossly unfair to blame 'Islam' for terror. I think the blame lies squarely on those people who mis-interpret religious texts and indoctrine impressionable minds on the basis of these interpretations. Pakistan today deserves pity for being the almost failed state that it is. The Pakistan state and the people have no control over their territory or their people......its a clear example of a struggling democracy, if we can even call it that.
I feel angry too, but at terrorists- no matter what their nationality or religion. Please realise this is the time for mature action, not for fanning anti-religion sentiments.
"Look at all the crazy bible bangers out there who blow up abortion clinics. "
One should, perhaps, tally up the dead at bombed out abortion clinics and then do the same for Islam inspired terrorism in, say, the last fifty years and then come to a conclusion. Doing so may prevent one from sounding, ah, how to say it, stupid. This is pure equivocation, and it is false.
Certainly, it is possible to debate the origins of terrorism, the underlying causes, but building ridiculous and trite straw man arguments, in an attempt to, what, condemn all religion?, is probably not the way to go about things.
Hand over the terrorist residing and operating out of the Pakistan bases, or we will get them, get them within 10 days with no exceptions, or else India army should move into pakistani soil and destroy them (NO MERCY). If pakistani govt cant get them..... let indian army move in... If pakistani govt doesn't allow Indian Army to move in.... its a clear indication of a non co-operation by Pakistan (just by saying we are co-operating and not doing so... doesn't justify the statement), in which case Pakistan should face a global pressure todo so, Clearly for the terrorist operating out of that country is trained there and then dispatched to world over for killing innocent people with the motivation and brain wash of supporting islam. We need action and quick. As it seems from the initial report Let is nothing but an integral part of al-qaeda. I am sure they are receiving financial help and arms and ammunition help from some source which is not small (you cannot get an LMG machine guns just like that). Definitely its a support of some top level ORG helping them in this carnage. I won't be surprised if behind the scenes some other country intelligence (apart from Pakistan) is also helping. I think it will be best if we can use US intelligence, Israeli attitude and indian army together to combat this terror. Also we need a strict timeline (say by 2010). Whipe out these dirty fellows from the face of the earth.
i salute to Indian army, who saves our life and pray to god please delete terrorist word in his dictionary
Reply to Deepak, Comment no 498...
Here is a hindu replying to you,
You want an answer to what happened to us in last three days from all the muslims & so called Dr Zakeer Husain, U should ask them to Dr Abdul Kalam for that matter.
And further you should ask our hindu politicians in bihar who kill more than 200 during elections, our shankaracharyas who are acquitted of murder charges. And maybe your ownself about what you have contributed to the country. Atleast stand by the pledge you take in saying all "INDIANS" are my brothers & sisters, Don't distribute them into religious sects & be an anti INDIAN.
I believe there is need for Hindus in india to be outspoken when supporting INDIAN MUSLIMS who i believe are the best ones in the world. And Indian muslims too should be outspoken & vocal in their dissent of the terror attacks. So that they lead to set an example to young muslims around the world to be not get influenced by fidayeens.
NSG..They are the real heroes of this country!!! Not indian cricket team! Jai hind!
If America can bomb a country half a world away to combat and retaliate to terror... why cant we strategically bomb the terror camps our selves? We know where they are.. all we need is a good of recon of the area!! what are we waiting for? Pakistan has just agreed to help us combat terror.. also Pakistan will succumb to international pressure if they deny to our strategic bombings...which if they do, indirectly means they support terror!! not to forget the fact that the leaders of jaish-e-mohomad and hizbul mujahideen freely roam in Pakistan! I feel pity at the short sightedness of the terrorists.. their actions show our innocent and sensible muslim brothers in a bad light!!
Am a muslim and am not going to go into arguments and stuff...we have as much whackos as the next religion...
All am thinking right now is why? why? why? why do 60 people go into a city and just randomly kill innocent men woman and children who are only going about their lives.
This is sickening and appalling, these are just a bunch of sick homicidal criminals.
I wish all the brave security forces the best of luck in clearing them out. and my heart goes out to all the families...this is too much...
The motive of these attacks are to terrorise, but we, Indians are not scared of the cowards who only kills innocent people..... They fail in their mission .
we always lived in peace, but from past 10 years we are forced to live in terror. we don't know as and where any blast will happen. I don't know how our intellegence and our special task force and our police and our cbi are working. by this type of negligence we cannot become a super power in 21st century. we must take some firm steps on the administration level and our own thinking. we have the best militery and scientist and our people are wonderful and chearful, but i think we miss something in our own. we must send a strong massage to the world by taking firm steps against terrorism and curreption.
>> The world would be truly at peace WITHOUT religion.
I believe that universal peace among humankind is impossible until all humankind is at peace with God.
I also believe that religion itself is not to blame. What is to blame is the darkness in people's hearts. People, rather than loving God, love themselves (and power and money and pleasure and ...). That includes me.
Religion comes from our broken relationship with God—all people yearn for fulfillment and we all feel some essential unique lack within ourselves which only God can fulfill. Religion is one attempt to fill that need, sometimes more successfully, sometimes less so. But the problem with religion isn't the search for fulfillment but the fact that religions are full of people, and people are corrupt, and as they follow the dark desires of their hearts they self-identify as "this something" or "that something" and so people mistake these somethings or the search itself for pure evil. In their search for God through religion they can prevent themselves from truly finding God because he would eventually require that they die to themselves in order to live for him, and they misunderstand that this is not a loss of anything of value but a gain of everything there is to gain.
No one can earn God's favor by obeying or submitting, since no one is capable of obeying or submitting. God's favor comes not through doing, like killing unbelievers (or by following "live and let live" either), but by accepting God's offer of clemency—which includes acknowledging that you need it—and believing that his word is good and he'll do as he promises. Through this process, one becomes his slave, but it is a curious and light servitude (yet one is still utterly owned by him) where one begins to taste the *ultimate* pleasure of intimate relationship with him. Sexual and emotional intimacy are good and wonderful things, but are cheap tricks compared to enjoying God forever.
'Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. Be of the same mind toward one another; do not be haughty in mind, but associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation. Never pay back evil for evil to anyone. Respect what is right in the sight of all men. If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord. BUT IF YOUR ENEMY IS HUNGRY, FEED HIM, AND IF HE IS THIRSTY, GIVE HIM A DRINK ; FOR IN SO DOING YOU WILL HEAP BURNING COALS ON HIS HEAD. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.'
My heart goes out to those suffering in Mumbai. I will pray for them. Will you pray for them, too? And to pray also for the terrorists? Can you be so sure that, were you brought up in the same circumstances, you could never be one of them? I cannot. And I will pray for you all and for myself that God would continually break down the walls of our hearts and bring us all into peace with him, and thus into perfect peace with each other, too.
The more sure I become every day that I am not capable of doing good, the more God changes my heart, and paradoxically the less evil I do. I am NOT a good person, but there is hope for people like us! It is a simple free gift from God of life, amazing life, and even yet more indescribably wonderful life in him.
If you are still at war with God, please do not wait until you die before you come to peace with him.
WATS MORE CONVINCING EVIDENCE???
a thread on wrist or the continuous frantic calls on sattelite phones from pakistan?
thats no brainer.
muslims did not burn alive the christian nuns and raped them in india. hinus did it. hey but they are good good people peace loving. muslims bad. hindus burned that priest with his son in the car but no hindus good good
i still cant believe wht has happen in mumbai.........the government should do something and not just sit back and take it lightly as always....kill the bastards......enough is enough...
My heartiest condolences and prayers to the people suffering in Mumbai.
Look at his TROUSER..typical katua style pant....armband is a distraction.SOB.mulla.We should shunt
Its been one of the worst times India ever had. Its time we all look beyond small and trifle issues and unite together to fight the evil.
Long live India....
Where is the security status of India today?Would this be the state of Mumbai if proper security services were there?Mumbaikars Please Don't get back to the "spirit of Mumbai" by treating this as "just another incident " that took lives of people.Please do something.Only if we don't sit back will the Gov do something.
Today we have lost some superb officers-thanks to the "safety jackets" and "helmets" they had.Hope the Gov takes necessary steps to keep our country more secure.Not to blame the Gov alone we too have to become more responsible and as some ads say "BE AN ALERT MUMBAIKAR".Well its high time that all Indians wake up...Last but not the least "JAGO INDIA JAGO".....
For all your GENIUSES who claim "not all Muslims are terrorist, but not all terrorists are Muslim" Here are a few examples to prove how F****** retarded you
*Oklahoma city
*Columbine
*The Spanish Inquisition
*Salem
*Hitler
Not to mention our president which has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. .....Or the KKK ....or the abortion clinics. The nut christians are no differnt than the nut muslims
I love my country...India...I am Muslim ......nd i think it is unfair to blame Islam.The kind of killing these Bas***$£ carried out in mumbai killing innocent people and children, they cannot be from any religion ....just demons...........we need to hold together at these times or else the terrorists will achieve their aim of alienation and breeding hatred amongst communities.When Babri masjid was demolished i never took it against my hindu countrymen.......it was all political.I will go further to say that even the probs all over the world today are due to the power struggle initiated by US in their aim to control and police the world.
When we (India) say its Pakistan sponsored terrorism, we DO NOT refer to Islam or Muslims. Why does Pakistan always associate Islam and Muslim words with terrorism? Those who are killing innocent people are not neither MUSLIMS nor HUMANS. ISLAM does not promote killing innocent people in the name of Jehad.
Also Pakistan is not the only country that follows ISLAM. India has more Muslims so Pakistan should not behave as if they are the only ones who follow ISLAM. I wonder why they call themselves TRUE Muslims and refer to those who are living in India as KAFIRS?
I think INDIA should seal all sorts of relations with PAKISTAN to resolve this issue. No buses, no trains, no flights, no events, no meetings… nothing. We are happy in our own world and Pakistan has always given wounds to us.
On the issue of Kashmir:
What Pakistani troops are doing in so called AZAAD KASHMIR? If it is really AZAAD (free) then Pakistani troops should not be there.
Why Pakistan is interfering in the issue of Kashmir when it is not a part of it? Kashmir was a part of India and will remain a part of India. Now it is up to Pakistan to manage AZAAD Kashmir. They can either set if FREE or continue to rule it.
i would just say, don't go out to blame anyone just see who the hell corrupted peoples are in OUR country that helped terrorists and terrorism...
clean them up firstly...
INDIA need the JOSH of youth and the mind of OLD peoples, youth should come forward and old ones should be with them too...
WE have to SAVE INDIA...
kill the traitors and then go for toher countries supporting terrorims...
WE WILL NOT QUIT UNTILL THEY ARE KNOCKED OFF
JAI HIND JAI BHARAT !!!
Operation FLUSHOUT its over!!! is it???
it is far from over..the carriers are down but the disease isn't,its here to stay and will haunt us in the worst possible ways.every day we sleep, we have dreams, we have fears, every moment that freezes unwraps something new,something that changes the very idea of FREEDOM.
This world has moved and moved fast but the feeling of "SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST" has transformed into "SURVIVAL OF THE LUCKEST" ..who is responsible?? are we??
YES we are we have always moved on and have always taken the grinch of their doing but isn't it time to stand and question the suffering we recieve ?
We the common man don't know who they are and why they attack us and sabotage us even kill us and this very ignorance has turned our bliss into a curse .
a curse which has haunted us for years and will be with us for many more to come,are we ready for the fears ahead??
The glimpes of what is coming can be felt and it is fearful enough to jolt us from inside out..We have cried, we have mourned for a day,for somedays,sometimes months but do we have a cure to this disease?
yes its a disease,we have been searching for answers for last 15 years but have just examplified our sorry image of adapting ,isn't adapting to a situation like hampering our freedom? is this what we exist for???
SALUTING INDIA'S BRAVEHEARTS
Common themes among these comments include:
1. Dont blame Islam. The work of a few extremists is not what the religion preaches : I am sick of hearing this. Ultimately each and every terrorist activity boils down to Islam and Quran. I am past the point of caring what you sensible muslims think about the religion. Quran is open to interpretation as a vehicle for violence. All blame lies squarely on Islam.
2. There is more blood on the hands of christians: FFS, that was centuries ago. Christians have evolved since then but muslims have not. In fact they seem to devolve if you look at the situation in some Islamic nations.
3. God will blah blah blah: Enough from all sides about your stupid gods. Even when people die all around you still stick to your retarded concept of god. Escapism at its finest.
From what I am told, any Muslim having prior knowledge of this atrocity would be obliged, by his religion, to keep it a secret.
Can someone confirm this?
If this is true, we are all in danger.
It touches heart to see so many people being so worried,yes I too agree that terrorism has no religion.Please ,please don't get pulled into the fire being ignited by a bunch of lunatics.the horrific past of divide and rule and bake the cake on burning flesh is history.Now we have the power of communication,all hindu ,muslims,christians,and jews together ,let those psychotics know that this time they've failed to fool people. Ketan you have a genious idea,go on boy,invent a gas like that.
Raj Thackery and his sena are big time f*ckers doing all useless and easy job, i mean Social-Policing.
US has CIA, Israel has MOSSAD, Europe has INTERPOL and UK has SCOTLAND YARD. What do we have? RAW. All full of oldies using obsolete technology. Bloody they can't even tap a telephone line I believe. ISI is more resurgent that RAW. What a shame.
If each one of us believes in religion. Ever wonder what all our gods are thinking right now? Which God is winning? Must the hindu god fight against muslim god for Hindus to do well or Is the Cristian god waiting to pounce?
Silly as the above comments seem to be. I hope we all realize, that none of us need religion any longer to survive. That's the only way to survive. Mohameed, Jesus all were great MEN who realized the power of uniting people during times when everyone was directionless and they did this by bringing people under 1 umbrella of common thoughts and beliefs i.e. religion.
Mohameed and Jesus were not prophets , they were not gods, they were hihgly intellignet men who had great vision and knew what it would take to bring people together thousands of years back.
We do not need it anymore. Give it up! It's the only way!
indian media and goverment cannot play positive role in this situation,media is the way of people"s feelings.they are fell in blame game for politics.we are not in state of 1965 and 1971 .this is time to fight against terror because pak and india also that crtiicals problems.blame is easy way of any problems but we r not believe in blame game.
The world is filled with uncivilized, barbarians and most of them are holed up in the F*KING mountians of PAKISTAN and the Pakis KNOW IT
It's time the India politicians got their thumbs out of their asses and did something.
DEMAND TO THE PAKIS THAT THEY SHOULD HAND OVER THE TERRORIST F*GGOTS HDING BEHIND THE PAKIS SKIRTS. IF THEY ARE NOT HANDED OVER TO INTERNATIONAL/INDIAN AUTHORITIES THE WE SHOULD GO IN AND GET THEM AND FINISH THEM OUSRSELVES.
Someone deserves an award, both for photographic excellence and also for bravery, for taking these photos.
First of all a reply to post @497 by some Ali. The terrorist in the pic is not from southern tip of India but from Faridkot in Pakistan. He has revelaed a lot to the police about the whole affair ......Stop generalising the Pakistanis on complexion!! I havnt ever seen a fair pakistani in my life......You have same features as indians. You were formed from India and not a country which came from heaven.......
Thread can be worn by a terrorist to mislead... that is not rocket science to deduce...
Aren't there historically more terrorist attacks from (catholic?) latin america than from muslim countries?
I am really amazed that on every anti social activities throughout the world is carried by Islam groups in the name of Jihadi and all these groups have an direct or Indirect link with Pakistan.....
Why are our Global leaders not able to curb/reform pakistan....
Hi all ,
I totally agree with the post of Kalil amin. War against terrorism is war that all of us have to fight in unity. Terrorist infact have no religion. By holding Muslims responcible or blaming each other won't solve any problem. We all have to join hand for war AGAINT TERROR.
Posted by kalil amin ISLAM IS INDEED RELIGION OF PEACE, KILLING IS BIGGEST SIN IN ISLAM, I APPEAL ALL MUSLIMS TO JOiN HANDS AND LETS FIGHT THIS UGLY FACE OF TERRORISM , WHICH IS GIVIG BAD NAME TO ISLAM AND MUSLIMS IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE OF OTHER BELLIEF.
SAY ALLAHU AKBAR AND COME OUT ON STREETS TO FIGHT THIS COWARD TERROISTS , KILLING THIS TERROSIT IS REAL JIHAD , I APPEAL ALL MUSLIMS BRETHREN LETS US COME OUT AND FIGHT TERRORISM ON IST FACE. nd
In today's world the solution to the terrorism is not the solution the way everyone is thinking, just punishing few countries in the name terrorism. My thinking is that there should be some international independent body. The way UN body was created after WWII for greater cooperation between the countries. On the same lines there has to be an international independent body, with no influence of any particular country. Most of the countries have to fight these kinds of wars in the 21st centruy. Countries do not fight the way they used to fight in the last century. I do not have any specific data but ask yourself how many countries have direct confrontation. It may be one way action.
will this sacrifice bring some change or will it be another matter of discusion????
A salute to the great heros and hope there sacrifice brings some change!!!!!!
It seems that the only ideology of Islam is to spread itself, be it at the cost of other human beings. History has witnessed this. And it is still going on. The roots of Islam are corrupted or are made to appear corrupted by today's extremists or the so called Mullahs. Jehad, for an example. Why there should be a terminology of war in the ideology. And wtf is fatwa. Muslims feel that the world should run as they want, go to hell!!. Its impossible to expect tenderness from a religion which believes in slaughtering sheep and goats for pious ocassions. Who the hell they are to decide the fate of other living beings?
Jai Hind
First of all i want salute from my heart to our brave solders of nsg and army and other company who saved our mumbai and lots of love to all of them .
this msg from my heart ---- I dont know why our respected prime minister and other politician are interested in making relationship with bloody Pakistan.
And I think this time should take strong action against pakistan and we should break all relations with bloody pak ...............it is just like a virus for india who cant digest India successfulness ................
again very very thanks to our brave army and Nsg for completing success full operation against bloody terrorist's.............
Jai Hind , Bhart mata ki Jay
Terrorist have no religion, no country and no race. Lets not talk about this but, rather help people around you and be strong and show world that we Indian's are brave and strong to face this. Lets ask terrorist 'What do you get from killing innocent people??'. May God change all there mind before doing any thing sin.
Jai Sai Ram!!
How refreshing to find on twitter, today some photos of muslims, protesting and calling for the end to terrorism, maybe some good will come of all this misery, pain, anguish, It does seem to be a ground root movement, If you search for muslims against terrorism you might find the photo too, It made me feel a glimmer of hope.
The captured terrorist confesses that all the terrorists were pakistani :
http://tinyurl.com/6eg92o
ALI:
"Closely watch the picture of the terrorist with gun in the Indian media.
The wrist band is worn by Indians and not pakistanis. The height, body, face features and skin complexion is clearly that of someone from southern tip of Inida. Kashmiris and Pakistani in general have fair complexion"
Well... My cat has four legs. All dogs have four legs. Therefore my cat is a dog.
Your stupidity is rare. Please preserve it carefully.
Raj Thackrey? Where is that buffoon? Where is he? He's supposed to be the caretaker of Mumbai and Mumbai people, yes?
He's lame and impotent.
No excuse for such act. No matter what type of injustice and sufferrings we could have face but then doing the same in retaliation is mere insanity.
I love Bombay, I have seen it coming out of darkness every time... i hope this time also people of this magnificent city come together and let the terrorist not win in there motive of spreading fear.
My condolences with the people who have actually sufferered.
Indian governement should take strong decision this time , many people died many family suffering like anthing, if its go like this in upcoming future india ill struggle more , foreigner's ill think to inverse and they ill think to visit india, its not fair to take our country upto that level, indians are born to win, not to lose in any circumstances, i am requesting governement to do best for the public and for the foreigner's, then only everything ill be fine otherwise this incident ill take more problem in upcoming days, jai hind.
TERROR ATTACK, yes it is a terror attack, and it is a terror attack by the terrorists........this act is of multi dynamics, as earlier posted by others it has served with all the purpouses for the talks of all the levels, types, religions of people,
1) The people are made to suffer
2) The victims are chosen on random
3) But a chosen few are eliminated
4) The few in question are releived
5) The world is made to watch
6) The people are given a grand show
7) The actual job of a soldier is displayed visibly
The
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"An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind."
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.
This is a time to embrace all that is happy and optimistic within us. That is the greatest defeat for those who feed off other people's happiness.
Through history there have been power-hungry, blind individuals who have tried to bring the world to a stop. And through history good has ALWAYS won at the end. And it is sad that these few misled individuals are still trying to disrupt peace and amity amongst mankind. May they find enough peace within themselves to prevent them from leeching off the joy of others.
I think that whatever happened was very unfortunate ,and no one ,beside our own security and the government was reaponsible for this whole menace .Its not about blaming a community ,its about the countries security and the security of each and every individual that reside in that country .if our government cannot protect its citizen ,then there is no use of such a government .This is the time when the government should take strict steps to ensure that such things donot happen in future ,even if it takes to declare a war against the other country .This is the time when India should make a world wide impact by showing the world that we are not less than anyone and when it comes to us we can protect ourselves at any cost .
Referring to the picture of the terrorist wandering on Chatrapathi Sivaji Terminal railway station, Isn’t the orange string band in the right wrist of this terrorist a Hindu symbol? I guess media is simply ignoring this and I also wonder how big the projection would have been if it was a “Taweez” or a Quran.
Its so hard to understand that we Indians have no value of our life.Understandably this is all made up by the nasty dirty policies of the Govt that is run by selfish people(to say the least) who care only for themselves. And once again as always in few days we will forget what happened In Mumbai. Its time for us to come together and fight against the poor stance taken by the government(may be vote bank) and force them to take stern action against the evils of humanism.Terrorism has no religion and lets all fight against it.Please don't wait for Manmohan's and Patil's to do something as they are not going to do anything.
its not about religion its not about faith....its about guts which our country lacks......our politicians are old peace of sh*t who worry more about north indians than about pakistani terrorists.....and no doubt i agree with my friends that islam religion can not be blamed for all this but it is a bitter fact that when we see islam connected with every disturbance around the world....these perceptions are going to be the only outcome.....
and as regards narender modi thanks to him that gujarat is a happy place to live in now...there was a time when it was impossible for a hindu girl to move freely in her own countryyyy...thnks to modi it doesnot happen now....
Saare Jahan se Achha Hindustan Hamara
Hum Bulbule hain Iski
yeh Gulistan Humara
Mazhab nahi sikhata , aapas mei bair rakhna
Hindi hain hum Watan hai , Hindustan humara
-those who love to see blood should kill themselves and bleed in the Process and see their own blood and have their Wish.
- those who want land ( read Kashmir ) how much land do u need? I think a 1500 sq. feet house should be good enough for you? Get one made in Pakistan
-those who need honor. By God , nothing can be more dishonorable than this. Not only to you but to other innocent people in your Community
- those who want terror. does peace hurt you ???
-those who want to do something for Pakistan - fight AIDS, Hunger, Unemployme