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Ethnic clashes in Urumqi, China

On Sunday, July 5th in Urumqi, the capital of China's western Xinjiang region, thousands of minority ethnic Uighur residents marched, demanding a government investigation into an earlier incident - a brawl between Han Chinese and Uighurs in a toy factory in Shaoguan that ended with at least two Uighur deaths. Sometime during the July 5th protest the situation became very violent, Uighurs clashing with police and attacking local Han Chinese. Urumqi citizens woke the next morning to learn that over 1,000 people had been injured and 156 killed in their city. Government forces worked to quell the violence and to separate the newly-formed Han vigilante groups and the Uighurs still in the streets. Communications were shut off, streets closed, curfews imposed, hundreds arrested, and thousands of troops poured into Urumqi, which remains tense - several clashes reported even today. [ Update: Today, 7/10/09, Chinese officials released the ethnic breakdown of those killed in the riots for the first time - 137 of victims were ethnic Han, 46 were Uighurs and one was Hui. AP Story ] (36 photos total)

Liu Huiling, a Han Chinese patient, who was injured during ethnic clashes recuperates at People's Hospital in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Wednesday, July 8, 2009. Ethnic clashes have paralyzed Urumqi over the past several days, with minority Uighur and Han Chinese mobs roaming the streets and attacking each other. (AP Photo/Eugene Hoshiko)

A handout photo allegedly taken on July 5, 2009, and released on July 6 by the Washington-based 'Uyghur American Association' said to show the scene of a riot involving Muslim Uighurs and Chinese security forces on a street in Urumqi, the capital of China's Autonomous Region of Xinjiang. (AFP/AFP/Getty Images/Uyghur American Association Handout) #

A video grab from China's CCTV shows an injured man in Urumqi, in Xinjiang, China on July 6, 2009. (REUTERS/CCTV via Reuters TV) #

In this photo taken on Sunday, July 5, 2009, and released by the Xinjiang Government Press Office, Tuesday, July 7, 2009, a burning vehicle rests in a street following a riot in Urumqi, China. (AP Photo/Xinjiang Government Press Office) #

Dead bodies of victims following riots are seen in Urumqi, Xinjiang China in this government handout picture taken on July 5, 2009 and released to Reuters on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/Urumqi City Government/Handout) #

In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, a fire engine burns during the riot in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, late Sunday, July 5, 2009. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Li Haitao) #

The dead body of a victim lies on the bloody ground following riots in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in this government handout picture taken on July 5, 2009 and released to Reuters on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/Urumqi City Government/Handout) #

In this photo taken on Sunday, July 5, 2009, and released by the Xinjiang Government Press Office, Tuesday, July 7, 2009, a bloodied, injured man is helped by a nurse following a riot in Urumqi, China. (AP Photo/Xinjiang Government Press Office) #

A boy runs next to an overturned car just outside the Uighurs neighbourhood in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/ Nir Elias) #

Zhang Xiangying, a Han Chinese victim of ethnic violence, recuperates at People's Hospital in Urumqi, Wednesday, July 8, 2009. (AP Photo/Eugene Hoshiko) #

A bloodstained car, damaged during protests, is towed away in Urumqi on Monday, July 6 , 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

A woman looks through a damaged window following Sunday's riot in Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/Nir Elias) #

A large group of Han Chinese walk up a street carrying sticks and shovels in Urumqi on July 7, 2009. Police on July 7 fired clouds of tear gas to disperse thousands of Han Chinese protesters armed with makeshift weapons, as chaos gripped this flashpoint city riven by ethnic tensions. (PETER PARKS/AFP/Getty Images) #

Armed Chinese soldiers in riot gear march across a main street leading to the end of the city occupied by ethnic Uighurs in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/David Gray) #

An ethnic Uighur woman looks out the window of an apartment one day after Han Chinese mobs attacked the compound in Urumqi, China on Wednesday, July 8, 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

Ethnic Uighurs look on as Chinese security forces stand by the entrance to the Uighurs' neighborhood in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/ Nir Elias) #

Ethnic Uighurs stand watch with sticks behind a roadblock in their neighborhood in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/ Nir Elias) #

An ethnic Uighur woman carries a metal rod as she walks down a main road in the city of Urumqi on July 8, 2009. Urumqui's ethnic Uighur and Han Chinese residents have taken to carrying metal rods and sticks for protection against attacks. (REUTERS/David Gray) #

A Han Chinese man carries a spiked steel bar while using his cell phone to take photos as he joins a mob of Han Chinese men attacking Uighur properties in Urumqi on Tuesday, July 7, 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

A Han Chinese crowd walks, carrying sticks and other items as they gather in the street in Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/Nir Elias) #

A Han Chinese man chases down a photographer to stop him taking pictures as thousands of Chinese take to the streets in Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (PETER PARKS/AFP/Getty Images) #

Han Chinese men attack a Uighur house despite tear gas deployed by Chinese paramilitary police to stop them in Urumqi on Tuesday, July 7 , 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

A mob of Han Chinese throw rocks at a building where some Uighurs were believed to be hiding in Urumqi, China on Tuesday, July 7, 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

Chinese security forces get into formation on the People's Square in Urumqi, China on Wednesday, July 8, 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

An army helicopter flies over the city of Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (PETER PARKS/AFP/Getty Images) #

Chinese soldiers and policemen in riot gear stand together on the main square in the city of Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/David Gray) #

Ethnic Uighurs hold sticks and wait near the entrance to their neighbourhood, as security forces stand outside in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/ Nir Elias) #

An AFP TV grab shows a mob of Han Chinese attacking a lone Muslim Uighur man along a street in Urumqi, China on July 8, 2009. Han Chinese mobs attacked two Uighurs in separate incidents in China's flashpoint Urumqi city on July 8, according to AFP reporters, who witnessed the events. (Sam Beattie/AFP/Getty Images) #

Chinese paramilitary police prepare to face off protesters in Urumqi, China on Tuesday, July 7, 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

Tursun Gul, a local Uighur woman on a crutch, shouts at Chinese armored personnel carriers and soldiers wearing riot gear as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/David Gray) #

Tursun Gul, an ethnic Uighur woman, faces off with Chinese paramilitary police in Urumqi, China on Tuesday, July 7, 2009. Gul, along with a crowd of Uighurs behind her, was shouting at the soldiers to return their men - Gul's husband and four brothers were arrested the day before, along with over 1,400 others.. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

Tursun Gul argues with an ethnic Uighur officer of China's paramilitary Peoples Armed Police in front of an armoured personnel carrier and other soldiers as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (REUTERS/David Gray) #

Special police officers face off a crowd of Uighur residents after they staged a protest near visiting foreign journalists in Urumqi on Tuesday, July 7 , 2009. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan) #

Ethnic Uighur women grab a riot policeman's helmet as they protest in Urumqi on July 7, 2009. (PETER PARKS/AFP/Getty Images) #

An ethnic Uighur man carries a shield and a stick as he walks around his neighbourhood in Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (REUTERS/ Nir Elias) #

A Muslim man looks out from his boarded up shop in the Uighur area of the city of Urumqi on July 8, 2009. (PETER PARKS/AFP/Getty Images) #

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There has been much sophistry claiming that the reason minorities in China commit massive collective crimes can be all traced to the oppression of government and discrimination. That is oversimplification. Among over 50 minorities, the most violent riots are always conducted by the two with strong religious indoctrination, while other groups always resolve problems peacefully. From historical point of view, Chinese government, either current Communist party or earlier Manchu Emperors or even earlier ones, generally their policy on Tibet and Uighurs are rather moderate, but of course with some very bad cases. Just think about European's behavior in North America and Australia, and Africa, they solved the native minority problem rather "neatly":

"The immediate objectives are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements. It will be essential to ruin their crops to the ground and prevent their planting more." - George Washington
"This unfortunate race, whome we had been taking so much pains to save and to civilise, have by their unexpected desertion and ferocious barbarities justified extermination and now await our decision on their fate." - Thomas Jefferson

I don't mean be blind to flaws, but as a big nation on Asian Continent, the ethnic dissension is inevitable due to the diversity on the continent. The independence some people dream is definitely impossible: central Asia is always in quasi-stable, every big power wants to play there.


Posted by weakling, just-call-me-gov-employee July 9, 09 02:43 PM
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Whole ethnic cultures, nations, and people ridicule and criticize for that action of a selected few. (and vice versa). It's sad.

I'm not taking either sides, it's pretty messed up what both sides are doing to innocent people.

Posted by K.H.N. July 9, 09 03:17 PM
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Politics aside - Great job Big Picture in posting these photos. They are all wonderful in capturing the essence of the scene.

(I hope these Chinese can find a way to live in peace.)

Posted by will July 9, 09 03:46 PM
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Ethnic divisions will always exist and flare into conflict now and then given the right catalysts. The Chinese government does have a deal similar to Affirmative Action to help minorities, which breeds resentment among Han people. In reality though Affirmative Action, just like it is in the US, isn't nearly enough to offset the existing vast difference in socioeconomic status between any minority group and the Han majority. Without having gone through the same difficult process of self-discovery in racial relations and the associated bloody history as the US has, the Chinese simply do not yet have the capability for a higher level of racial acceptance and therefore equality. Until then this kind of conflict is inevitable.

Posted by Read Comment #130 July 9, 09 04:31 PM
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Please read
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/world/asia/09han.html?ref=asia
Migrants Describe Grief From China¡¯s Strife .
Pay attention to the below sentences:
"The government, apparently hoping to tamp down racial violence, has not released a breakdown of the ethnicities of the 156 dead. But Mr. Lu¡¯s father said that of more than 100 photographs of bodies that he looked through at a police station to identify his son, the vast majority were Han Chinese, most with their heads cut or smashed."

heads cut or smashed.
Each victim had a number. His son was 51.

Posted by David July 9, 09 05:51 PM
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It comes down to people fundamentally don't like what is different. Uighurs probably aren't treated as fairly as Han Chinese and are not given the same opportunities for employment. They're a minority and probably get screwed over a bit.
There's probably no love lost between either of the two cultures and they ideally should be living completely separately.

Posted by Joe July 9, 09 06:48 PM
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Posted by Nia C July 9, 09 07:02 PM
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At some point reading the above comments I saw a relation between this and the classic debate between Hamilton and Jefferson: whereas Hamilton believed that all unrest must be never be allowed and suppressed as Washington had done in the Whiskey Rebellion, Jefferson believed that conflict should break out once in a while in order to vent public sentiments. Both tries to preserve stability, but with opposite means. The big question that's provoked by this incident is what effect does it have on China's political, cultural, and ethnic unity -- somewhat related to the above, yes?
US's cold war foreign policies along with expanded power of government have definitely left a deep root on journalism for bias, but probably moreover made reporting on Communist or so related countries sensitive after USSR collapsed. In other words journalists, though trying to be neutral, may still be interpreted as partial to one side. Thus, at least partly, we are ourselves responsible for biased reports. (That is not to say, however, that the severity of bias does not deserve alert and criticism) The most just report is probably a presentation of all numbers relevant, but then it will be quite useless because a normal person with a regular job has no leisure to read up on everything and build a interpretation of his/her own.
With my limited knowledge of Chinese policies toward minority groups, I can see similarities between this incident and the clashes between, at first, peaceful Blacks who led by King advocate integration and the corrupt officials that violently beat them, and later between Black separatists like the Black Panther and Malcom X who indirectly incited several sabotages of neighborhoods and the innocent whites hurt. Expanding the similes a little we can probably see the connection between the Civil Rights movement and the current problem in China. I would go further on my analysis but I'm afraid my limited information will only lead to bias.
Nevertheless, this is a truly tragic episode. If a pair of Romeo and Juliet can fix up the feuding families of Montague and Capulet, I sincerely hope that the 156 dead can ameliorate the conflicts between the Hans and Uighurs.

Posted by GY July 9, 09 08:17 PM
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Just a couple of facts here:

1) Policy about ethnic minority commiting crimes:
There is a written policy in China since 1984 called "兩少一寬", roughly translates as: TWO "LITTLE" (catch little, kill little) ONE "LENIENCE"
which says when it comes to ethnic minority commiting crimes(especially small crimes), police should apply this "mercy rule" on them.

2) Ethnic minority are legal to carry knives with them because of their cultural/ethnic needs, including Uighurs. While Hans are not allowed to. So when the riot broke out, they already got weapons with them.

Posted by yip July 9, 09 09:44 PM
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The "western" media portraying "Chinese government is evil", perhaps, because "Chinese governemnt is exactly evil..." First to the Tibetan, and now to the Uigher.... what is next in line?

Posted by Easterner July 9, 09 11:06 PM
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Agree with 138 comments, Han Chinese can help Uyghurs to develop their economics, but MUST be fair while Uyghurs committing crimes! otherwise, always encourage them move forward to the wrong direction...
Recommend a song, Stacey Kent's song: Want the world need now is LOVE.

Posted by Go Peace July 10, 09 01:45 AM
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"There is no smoke without China"

It is obvious that the tyranny of Han chinese makes Uighur people rush into riot.
Ton's of brain-washed rich Han chinese don't know how evil that their goverment is.

They are just dreaming in the cradle of communisy party.

Posted by michael July 10, 09 02:47 AM
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TO: #104 ptben

==QUOTE==
"These people have nothing in common with Chinese people, they don't even look the same and have an entirely different culture. Why must you force them and label them as Chinese?"
==UNQUOTE==

Then tell me if Eskimos and Indians are Americans? Tell me if Blacks and Whites should not be in the same country? Tell me how many more countries should Europe be divided into according to your "definition of COUNTRY"?
Ethnic diversity is part of the evidence of history. ÓÐÈÝÄË´ó¡£The sea can hold the water from thousands of rivers, it's big because of its capacity. Ethinic diversity of a Country tells about its abundance of history.
If you know that little of ethnology, go learn some.
I'm so sorry for you, Mr/Ms pathetic narrow mind.

Posted by DD from China July 10, 09 03:00 AM
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Everybody can have different political opinion and their own religion, but I don't think it is right to massacre civilian. If a religion advocate violence, I think it should be a heathendom.

Posted by jennifer July 10, 09 03:02 AM
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The 2nd pic was not taken in Urumqi. It was shot in Shishou City, Hubei Province.

Posted by LLLLLL July 10, 09 03:25 AM
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Just an MJ song for the alive and deceased. For those of you who've never once been there and prefer to watch CNN/CBS/Reuters or whatever, pls. DO shut up!

There's a place in your heart
And I know that it is love
And this place could be much
Brighter than tomorrow.
And if you really try
You'll find there's no need to cry
In this place you'll feel
There's no hurt or sorrow.
There are ways to get there
If you care enough for the living
Make a little space, make a better place.

Chorus:
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me and the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough for the living
Make a better place for
You and for me.


If you want to know why
There's a love that cannot lie
Love is strong
It only cares for joyful giving.
If we try we shall see
In this bliss we cannot feel
Fear or dread
We stop existing and start living
Then it feels that always
Love's enough for us growing
Make a better world, make a better world.

Chorus:
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me and the entire human race.
There are people dying
If you care enough for the living
Make a better place for
You and for me.

Bridge:
And the dream we would conceived in
Will reveal a joyful face
And the world we once believed in
Will shine again in grace
Then why do we keep strangling life
Wound this earth, crucify it's soul
Though it's plain to see, this world is heavenly
Be God's glow.


We could fly so high
Let our spirits never die
In my heart I feel
You are all my brothers
Create a world with no fear
Together we'll cry happy tears
See the nations turn
Their swords into plowshares
We could really get there
If you cared enough for the living
Make a little space to make a better place

Posted by tntraider July 10, 09 03:32 AM
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People of East Turkmenistan are beaten when they recite Quran (the holy book of Muslims), prisoned when try to learn Quran. They meet with all kinds of prohibitions even before birth, if the government claims that they are of excess, they are killed in their mothers wombs.

They do not have the right to learn their language and history. It's more than a dream for them to choose a university for education or find a good job. They are questioned for their identites in every part of their lives.

If their guilt is to claim a right, they're paying far too much for what they want. They are tortured and left to death in prisons. The lucky ones who are able to survive the prison, are subject to physical and mental disorder for all their lives.

The Chinese government is forcing mothers to abortion if they are found pregnant "out of plan", meaning having children more than a certain limit, decided by the government under the law of population planning.

The Chinese people, look with hatred and anger when they seen an Uighur. The police forces can anytime stop and interrogate the Uighurs. When an Uighur enters a shop, people look at him like he's an evil robber. Taxis and buses refuse to take Uighurs. The Chinese government labels them as "terrorists who are enemies of the state".

The government can arrest Uighurs by their wish, with no reason. The worse happens to their families, because it's forbidden for anyone to help the families who are left behind according to the laws.


The freedom of thought, speech and religion are by no means available for these people. They do not have education, working, religion, free election, proprietorship and immigration rights. They do not have their most basic right of free worship (praying) in schools or at work. The mosques are being closed, all signs of Islamic rituals are being banned.

These are a few examples of ethnical mistreatments, which these people are encountering each day.

Posted by okkesthoughtbuble July 10, 09 03:43 AM
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I don't know why all photo is Han Chinese attacking Muslim? These are many case that Muslim attack Han Chinese, why? I think it want to make Han Chinese a bad looking in world's eyes

Posted by Fenglong July 10, 09 04:59 AM
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@105., It is true that Uighers commited a serious crime in China and received less penalty or no penalty. These Uighers in Guangdong raped and killed Han girls, and received no charge sparks the Han factory workers revolt against them. The communists covered the news as they don't want to spread the haterals on Uighers or even Muslims. That's is how everything start.

Communists party are really shitty for their ethnic policy, and the reverse racism is everywhere against Han in China. One Child policy is typical example. The uighers exiled leader Rebiya Kadeer have 11 children, all these children were born in China before she ran away to USA.

Posted by xyz July 10, 09 05:04 AM
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These pictures are so untrue as what I experienced in Xinjiang, American (Western) mainstream media will never give up any chance to demonize Chinese government. Well, be careful this time, how Uighurs think and treat Han, is same as how Muslim radicals treat Americans, Jihad believers, insane.....

Posted by BRANDON July 10, 09 05:11 AM
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I protest the racist Han chinaies because of their massacre .I protest also the chianis government because they didn't take necessary precaution.Uigurs people are innocent, t hey are oppressed,all han chinse are cruel, where is all world people? all uigur people are slaughered by han chinse in urumqi, where are human rights, there are no human rights for uigur people, because they are muslim, beceause they are ownerless, they are turkish, where is humanity, mobs han chinse people barbarically,unworty,killed uigur turkish people in the street in urumqi.

e of their masacres and genoside against

Posted by Metin July 10, 09 05:30 AM
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thanks

Posted by serhan July 10, 09 05:59 AM
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To Ari-san @126
Whichever country u come from, u'r pathetic.
Beware of ur tongue.
You have no right to insult the Chinese before u come to know China.

Posted by tntraider July 10, 09 08:32 AM
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bueno estan fuertes esos problema pero se que un dia tomaremos conciencia y tendremos un pais justo donde el imperio no triunfara. dijo el che una vez que es mejor morir de pies que vivir arrodillado.
rafael baez. age 25 rep. dom. 829-333-4310.

Posted by rafael baez July 10, 09 09:17 AM
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All is Okay... Really nice answers and comments here by Chinese ppl or Chinalovers.
But please tell me, what the heck is Han Chinese doing in Uighur land? Who placed them to there? When and why??
anyone knows the meaning of the word "assimilation" here ??
Everyone knows there aren't any human rights and respect to human life in China, remember TIBET ??? Huh? yea TIBET !!
I can't hear you...???
Come on people whats ur problem? its not about religion can't u get that?Did not Chinese government also blamed the Buddhist monks as "Terrorists” ??
And my last word is coming to simple minded, low lifes who connected Uighurs with
Al Qoada or someshit on their stupidass comments:
“Try to be a human before to blame human”

Posted by Rumi July 10, 09 09:34 AM
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>>146 okkesthoughtbuble
You are a shabby lier, a miserable Quran-parrot:
Even in the center of Urumchi there are several mosques. In some remote areas, conservative muslims built more mosques than schools, their brightest boys study intensively the Quran as the ultimate intellective knowledge, and mosques in Arab nations/Turkey are their uppermost working place. This is the reason they fail to be competitive and can't find better jobs than Han people.

Minorities are not constrained by one child policy, Rebiya Kadeer, self-claimed "the mother of Uigurs", married at the age of 14, gave birth to 11 children. She is a woman with no political talent, she can only frame Chinese with a fake picture as "proof".

Han people don't hate Uigurs, but those extremists can not be excused. When I was in university, there were some Uigur students. The have special dining-room and dorm, they prayed, they lived normally as everyone else. These Uigurs are bright ones, open-minded, surely they will be successful in their profession.

As you have talked about the Islam problem, ok, let's talk bluntly more about Islam.
The current media mood follows a "politically correct" path try to aviod any discussion about possible relation between Islam and violence/poor/extremist. Too many people are coward to face the basic idiosyncrasy of violent Islamic mob groups, in the west it's liberalists, in China the official media thoroughly avoid it.
Why some Islamic groups, when they face the modern word, fell so uneasy, despair, threatened, and then hate others? Because on the one hand they want to enjoy the benefit of modernization, on the other hand they refuse to accept new ideas, espeically those not accord with Koran, simply speaking, they feel insecure in the changing word.

Posted by muh July 10, 09 10:18 AM
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when can all these ignorance and prejudice come to an end?? if you don't know the truth,keep your mind open and mouth shut! So many inocent Han people were killed by those Uighur mobs but all these pictures only biased showed Han took revenge and police took to restore the stree and protected both people....

Posted by rita July 10, 09 10:27 AM
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To #154£º
Just some facts:
The land's name was recorded in documents dated in ~200 BC.
Thanks to the Silk Road, the culture and civilization prospered.
In this land, Uighur accounts for ~46% of the population
If u look at the word assimilation from its face value, then I'm telling u the Uighur have their very own customs and cultures.
And don't take it for granted that "everyone knows" something, at least u don't. U never get a clear picture if u stick to some snapshots from this Chinese Negative
News Network which is also under strict censorship. All you see are what they want u too see.
If u turn back the clock and look further into the history of US, what they did to the Indians can hardly be forgiven by God. And pls., learn some history of Australia.

Posted by tntraider July 10, 09 10:49 AM
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Where is the proof of Uighur rape at this toy factory?

If you have some, please present to the Chinese authorities. They concluded that the Uighurs raping Hans story was fiction.

Posted by rk July 10, 09 12:58 PM
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I hope Americans could also have your judgement.
Picture-20, as a general knowledge, An ethnic Uighur usually wears that white hat.
it is obviously not Han people crowd.

Posted by sandy July 10, 09 01:24 PM
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Riot death toll rises to 184, Chinese media say

30 minutes ago

URUMQI, China (AP) China's state news agency says the death toll in ethnic rioting in western Xinjiang region has risen from 156 to 184.

Xinhua News Agency reported Friday that the dead included 137 people 111 men and 26 women from the dominant ethnic Han Chinese group. The agency says the other fatalities include 46 Uighurs and one man from the Hui ethnic group. Xinhua says the Uighur victims include 45 men and one woman.

It is the first time China's government has given an ethnic breakdown in the riots.
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Posted by Shin July 10, 09 02:14 PM
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While looking at these pictures I was struck by the thought: Modern clothes, modern city, caveman behaviour. As if all humanity and civility have been forgotten.
May God have mercy on them and reveal Himself to them, that they may come to know the one true God who said, "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44

Posted by Sola Veritas July 10, 09 02:36 PM
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My comment is to the person who said that Urumqi is a Mongolian word. Yes, you are right about that Urumqi is a Mongolian word which means "beautiful grassland", but Urumqi is not a Chinese word. I like to tell you this Uighur and Mongolian languages belong to a same language system which is the Altayic Language System. And Mongolian also addopted anceint Uighur written language. The current Mongolian written language is actually the ancient Uighur written langauge. Uighur stopped to use it after they converted to Islam. Go and do your research about it. I think this tells you that Uighurs and Mongolians have some language relations. Do not forget that what happen to your people when the Janapess envaded your country.

Posted by freedom for every human July 10, 09 03:11 PM
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The picture doesn't tell a story of what happen...I never pay much attention to the news and this is the first time seeing the pictures but i can't really draw conclusion base solely on the pictures so you guys need to chill. The photographer did a good job, i don't believe they are trying to portray anyone as the people who started this. The pictures seem to be more random.

Posted by gary Her July 10, 09 03:12 PM
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Can't help noticing the desperate defensiveness of the comment-spamming here by Han Chinese drones. It's almost as telling as the picture essay, and makes me wonder if the real story, versus the Xinhua version of reality, is even worse than anything we've heard or seen so far...

Posted by Albert July 10, 09 03:29 PM
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to freedom for every human@162

The following description may explain why languages connection.

"The Kyrgyz invasion, while putting an end to Uighur power, did not annihilate the people. Fleeing Uighur groups settled on the Chinese border in what is now Kansu province and in East Turkestan in the Turfan (T¡¯u-lu-p¡¯an) region, which had been an Uighur protectorate since the end of the 8th century. Falling back now on the Turfan oases and setting up their capital city in Kucha (K¡¯u-ch¡¯e), the fugitive Uighurs created a remarkably stable and prosperous kingdom that lasted four centuries (c. 850¨C1250). Because of the dry climate of the region, many buildings, wall paintings, and manuscripts written in a variety of languages have been preserved. They reveal a complex, refined civilization in which Buddhism, Manichaeism, and Christianity existed side by side, practiced by Turks as well as by Tokharians, Sogdians, and other Iranian peoples in the region.

When the time of the Mongol conquests came, the Uighurs lived up to their best cultural traditions. Realizing that resistance would be vain and would lead only to the destruction of his country, Barchuk, the ruler of the Uighurs of Kucha, of his own free will submitted to the Mongols. Uighur officials and scribes were the first ¡°civil servants¡± of the Mongol empire and exerted a beneficial civilizing influence on the conquerors. The Sogdian script used by the Uighurs was adopted by the Mongols, who in turn passed it on to the Manchus. Side by side with the Cyrillic alphabet, it is still in use in Mongolia."

Encyclop0Š3dia Britannica. 2009

Encyclop0Š3dia Britannica. 2009

Posted by allen July 10, 09 04:31 PM
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to Albert @ 164

These clash was in China, so you can hear the voices from American Asian who know about the situation and history in that area even better than the reporters. We need an open mind before jump into any conclusion.

How about the stories from the other corners of the world, the fact you've never seen iraqi or north korean guys commented on related stories and fighted for them on some untrue claims doesn't mean they
would agree with you! It simply because they have no access to these reports.


Posted by alion July 10, 09 04:48 PM
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I want to remind everyone arguing here that while it's understandable to express your rage, sorrow, etc., please do not let it contaminate the basic principle of supporting your statements with evidences. Some of the enraged commentators here talk more hyperbole than truth, which might mislead uninformed readers. Also, name calling and biased words decrease your credibility. For example, post 146, though I daresay the events in it must have happened to some people in the history of China, has so many words and details of extremity as to suggest the exaggerated nature of it without one's checking up any relevant sources.

Posted by GY July 10, 09 05:04 PM
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To the photographer that took these photos.

I recently heard that the punishment will be death for them that took part in these protests. ok im sure the chinese police takes photos from the protesters. But maybe you should start hidding the faces of the protesters since these photos could cost them their life.

Posted by xamogelo July 10, 09 05:32 PM
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to alion @ 166,

So, wait, you're claiming "Asian Americans" are each automatic experts on the doings in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, and are collectively moved to post here from say, their homes in Iowa or Wisconsin or wherever, to try to set the record straight with all the inside information they have, as American citizens, living seven thousand miles away? And I, as an "Irish American" should feel moved to step up and defend the loyalist mob that kicked a Catholic to death in Londonderry last month, based on all I "know of the situation and history" of the Troubles in Ireland, as an American who has lives on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean? Are you seriously claiming each "Asian American voice" posting above is a direct expatriate of Xinjiang who despite coming to live the United States, still has a fierce need to give a voice to the helpless, innocent Han Chinese they left behind, based on having a direct line to the actual facts from on the ground, that belie the evil, slanted and Sinophobic photojournalism of the West?

Posted by Albert July 10, 09 07:26 PM
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i lived in Urumqi for 9 years. this seems unreal! so hard to imagine that
city in such chaos.
thank you for reporting!

Posted by Karissa July 10, 09 08:38 PM
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aha!!! when the slaughter happens in 7/5 , the media could not and missed occasion to take the photos, so when HAN peoples were killed , you media just "blind"

you put lots of pics of "han mobs" in this set of photograph, i should say the photos are true, but you aslo misguided readers , you know, that's not the real situation

Posted by Movhead July 10, 09 10:16 PM
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It's absolutely not han chinese crowd. I'd suggest you to know the real of the photo before publish with wrong words.

Posted by kevin July 10, 09 11:33 PM
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All that has transpired is a direct result of terrorism, violence always begets violence, so riots are not the answer.

Posted by alex langensiepen July 11, 09 02:18 AM
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Many of you are forgetting that the Chinese government INVADED Xin Jiang in 1949 and is an occupying force.

Posted by Alex July 11, 09 03:39 AM
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Human right? Talking about human right?

How about muslim terrorist who killing whoever they like?

Are they having license to kill?

Posted by ongwj July 11, 09 06:07 AM
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for pic NO 19, it hard to tell if it's a HAN group or other Ethnic groups, for pic No20, it's not a HAN group, from their cloth and white caps, it looks more like a muslim group to me, either Hui or Uighur

Posted by george July 11, 09 07:16 AM
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I agree with post 137 by GY. For my two cents, from what can be gathered of the situation, the outcries of the Uighur people being terrorists are simply not true. These people are being labeled without even being given a chance. These people are angry for a reason and we must all sit down and reflect in order to see the bigger picture. In my mind, these people are angry because their standard of living is being attacked by the Chinese government. The violence that has stemmed from their anger is no doubt a sad moment in human history, but we must stop standing and shouting and sit down. Lets think our way out of this by educating ourselves about the situation.

Posted by Ed July 11, 09 11:57 AM
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....People fear what they don't understand Why fear Muslims Arn't they human maybe they are aliens who knows?
For comment N°176 how u can say they look like muslim !!!! How muslim look like ?!!! tall,short,black ,yellow ,white ,.................
Then China ! isn't the first time , u ve forget Tibet last summer ?

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
I think the Last Judgment is coming soon ..........
What Next ? Antichrist ......
End of the world
> Just love others like u love yourself

Posted by Vikia July 11, 09 07:54 PM
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What if about 2 Billion Muslims Boycott (Made in China) ???
And Muslim Country Stop business With China ? i know this is rediculess
It will be another economic crise ...............

Posted by Vikia July 11, 09 08:09 PM
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China killed 250 tibetans and showed statistics of 17 people killed. Not to forget the few thousand tibetans that have disappeared aftermath. I am sure China has created mass murder in urumqi, poor muslims feel like in hell. China is an evillllllllllllll curse to tibet and east turkistan. You animals wearing human clothes shall rot in hell quickly.

Posted by evilcursechina July 11, 09 08:41 PM
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To stage 87: Are you stupided or crazy? You are lswindler.

Posted by John July 12, 09 03:57 AM
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I've gone to Tibet and first hand witnessed the systematic annihilation of ethnic Tibetan culture and people. The Chinese are VERY good at wiping out any trace of ethnic diversity and quashing free speech when it does not reflect the goals of government.

What the Chinese are doing to the Uighur people is atrocious. The world needs to stand as one and pull out all production from this country and cease exporting into China. Only swift and strong economic retaliation will change this COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT'S outlook!!!!!!

Posted by FREETIBET July 12, 09 04:04 AM
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Pic 19, how do you know the man is going to join 'a mob of Han Chinese men' attacking Uighur properties?Could it possibly be the same situation as the woman in Pic 18, it's for protection?
Pic 20, are you sure that is 'A Han Chinese crowd' ? Do you think the Han Chinese wear those HATs?
I could not judge anything from these photos since I found those mistakes based on my SO LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND COMMONSENSE.
If part of your story is not the truth, nobody is going to believe you at all.

Posted by truth July 12, 09 06:18 AM
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is it me, or do many of the comments here appear to be written by Chinese government internet monitors?

Posted by Jay July 12, 09 09:03 AM
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Association of Turkish merchants Games announced that 20
companies imported from China for the Games have suspended their Imports
With increasing calls for a boycott of Chinese products.

WOW......
it's just the beginning

Posted by Vikia July 12, 09 09:14 AM
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ben wilhelmi, if you really think you can blame religion for what happened in WW2, then you should go back to preschool.
My grandfathers were christians and fought the germans, my whole family fought side by side with muslims, jews and christians in the liberation of the Netherlands.
Hitlers goal was to establish a 3rd world empire and to acquire "lebensraum" or living space for his race of superior germans.
And to compare communism with religion is a dangerous mistake.
Any form of religion was forbidden under communism.
The main reason for war is usually greed. Just because most parties belong to different religions doesn't make it a religious war.
In the case of China, they have a tendency of occupying countries with many natural resources, filling the country with chinese to obtain an ethnical majority and then claim the population wants to be belong to China.
It's a form of cultural genocide that has worked for them since Mao and will continue to do so if the rest of the world keeps standing aside like the greedy cowards they are.

Posted by Hans July 12, 09 11:33 AM
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Every one know that Chinese government always liar. the same thing and results happened in Uighur as Tibetan. Many Han Chinese's mind and soul also destroyed by CCP. some people says Uighur people should grateful to Chinese? so, Han Chinese should grateful to Japanese? Because Japanese liberated them from Man Zhu. it is same logic. Every nation has own wright to self-govern.
Fact is fact. CCR are doing culture genocide and genocide in East Turkestan ( Uighur Land). CCR and Han Chinese power in East Turkestan and Tibet will be end soon hopefully. If you han Chinese want to survive, should respect other people's wright and culture. other wise will be punished by GOD.

Posted by Freedom for Uighur July 12, 09 02:24 PM
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in pic20, most of you said they are uyghurs, rediculous, it's obviously hat of cook, are you chinese lost your mind???
And some of you are talking about religion, does it matter with religion? what about tibet in last summer? are they terrorist too? are they muslim, too? you poor brainwashed chinese, just shut the f*ck up, and stip defending your country. China is evil!

Posted by Anonymous July 12, 09 04:47 PM
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Evil, 188?

The government or the people?

Posted by Adi G. July 12, 09 06:03 PM
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Sympathy for both uighur and han chinese victims of violence. The chinese state is monstrous, but this situation has a lot of badguys and a whole lot of people will needlessly suffer for it. An unfortunate lesson that imperialism has too many consequences for both its perpetrators and victims. However, before we dismiss this as something unique to Asia, let us think of how we treated uighurs, iraqis, afganis, and countless others in our recent imperial adventures.

Posted by Ray July 12, 09 06:51 PM
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Leben hoch Muslim Uighur ! Your not alone. We are Indonesian Moeslim People support you to againts China Comunist Tyrany. we pray for you. Allah Swt will help you Uighur. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar

Posted by Lukman Hakim July 12, 09 11:29 PM
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Han people were, are and will be the dorminating race in Asia. They are taking over VietNam at this moment, soon Laos then Cambodia, Thai Land...etc...They have been done this for thousand of years- that's why their country is so huge-wiping out other races in the process.

Posted by jason July 13, 09 01:55 AM
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All what happened is really unfortunate. Life of every human is very precious. No doubt, China will bring situation under control. China has always proved to be our real friend.

We see muslims in trouble in many parts of world. Allah help them. Second reality is that muslims have not showed results where ever they are independent. We muslims are responsible for not setting good examples for world to follow as advised in our Holy Quran. The result is wrong interpretations of Islam. The word meaning PEACE is being wrongly translated and portrayed as terrorism. I fear this is enhancement of the evil chain which we have already seen in many territories giving noting but killing innocent humans. The Al Qaida ghost is already under discussion.

Posted by Baber (Pakistan) July 13, 09 02:46 AM
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How minority Muslim Uighurs can kill so many Han Chinese? It is because the Hans thought they can murder the Uighurs easily, not realising the Turkish fighting spirit of the Uighur's predecessor. So Allah helped those who are being victimised but we will never know the real story, how many Uighurs are being taken into custody and will perish in prisons without ever going to trial. This is the story of many Muslim minorities in the world as the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. had predicted, " There will come a time when Muslims are many like foam in the ocean.but they are as weak as that foam"..

Posted by emilio July 13, 09 04:53 AM
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Somebody above are brain_disable! Like Clown..
Hope China gov. could beat the terrorists strongly and keep the justice!!!!
188 victims(Han and Uighur) were killed by some Muslim Uighurs Mob, More than thousand were injured heavily!!!
Han and Uighur people shall unite closely and fight with terrorists!!!

Posted by Norman July 13, 09 06:49 AM
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Hey guys, do you remember that Chinese invaded Xinjiang by force?
What do you think about that? What will you do if your country was invaded by another country?

Posted by agungfirmansyah July 13, 09 07:49 AM
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Strange that Islam seems to be in conflict with anyone surrounding it... There are conflicts in Africa -Darfour- in the Middle East -Palestine- in Europe -Greece vs Turkey- in the Caucasus -Chechnya- in India -Pakistan- and now in the Far East... I can't help to wonder if Islam is facing opposition because it is spreading, or if it is just besieged on every front...

Posted by D.S. July 13, 09 07:51 AM
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Ethnic clashes in Urumqi, China

Posted by Muzaffar Ali Rana July 13, 09 08:15 AM
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Take a real good look @ pic #7. . . .now replace the man w/ a dog - and multiply by 35 thousand. . .this is how many dogs were beaten to death last month in the broad daylite Hanzhong city streets . . .and they ALL wound up lookin' like this poor guy . . . and then were dumped in the local river - polluting the water, of course - all this w/ sanctions of local chinese authorities. . . NO, China no way land of harmonious feelings as premier would have world believe . . .

Posted by andre michel July 13, 09 09:49 AM
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Lots of bullsh*t! Some people above, please go back school to learn history, OK? Who told you, china invaded xinjiang? Do you know han dynasty? Do you really know where is xinjiang? is it in turkey or america? And please not be so cold-blooded if you are human being, OK?
It's so funny even such country like turkey appears to blame RPC. You know turkey has been supporting Dongtu terrorist for many years. I love big pic, but I'am so disappointed and sad because I see fascist here now.

Posted by DefendForPeace July 13, 09 01:36 PM
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#13 reminds me of a Bruce Lee Movie.

Posted by Johny July 13, 09 04:52 PM
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the protests were peaceful until security forces over-reacted and fired indiscriminately on crowds. Do you know how many Uyghur people were killed by Police? All these triggered by Wan Le quan. Wang le quan is the really killer. Why polices only cached and killed Uyghur? Why not Chinese killer? Did police rest any Chinese killers? Wang Le Quan is the REAL KELLER!!!

Posted by Lu Nacy July 13, 09 07:03 PM
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you people do not understand what happend in uruomqi. hundreds of Hans were killed,in cluding many childs. Before you critizise Chinese Goverment, please come to urumqi and view by youself. I am a student of English and respect and love western culture.But you western never want our people hanve peaceful lives!

Posted by john July 13, 09 09:15 PM
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what are these pictures??
I dont think it's a fair media.. you might just show how Han people were killed by Uighur.. but not on the contrary...you dont show how Han so desperately gladly killed the Uighur ...
there are more than 1000 uighur were arrested and many more were killed.. is it fair???
anyway, if chinese goverment wants to carry on the peaceful on this earth.. then please open herself up..dont hide what has happened in there.... let the human rites council investigates this case ....many people informed me the situation was on the contrary.. Han feels free to torture and kill Uighur...
please be fair being a media.. dont just stand up for one side.... and if it's related to any kind of religion..i dont think so.. it's related to the greedinessof china to make one china, same as what she treates Taiwan and also Tibet...

Posted by Hoashi aichi, jakarta July 13, 09 10:17 PM
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Are u born yesterday? Can you think by urself and open ur mouth after know the truth. Never make decision before you know the truth!

what are these pictures??
I dont think it's a fair media.. you might just show how Han people were killed by Uighur.. but not on the contrary...you dont show how Han so desperately gladly killed the Uighur ...
there are more than 1000 uighur were arrested and many more were killed.. is it fair???
anyway, if chinese goverment wants to carry on the peaceful on this earth.. then please open herself up..dont hide what has happened in there.... let the human rites council investigates this case ....many people informed me the situation was on the contrary.. Han feels free to torture and kill Uighur...
please be fair being a media.. dont just stand up for one side.... and if it's related to any kind of religion..i dont think so.. it's related to the greedinessof china to make one china, same as what she treates Taiwan and also Tibet...

Posted by Lee July 14, 09 03:09 AM
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the photos doesn't look biased to me, shows casualties on both side and what han chinese had suffered from a violent attack and fought back days later seeking vengeance. It shows that the country has deep problems and the government is in serious trouble if she doesn't start uniting people with things other than 5000 years of history or bitter times of foreign occupation. Conflicts seems to be spreading out of control, based on ethnicity on social gap.

Throughout history, the Chinese are very realistic and somewhat short-sighted. For a race of its size and deep ancestry, It didn't accomplish much but fighting among themselves for land and control, it doesn't really have the ambition of other empires, sad maybe, but a good thing because it won't really bother others (and you really don't want that to happen, especially china...). So let the Middle Empire sort it out themselves, its been like that for thousands of years, and at this point nothing the outsiders can do will help either. So just stay out of this one.

Posted by cell July 14, 09 03:18 AM
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Many people questioning why Michael Jackson is getting more coverage ?
Maybe its because he is a man who stood for PEACE.

Posted by Human July 14, 09 06:47 AM
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The writer of 146 is wrong to imply that one child per family is applied to Uygurs nationals, contrary to the truth, minority nationals in China are allowed more, but not for the Han people.
These mobs maasquerading behind the banner of Islam, and contrary to the teaching of the Koran, they went on killing and robbing the innocense with such brutality, will duy be punished by God.

Posted by David Chong July 14, 09 03:05 PM
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I don't think these pictures can show all of the truth, I am a Chinese native.These photos were taken after the riot , most of them were about roily chines han people.
i have a friend from Urumqi, her families said that too many uigur people were carzy to kill any han person they saw, at the beginnin of riot , some uigur young men burned a police car! as the signal for the whole riot , they gather a lot of people to attack any han person they saw, even the pregnant woman!!!!! This is the reason why so many chinese han people are roily and angry to attcak uigur people.
i can not understand how can these uigur people do those things, in china goverment give the loose policies to uigur students, so they can enter the colleges even they only got evey low score, in chinese factories if the company emploies the uigur, the local goverment will also give the loose policies to the company, for example tax policy, now more and more chinese people are discussing whether should country give the especially policy to the minority? it is fair? i don't think this is fair.
In china, almost in every cities, there are uigur thieves, we call them "Xinjiang thieves", it's true, people hate these people ,because these uigur thieves always kidnap the uigur children and force them to be the thieves!!! if these children be found the adults will surround and attack the person who was be stolen, it's doggone! in the folk, people always say that uigur thieves are controled by the xinjiang terrorist, because these children 's parent were told by the terrorists that their children were send to do the honour jobs for their race!
so many people are killed through this riot....i do not want people talk about the enmity again and again.

Posted by maq July 14, 09 11:08 PM
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What is truth? Xinjiang is chinese territory since Rome Age. Uighurs you can go anywhere you want to go but just cannot establish an independent country with Xinjiang. There has never ever and will not be such a country.

Posted by Kris July 15, 09 06:47 PM
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As I understand the land belong to Uighurs so what exactly Chinese Hans are doing in their land?

Posted by Mark from Canada July 16, 09 02:18 AM
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Isn't it interesting that, if you are an enemy of a country, you will show thousands of images and video footage all across the internet and media, just to see them destroy each other and anger other countries of this world, making them agree with your views, but, if you are a friend of a country where 10 times more people are getting killed, you will try and do your best to show almost nothing to nobody.

If you are a person who can think clearly about life, you will know what I am talking about.

Posted by Zackeriah July 16, 09 02:18 AM
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The Han chinese are the ones killinlg the Uighurs!
The Uighurs are victimized by the government for years and years and this is yet another version of it. Oppression at it's worst.

Posted by Moeoz July 16, 09 12:36 PM
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I support the chinese hardline against the Uighur. I wish we could be so staunch against islamic extremism here in Europe.

Posted by Great Dane July 16, 09 02:04 PM
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I do not believe this riot is caused by religion reasion, it is not between chinese and islamic, in china, most people don't believe any religions, even in uighur area, only just some people belongs to the islamic, as we all know , chinese goverment is atheistic, lol~~
it's the common knowledge, mate

Posted by Mark July 16, 09 09:58 PM
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it's not ture about those pictures.most of these pictures were about the bad figure of chese pla man and injured Uighurs.actually,153 han chese was dead in this riot,only 33 Uighurs was dead.so many west medias issue articles said that most of pelop were Uighurs that wounded or died for pla man .and they published a wrong picture about injured han chinese said he was a Uighur.also theg published a wrong picture about other province 's calsh said that pla man put down Uighurs.things like this are so many.if you want to find out the truth,come to xinjiang ,you will find a lot of han chinese lost their homes ,their wife husband or children and their properties.and pla man there is massive not wrong but they are keeping public security not killing Uighurs.

Posted by Anonymous July 21, 09 01:09 AM
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需要超越民族和宗教的局限,去看去听去想。

Posted by fisher July 21, 09 04:17 AM
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I did not go to Urumqi to see the fact. But I believe the primacord will not have any bias when primacord happenned in Guangdong and be report by our Chinese new paper as a regular report on crime. There are not any foresee of the later riot. So I belive this report of the primacord is quite true. If you do not know this primacord and believe those report in western. I think you guys are just treating as a fool by the reporter. I'm very angry with some western reporters. I think they get a wrong job. better find a job as chef so he can make any of the delicious dish arbitrarily.
Please respect the victim!!!! They are not material of your delicious dish which you can handle by your gread talent.
I believe our government will work better and better.

Posted by Jack July 22, 09 10:29 PM
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Where were the pictures of most ordinary han people killed on the street / small allies? I was in Urumqi on 6th, Uighur Muslim were well organized, terrorized region with all sort of weapon, whole thing had an strategy to kill innocent han people whoever does not look like Uighur Muslim. It most backward event I have seen in a modern world. They killed kid,older and women. They burn people alive, they throw taxi drive out of the bridge, the even stripe a chinese girl, throw her into the burning car, chop victim's head hang on the tree etc. It most cruel things you could not possibly imagining. You do even kill an animal like that.

Where were the pictures on your website? It is not an ethnic clash, it is an organized terrorism, it is not a demonstration, genocide Han/ Hui looks like people in the region.

Posted by urumqionfire July 24, 09 11:58 PM
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This is very Unfortunate. China should give more autonomy to the Xingjiang region to avoid such type of incidents. All the Muslims in this region should express their Integrity to China to get back the confidence of Majority Han Chinese. Just required is the Balanced activity in both sides.

Posted by Hanchinese July 26, 09 06:18 AM
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Just like its attack on Tibet, China attacks Urumqi. What's new?

Posted by O July 29, 09 10:09 PM
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Hilarious. So few here even know why the riots took place. Chinese mobs killed 2 Uighur men because they were alleged rapists (this turned out to be false). They took things into their own hands because Chinese police are afraid of convicting Uighurs because they know that they are an unstable population.

As such, the Uighurs started protesting (and of course eventually rioting). Chinese police are very cautious nowadays because of the international eye on them so they did not stop the riots. The rioters beat and killed women, seniors, children and men. As long as they were ethnic Chinese. Pretty barbaric in my opinion. The Chinese responded by arming themselves and performing counter-riots, which were largely stopped by the Chinese police with tear gas. Over a thousand Uighur men were arrested afterwards. The Uighur women decided to protest when foreign media got there so they could make their point- despite their husbands largely being criminals. There, end of story.

Posted by David R August 2, 09 12:33 PM
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As a han-chinese, I have been lived in Xinjiang for 15 years. A basic fact is that Xingjiang is not an exlusive land for Uyhur Musilin, there are also 11 minorities including musilin-hui, the second large ethic people in China. western people are misleaded by some western media, We are not head-bashed as normal as you are. why muslin-hui also being musilin ethic people are not feel they were descriminted by han-chinese and china goverment. therefore the incident is by no means a religion problem nor a culture problem. on the contary, the chinese government encourage the divesity of the culture. in addtion, chinese have controled xinjiang region for almost 2000 years (Xi-yu is ancient name for Xinjiang in Han dynasty while xinjiang province in qin dynasty also for 300 years).
why dou you think we should leave? it is also ridicoulous if we ask all white people in America and Austria back to Europe as they belong to indian and negro people.

Posted by Steven August 3, 09 11:51 AM
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these pictures were awesome!!

Posted by Bonquesha August 18, 09 05:17 PM
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MUSLIMS ARE UNDER CRISES AND IN PAIN DUE TO DIRTY POLITICS OF USA. ALLAH BLESS ALL MUSLIMS. AAMEN SUM AAMEEN

Posted by ATIQ MIRZA August 23, 09 10:37 AM
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1) I am amazed at how many think the Communist tookover Xinjiang in 1949. If you would please sit down and and read history, you would have known that the name "Xinjiang" came in 1757 by the Qing Dynasty.

2) I strongly disapprove those who saw others as communist internet monitors, and even if that is the case, given that you live in a FREE world, how come it's not free for the communist to speak?

Posted by BoogieMan September 4, 09 08:24 AM
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Posted by fisher July 21, 09 04:17 AM
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Man I totally agree with you.

For those who are concerned,
"Surpass the boundaries of ethnicity and religion, to look to listen and to think."

Posted by BoogieMan September 4, 09 08:40 AM
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the minority ethinicals enjoys more right than Hans, they can join university with lower exam grade , and can born more child, and even slightly be punishment with equal crime guilty in China, the goverment protect them, they still kill our Hans, what peoples! why you guys still describe our "mob of Hans", they killed more Hans than they be killed, I hate the voilence, but we want truth, you guys come to china to see what happened, do not trust you so called "reporters".

Posted by john li September 16, 09 03:32 AM
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because some people haven't experienced it, they don't understand what's happening. i think this is a repeat of history, just in a different place and time. some people are lucky to live in peace because progression happened long before this event, others are more unlucky because there has been no movement.

from the comments, we must ask ourselves how the media delivers information to us, how we take it in and how we process the information. only than can we truly form a better perspective and in sight of a situation.

sometimes we have to look deeper and examine the things around it.

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