Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
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Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
Your Red Sox are 2-5, off to their worst start in 13 years. The offense has looked anemic, Jon Lester and Josh Beckett have been hittable, and now Jed Lowrie is on the disabled list and Nick Green is
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Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 8:32 AM EDT
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Your Red Sox are 2-5, off to their worst start in 13 years. The offense has looked anemic, Jon Lester and Josh Beckett have been hittable, and now Jed Lowrie is on the disabled list and Nick Green is the starting shortstop. Are you worried about this team?
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 9:22 AM EDT
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I think it's too soon to be worried about the pitching but the lack of run production is a valid concern. With Manny gone and Papi still seemingly affected by his wrist issues it's becoming clear that Theo's failure to land a middle-of-the-order hitter this offseason could be the 2009 Red Sox undoing. Fortunately it seems that, with the economic downturn, there should be some bats available at the deadline. Unfortunately (unless Papi and Lowell revert to 2007 form) that puts all the pressure on the starting pitching to keep the club in the race until then. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 9:39 AM EDT
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untimely hitting and hittable pitching. Beckett is not looking like the so called bounce back pitcher we thought he was going to be and Lester has looked just awful out there. When you're 1-2 pitchers look like that... it's an issue. Lets see what Dice K does in his next start. The pitching was supposed to be the one thing they could rely on this year and it's been nothing but unreliable. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 9:51 AM EDT
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It's far too early to worry about the Sox.The season is a marathon,not a sprint.There's plenty of games left,relax and enjoy them
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 9:59 AM EDT
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I think the Red Sox management,meaning Theo,has been on the wrong track for awhile. David Ortiz has not been the same since Manny left. The rest of the players were having the same problem hitting at the end of last season. They pulled through, but you could see the problem with them not being able to get hits in the Tampa Bay series. This just confirms my belief that Theo only understands the money aspect of the game, but not the heart and soul. The team now has no heart and soul, and that is why they are losing. What do you have? Youkilis who pounds against the wall when he strikes out? The team has lost its spirit. Theo needs to take lessons in the psychology of managing a team, never mind the money. The Red Sox will have a terrible season, unless Theo comes up with a trade for someone who can hit and who also contributes to the cohesion of the team. It is sad, but the Red Sox as a hot team have regressed, thanks to poor management, meaning Theo. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 10:02 AM EDT
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I think it's too soon to be worried about the pitching but the lack of run production is a valid concern. With Manny gone and Papi still seemingly affected by his wrist issues it's becoming clear that Theo's failure to land a middle-of-the-order hitter this offseason could be the 2009 Red Sox undoing. Fortunately it seems that, with the economic downturn, there should be some bats available at the deadline. Unfortunately (unless Papi and Lowell revert to 2007 form) that puts all the pressure on the starting pitching to keep the club in the race until then. Posted by theUnderdog Although the offense has definitely been sputtering, the problem is not relegated to just David Ortiz and not having Manny around.
Let's expect better days to be coming from most of these guys! |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 10:07 AM EDT
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I thought that we had problems at the end of last year that weren't addressed this year in spring training. I thought the pitching was grossly over rated (good but not great) Wakefield is adequate but you don't win championships with adequate players, the younger pitchers are still learning, plus we are missing a solid lead off guy, Ellsbury is ok but not great, also there was and still is a need for a top notch shortstop (and yes give someone one of the young pitchers for him), and the lineup needs a power hitter (we've got good single and double hitters) and finally where is our young catcher? We were told that we were going to save money and just get some low budget fill ins. We did and now you see what it will get us. Well now that the real season has started the same problems are showing up all over the place. Unfortunately, I think if they continue to play as poorly as they have been we are going to be in dire straits come the beginning of June. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 10:10 AM EDT
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Not worried....YET! Posted by moonslav59 That's how I feel as well. If the question were, "How annoyed are you with the Red Sox?" I would have said, "Extremely... ready to throw my TV out the window." Worried, however, I am not. It's too early. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 11:16 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say "worry" is the right word for me. I am concerned. However, it is early, and it seems we always do poorly on our first West Coast trip of the season (ok, not quite this poorly.) The pitching staff is far too talented to continue with consistently poor outings and will come around. The Offense? Well, there are holes. As much as it pains me to say this, the biggest hole is the No. 3 spot (Sorry Papi, you look like Tek did last year- lost!!!) Kudos to our Captain for looking much better to start. Even when he doesn't get a hit, he is hitting hard from both sides of the plate. Patience is key here. We as fans are not good at it, but I think in a couple weeks we will be rewarded by having a little patience. They WILL come around!! Still early........ |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 11:19 AM EDT
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Hey Folks: Take it from someone who was at the game last night in Oakland: The Red Sox STINK. No offense, mediocore defense and lousy pitching. And if you haven't noticed, the Sox are a bunch of old men. Watching Ortiz, Lowell, Drew and Varitek is like watching a beer league softball team. I can't imagine the Sox finishing higher than fourth, behind Tampa Bay, New York and Toronto. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 11:37 AM EDT
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It depends on your view of the team prior to the start of the year. 1. If you were one of those who believed that the pitching staff was top notch, the offesnse was too, and the bullpen was phenomenal, than no, you should not worry, because anything can happen in baseball after 7 games. You should stay the course. 2. If you believed that there actually was a weakness in the rotation, potential liabilities over certain offensive players, and that the "depth" to back this up was older pitchers and unproven kids, yes, you should be concerned. This is a serious answer. Basically, you either believe that this is just a random sample of badness over 7 games, or, that there are actually a lot of problems with htis team. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 11:58 AM EDT
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Thats the problem I am not enjoying them the way they left 24 men on base in Sundays debacle against the Angels. Beckett did not pitch that badly, he pitched well enough to win. He is not going to be perfect everytime out. Jon Lester on the other hand was another story. He is giving up mamoth home runs to left handed hitters, Pena- Tampa Bay and Cust -Oakland. I was concerned in the winter time when they did not get a hitter and all the major players coming back from injuries.
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 12:11 PM EDT
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I'm really not that worried, I mean look at the Yanks every year they did make the post season, they did it with an atrocious April. Also the ONE april we were on fire we didn't make the post season at all ( 2005. ) My concerns are more that the injured guys coming back are trying too hard to prove themselves. perfect example in the game 3 against the Angels. Bases loaded, one out and Lowell at the plate. Instead of trying to get the run in as we saw by the swing and eventual pop up he was hitting to be a hero and hit it out of the ballpark. We are seeing way too much of that right now. Very little small ball which is what I think they should be playing as they get their timing down and adjust back to the season. As for Lester he started off the same way last year- he might just be a slow starter. |
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Re: Too soon to worry about the Red Sox?
posted at 4/14/2009 12:27 PM EDT
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Lead-off guy can't get on and there is no big bopper to protect Papi. Also, the shortstop position is, for lack of a better word, vacant. If Beckett and Lester don't rebound from these last two starts, this team is in trouble. |
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