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    Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative?

    Somebody may have already done this before but why are recent movies about Boston about Irish mobs and criminals. I mean look...... "The Town"-"Gone Baby Gone"- "The Departed"-"Mystic River"-"Boondock Saints"- "Southie"??? Even 1973's "The friends of Eddy Coyle." Has there ever been a comedy or drama that put Boston in a good light other then "Celtic Pride"(which was bad) and "Fever Pitch"(which was OK) I have lived in the Philly area since moving from Mass. and as bad as Philly gets stereotyped for bad fans and manners their movies have been more positive. "Trading Places"-"Philadelphia." I just find it too sterotypical of Boston and the Irish. I understand how Italian Americans feel about stereotypical mob movies. I don't know it just seems that it has been overdone. Does it bother anyone else? And have there been any positive movies about Boston?
     
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    Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative?

    Movies aren't made for subtlety; they're more like sledgehammers.  Besides, if one genre film works (i.e., makes money), then invariably more come along just like it.

    Any "positive" movies set in the area are usually in the suburbs, in our more picturesque seaside towns, or period pieces (and maybe one or two at Harvard).

    Then again, are there very many "positive" movies being made, period?  (The next area movie I can think of is about Lizzy Borden....)
     
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    Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative?

    In the recent movie with Mel Gibson it was the wealthy WASPs that were bad and the Irish Cop was honorable.

    In Good Will Hunting, the characters were tough but endearing.  I like tough but endearing.  Think about it, a poor Irish kid who is smahta than all of the rich kids at MIT.

    Besides, most if not all of the movies on your list were based on books.  I just read a comedy based in Boston.  Takes place during the blizzard of '78.  It's about these two pot heads who happen to be Irsih trying to score weed during the blizzard.

    Just be glad they haven't made "Black Mass" into a movie.  It's the real life story of Whitey's Irish mob in bed with Irish FBI agents.

     
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    @ greg

    Funny and to your point, but I was just thinking the other day how James Michael Curley might be due for the hollywood bio-pic treatment, i.e. "The Rascal King" of yore....

     
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    In Response to Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative? : Its called "The Last Hurrah", by Edwin O'Connor
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Saw it.  But the city and person are fictionalized, and the rest is kind of...tame.  Sorely in need of an update, IMO.

    I'm thinking more like the Huey Long or Harvey Milk biopics...warts and all....
     
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    Movies aren't made for subtlety; they're more like sledgehammers.  Besides, if one genre film works (i.e., makes money), then invariably more come along just like it. Any "positive" movies set in the area are usually in the suburbs, in our more picturesque seaside towns, or period pieces (and maybe one or two at Harvard). Then again, are there very many "positive" movies being made, period?  (The next area movie I can think of is about Lizzy Borden....)
    Posted by MattyScornD

    LOL. I did grow up in Fall River
     
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    In the recent movie with Mel Gibson it was the wealthy WASPs that were bad and the Irish Cop was honorable. In Good Will Hunting, the characters were tough but endearing.  I like tough but endearing.  Think about it, a poor Irish kid who is smahta than all of the rich kids at MIT. Besides, most if not all of the movies on your list were based on books.  I just read a comedy based in Boston.  Takes place during the blizzard of '78.  It's about these two pot heads who happen to be Irsih trying to score weed during the blizzard. Just be glad they haven't made "Black Mass" into a movie.  It's the real life story of Whitey's Irish mob in bed with Irish FBI agents.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover

    What 's the name of that book about the blizzrd? It sounds interesting.
     
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    In Response to Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative? : I'm with ya, but. READ it, and the Curley/Boston slant becomes more obvious.  Ditto Boland is clearly Curley's, Up-Up Kelly, for example. Plus, its hilarious. My dad (a Texan) gave the book to my mother's VERY Irish father.  Woulda been fine, had he not said it was funny.  My Grandfather considered it a history book. That marriage was doomed.
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Yes, the book is better and well-drafted; again, nuance does not tend to favor celluloid gladly.

    But then I look at an adaptation like Gangs of New York and can still appreciate the license taken with dates and names to tell the more salient tale of a rough point in the city's history.  Meanwhile, Asbury's book is more like a rough journal of dates, places and hearsay - intentional, but difficult to adapt and impossible to film.
     
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    Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative?

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    In Response to Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative? : Well said, we agree. Here's a thought.  Mumbles has indeed made Boston a very attractive location for Hollywood (MattBen didn't hurt). Maybe if anyone wanted to make a REAL Boston flick with names and numbers, City Hall would shut it down? Just a thought.  Dead pols only, maybe?  Ixnay on the Ulgersbay, , Itewhays, Inneranfays, Imasidays, ...ays? Ukakisday?  FWNay!
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    A valid thought, to be sure.  Provincialism can get the better of anyone's best intentions.  As far as epochal true stories go, Boston's bussing turmoil is tailor-made for film melodrama.  No doubt such a film would hurt a lot of tender sensibilities.

    There was a movie came out years ago called "City Hall", with Pacino as the mayor and John Cusack as his deputy.  Not a bad film, but not great either.  I always thought they kinda copped out by using New York City and that Boston would have been the better location.  The big apple is just too over-mythologized for its own good.
     
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    Re: Why are recent movies about Boston so dark and negative?

    P.S.  The comedy "Second Sight" was set/filmed in Boston. 

    (It was terrible, but still...)
     
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