Re: Analyze this equation: Taylor Swift=Bob Dylan
posted at 2/18/2014 5:11 PM EST
In response to yogafriend's comment:
In response to devildavid's comment:
My poor misunderstood thread. This is not about the specific comparison of Bob Dylan to Taylor Swift. It is about how we judge, label, and categorize musical artists using some sort of criteria but no one seems to know what the criteria are. I think the very popularity of artists and the reactiosn of their fans muddies the waters.
Those who see Dylan in a category beyond comparison yet say everthing is basd on opinion want to have their cake and eat it too. If we reduce everything to mere opinion, it becomes a numbers game. How many people like artist X and how many people's opinion is that artist X is a game changing philospher poet superst
ar and whatever other superlatives you want to add. It is one thing to like or dislike an artist and entirely another to deem them great or garbage.
If I say I don't like Bob Dylan's music there is nothing to discuss. That's merely my personal taste. It makes no judgement on the quality of his music.
If I say Bob Dylan's music is garbage that is another matter. Now I am saying that there is something qualitatively lacking with his music.
The question for me is: can every statement of opinion be reduced to like/dislike? And if so, what really is the point of my opinion or opinion in general?
So ultimately my approach has failed. I got your attention, but the discussion got hung up on the specifics instead of the general point I was really hoping to make. I guess some buttons are too hot to push.
This is a copout, I'm sorry to say.
You're attributing the "failure" of your approach to the shortcomings of the responses, apparently. "Hoping to make a general point" --- AND what exactly was your point? That opinions cannot be teased out of likes and dislikes?
I find that preposterous after what has been said in this thread. You seem to have gotten nothing out of the responses, which is a shame.
You waited until the responses came in, decided what "counted" and what should be "discounted" (unilaterally), and your final "analysis" is that your thread was "misunderstood" based on responses that were too "specific" to your question. Zilla spoke out (and wasn't the least bit unkind about Taylor Swift) re: the trend of making comparisons, and you never even responded to him. No offense, but you are either doing some heavy back-pedaling now, weren't transparent enough and/or simply had too much of an agenda without tasking us correctly in the first place. And TBH, I had a problem with the "fact" that you know little about Taylor Swift yourself, and this became a one-sided issue re: Bob Dylan. You win some, you lose some.
I did admit my failure. I was unable to attend to this thread properly. In some ways, however, it gave me a chance to address what I intended, if rather awkwardly.