Re: Best Punk Rock Bands: RS reader poll
posted at 8/5/2011 1:51 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Best Punk Rock Bands: RS reader poll
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Best Punk Rock Bands: RS reader poll : Not for nothin', but I'm quite certain that statement can be made by any metalhead about heavy metal. Try reading a metal forum (it's quite entertaining); they are a zealous group of fans who don't give a flying about fame, fortune, or popularity. Is this part of the "selling out" discussion? Or something else? I think JE has said it best: ultimately, does anyone really snub making a buck off their talent when they're playing the music they want to play? I am not the knowledge-leader here, but I'm not sure why punk would get classified this way (meaning, anti-fame, fortune, etc.) any more than other genres of rock, with the exclusion of pop. Seriously, the minute a band gets a following, doesn't it become a bit disingenuous to say that?
Posted by yogafriend[/QUOTE]
punk is the attitude, really. the thing is, a lot of "punk" bands very much draw from reggae influences. the attitude is very much the same, although it's a bit more angry (ha ha). the whole start-a-revolution mentality is taken right from reggae. now, when they start getting into the extremes (anarchy! anarchy!).
not to mention that ska is a big part of the punk movement. and ska is quite simply put generally a reggae style chord progression, played a lot faster and with the reggae style strum (upstrokes only, for the most part). punk and ska bands intertwine their playing often within the same song. it sounds great, and it makes it less monotonous with the change of pace and often the addition of horn sections, etc.
examples of this fusion
#1: Operation Ivy - Unitywww.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc3e_xN_JNc">www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc3e_xN_JNc
#2: Leftover Crack - Nazi White Trashwww.youtube.com/watch?v=jxG1STI3SDo">www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxG1STI3SDo
it's not so much making money off it, it's how you live your life regardless of if it makes a living for you in the long run. once the attitude of the songs change, the sound changes, and the music loses what made original fans be into it in the first place. now, whether it's worth it to gain more new fans and lose the old ones to make money? it depends if you love the music you're making and still believe in what you preach...from a punk standpoint, at least.
ONE LAST THING that is really interesting i think. i am surprised that nobody mentioned rancid, they were really important. they were founded by tim armstrong, who was formerly the guitarist for operation ivy. he is NOT related to billy joe armstrong of green day, but they do know each other. tim asked billy joe to join rancid when he formed them, but he declined to pursue green day (a wise choice). I believe they have collaborated, though.
anyone who has not seen the movie SLC Punk needs to asap.