Favorite Brit Songwriters

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    Favorite Brit Songwriters

    Favorite.  Not best.   Got it?  :)

    Here's a random list, INPO -- very far from comprehensive -- you don't have to make a selection from it by any means.   It's simply a starting point, comprised of names of some of the most obvious well-known song-writers.   May or not stray from your personal top choices, some of whom may be from a more contemporary era.  

    Your choices / (and mileage) may vary:

    Roger Waters
    John Lennon
    Paul McCartney
    David Bowie
    Kate Bush
    Eric Clapton
    Nick Drake
    Nick Lowe
    Elton John
    Paul Weller
    Ray Davies 
    Pete Townshend
    Chris Martin 
    Shane MacGowan *
    Morrissey
    Peter Gabriel
    Peter Green
    PJ Harvey
    Van Morrison **
    Mick Jagger 
    Syd Barrett
    Robert Plant
    Adele

    *Born in England.   Thank you.
    **Irish lad; but that's Brit family of origin.   Edited twice.  :D

     

    Any number, really -- but try to limit to the very top of your fave list.   What songwriters are tops with you?

     
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    Lennon & McCartney    

    Jagger & Richards

    Ray Davies

    Pete Townshend

    Van Morrison

    Elvis Costello

    Graham Parker

    Nick Lowe

    Joe Jackson

    Difford & Tillbrook

    Ian Dury

    Strummer & Jones

     

     
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    I can narrow my list down to four names without a great deal of thought.

    Lennon

    McCartney

    Townshend

    Davies

    If forced to choose just one I would have to go with Townshend, because of the epic scale of his best work.

    One name that you didn't list was Jimmy Page, presumably because he didn't write lyrics.  But he was a formidable writer and arranger of the music.

     
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    Lennon & McCartney    

    Jagger & Richards

    Ray Davies

    Pete Townshend

    Van Morrison

    Elvis Costello

    Graham Parker

    Nick Lowe

    Joe Jackson

    Difford & Tillbrook

    Ian Dury

    Strummer & Jones

     



    Very similar to mine.  I note the top two and bottom one;  in all three cases the whole vastly exceeds the sum of the parts, esp. the top one.

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Ray Davies is a god.  Probably my favorite 60s-era writer.

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     

    Add:

    Ian Curtis and Bernard Sumner

    Johnny Marr/Morrissey

    Robert Smith

    Roland Orzabal/Smith

    Matt Johnson

    Tennant/Lowe

    Richard Thompson

     

    Shane McGowan and Van Morrison are irish, not british.  

    And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

     

     

     
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    Shane was actually born in Enlgand but moved to Tiperrary Ireland at about one years old.

    To me there has never been a better songwriter than Shane

     

    I got Difford/Tillbrook (when they were drinking they were amazing)

    Elvis Costello (early years)

    Strumer/Jones

    Paul Weller

    Ian McCulloch

    Ian Curtis

    John Lennon

    Morrissey

    Nick Lowe

    Robert Smith

    Matt Johnson

    Patt Fish (the Jazz Butcher)

    Joe Jackson

     

     

     
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    Lennon

    McCartney

    Pete Townsend

    Jagger/Richards

    Strummer/Jones

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Ray Davies is a god.  Probably my favorite 60s-era writer.

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     

    Add:

    Ian Curtis and Bernard Sumner

    Johnny Marr/Morrissey

    Robert Smith

    Roland Orzabal/Smith

    Matt Johnson

    Tennant/Lowe

    Richard Thompson

     

    Shane McGowan and Van Morrison are irish, not british.  

    And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

     

     



    How could I forget Richard Thompson? Thanks for the reminder.

     
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    Damon Albarn

    Thom Yorke, Johnny Greenwood and Ed O'Brien

    Noel Gallagher

    PJ Harvey

    Marr, Morrissey

     

     

     
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    Add: 

    Ian Anderson

    Ben Ottewell

     

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Ray Davies is a god.  Probably my favorite 60s-era writer.

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     

    Add:

    Ian Curtis and Bernard Sumner

    Johnny Marr/Morrissey

    Robert Smith

    Roland Orzabal/Smith

    Matt Johnson

    Tennant/Lowe

    Richard Thompson

     

    Shane McGowan and Van Morrison are irish, not british.  

    And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

     

     

     



    Actually Van is from Belfast so he is British as well as Irish. {edit} Technically he's from the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", but Northern Irish are considered British

     

     
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    Re: Favorite Brit Songwriters

    Add:

    Cat Stevens

    George Harrison

    and Queen as a group  

     
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    Damon Albarn

    Thom Yorke, Johnny Greenwood and Ed O'Brien

    Noel Gallagher

    PJ Harvey

    Marr, Morrissey

     

     

     

    I'm waiting for Florence Welch.   Probably doesn't have the creds just yet,  to be in the top tier.   I can understand that.  :)   

     

    NOTE: FATM (edited) has grown on me quite a bit.  

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

    Thanks.  :)  I wish I could have thought of more women, but I was stalled mentally b/c I realized that many of my personal favorites are Canadian, Irish, and American, even though I know there are many Brit female songwriters held in high regard, high profile or not.   Even Annie Lennox is Scottish.  

    RE: Chris Martin.  Hahahaha!   I was almost going to ask if there was anyone on my "starter list" who didn't belong there, but you seemed to have caught that without my having to ask. 

     
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    Pete Shelley

    The Stranglers (most songs joint composing credits)

    John Lydon

     

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

     

     

    Thanks.  :)  I wish I could have thought of more women, but I was stalled mentally b/c I realized that many of my personal favorites are Canadian, Irish, and American, even though I know there are many Brit female songwriters held in high regard, high profile or not.   Even Annie Lennox is Scottish.  

    RE: Chris Martin.  Hahahaha!   I was almost going to ask if there was anyone on my "starter list" who didn't belong there, but you seemed to have caught that without my having to ask. 



    Scots are British, even if most don't want to be!

     
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    A few of mine:

    Tim Rice-Oxley (Keane)  
    Neil Tennant / Chris Lowe
    Elton John / Bernie Taupin (early)
    Joe Jackson
    Christine McVie (early FWM) 

    How about Sting?   Not top tier?  I heard he did a yoga dvd.  (just kidding -- but maybe he did for all I know).  :)

     
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    I'm waiting for Florence Welch.   Probably doesn't have the creds just yet, to be in the top tier.   I can understand that.  :)   

    NOTE: FMM has grown on me quite a bit.  



    Not quite, but in time.

    FMM...?

     

     
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    Sweet list, yogs...

    Costello is a big one for me.  One of the most literate writers ever.  His words can be kisses or daggers. 

    Paul Weller, too...damm near a genius.  Nick Lowe is up there.  

    Harrison should be up there, too.

     And Chris Martin belongs nowhere near this list, IMO.

     

     

    Thanks.  :)  I wish I could have thought of more women, but I was stalled mentally b/c I realized that many of my personal favorites are Canadian, Irish, and American, even though I know there are many Brit female songwriters held in high regard, high profile or not.   Even Annie Lennox is Scottish.  

    RE: Chris Martin.  Hahahaha!   I was almost going to ask if there was anyone on my "starter list" who didn't belong there, but you seemed to have caught that without my having to ask. 

     



    Scots are British, even if most don't want to be!

     



    Well, thanks for the clarification; while I am sorry for my own confusion and ignorance on who's who and their origin, I do feel somewhat vindicated, b/c I had always thought some of the names I've mentioned (including Lennox) were British.     Funny ... Scots don't wish to be British?   Most Americans don't wish to be American, either.  :)

     
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    NOTE: FMM has grown on me quite a bit.  

    Not quite, but in time.

     

    FMM...? 



    Florence and the Machine --- except I can see now that I meant FATM (ditz moment), and just edited Polar's post.   If there's anyone that has the initials FMM, I don't know who it is.  :D     Forum discussions were so positive, I decided to keep an open mind, and the result of that has been a positive for me, too.  

     

     
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    A few of mine:

    Tim Rice-Oxley (Keane)  
    Neil Tennant / Chris Lowe
    Elton John / Bernie Taupin (early)
    Joe Jackson
    Christine McVie (early FWM) 

    How about Sting?   Not top tier?  I heard he did a yoga dvd.  (just kidding -- but maybe he did for all I know).  :)


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    Yes yoga! Elton John & Bernie Taupin, Joe Jackson, Edwin Collins, Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze and as stated in another post all four members of Queen - they all wrote a number of top 10 hit's individually!

     
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    A few of mine:

    Tim Rice-Oxley (Keane)  
    Neil Tennant / Chris Lowe
    Elton John / Bernie Taupin (early)
    Joe Jackson
    Christine McVie (early FWM) 

    How about Sting?   Not top tier?  I heard he did a yoga dvd.  (just kidding -- but maybe he did for all I know).  :)



    Sting definitely has to be on the list.  He seems to irritate a lot of people but I don't think his talent is in question.  Especially as a writer.

     
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    Pete Shelley

    The Stranglers (most songs joint composing credits)

    John Lydon

     



    good call..

     
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    In response to yogafriend's comment:

    A few of mine:

    Tim Rice-Oxley (Keane)  
    Neil Tennant / Chris Lowe
    Elton John / Bernie Taupin (early)
    Joe Jackson
    Christine McVie (early FWM) 

    How about Sting?   Not top tier?  I heard he did a yoga dvd.  (just kidding -- but maybe he did for all I know).  :)

     


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    Yes yoga! Elton John & Bernie Taupin, Joe Jackson, Edwin Collins, Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze and as stated in another post all four members of Queen - they all wrote a number of top 10 hit's individually!

     



    Great call on the songwriters for Squeeze (and from those who mentioned them earlier in the thread) -- everyone loves Squeeze.    This is fun.  :)

    I probably should add Peter Towshend for my own fave list while I'm at it.  

     
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    A few of mine:

    Tim Rice-Oxley (Keane)  
    Neil Tennant / Chris Lowe
    Elton John / Bernie Taupin (early)
    Joe Jackson
    Christine McVie (early FWM) 

    How about Sting?   Not top tier?  I heard he did a yoga dvd.  (just kidding -- but maybe he did for all I know).  :)

     Sting definitely has to be on the list.  He seems to irritate a lot of people but I don't think his talent is in question.  Especially as a writer.

     Thanks re: Sting.   And fully agree re: Sting's propensity to irritate and alienate people over the years.  I can't add him to my own personal favorite list, but his song-writing talent does speak for itself -- he's an acclaimed musician / songwriter.  

    As for the manner he's fallen out of favor ... maybe he went the way of Bono re: social activism, humanitarian causes and philanthropy.   It's astonishing how bitterly critical people can be when a celebrity, let alone a rock musician, donates time, energy and money, to social causes; wait for the backlash to ensue.  ;-)

     

    OH, I just have to mention this, and am sure you (and maybe others) will appreciate it, in light of this thread:

    Last night, on the radio (not a classic rock station, but an excellent local Boston station that plays all manner of current / alt - indie / as well as classic gems mixed in) -- I heard the song, "Right Down the Line" by Gerry Rafferty.   Not sure why, but I really *listened* to the song, and was dumbfounded not only how gorgeous Rafferty's voice was, but also, what a beautiful song it is, and how close it sounded to a Beatles song; this, after hearing that song, countless times.  

    It took me aback so much that I looked Rafftery up later on, and in reading a mini-bio, was stunned.   Firstly, he died an untimely death 2 years ago, in January 2011; sadly, he self-destructed as a result of alcholism, and died of liver failure, even though he was sober at the time of his death.   He never could recover from the damage of years of drinking.   Also, he's Scottish -- so he belongs in this thread. 

    He's an intense example of a musician who did not feel comfortable with fame, and did not want to submit to the cult of personality motives of the record industry; he disliked the entire notion of being a celebrity and was ill-suited to it.  He wanted his artistic integrity to stay intact, he wanted success, but he did not want to submit to being fake in any way in order to sell records.  He was filled with disdain for the record industry.   

    Sorry for the long-winded appendix re: Rafferty, and if anyone is interested, you can google and read up yourselves.   When Raffterty died, his death was truly mourned.  They even named a street after him in his hometown of Paisley last year.  

    "Newspapers printed lengthy obituaries for the singer ... a full-page obituary in The Times summarized his career...  "As well as being a singer of considerable talent who at one time had the pop world at his feet, Gerry Rafferty was also a consummate songwriter, blessed with sensitivity and an enviable melodic flair that at its best recalled Paul McCartney ..."

     

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