Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

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    Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    From the NYPost.com:

    Over the years, Stone has dropped tens of thousands of dollars on his other hobby: automobiles. In his early days, he drove a Jaguar XKE he painted purple. There were Hummers, a London taxi and a beloved Studebaker, which Stone asked to have painted in exchange for this interview. (The Post declined.) A few years ago, he would cruise around LA on a bright-yellow, custom three-wheel chopper. He was known to give cars to friends.

    By 1980, the group’s popularity had declined enormously from its heyday. Stone appeared on an episode of “The Mike Douglas Show” and promised, “I’m going to do one more album real quick, and if it’s not instantly platinum, bye-bye.” Sly & the Family Stone’s 10th and final album, 1982’s “Ain’t But the One Way,” flopped. 

    Stone kept his word and mostly vanished. He was arrested a few times in the 1980s for cocaine possession and performed sporadically, but his days of sold-out shows and magazine covers were gone. A 1987 performance would prove to be his last for 19 years.

    He finally reappeared during a 2006 Grammy tribute, shuffling on stage, his posture hunched and his neck bent as a result of a fall he suffered at his home. He arrived midway through a medley of his classic hits, played the keyboard and sang for a few bars, waved, then inexplicably left the stage before the song concluded.

    Today, Sly is disheveled, paranoid -- the FBI is after him; his enemies have hired hit men. He refuses to let The Post into his camper, but, ever the showman, poses flamboyantly with a silver military helmet and a Taser in front of his Studebaker.

    The singer claims his money troubles escalated in 2009, when his royalty payments stopped flowing after Stone accused his manager, Jerry Goldstein, of fraud. Stone says he was tricked into signing a rotten contract with Goldstein in 1989, giving the manager control of his finances in exchange for a weekly paycheck.

    Last year, Stone sued Goldstein for $50 million, alleging fraud and 20 years of stolen royalty payments. (Contributing to the singer’s dire financial situation, he foolishly sold his valuable music-publishing rights to Michael Jackson for a reported $1 million in 1984.)

    Goldstein did not return calls seeking comment.

    The performer’s cash-flow problems forced him out of his Napa Valley house that he rented with money from a 2007 European tour and into cheap hotels and the van in 2009. Stone hopes to soon put the lawsuit and his other woes behind him.

    “My music is a format that will encourage you to have a song you won’t forget. That’s why I got so much money, that there are so many people around, and that’s why I am in court. Millions of dollars!” Stone says. “But now please tell everybody, please, to give me a job, play my music. I’m tired of all this s--t, man.”

    Earlier this year, Stone released an album of his hits re-recorded with other artists. Stone has new songs, but he no longer trusts record companies or managers and is wary about making a deal to release another album. He works constantly on new music, often staying up for two days straight, then sleeping for the next two. (In a nice piece of symmetry, some of his 1971 album, “There’s a Riot Goin’ On,” was recorded in a Winnebago.) He has hundreds of new tracks recorded in his van that he keeps for himself. For now, at least.

    “But, with new energy, it will feel good to step on stage,” he says. “I see all the guys playing those old songs. Let these guys know, like Lady Gaga, let me come in, just let me come in and pay me if you like it.”

     
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Thanks for posting...but it's a little hard to know what to make of this, if true.  (It IS the Post.)

    Through our creative history, many great artists have died penniless only to have their genius revealed in context of their legacy.  This is not an excuse but an explanation.  For the most part, artists are not business-people and as mentioned elsewhere here, many artists have succumbed to shady business dealing...in addition to their own myopia.

    If I recall correctly, Elvis was quite unhinged toward the end....
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Yeah,it's pretty sad to see this.I liked a lot of his stuff.There's much more to the article along with a few pictures if you're interested.Here's a link to read the whole article from NYPost.com:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_rise_and_fall_of_sly_stone_qijyKoYzmAqer1PA0YogSJ
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    It just goes to show celebrity and talent can be a fleeting thing.

    Too many talented people thought their talent would see them through and sadly people like O.J. Simpson and Dwight Gooden , who were at one time, 'bigger than Jesus' are where they are today.

    Sounds to me as if Sly Stone , who is a huge pioneer in music, wasn't too business savvy. He must have had enough cash to seek advise from someone who was, wouldnt you think?

    Many Sports and Music personalities make bad choices, some wake up ( Eric Clapton) before it ruins them others don't.

    I hope Sly gets his life back, I really hate hearing stuff like this.
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Sorry, zilla, but I don't agree. 

    Yes, celebrity is artificial and can be fleeting, but it can also endure despite a lack of talent, whereas talent can exist without celebrity.  That nobody might hear it is purely coincidental.  Granted, it's part of the artist's job to get the material out there, but the creative process many times precludes such a task.

    Now, in this case, perhaps Sly's initial success was due to the people and talents with whom he surrounded himself.  Many artistic "geniuses" resemble this paradigm.  Taken a step further, perhaps Sly even started to believe the "genius" talk and think he couldn't fail despite himself.  He was wrong.

    As for his business dealings, it's just as easy for a hired hand to steal one's money.  Again, I'm not excusing his behavior, but there just may be more to it than we realize.
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Sly and the Family Stone created some groundbreaking music. Too bad for Sly he fell into the trap of far too many musical performers; drug abuse. This story has played out so often it's a sad cliche and the lessons have never really been learned. Creating music shouldbe enough of a high, but it seems it isn't for too many. I guess when accompanied by fame and riches, the temptations are too much for most. The rock and roll lifestyle is a sad cliche that too many celebrate to this day. We too often mythologize the lives of rock stars and gloss over the sadness and deep tragedy of many of those lives.

    It is hard for me as a fan of rock music to accept its dark side. The musicians have brought me much happiness, but I wish they didn't have to pay such a great personal price.
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Love the Family Stone, but they put on the second worst show I ever saw. Sly was so wasted, he was singing the lyrics to the wrong songs.
     
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    Re: Funk legend Sly Stone homeless and living in a van

    Is he still in Oakland? I'd like to try and find him and get him into a jam session.
     
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