Re: Gene Simmons:
posted at 3/20/2014 1:30 PM EDT
In response to devildavid's comment:
Every artist you name in your above post is acceptable under the term 'Rock'N'Roll'...I will list them again (in order) for those who do not wish to reread your reply.
In response to ZILLAGOD's comment:
I can't post further right now as there is this little matter called work that I must get back to, I would love to continue, I'm just out of time for today.
'CLEAR CUT AND OBVIOUS' is possibly not always as clear cut and obvious as I believe it is... I agree.
I am debating purely from a point of view that eludes most music fans. Sorry, but I cannot look at it any other way.
I believe that Deep Purple is a great band...and millions agree. I believe they are more influential than KISS and Guns'N'Roses.....but all are Rock bands. This is true.
You are debating from your point of view and I am debating from mine. What makes yours more accurate than mine or vice versa? What qualifies as rock music in your view is only your view. It is not an objective fact. The rock music from the 50's is not the same as what followed it. It changed and evolved and branched out in many different ways. There is no one type of music called rock music. Buddy Holly's music is not equal to Metallica's. Both fall under the rock 'n' roll umbrella. Same with Little Richard and Jimi Hendrix. And Elvis Presley and Marilyn Manson; Rick Nelson and the Ramones; Jerry Lee Lewis and Bob Dylan. Get the picture? How do you know where to draw the line? Is everything The Beatles recorded rock 'n' roll by your definition? Their recordings run the gamut from basic 50's style rock to complex studio created rock. That's the beauty of rock music. It defies a strict and narrow definition. It branches out into seemingly countless variations. It knocks down walls and breaks through barriers. Just because one may not enjoy one of rock's variations does not mean it is not rock music.
Jerry Lee Lewis
Let me start by saying that I don't say I am completely disagreeing with your points of view. I thought by saying that I cannot view this point as an "average listener" , which is what I meant. None of us here are "average" ...if there is such a thing.
This museum is attempting ro reach the masses. They do not stay true to the theme which is Rock 'N'Roll music.....instead they go beyond to music that is "touched by" or "influenced by" Rock. Indeed the term "Rock Music" has been over-used, ,polluted and since the 80's ( the decade that ruined us...but that's another subject , for another time and maybe another place) it has changed to define anything that is under the umbrella of "popular music."
Of course, the Beatles "progressed" beyond Rock'N'Roll to become the first PROG ROCK band...not everything they did after Sgt. Pepper was Rock, or Prog. they did some Folky stuff (Rocky Raccoon), some Classical stuff ( Good Night), some Blues (Don't Bring Me Down, Yer Blues), some jazzy stuff ( Get You Into My Life). This is whay they were who they were....simply the best. But, they did start out as a Rock band and will always be considered under that heading first and last and always.
There are many bands that I like who are in the RRHOF...one of them is ABBA.....they were a fantastic POP band and they recorded , perhaps, the only DISCO song that I really like....'Dancing Queen.' Overplayed-yes. Rock 'N'Roll- sort of. Good music - no doubt in my mind. Do they belong in a ROCK 'N'ROLL Hall Of Fame?...not from where I'm sitting, Jack.
This is what gets me on my high horse....and I am not saying right or wrong, just what I believe to be a total shame:
Not in RRHOF:
How many top selling albums did Foriegner have in the 70s and 80s?...how many Journey songs do you hear daily on classic Rock stations?.....how many Heavy Metal fans were growing up when the mighty Iron Maiden defied the experts of the 80s who said the genre was "dead?"
Don't misunderstand me.
I love Neil Diamond's music....'Brooklyn Roads' is a really nice song...a favorite....and I have a couple of his GH Cds.
But this guy is not a ROCK ARTIST....neither is ABBA, and the others are all brilliant at what they do. It just isn't what we call ROCK.....Foriegner is ROCK. Rush adn Deep Purple whoe were ignored for so long are ROCK, why is Madonna who started later, in first?
Put all the ROCK bands that should be honored in....then progress to offshoots and other genres.....that would be a better process.
Yes, Nick Lowe should be in there...what in hell are they thinking? Of course everything he's done except 'Cruel To Be Kind' has been forgotten already. Dave Edmunds should be honored also....the two were the centerpieces of the great Rockpile, the best Rock'N'Roll band most of your freinds have never heard about.
Lyrics of the day:
From the song 'Oh, Well' by the great Peter Green of the original Fleetwood Mac:
"don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to"
From Graham Parker:
"hey Lord, don't ask me questions....there ain't no answer in me."