Re: General catch-all music discussion
posted at 1/6/2013 5:21 PM EST
In response to devildavid's comment:
While I might concede that drugs could enhance creativity, I'm not so sure drugs would help improve technical skill. Some types of drugs may help keep you alert and focused, but practice is probably the most important factor in improving technical skill.
Sorry, but I feel you missed my point; additionally, I made no assertions, and am not trying to convince anyone here, so you have no need to concede (or not). :)
In my last post, I just wanted to backtrack to my original point which was that athletes and musicians have different issues at stake when they take a so-called PED--- and this was all in fun reference to the two Halls and their induction processes, with the PED issue having made the induction process in baseball deeply contentious. The Rock Hall's issues are not in any way comparable (even though the issues are valid).
The word is enhance, not a produce. Enhancer. Under no circumstances is the implication that an average athlete will become a Roger Clemens from taking a PED, but that a Roger Clemens (or Roger himself ...) would become an even *more* stupendous ball player juicing up with a PED. It's an actual scientific fact, and not debateable on any level, that anabolic steriods make muscle cells grow faster and larger, and also, that they are harmful to one's health when used unregulated and obsessively. They serve as a supplement -- an enhancer -- to an athlete, who already has talent. Skill has to be there in the first place.
Insofar as musicians are concerned, the drugs may be of a different variety, but the same is true: they are enhancers, not producers of talent, creativity or technique, etc.
You seem to have an "either / or" view here. You see this in a monochromatic light, and I don't, and I don't think Hfx does, either, if he doesn't mind my saying so.
In my "maybe" inference re: technical skills, your interpretation was that I meant the skills could be derived from taking drugs, and precludes the idea one has to practice. Well, that's not what I meant, and I apologize for lack of clarity. Again, getting back to the enhancement ... the implication is that a drug taken accompanied with a practice session or rehearsal, has the potential to increase technical skills, not the drug substituting for having to practice one's craft.
Drugs such as pot heighten sensory awareness; therefore, heightening the sense of hearing and touch, for example. It's highly possible from that standpoint, during practice, that heightening the senses would or could, put focus on technique. I'm not asking you to "concede" or not .... becaus I'm not trying to convince you of anything. But I certainly never meant to imply drugs preclude the need for practicing or developing on the whole. No way. :)
I use the whole gestalt. I don't see how you can discuss something like this on the basis of individual elements; my mind doesn't work that way. I don't need closure, I don't need all the information to be filled in to be comfortable ... I am fine with the open-endedness. Hope you are, too. :)
You know, I live a very healthy lifestyle. So this is all in context of the forum and rock music history, of course.
But do remember, rock music back in the day was performed and created while many (not all) musicians were high as kites. The drums, guitars, keyboards were not playing themselves ... humans were playing them. That's all I have to say.
I have a nice addition to this thread, with a vastly different spin on "enhancement" ... more soon / later.