Re: Good music, bad music
posted at 2/13/2013 2:54 PM EST
In response to SonicsMonksLyresVicars' comment:
In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
And now, I suppose, should this be restricted to rock?
I'm not aware of Yo Yo Ma, Rostropovich, Pearlman, or Heifetz of ever writing anything. But they were grand masters of their art: performance.
Yes, we've only been discussing rock music. Re classical music, why is it that modern composers are not considered - at least by laymen - to be able to reach the heights of the masters of 1-3 centuries ago? Is it really possible composers could not reach or exceed the level of Mozart, Bach, etc? If so, why? Or is it just snobbery i.e. assuming the masters are beyond our meagre talents?
In reading classical music forums fairly often in the recent past, their discussions are not unlike the discussions of other music -- by era, sub-genre, etc. I don't see many discussing actual quality
differences from century to century. I've even seen threads where the discussions are for a specific decade, let alone a century.
So I think you're making a very broad generalization in your question.
I did bring this up in another thread re: best music. The "general, bests" lists continue to state that the 3 B's (Beethoven, Bach, and Brahams) continue to be in the top 5, of "all time" but that's like saying The Beatles, Stones, and Led Zepp are consistently in the top 5 rock bands of all time. Does it mean no one can or has been as good?
But again, you said "lay person" so that's what you're going to hear. If you can insist that there's plenty of good, if not great, contemporary rock music out there, there are plenty of people who feel the same way about contemporary classical music. People who know what it is, not lay people. And I think you need to define "contemporary" or "modern" because in classical terms, contemporary is probably since the 70's, but modern is probably close to the entire 20th century.
Saying that "laymen" think contemporary classical is not as good as the masters is synonymous with saying that "laymen" think that all contemporary rock music is bad -- or not as good as rock music from the classic 70's -- without qualification and in many cases, without even knowing much about it.
As you said earlier, they don't know what they don't know.