Re: Music and debate: Should the show go on?
posted at 4/4/2013 4:03 PM EDT
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to ZILLAGOD's comment:
I don't "get" Rap. And as all the regulars all know, it is difficult for me to comment objectively on any thread that has Rap as part of the subject.
Rap has a target audience, and I am not part of that audience. It is and always has been aimed at urban teens ( first mainly Blacks, then eventually including Hispanics, Whites and any other kid that felt "uncool" by not listening to it).
Rap is obviously aimed at a lower I.Q. , a segment of our community that mostly embraces all the wrong things , violence, sex and sexist views, guns, more guns, and more decadent sex.
If my father was alive ( gone since 1986) , I wonder what he would say.....this is a guy who thought The Beatles had hair that was too long back in 1962 ( when it barely touched their ears)...I don't think he was too fond of "hippy music" ( I loved it though, but certainly not the lifestyle).
Rap is part of our culture, I am sad to say , a culture that embraces violence ,and sexist views....among other bad things....it's long since time that our society moved on to something else, but I am afrad that " something else" may be another step backwards or downwards into the black hole society seems to love so much.
You seem to have become your father.
And you're right...you don't know anything about rap.
Zilla, you and I have a lot in common, music-wise, but sorry...I find your post just uninformed on many levels.
It's not required to be a fan of rap to understand that art and music borne of a culture does not necessarily glorify the worst aspects of that culture.
That's like saying the blues glorifies satanism, infidelity and crimes of passion.
You say "you seem to have become your father" like this is a bad thing.
I respected my dad, didn't always agree with him.
But, even though I listened to ( and still do ) Punk, Heavy Metal and Psychedlic music.... I never embraced the lifestyle of any of those music styles.
When Rap music is played, I usually turn it off, change the channel or do whatever possible do avoid listening to this trash. When , on occasion, I can't avoid it... the lyrics ( if you want to call them that) have nothing good to say, I hear references to women as if they are cattle. References to cops as if they are the enemy....well sure there are some bad ones...but seriously, do we need this in music?...if you want to call it music.
Rap is a repetitive , annoying beat with spoken social commentary. I will never refer to it as music or art.
A child's finger painting is not considered fine art....why is Rap ( which takes absolutely zero talent) be considered an art form?
Maybe I have become my father. Thank you. Maybe more young people today should respect their parents....although if their parents are drug addicts, amybe not.