Re: Music and Religion/Music as Religion
posted at 5/22/2013 11:13 AM EDT
In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
In response to yogafriend's comment:
You think too much. :)
Know the story of Joan of Arc? :) If not, check it out. She's a heroine to many.
I largely agree, but I tend to think it depends on the believer. After all, there are people very deep in analytic/logical fields - cosmologists, physicists, etc. - who are religious(Einstein himself, no less).
I have to believe that they puzzle over the logic of their beliefs without abandoning them. Hell, I don't believe and I'm constantly finding myself re-analyzing my positions on the religious front in general.
I've obviously made my own feelings on this front clear, but I'm curious to know whether they occur to someone who is religious. Particularly where there are people whose lives are raw analytics, and yet who also believe.
I didn't (mean to) imply that only one side of the brain should or could be used to have a belief system that includes God. I was addressing what you said in a previous post re: what seemed to put the stress / focus on proof, that's all. I, for one, don't find it hard to understand that a scientist (of any variety) could or would have a belief system that includes God, because it is ultimately a personal decision. As for Einstein, he did not believe in a personal God, although he is the most famous example of a scientist who believes; he did not, however, believe in God on the human intervention level, "who concerns himself with fate and actions of human beings" -- so you see, Einstein carved out his own meaning and definition, he didn't speak the "party line" through organized religion. I suspect other hard core scientists might also write their own definition, depending on the era they lived, and other circumstances.
Einstein was not religious. You seem to conflate the notion of believing in God with being religious. Belief in God is only one piece of the puzzle, not the whole puzzle. Sorry if I am misinterpreting, but this is what I see in the way you've expressed your opinions.
If you puzzle over "all this", then you must like the mental exercise. Or, it's a topic you like to toss around. You can't prove love exists, either, yet you are married. Staying married doesn't prove it either, because there are people who believe that it's fine to marry multiple times in life, since everyone changes over time. You can't prove someone will be a "good" doctor just because they have a diploma from a medical school, either. Passing a test doesn't mean you have all the human traits that will make you a true healer. You can't prove many things in this life. Not too many guarantees, either. Could drive yourself insane thinking about the lack of proof in this world.
I accept that no one, not one single person, is the same from day to day. Not your body, not your soul, not your heart, not your mind -- nothing. You cannot replicate any day, any feeling, any thought. Each day, to a certain extent, a new beginning. (unless you are Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day" :) ).
A feeling might reside in you every day day, but it may be more profound the next day, less so another. In yoga, a person might notice that they are taking a pose to the next level, by taking it more deeply; the pose doesn't change, but the focus changes. You may think you are "right" one day, and the next day feel uneasy that you made a mistake. Spending too much of your time pondering all of the "what ifs" and "what so evers" on any given day, you may miss out on something beautiful that's right in front of your face. I don't want to go "all Yoga" on you ... (sorry, just kididng) but living in the present moment might answer more of your questions than all the thinking you do in a month. Quieting your mind is not as easy as it sounds -- and if you don't think it sounds easy, then you're right. :) Peace.