Pitchfork's best music of the decade so far

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    Pitchfork's best music of the decade so far

    Pitchfork recently put out lists for the best songs and albums of the decade so far.


    Any thoughts or reactions to the lists? Surprises? Something too high or too low on the lists?


     


    http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/


     


    http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9465-the-top-100-albums-of-2010-2014/1/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9465-the-top-100-albums-of-2010-2014/1/


     

     
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    It's official, music's dead or I died and I'm currently living in Kanye hell.

     
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    I think Kanye is a love him or hate him kind of artist. By all accounts he's an arrogant jerk, but for me he makes great music. My favorite of his is still his debut, College Dropout, but the album that is no. 1 of the decade on the list, MBDTF, is also very good. The one he released last year, Yeezus, was a change in style because it was a more aggressive, Industrial style hip hop.

    If you're not a Kanye or hip hop there's still been plenty of good music of the decade so far. My criticism of the list is that it is too hip hop and indie rock/pop centric. But there are plenty of good choices for just about any genre.

    I would have liked to have seen Kaleidoscope Dream by Miguel higher on the list, it's one of my top 5 of the decade so far. The latest Sufjan Stevens album, The Age od Adz, I don't think was on the list at all, and that's also a favorite.

    Like any list it's a good starting point, but definitely not as varied as it should be and missing some key choices.

     
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    As someone who used to post lists on a fairly regular basis (especially at the end of any given year), I have burned out on them, and because of the proliferation of lists in general, they all blur together and have lost their power and meaning.   I mean, do I care what the picks of the Pitchfork staff are, when they don't even give any criteria for their selections?


    And no offense, because it's no fault of the OP, but when lists were put into sections of 5 on a page, that go on for 10 or more pages, with far too much text (do you need that much of an explanation for a SINGLE track?), they lose me, and I feel like a moron sitting there because the truth is ... I don't care enough to bother.  And since I don't want to feel like more or a moron than normal (!), I skip to just the top 10 or so. 


    As for the albums that I browsed through, there is no rhyme nor reason to their choices, and I find no solace or satisfaction seeing any albums that I like or own on their list (ie, Beach House, LCD Soundsystem).   


    I agree that the use of a list can bring an album or artist to a person's attention, but it takes a lot of persistence, interest, and trust that the list you're looking at is worth the time and trouble.   And yes, the list appears to be heavy on hip hop and rap, but that makes sense, b/c that it is the most popular music.   I can't say whether Beyoncé "belongs" on a "best" list or a "our faves" or "staff picks" list, and I am not willing to listen to any of her entire albums to find out.  :P


    In general, the list is a sign of the times, but it doesn't mean there is something lacking on anyone's taste if they dislike or don't listen to any of this music; only time will tell how much of this music will be truly emblematic of the decade we're in, and how much of it will be considered total crap in years to come.    Not that there wasn't any "crap" from the former decades, mind you.  


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    I'm a sucker for lists. I like making them, and I like reading them. I barely skimmed the singles list because I always try to listen to albums and pay little attention to singles, besides the ones I know from the albums. I'll always look from the top of the list down to see the first few albums I haven't heard. In this case it was Channel Orange. I've been meaning to check it out and this just moves it closer to the top of the list of things to check out.

    For me what makes a good list is being varied, and this list really isn't. It seems like most of the picks were safe picks and they are really just giving back to their readers exactly what they were expected to do. Meaning, there's such a thing as being "P4k approved", when an album gets a 'best new music' tag from Pitchfork people will automatically check it out and usually agree. Not a surprise to see that most of the choices on the albums list originally had that tag. Not that there's a lot of bad choices on the list, because there are a lot of great picks on the list. Just that, a lot of the picks were originally reviewed favorably, their readers agreed, and now those same choices are regurgitated back to the readers who agreed with the site to begin with.

    As much as I love hip hop and love that they usually have a lot of hip hop on their lists, their hip hop picks are boring. They are predictable and seem like they are just trying to jump on the "it's cool to like hip hop" bandwagon. For as much criticism as the list deserves, I will still go out of my way to listen to the albums highest up on the list that I haven't heard yet. So for that I will give it credit.

     
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    In response to tcal2-'s comment:


    It's official, music's dead or I died and I'm currently living in Kanye hell.





    It did seem rather hip-hop, Kayne in specific, heavy....   

     
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    I used to think I'd always stay "hip" and in the know about popular music. Skimming through that list tells me otherwise. Who are those performers? Do their songs get played on the radio?

    Aging definitely had more impact on me than I expected. I have no interest in spending the time trying out any of these new performers. It doesn't mean I think they aren't any good, i just don't care about keeping up to date any more. I don't even have enough ambition to keep up with all the music in my CD collection. It's funny to go through that list and really feel how old I've become.

     
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    To chime in with what others have said, I am simply not in their listener demographic.

     
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    I used to think I'd always stay "hip" and in the know about popular music. Skimming through that list tells me otherwise. Who are those performers? Do their songs get played on the radio?

    Aging definitely had more impact on me than I expected. I have no interest in spending the time trying out any of these new performers. It doesn't mean I think they aren't any good, i just don't care about keeping up to date any more. I don't even have enough ambition to keep up with all the music in my CD collection. It's funny to go through that list and really feel how old I've become.

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    I'm probably a good bit younger but already feel that way.

    I'm happy to try things out people suggest here, but with the relatively little time I have for pure entertainment activity, I don't want to invest the time searching for new artists myself.

     
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    As most things in life, you have to "take it from whence it comes" which is to say in this case, Pitchfork, which is known for the promotion of the music on the list, and that's why it is predictable (as mentioned above).

    All they did was take from their 2010-present list(s) and smush them together.  They didn't start from scratch.

    Most "lists" are at least subdivided, when the chips are down, ie, rock, "world", jazz, at the end of any given year, it's not as though all "best" music is hip hop, unless you live and breathe the music of "today" or Pitchfork's opinions and promotions.

    Otherwise, the "demographic" aspect makes sense, cheesh, I have a niece that I mentioned a while back that made the finals of a rap contest, she lives and breathes it.    All of her friends do, too.  She makes playlists for her friends, and had some published on the college webzine, and it was all rap and EDM (electronic dance music) performed by DJ's (ie, no musical talent  -- haha!)   

    There are loads and loads of classic rockers who made albums since 2010, and none of them are on Pitchfork's list, but who really cares?   NO ONE.  :D    It's not what they do.   If you saw a list on Rolling Stone, it would be entirely different, we all know this.

    Take it with a grain of salt, eh.   And/or for fun, which is mostly what I do at this point. 

    I love to look at lists of books, too, just for interest, fun, and curiosity.  

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    In response to devildavid's comment:
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    I used to think I'd always stay "hip" and in the know about popular music. Skimming through that list tells me otherwise. Who are those performers? Do their songs get played on the radio?

    Aging definitely had more impact on me than I expected. I have no interest in spending the time trying out any of these new performers. It doesn't mean I think they aren't any good, i just don't care about keeping up to date any more. I don't even have enough ambition to keep up with all the music in my CD collection. It's funny to go through that list and really feel how old I've become.

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    We've had the discussion on "hip" and decided that it means nothing, and/or has many definitions.

    I posted recently on an article in the Globe, taking a differing opinion from the idea that young people are the most "hip" stating that to me, older people are the most hip for the following reason: They don't care what anyone thinks of them, they don't care what anyone thinks of what they wear, what music they listen to, what kind of car they drive, or what zip code they live in.   They have "arrived".    That's what being hip is, and the older I get, the more I love and admire older people for that reason.    Very few young people have the psyche not to care what others think of them because they are still so self-conscious, it's not possible, and the ones who say that they "don't care" what anyone thinks of them, are *fully aware* they feel this way, so it sort of counter-acts the idea that they don't care.  :D

    What is hip?  Knowing who the rappers are, or the current music?  No, that is just a knowledge based on your age group.   Has no bearing on being hip, IMO.     

     
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    as far as albums on the list I've heard that people here might like


     


    Lost in the Dream by The War on Drugs - https://open.spotify.com/album/14xxjLlbGy8ACm4MorBjD5" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/album/14xxjLlbGy8ACm4MorBjD5


     


    Benji by Sun Kil Moon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtndQzCUEY4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtndQzCUEY4


     


    Halcyon Digest by Deerhunter - https://open.spotify.com/album/1HUMjB15ARg96KIypcGzYY" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/album/1HUMjB15ARg96KIypcGzYY


     


     


     


     

     
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    I used to think I'd always stay "hip" and in the know about popular music. Skimming through that list tells me otherwise. Who are those performers? Do their songs get played on the radio?

    Aging definitely had more impact on me than I expected. I have no interest in spending the time trying out any of these new performers. It doesn't mean I think they aren't any good, i just don't care about keeping up to date any more. I don't even have enough ambition to keep up with all the music in my CD collection. It's funny to go through that list and really feel how old I've become.

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    Hi DD.  F*ck "hip"!  Anyone who thinks they are "hip" or "cool" is by definition not hip or cool simply by virtue of their attempt to "be" something.  As for "Do their songs get played on the radio?" the less I comment on that the better.  ;-)

    If one has lost interest in finding new music, books, porn stars, etc. that's ok...it's up to them.  IMO, it doesn't imply they are "unhip" though the thought of such a state terrifies me. But why would one care what a judgmental hipster thinks about their taste in art?

    x

     
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    I just meant hip as keeping up to date with the latest thing. Just knowing what the kids are into. That kind of hip. I really have little awareness of the latest in pop culture, for better or worse. I always thought I would keep up with that sort of stuff, but I guess getting older has decreased my interest in youth and the interests of youth. I guess also because I never had any kids of my own this was bound to happen.

     

     
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    I agree on the promotional aspect of Pitchforks message. Take a look at the lineups for the last few Pitchfork festivals, and you will see many of the same names. At least they know their audience, unlike many of the other festivals we have discussed. There are about 3 or four albums on that list that I own, or would even be interested in.  There are some serious omissions imo like Tramp, by Sharon Van Etten and Muchacho by Phosphorescent.

     
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    I agree on the promotional aspect of Pitchforks message. Take a look at the lineups for the last few Pitchfork festivals, and you will see many of the same names. At least they know their audience, unlike many of the other festivals we have discussed. There are about 3 or four albums on that list that I own, or would even be interested in.  There are some serious omissions imo like Tramp, by Sharon Van Etten and Muchacho by Phosphorescent.

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    The very first album I thought of as an omission was Muchacho, and I'm glad you thought to mention it, but I wasn't feeling serious enough to do so, and in keeping with my comment above, I did take the list from whence it came.  I didn't feel it was worth the trouble (even if it remains one of my top albums in the last 5 years, and I do believe it was on a bestie list the year it was released; I did a thread on Phosphorescent a while back, I like him and the album *that* much).  

    As for the albums, I'd say these artists are the only ones whose albums I either own, or who interest me the most:

    PJ Harvey
    Real Estate
    Beach House (one of my favorite groups; the writeup re: Pitchfork saying they are up there with the National was  a real head scratcher and made no sense to me)
    Kurt Vile
    LCD Soundsystem
    *Also Deerhunter has potential, too.

    I do own Sun Kil Moon's  "Ghosts of the Great Highway", and like it very much, but I doubt I'll buy another SKM album.   I have no interest in his latest album (horrible topic and premise), and if I feel that I want to hear that voice, I'd far prefer to just buy another Neil Young album to add to my collection.  :)   NOTE: SKM's Mark Kozelek's voice has an uncanny resemblance to Neil Young's voice. 

     
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    No Radiohead or Coldplay albums ... Mmmmm. It's official that list is garbage. By the way, it used to be cool to be in the know as to what the latest albums were. No more. Album #164 "Queen Of Hearts" on Rich's link, the artist's name sums it up ... F'd Up.

     
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    Pitchfork recently put out lists for the best songs and albums of the decade so far.

     

    Any thoughts or reactions to the lists? Surprises? Something too high or too low on the lists?

     

     

     

    http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/

     

     

     

    http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9465-the-top-100-albums-of-2010-2014/1/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9465-the-top-100-albums-of-2010-2014/1/" rel="nofollow">http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9465-the-top-100-albums-of-2010-2014/1/

     

     

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    I don't have to look to know I'd hate the few I know.  Among my friends we think of Pitchfork as Hipster Hell.

     
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    I just meant hip as keeping up to date with the latest thing. Just knowing what the kids are into. That kind of hip. I really have little awareness of the latest in pop culture, for better or worse. I always thought I would keep up with that sort of stuff, but I guess getting older has decreased my interest in youth and the interests of youth. I guess also because I never had any kids of my own this was bound to happen.

     

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    I honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to keep up with the latest thing.  Can't people think for themselves?  Find bands/books/films that aren't shoved down their throats by the likes of Pitchfork?

    There's a big ad campaign here this week by a major women's clothing company trumpeting their new range of '60s-looking clothing.  Now I have many friends heavily into various '60s scenes and many of them dress in vintage '60s clothes all the time.  Because they want to.  I think they look great.

    And then there are those that are going to buy a watered-down version from a high street chain because it's the new big thing for a couple of months.  Pitiful.

     
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    I don't have to look to know I'd hate the few I know. Among my friends we think of Pitchfork as Hipster Hell.

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    lol Ok. I'm not a fan of pitchfork myself, though their end of the year list of albums is usually among the best. Any music list is just a starting off point for artists, genres, etc. that you may have missed. I've heard about half of the albums list and am not in a rush to listen to those I've missed.

     

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    I honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to keep up with the latest thing.  Can't people think for themselves?  Find bands/books/films that aren't shoved down their throats by the likes of Pitchfork?

    There's a big ad campaign here this week by a major women's clothing company trumpeting their new range of '60s-looking clothing.  Now I have many friends heavily into various '60s scenes and many of them dress in vintage '60s clothes all the time.  Because they want to.  I think they look great.

    And then there are those that are going to buy a watered-down version from a high street chain because it's the new big thing for a couple of months.  Pitiful.

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    Why does it matter where anyone gets the recommendation from? If someone out there listens to Deerhunter, LCD Soundsystem, or Kendrick Lamar because of this list, isn't that a good thing?

    What do you mean by not imagining why anyone would want to keep up with the latest thing? There's a quote from The Simpsons where Homer says "Why do you need new bands. Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact." lol I hope that's not what you're saying.

    There's good music and good movies being released all the time. I don't know how much it has to do with thinking for yourself because people find things however they want to. Unless you live under a rock under the ocean anything you choose to listen to is a recommendation from somewhere. From a friend, a magazine, website. etc. There's a reason why you chose to set aside time to listen to it. It's about the music itself not where the recommendation came from.

     
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    I don't have to look to know I'd hate the few I know. Among my friends we think of Pitchfork as Hipster Hell.

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    lol Ok. I'm not a fan of pitchfork myself, though their end of the year list of albums is usually among the best. Any music list is just a starting off point for artists, genres, etc. that you may have missed. I've heard about half of the albums list and am not in a rush to listen to those I've missed.

     

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    I honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to keep up with the latest thing.  Can't people think for themselves?  Find bands/books/films that aren't shoved down their throats by the likes of Pitchfork?

    There's a big ad campaign here this week by a major women's clothing company trumpeting their new range of '60s-looking clothing.  Now I have many friends heavily into various '60s scenes and many of them dress in vintage '60s clothes all the time.  Because they want to.  I think they look great.

    And then there are those that are going to buy a watered-down version from a high street chain because it's the new big thing for a couple of months.  Pitiful.

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    Why does it matter where anyone gets the recommendation from? If someone out there listens to Deerhunter, LCD Soundsystem, or Kendrick Lamar because of this list, isn't that a good thing?

    What do you mean by not imagining why anyone would want to keep up with the latest thing? There's a quote from The Simpsons where Homer says "Why do you need new bands. Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact." lol I hope that's not what you're saying.

    There's good music and good movies being released all the time. I don't know how much it has to do with thinking for yourself because people find things however they want to. Unless you live under a rock under the ocean anything you choose to listen to is a recommendation from somewhere. From a friend, a magazine, website. etc. There's a reason why you chose to set aside time to listen to it. It's about the music itself not where the recommendation came from.

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    Hi Rich.  Your points are strong, I agree with them all, but they don't represent my view.

    1) IMO it doesn't matter where a recommendation comes from, unless all of one's recommendations come from the same sort of homogeneous, corporate sources.

    2)  By "latest thing" I meant latest trend, latest hipstery must-see.  Who cares what (allegedly) is popular or the Next Big Thing?  To whom?  Yeah yeah yeah, Bo Diddley, the Beatles, James Brown and Husker Du were great (IMO).  I have all their records...but I'm much more interested in things that are new to me.  A few weeks ago on a Wednesday I heard of a band for the first time, saw them on the Friday because I'm friends with the band they were playing with.  Los Bengala (from Zaragoza) became one of my favourite bands in under 10 minutes.  This is just their intro:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILzCkyPaMqc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILzCkyPaMqc.  

    3)  You wrote "people find things however they want to".  That's my main point;  most people don't want to make the effort...which is exactly what the Simpsons writers were lampooning.  :-)

     
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    To chime in with what others have said, I am simply not in their listener demographic.

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    F**k "their listener demographic"!  I'm not their target audience either and I thank my family and friends for that.  The options stretch into the infinite future if one cares enough to try.  And it's fine if you don't...but it's there if you do.

    My 3 favourite bands of the moment?:

    We haven't signed Les GriGris yet because they aren't writing songs yet.  But they will.  http://www.dirtywaterrecords.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dirtywaterrecords.co.uk/

    [this isn't some pitiful sales pitch, they really are my three favourite bands at the moment]

     

     

     
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    Rich's points are well stated, however, everyone that uses a Pitchfork list (for example) isn't doing it in the same spirit that he may be.   Rich might use the list to discover a band, and it *happens* to be from Pitchfork; other people would only be using the list *because* Pitchfork is their compass for the cool, trendy, "best" music.  If Pitchfork says so ... then it must be true.   If it's not on Pitchfork's list ... forget it.  Note to Rich: this is not thinking for yourself. 

    It's very similar to clothing fashions; there are people who simply cannot buy anything unless it has a designer label in it.  They'll never tell you they wore a blue dress, they will say that they wore their Kate Spade dress. 

    It is in the same spirit as needing a "list" to benchmark music, and not getting into any music that hasn't appeared on a "best" list.  

    Not everyone uses lists (or labels) in this spirit, but far too many people do, and I believe that is what Sonics was referring to.   

     

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    I just think the act of "discovering" something pales in comparison to what is being discovered in the long run. I listened to an Iris Dement album a few weeks ago because my dad saw her in Worcester I think. I didn't really like it lol, but I listened to it because I respect his opinion. Yoga made a thread a while back about picking albums that represent your taste, or something like that, and I think it was HFXS picked BOC Secret Treaties as one of his albums and said it was sort of Hard/Psych Rock. That sounded good to me so I listened to it and really liked it. In the long run I doubt most people even remember where the get the recommendations from. If an artists or an album becomes your favorite, years from now you may not remember what prompted you to first listen to that artist or album.

    I just think the whole "keeping up with music" is strange because do people associate that with other art forms like movies, or books? Is watching movies that came out this year considered "keeping up with movies" the same way listening to the latest artists is considered "keeping up with music"? I doubt it, I'm not sure why. I wonder if it has to do with popular music being associated with the young. Popular music is constantly evolving and changing and you do need to "keep up" with it in a sense, but at the end of the day, it's just music. Listen to what you like and hopefully you enjoy it. On any list of albums, best of year, best of decade so far, etc. some of the picks will be from popular artists and some won't be. So it's not like listening to most of the albums on any list, even Pitchfork's, is listening to all "popular music". A lot of the albums on the Pitchfork list probably never made a dent in the Billboard chart, but they're on the list because they're good albums, and that's what it's about.

     
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    In response to Rich1273's comment:
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    I just think the act of "discovering" something pales in comparison to what is being discovered in the long run. I listened to an Iris Dement album a few weeks ago because my dad saw her in Worcester I think. I didn't really like it lol, but I listened to it because I respect his opinion. Yoga made a thread a while back about picking albums that represent your taste, or something like that, and I think it was HFXS picked BOC Secret Treaties as one of his albums and said it was sort of Hard/Psych Rock. That sounded good to me so I listened to it and really liked it. In the long run I doubt most people even remember where the get the recommendations from. If an artists or an album becomes your favorite, years from now you may not remember what prompted you to first listen to that artist or album.

    I just think the whole "keeping up with music" is strange because do people associate that with other art forms like movies, or books? Is watching movies that came out this year considered "keeping up with movies" the same way listening to the latest artists is considered "keeping up with music"? I doubt it, I'm not sure why. I wonder if it has to do with popular music being associated with the young. Popular music is constantly evolving and changing and you do need to "keep up" with it in a sense, but at the end of the day, it's just music. Listen to what you like and hopefully you enjoy it. On any list of albums, best of year, best of decade so far, etc. some of the picks will be from popular artists and some won't be. So it's not like listening to most of the albums on any list, even Pitchfork's, is listening to all "popular music". A lot of the albums on the Pitchfork list probably never made a dent in the Billboard chart, but they're on the list because they're good albums, and that's what it's about.

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    I think we're in violent agreement Rich!  I don't care what art other people like, and I don't care if anyone likes what I like.  I try not to label things I dislike and/or think are boring as bad e.g. Jackson Bollocks, Randy Borehole, Not You Too Again, ad nauseum et infinitum...I just get frustrated when people settle for low-hanging fruit.

     

     

     
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