Re: Recycled, re-worked and ripped-off riffs
posted at 2/11/2014 3:59 PM EST
In response to SonicsMonksLyresVicars' comment:
I make the point all the time to people that nobody is inventing any new notes (even assuming, as with mathematics, that notes are invented rather than discovered....I think it's discovered in both cases) and I find it hard to believe that after 100+ years of guitar-based blues and rock music played by millions of people there are newly invented riffs.
"Rip-off"? There are and should be laws to protect the original composer(s)....those laws should be much tighter, IMO. "Recycled"? That is or should be the legal version of a rip-off with credit given to the originator, I'm down with that. "Re-worked"? That's more interesting to me, and if the notes/riffs have been sufficiently altered to appear to a reasonable person not to be a rip-off, I'm down with that. But.....
Zeppelin, Led, have a deservedly bad rep IMO....make your own decision (too many to post, peruse http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=82341)
But there are so many other examples, of blues artists being ripped off.....e.g.:
- Muddy Waters "Mannish Boy": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgaxYEsEVVY
- David Bowie "The Jean Genie": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQo6zpVzt8
- The Sweet "Blockbuster": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgrYf7VWASE
I think those two songs are total rip-offs, and wildly, lazily, obviously so IMO....they're laughable, a disgrace.....however, I do not think George Thorogood's "Bad To The Bone" is a rip-off though some people do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9FyQNx8oyU
To use Hf's terminology, I think it's more of a reworking. I can hear the echo of Mannish Boy, who can't? But my ear tells me it's influence, not rip-off.
And just to make it more complicated, "Mannish Boy" was influenced by Bo Diddley's "I'm a Man" which had been influenced by Muddy's "Hoochie Coochie Man"