VH1's new Greatest List

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    I agree shumi in some respects, especially the issue surrounding perceived country artists. Hank Williams is also very important.

    The list is not specific to Rock and Roll, besides the fact that if RnR is an offshoot of the Blues, then R&B artists must be included. And Hip-Hop is a natural progression of the artform. Just because there is no electric guitar doesn't mean it dosn't belong. And it doesn't matter if we like it or not. I personally am not a fan but I can appreciate its relevance. I don't like Dali's artwork, but I know it is important.

    I think when looking at this list, we have to look at the influential artists as being very important.

    As a result; if every female artist that has followed Madonna claims that Madonna was their major influence (and they all do), then you have to rank her and rank her quite high. Personally I think she is more of an MTV creation as I really cannot think of one of her songs that will last the test of time (50 years after she stops recording) or become a standard in music. Now MJ had a musicial career and a good one long before MTV. His Off The Wall album is definitely one of the best R&B albums to be released in the last 50 years. And there is no doubt that as long as people are dancing, Billie Jean will forever remain a standard in the industry. But like many that are on this list, much of their popularity has to do with MTV. If they had a top 100 list of video artists, MJ and Madonna would have to be # 1 and #2.

    I completely agree with you on Buddy Holly - what were these people thinking?
    The same goes for the Yardbirds, Deep Purple and Alice. Also not quite sure why artists from The Blues genre were totally ignored. I mean, it all starts from here anyway. Muddy Waters, BB King, etc. - where are they?

    I still find it insulting that Motown was shunned by so many and that Justin Timberlake made the list. Hello people, the only difference between JT and MJ is that MJ did it 30 years before him and did it 10 x better. And if it wasn't for the likes of the Temps, 4 Tops and so many others, it is hard to imagine that even MJ exists. Someone always comes before someone else.

    Roy - here is my reasoning behind the Dolls. They are clearly just as important as the Stooges. Getting beyond whether we actually like the music or not, you have to look at what followed. When Joey Ramone, Bob Geldorf, Mick Jones of the Clash, Morrissey of the Smiths, Steve Jones of the Pistols, Chrissy Hynde and many others who were at the forefront of the punk/new wave movement proclaim the Dolls as being a major influence, then you have to conclude that they had a defining role in the genre. I certainly don't think I need to explain their importance to Glam Rock and if you look at the musicians who made up the Hair Band scene; Nicki Sixx, Traci Gunns, and hundreds of others, you will find that they are all Johnny Thunder clones.

    It is hard to make these lists and please everyone. And if you watched the shows and the interviews, you can almost see the pattern in the voting.

    In the end, I am just grateful that The Beatles were voted number 1. Anything other than that would have been just sickening.
     
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    I'm not a fan of country music/southern rock or anything, but I always thought the The Allman Brothers were at the forefront of that. I would have had them on the list instead of artists like George Michael or Joni Mitchell.
     
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    [QUOTE]I'm not a fan of country music/southern rock or anything, but I always thought the The Allman Brothers were at the forefront of that. I would have had them on the list instead of artists like George Michael or Toni Mitchell .
    Posted by NumbaFouwer[/QUOTE]

    The Allman Brothers not making this list is quite confusing to me as well. They are as important musicially as The Band and Skyrnyrd.
     
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    In Response to Re: VH1's new Greatest List:
    [QUOTE]I'm not a fan of country music/southern rock or anything, but I always thought the The Allman Brothers were at the forefront of that. I would have had them on the list instead of artists like George Michael or Joni Mitchell .
    Posted by NumbaFouwer[/QUOTE]

    That VH1 special was just terrible, but I agree with you 100% on the Allman Brothers.
     
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    [QUOTE]I doubt anybody at VH-1 would consider my opinion worthy but Elvis and Buddy Holly always seem to be the main 50's artists that get mentioned on a "greatest" list. Consider that Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard were tremendous influences on almost every rock act from the 60's and many from the 70's. Little Richard songs "Lucille" and "Good Golly Miss Molly" were covered by just about every garage band and some later bands (Creedence covered "Good Golly Miss Molly" and I have a live Deep Purple show where they do a great version of "Lucille") Jerry Lee Lewis is not called "the Killer" for nothing....this was the original punk and the guy who put the defiant attitude into rock music....much more the rebel than Elvis. Chuck Berry had songs covered by the Stones and the Beatles , he is without a doubt the most prolific of the early rockers, his output of great songs far eclipsed any of the others. His duckwalk was likely one of the earliest attempts to "liven up" the live show....even many 60's groups when seen on Ed Sullivan stand like statues on the stage...almost looking like they are frozen in place. My top ten would certainly have Chuck Berry and Eric Clapton. But that is my opinion and really there are just too many great ones to reduce "the greatest" into the ten great artists. I am very fond of Alvin Lee and Ten Years After , but most people wouldn't place them in a top 100. Why? They are known by most people as a "one hit wonder" with 'I'd Love to Change the World'...that is so far from true, Alvin Lee along with Robin Trower just might be two of the most under-rated singer,songwriter, guitarists of all time. This is really very sad.
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    I'm with you on the early rockers. I'd also like to throw in Fats Domino, one of my personal favorites. I don't think that the raw power. energy, and spirit of that early rock music has ever really been topped. To me, rock music is most powerful when simple and direct. The foundation laid down by the early rock pioneers is absolutely essential and should always be acknowledged on any "greatest" lists.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: VH1's new Greatest List : The Allman Brothers not making this list is quite confusing to me as well. They are as important musicially as The Band and Skyrnyrd.
    Posted by jesseyeric[/QUOTE]

    I totally agree I just assumed the Allman Brothers made the list.

    I also think that for some reason The Band does not get the credit they should for how great they were. 

    Other country acts that should be on the list,
     Willie Nelson
    Hank Williams
    Patsy Cline
    Waylon Jennings

     
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    OK, with the general assumptions that most of these lists are pretty dumb and geared more toward popularity than musicianship, there's no doubt that such lists will fluctuate with the times.  Plus, these are other music artists they polled - with "artists" termed loosely. 

    I mean, did you see the broadcast?  They had commenters like Biz Markie, Buckcherry, Slipknot and The New Pornographers.  Who, you ask?  Exactly.

    So many niche performers and hard-to-categorize bands were left out, plus epic head-scratchers like the lack of Motown, Stax and Chess artists and NO ALLMAN BROS.??!!  Just terrible.

    Can we all just agree that the list does not measure "Importance" with the least bit of accuracy??  They should change the list to "100 Greatest Artists (As Voted By Whoever Bothered to Return Our Survey Card).
     
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    Michael Jackson was way too high. He only had 2 good albums.
     
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    If you're talking Motown I would take Smokey and the Miracles over Michael. I would also take the Temps and the Four Tops over Michael and the Jackson 5. Just IMO.
     
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    I saw Cream(way too low) but where is Clapton? Did I miss him?? How can they have McCartney on his own but not Clapton? I didn't see The Allman Bros. either. Aree they on there? I'll look again. Skynard Yes but not over the Allman Bros.
     

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