Re: Housebreaking Question
posted at 8/4/2010 12:55 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Housebreaking Question
When changing over a dog's food, it is usually recommended that you start with a small bag of the new, and mix with some of the old food to start with, for at least a week transition, so as not to cause digestive upset. Most vets, humane societies and labs doing medical dietary experiments do recommend Iams. Why would you not? Any reason besides the advertising of another brand? Corn (and very small quantities of carrots) is among the most recommended vegetables for dog digestion. I know Skipton's Kennels feature Natura Brands. Innova is high in grains, and the percentage of rice and brown rice (and no corn) is very poorly tolerated by some breeds of Dogs. A number of our dogs cannot have any rice formula. Almost all of their food is turkey and Chicken, with NO RED Meat. They are generally given thumbs down for any large muscled or working breed, for that reason. Also, consumer testing has shown that among the 5% of non-organic ingredients is poultry that has been chicken farmed with anti-biotics in the feed, even though many of their suppliers are organic. That means you know the average of the food supply is mostly organic, but the product of any 1 plant at any time could be 30% or so NOT, which makes it no different from lots of foods. Their Natura Evo Brands Boast that they have the highest Protein Content of any food. Angel Memorial and the Vets in Windham who removed a Lava soap sized Kidney stone from a dog we adopted (fed Evo exclusively by breeder, a cull due to eye injury but a healthy seeming 2 year old) both say, far too high a protein content for 90 % of Big Dogs, causes kidney damage. The boast of being 90 or 95% organic is not he only consideration in a dog food. Blowing their kidneys at an early age from too much protein is a serious issue. Large dogs who are very active go through a much greater amount of food for their body weight than small pet breeds, and this is where the too high protein formulas are a problem. All Evo studies (and some other brands) and those for Purina Hi-Pro are for measured amounts a very sedentary dog would eat, but serious trouble for a highly active dog who consumes lots more food. There are several good dog food lines. Our dogs have done well with Iams. Mostly we have not chosen Lamb and rice formulas because of the Rice. Blue Seal also carries some excellent lines. The folks at Skiptons may be nice, but when I saw them with the dogs of an old roommate who still lives in Waverly Sq. Belmont (nearby) they were great about exercising dogs, and maintaining training, but had zip real knowledge of general dog breeding or scientific/ medical knowledge of nutrition beyond Pop science.
Posted by whatawagSBNy
Dogs can't digest Corn. Corn is added to increase the protien content of food. The problem is, dogs can't process the protien from corn. Wheat products are added for filler.
Here are the first 4 ingredients of IAMS:Chicken, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken By-Product Meal.
I tried to find the ingredients for Purina one, but they aren't list ed on their website by % content - just alphabetical. However corn is in their products. And what are they trying to hide by not list the ingredients on their web site as they are required to list them on the packages.
The ingredients for EVO: Beef, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Egg, Sunflower oil, Buffalo, venison, Lamb, Beef Cartilege, apples, herring oil.
Red meat is hard to find in good quality dog food because good quality red meat is hard to find. Good high quality chicken is easier to find.
A dog digestion system is much shorter than a human's. Food doesn't stay in their systems very long. Food that is hard to digest stresses their systems and causes damage. The enzynes in meat aid in it's breakdown. Raw meat is the easiest food to digest for a dog because it has all of it's enzymes. As meat is cooked, the enzymes get killed. The higher the temperature for cooking the meat, the fewer enzymes left and the harder it is to digest by a dog.
Most commercial dog foods with beef use the meat that is not fit for human consumption. It's from diseased and dying animals. To kill any possible disease in the meat, it has to be cooked to a very high temperatue - think very well done. This not only kills the disease in the meat, it kills all of the enzymes in the meat.
And as far as vets and labs recommending Iams... the studies performed by the labs are paid for by..... large pet food companies like Iams. As for vets, vets sell Science Diet. They sell it because they make a lot of money on it. Truth is, science diet is terrible.
Here are the first several ingredients of Science Diet W/D formula (for diabetic dogs)..Ground Whole Grain Corn, Powdered Cellulose 17.1% (source of fiber), Chicken by-product Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Mill Run, Corn Gluten Meal, Soybean Oil, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Meal
17.1% Powdered Cellulose. Do you know what powdered cellulose is? A few years ago you would have found Powdered Cellulose on the list of ingredients. instead, they listed "Peanut Shells". They didn't replace peanut shells with powdered cellulose, they just changed what they called it.
And why to they add peanut shells to thier perscription dog food for diabetic dogs? Because diabetics need fiber so they add peanut shells to increase the fiber content. Now, I don't know about you, but if i saw my dog reach down and pick up a peanut shell I would remove it from their mouth. But Vets are prescribing it for sick dogs.
Instead of adding peanut shells to dog food, why don't they add pumpkin to the food? Pumpkin has the highest content of fiber of any veggie and is something that is actualluy good for your dog.
The point being, why would I listen someone that wants to charge me a lot of money for peanut shells to feed my dog about dog nutrition?
If you want to learn more about canine nutrition, I recommend the book, "Dogs, Diet, and Disease. Read this book and you'll never feed a dog commercial dog food again.