Behold the suctioning power of racisim

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    I dont know. This has always been kind of a sore subject with me and I have been berated for it. But, I went to basically an all black school in NJ. I was one of like 3 white kids in my class. It meant nothing to me as it was k-2nd grade. Then my family moved to NH and there was only one black family. So, I have never looked at anyone of any race as any different. You could be black, asian, blonde, short, etc....its all human to me.
    What does bother me is the using past history as an excuse to justify present issues. Even Al Sharpton has toned down his uproars and instigating riots, thank goodness.
    Yes, bigotry and racisim is always going to exist because hate is always going to exist. Its up to YOU as the individual to rise above it. I mean if that were the case, I should blame anyone who isnt American Indian for the demise of my people and the taking over of my land and why we have become drunks, drug addicts, over-weight gamblers. Its just wicked stupid in my book.

    Its becomes much more of an issue when you have inner-city schools recieving much more federal funding, laptops, and other such handouts and you have suburban schools still working off 20 year old text books. Yes, by all means kids should be given every opportunity to flourish. But why because one school meets the % of a particular race, they will receive the funding and schools in bohunk towns in NH wont? Pretty soon its going to be a reverse in who is the "underprivlidged" in this country. Then what are people going to b*tch about?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Behold the suctioning power of racisim : I have lived here my entire life.  The only people I know who are having trouble are those who failed to plan or evolve. The current economic state is simply a buying opportunity.
    Posted by QuetiePie[/QUOTE]

    Thats right, because the recent college graduates didnt plan far enough into the future, so that is why they cant find jobs?

    People cant find jobs because companies are not hiring (for the most part obviously). So therefore people have to dip into savings to make ends meet. And lucky those people have savings to dip into. But since companies havent really been hiring for 3 years, I will commend the people that have stock piled 3 years worth of savings to be able to survive off of. Because in general, most people put aside 6 months - a year of savings( which is what accountants and money managers suggest).

    And the people that were about ready to retire, that had their retirement fund locked into a company they worked for that went belly up or even worse, pulled an Enron? then because of those companies the market crashes, taking out any other form of retirement they had? Yes, they should have planned for that and stuffed their mattress with cash.

    Good for the few that were able to sock away enough to ride out this failing economy for the past 3 years and who knows how much longer into the future. But the millions of "regular" folks, make up the population, I am pretty sure will agree, the economy sucks.

    buying opportunity is something my boss who rakes in millions of dollars a year would say. Regular folks would actually need the funds to get into this buying opportunity. But they cant do that, not knowing what the future holds and having to make mortgage payments and all.....
     
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    Smash, to further your point, I was in a "fraternity" my first year of college, so my managerie of frat-bros werent even sexist ;)
     
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    you have suburban schools still working off 20 year old text books.

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    True.  When I graduated (not terribly long ago), we were still using Apple IIe computers.  With the 5 1/4" disks.  Yeppers.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Behold the suctioning power of racisim : What is the difference?  I haven't heard the term "racialism" before.
    Posted by TwoCentDonation[/QUOTE]
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    Generally speaking racism is the belief that one race is superior to another while racialism holds that there are differences between the races and while they are recognized they do not appear that significant.

    Speaking from personal experience the group that seems most consumed with race is black women. However, I do not think that is racism as I have not heard it rise to that level but it is racialism.

     
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    Thanks for the explanation, bzorn :)  Sadly, my friend took it to the level of racism :(
     
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    So, QP, you've never just had sh!t happen to you, then?

     
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    I never said it was a gurantee of a Job. I am just saying no one, can predict the future. We instill in our children how important college is, to get  a decent job, yet they graduate, the economy has tanked and now companies that were hiring last year are either out of business or on a hiring freeze. Marketing only goes so far when you have 300 people applying for 1 entry-level position. Are there people that are scrappers and hustlers that will do whatever it takes? Sure, but that most certainly isnt the majority. And still, you have to have jobs to hustle for.

    Of course good choices bring good things and bad choices bad things. That can be said about any aspect of life. However, it wasnt the guy that was planning on retiring in 3 years choice to have the market tank. He didnt decide to cheat the government or pull a Bernie Madoff or realize that his company was lying and fabricating the books all in the name of padding the CEO's back pocket.

    My feeling is that saying the economy is fine and its the people who didnt prepare for it who are at fault, isnt really a fair statement.

    And yes, great, you learned you became wiser. And I am sure after what has happened the past 3 years, there are others that have learned and have become wiser as well. But like you have been blindsided, others have been blindsided by this as well.
     
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    It sucks to have to learn such a hard lesson.  For some it's an experience they may never recover from.
     
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    Well Zeppy, we like and respect everyone here.  Except some people.
     
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    Do not feed the Trolls. I REPEAT. Do NOT Feed the Trolls.

    Thank You.

    PS - I had a story published in my local newspaper when I was in high school about a distinct childhood moment when I realized that there were different races and it meant something. It was at a Chuck E Cheese, and a little girl who I complimented on her braids said she couldn't play with me because I was white and then threw some playpen balls at me (you know, the big swim-in-the-balls bins at those bizarre kid corrals?) and immediately ran away. I was so damn confused. Sticks with me to this day.
     
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    Natgin- with all due respect. there are no trolls. This is simply a debate, which is kind of the point. I am enjoying it. And I have been around long enough to know when to engage and when not to.

    And honestly, I am really kind of tired of that saying. Just because you disagree with someone's strong opinion, doesnt make them a troll. Otherwise, I would be considered a troll. Ok, well some think I am anyway....but anywayzzzzzzz


    I never had that moment of "there are different races" probably because my early years we were wicked poor and my elementary school was mostly black. So I had always known there are people of different colors/ethnic background. It never phased me. The only time it kind of made me think a little was when I was in HS and we were driving to FL and we stopped in some town off the HW in GA and a cop pulled my dad over and told us to get back on the highway and not to get off for another 20 miles or something. It was an all black community and I guess there had been some issues with tourists. But it could have easily been in Detroit and been a "white gang" territory.
     
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    Jeepz, I definitely wasn't referring to your civil discourse - I was aiming that more at the outlandish blanket statements being made.

    I'm actually very much enjoying and fascinated by the opinions and stories being share on such a controversial topic. I think it's awesome that this is a 'safe' place for the conversation. I love it.
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't know.  All this racism and racialism is unfortunate, but I will admit that it is there every day.  And i think it will continue to be prevalent for years to come.  I mean, we still have restaurants in the US that have black and white sections.  How confusing is this for Asians? There are people that I don't like, but none of the reasons are "because they are black/white/asians/indian/whatever".  Mostly the reason is because they are assholios.
    Posted by SmashAtoms[/QUOTE]

    Wait a minute. There are restaurants with black and white sections nowadays. Where?


     
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    Every time I play checkers I don't know if it's good to be the red or the black chips.  And I can't decide how much time to devote to Othello, because by the time I'm done playing checkers I haven't the energy for any other game of racial import.
     
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    I remember when I lived in Montgomery Alabama, white people were the minority there. Alabama State University had to give minority scolarships to caucasians.

    At the same time, my mom was having difficulty at her job, and the District Manager determined it was reverse racisim.

    Racisim sucks, but everyone has the type of people they do not like. Avenue Q says everyone is a little bit racist, and they are right. It doesn't have to be black, white, asian, indian, native american, etc.

    In all, all I have to say is this....

    Tacos.
     
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    I get that NatGin, but I would hope people would just drop the DNFT thing, especially when people are just debating. It kind of gives off that cliquey vibe that lurkers quib about.

    I am not sure everyone has some amount of racism in them. I think everyone has some amount of hate in them, but I am going to think about that.

    Tacos. Are. Awesome.
     
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    Re: Behold the suctioning power of racisim

    I wouldn't say everyone's a bit racist.  Prejudiced, maybe - because prejudice isn't just about race, it's about physical appearance, clothing style, the way one writes, speaks, etc. 
     

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