Some Thoughts on The Blog

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    "Yeah, and they're the same people who want men to be able to marry other men. Ew, as if that would ever happen. " In fact, they are not.  There is a very important distinction there.  Civil rights as a citizen of the United States versus trying to get people to change their own reasonable behavior to accomodate your wishes. Should the government force the Catholic Church to allow two men to marry?  Hell, no.  Their house, their rules.  Like you can't smoke in Fenway Park.  Their house, their rules.  It's like the blog.  You can't ask other people who are doing something allowable under house rules to stop because you personally don't like it.
    Posted by diamondgirl


    I see where you're going with this and agree on the Catholic Church part of the argument.  But once upon a time, people WERE allowed to smoke in Fenway Park.  And other people DID ask them not to, even though it was allowed under "house rules", with varying degrees of success.  Eventually, enough people were asking for "No Smoking" that the house rules were changed.
     
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    EES, at some point, people need to take responsibility for themselves. This isnt kindergarten. This isnt HS.

    There is no law, Marine or chains keeping you here. If you feel the tone has gone too negative or nasty, leave. Its not that difficult. And if more people do it, it will certainly affect the blog. But the continuous complaints, chastising, lecturing, berating, whining to whomever, is not going to work. Its only going to rile people up more.

    So, self-protection, if you really feel that you are being attacked, would dictate you leave or ignore. Not continue to engage with the person you feel is attacking you. No one is going to leave a pile of doggie poopz on your porch or harrass you on IM, if you ignore them.
     
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    DG, simply because a rule exists is not a reason to not seek change.


    This is true.  And if you are able to effect useful change in the soccer system, that is awesome.  But if you are not, you have the choice to leave the program if this irritates you sufficiently, or to start another program, or to put up with their program.

    I think the Catholic Church is the most (redacted) bag of harmful lies and insane, misconceived aims ever.  It HAS gone through a ton of changes in the last fifty years, mostly brought about by the members of the Church.  Which is awesome.  But at the same time, just because you want them to change, does not mean they have to, or that if they don't it is a personal insult.  You can always belong to another church.  There are rules that institutions will not change.

    Every person has their own line, of course, on how much fighting they wish to do.  Henry VIII just started his own church.  The Founding Fathers just amde their own country.  I personally think that an online relationship advice blog is not the battle I choose to spend my energy on, but if people do (shrug).

    At the same time, just because they are complaining does not mean the institution has to a. listen, or b. change.  And it doesn't mean they get a pass to be mean to people who don't agree with them, while simultaneously bashing them for being mean and bullying.
     
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    So what she's saying EES is that it's ok to be mean because you have the option to walk away. And hey, she's right.. but I'd rather know I am the one who walks away than the one who causes the walking away.
     
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    Eventually, enough people were asking for "No Smoking" that the house rules were changed.
    Posted by TubThumper


    Yep.  But in the meantime, the people who were allowed to smoke were perfectly within their right to do so, and people who did not want to be exposed to smoke were perfectly within their right to stay home.

    My large point here is that the institution can be petitioned to change their smoking rule, but at no time should it have been permissible to (for instance) accuse the smokers of being bullies, form alliances in order to treat them badly, and attack them verbally for being mean and/or a clique or deliberately exclusionary, when they were doing something the institution had given them permission to do.

    Petition BDC to clamp down on comments, and until and unless they do, stop the poster on poster hate.

    Meredith and the Blog Gods have seen fit to moderate/police/keep the blog the way it is so far.  Which means while you may want to deal directly with BDC about how you dislike the way it is run, filling the blog with poster on poster whining does nothing but spoil the blog. 

    If you want the bar to disallow swearing, talk to the owner.  Don't go in there and whine at the patrons.
     
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    "Someone makes a comment to you that you dont like, that YOU think is too snarky or you feel is too nasty, ignore it."   While I actually agree with this, I want to ask a question: If one follows this advice and is just ignoring any post they don't like, then can one ever feel "attacked"?
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    And that is the point Tubbz. Unless you are being stalked and constantly harassed, you arent being attacked here. People are so quick to jump into defensive mode when someone disagrees with them, its become asinine.

    Sorry, I can disagree with whomever I want. And, I think I can pretty much say, 99% my disagreements are very respectful as most people heres have been. People start to take it way too personally or make assumptions about the meaning BEHIND the comment that a majority of time, is so far off base that its become stoopid. (there was a hockey joke in there, but I am too tired to figure it out).

    I have taken advice from a wise sole, that I dont engage in some of the nonsense because it distracts from the blog. I think its become pretty apparent and obvious. For the record too, I dont report posts, but I cant control others that do. Also, I was NOT the rooster, to dispel that rumor before it starts.
     
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    >>>But if you are not, you have the choice to leave the program if this irritates you sufficiently, or to start another program, or to put up with their program.


    I also have the option to stay and scream and stamp my feet. It may not make me any friends or be effective, but it is an option.
     
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    I'm going to start the rumor that the Rooster was Jeepers Cripes, just so she can maintain the belief that anyone was ever going to start that rumor.
     
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    To the question of whether you should just accept an institution's rules... I think a couple of things are in play.

    1) Knowing how to choose your battles. Not everything is worth the fight. You have to determine what is being lost by them not changing, and how important it is.

    2) Understanding the reasons they have for that rule. "That's just the way we do things" vs. "Here is why we do things this way." When the first is in place, if the battle is worth it, it may be worth fighting. In the case of the second instance, unless there is important evidence or information that group is ignoring, it is probably not worth fighting, because if people have thought out reasons, and you have another option, whether or not you agree, it's probably not worth the fight. They have a right to their maintain their beliefs and practices.

    3) Finally, as DG said above, Direct your efforts for change at the right sources. The Occupy movement is a good example of this. They blame the "evil" corporations, when the real anger should be directed at those who make the policies that allow the corporations to act as they do. It's like yelling at the poor customer service agent who is merely following company policy when you can't get what you want. 


    That being said, as this applies to LL, while I wouldn't bother complaining here about the sexual talk which is clearly being permitted by the blog, instances of bad behavior I think are fair game as this group claims to be self-policing. And if that's the case, then raising awareness is the best method.
     
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    In Response to Re: Some Thoughts on The Blog : And that is the point Tubbz. Unless you are being stalked and constantly harassed, you arent being attacked here. People are so quick to jump into defensive mode when someone disagrees with them, its become asinine. Sorry, I can disagree with whomever I want. And, I think I can pretty much say, 99% my disagreements are very respectful as most people heres have been. People start to take it way too personally or make assumptions about the meaning BEHIND the comment that a majority of time, is so far off base that its become stoopid. (there was a hockey joke in there, but I am too tired to figure it out). I have taken advice from a wise sole, that I dont engage in some of the nonsense because it distracts from the blog. I think its become pretty apparent and obvious. For the record too, I dont report posts, but I cant control others that do. Also, I was NOT the rooster, to dispel that rumor before it starts.
    Posted by Jeepers-Cripes


    When you say: "And that is the point...", what do you mean?

    If one is ignoring posts one doesn't like, that means one is not reading them.  If one is not reading them, then there is nothing to feel upset about.  I agree that "stalking" can take place, but it would require something like disclosing one's real name and address or something like that.  I know that has happened to a few.  I wasn't aware that this had happened to you.  Is that poster still on the blog or was it one of the ones that got banned for doing that?  As for harassing, isn't that another way to say "bullying"?  I thought you were of the opinion that  nothing said on the blog was bullying.  Am I wrong about that?  I could be, if I am, please forgive the error.

    Also - I never said that you were NOT free to disagree with anyone or that you were the Rooster.  I just asked whether someone who is ignoring posts (ie: not reading them) can feel attacked if they've never read what the other poster wrote.  I still don't understand how that could possibly work.
     
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    Thank you for stroking my ego RSF.

     
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    Should a blind person be upset that another person in their office is looking at porn?
     
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    In Response to Re: Some Thoughts on The Blog : Yep.  But in the meantime, the people who were allowed to smoke were perfectly within their right to do so, and people who did not want to be exposed to smoke were perfectly within their right to stay home. My large point here is that the institution can be petitioned to change their smoking rule, but at no time should it have been permissible to (for instance) accuse the smokers of being bullies, form alliances in order to treat them badly, and attack them verbally for being mean and/or a clique or deliberately exclusionary, when they were doing something the institution had given them permission to do. Petition BDC to clamp down on comments, and until and unless they do, stop the poster on poster hate. Meredith and the Blog Gods have seen fit to moderate/police/keep the blog the way it is so far.  Which means while you may want to deal directly with BDC about how you dislike the way it is run, filling the blog with poster on poster whining does nothing but spoil the blog.  If you want the bar to disallow swearing, talk to the owner.  Don't go in there and whine at the patrons.
    Posted by diamondgirl


    I was just talking about Fenway Park.

    But I agree with the "...poster on poster whining" sentiment. 
     
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    I have not yet denied being the rooster.
     
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    Robadoodledoodysniffer!
     
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    The Rooster is an awful, awful song.
     
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    Eh.  Everyone is right. 

    Hey rob.
     
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    Tubbz, I should have opened first with: I am not responding directly, but more in general to your comment. I didnt mean YOU thought I was the rooster, but I have been called out being nasty sockpuppets before. It was more a joke in line with everyone saying they werent it.

    Second, I didnt mean you directly were saying I couldnt disagree, but more in general when some people go on some major tirade about posting an opposing comment. Its like taking something like, wow, you look a little tired today and turning into  OMG she thinks I am ugly, fat, smelly etc..... Seriously.

    But I guess I can only speak for myself, I dont feel attacked here. Or at least not anymore. I made the conscious decision to ignore certain people and it works out just fine for me. They want to make passive aggressive comments, snark, be whatever, thats on them. I can only control how I respond to it. And I respond by the fact that person is nothing to me and therefore ignored. My little diddy with MP was in response to his continously calling me a dude. Did I take it personally? Hellz no. But just ribbed him back. No biggie. We ironed it out and all is ok with the world. People need to understand, if you are going to rip on someone, then be very certain you can take it in return. Otherwise dont do it at all. I didnt personally attack him. I ranked on him.
     
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    DG, has anybody ever berrated you for saying hello? 
     
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    I didnt personally attack him. I ranked on him.
    Posted by Jeepers-Cripes


    I think this is a distinction that many fail to see.  Which I find annoying.
     
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    DG, has anybody ever berrated you for saying hello? 
    Posted by McBostonrob


    I don't know.  Maybe?  I have a terrible online atttention span.
     
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    The Rooster is an awful, awful song.
    Posted by Schlippo


    Is that song by Stone Temple Pilots with the line, "Here comes the rooster?"

    If so I am in total agreement with you.

    And those who disagree are against us!!
     
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    I am going to disclose something personal, because I've never done that on here before.

    I love Cinnamon Teddy Grahams.  Just love em!  I would serially marry many Cinnamon Teddy Grahams, if it were legal.
     
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