2013 State of the Commonwealth speech

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    This makes sense, increase the tax burden on contributers and reduce it for non-contributers.

     
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    I'm very impressed with Patrick and I think he shows great courage. He's the first governor in many years who actually cares to govern and take a stand, even it angers many. Unlike Rommey (who started running for Prez, and running away from the state, even running AGAINST the state, within a few months of being elected); Weld (who was bored almost immediately with governing) and Cellucci (who was just incompetent and also looking ahead and dreaming of higher, cushier office, hopefully gifted by his buddies, the Bushes) -- Patrick actually cares to govern the state. He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax). In general, I support this. I want to hear more, I don't want to see another blackhole like the Big Dig -- but I know we need to spend money on infrastructure and education. Brave Gov. Patrick!!




    Just waiting - Governor Patrick is going to get the The John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award - AKA I raised taxes award.

     
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    Get him out of office....NOW!




    Too late we never ,earn in MA.

     
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    The extra revenue will never make it's way for roads, bridges or education.  It'll all go to expand welfare, unfunded pensions, service the debt, medicaid and expanision of the wefare state.  All the state and local retirees do not pay state income taxes, so they will be for it and of course those who pay no income tax at all will jump for joy.  Another hit to those who fund the bill.  This is discusting!!

     
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    As with our representatives in Washington, it seems as though Governor Patrick might be a bit out of touch with the current lay of the land for the lower and middle classes; that is to say folks who are stretched thin due to unemployment, partial employment, no raises, no promotions, et al. In addition, we have just effectively received a 2% tax increase due to the "adjustment" to the payroll tax. Is yet another tax increase going to make things better and better for whom realistically speaking?

     
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    Devoid STOP with the tax and spend and START with CUTTING state gov't SPENDING... $4.4 million to mow the grass at the Greenway??????????

     
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    Share your thoughts with us on Governor Deval Patrick's speech. He called for an increase in the income tax and a decrease in the sales tax to help fund improvements to education and the state's transportation system. 

    Click here to read Boston.com coverage of the speech.



    NO!

     

     
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    I can't afford to pay for the union kickbacks.

     
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    When is the next election? Duval is out as far as I am concerned.

     
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    why do elected idiots like the deval seem to not even blink at the idea of mass has the secound highest debt to revenue ratio only behind cal. this lame idea of infastructure is lame, wasn't that what all those signs all over the state saying another stimulus project. when more taxes are needed to prop up a failing system like the mbta who's big problems revolve around pensions and perks for life.. always getting great raises, hey the mbta workers use the hope contracts go past deadlines and take a year as they still recieve what they had then when new contract is signed they all get nice fat checks to vacation on. lets see illegals who aren't in the eyes of our elected mini me of obama's... clean up your house first mini me,welfare fraud,state run housing projects that are a joke, no checks and balances to protect the people from waste and fraud with housing,welfare,and so many other programs. not like the deval has had any luck with this green money give away to those companies, hey it's green so it's ok... stop corporate welfare and state worker union welfare.... now the TAX payers will have to cover the cost for inner city idiot parents who can't provide the basics in prep to enter school. so the deval needs the state to cover these useless parents kids from birth till the enter k grade then all the way to who knows were he will stop... it is a parents job to get your child ready for school.  but as i see it they are doing a really bad job as if the job was done correctly this wouldn't be needed.... this idea will require 10 times what they figure as all involved will demand and recieve a lot more money or he'll hire 100's and say they created jobs,,, taking my taxes and using them for state jobs isn't the idea of job creation it just shuffles our tax money around...

     
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    Once again, working people are being asked to pay for those that don't work! I obviously raised my children the wrong way, they too would have free housing, food, phones and health care if they didn't work!

     
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    In response to IAMPLE's comment:

    Deval Patrick just gave a terrific speech.   He clearly articulated a vision for the Commonwealth, and he described how to pay for it.     He also proposed significant tax reform.     Impressive!




    Do you pay taxes?  The pain of paying for this will come from the taxpayers, like me.  This state wastes way too much of the money it already takes in.  Fix that first and then ask for more.

     
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    In response to Entropic's comment:

    He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax).




    You don't understand the idea of a "progressive" tax.  The Massachusetts income tax is a flat tax.  After a few low-end exemptions, the same rate applies to every dollar earned.  The governor's proposal to raise the flat rate income tax is almost as regressive as a sales tax.

    This is actually another "income redistribution" gimmick by Democrats.  Those who work and earn must pay more so that those who don't work can live easier lives.  It's that simple.

    By taxing all income at a higher rate, this proposal mostly hurts the middle class, but it also makes it even more difficult for those who want to work hard and climb out of poverty.

     
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    are people blind the people as a whole are struggling the state really isn't interested in your problems they just need to keep the voter base happy the rest can pound sand,,, lets see check list, keep government unions happy BIG BIG voting block, create many programs to keep those dependant on the state more dependant on them, at election time let the word spread if it isn't a dem you will be out of work well most of you, it worked when the deval ran against baker, hey he already building the future illegals sorry new american how long befor he lets them vote for him... let the people fall for the line all our problems are because of bush and those 1%.  ........ lets all meet on rthe devals street in milton and do as he allowewd those OWS clowns to do... we have so much waste in this state and nobody wants to even try to fix it...

     
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    In response to BostonDotCom's comment:

     

    Share your thoughts with us on Governor Deval Patrick's speech. He called for an increase in the income tax and a decrease in the sales tax to help fund improvements to education and the state's transportation system. 

    Click here to read Boston.com coverage of the speech.

     



    Overhaul? is this the new vernacular for tax RAISING? Looks like (no surprise) the Boston Globe is on board. Of course their executives in the corporate world are not subject to Massachusetts personal income tax raises. This is absurd! Patrick is the worst governor since Dukakis.  Patrick has shown over the last 7 years that all he seems to care about are illegal immigrants and gay rights and all he calls for to enhance both agendas is to raise taxes. He is also though, caught in an embarrassing 2007 promise to provide Fall River and New Bedford with "South Coast Rail" and is looking for $1.2B for just that alone.

    This cra-a-zy plan is promising the south coast socialists a 70 minute ride from New Bedford to Fall River and eventually to Boston in 70 minutes with 7 stops! This is in reality a 105 minute ride or 210 minutes round trip that will have vast under-use in commuter numbers. Do the math; How many of the New Bedford layabouts will be willing to sit on an MBTA train for 1,000 min (17 hours) each week to work in town in exchange for slightly better salaries? 

     

     
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    In response to IAMPLE's comment:

    Deval Patrick just gave a terrific speech.   He clearly articulated a vision for the Commonwealth, and he described how to pay for it.     He also proposed significant tax reform.     Impressive!



    You're pathetic and an embarassment. Who is this Deval or Tim?

     
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    Gov Patrick has lost his mind.  Tax us more, what is he thinking.  We already pay higher property taxes than most because housing costs are so high in this state, which usually translates to higher mortgage payments.  Uncle Sam wacked us with a 2% increase so Obama's buddy Deval figures another 1% won't hurt.  At this rate I would be better off selling everything and moving out of this country.  Does Brazil give EBT cards to thier Illegals?

     
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    I do not live in Massachusetts anymore and even if I wanted to return I could not afford to live in that state.  I did grow up in Foxboro and still have relatives that live there.  I now live in Florida and here is the difference between the two states.

    "FLORIDA:  Income tax rate 0%, Corp Tax 5.5%,  Sales Tax 6%, Property Tax Per Capita $1,589.  No Auto Excise or Inspections.

    MASSACHUSETTS:

    Income Tax rate 5.3%, Corp Tax 8%, Sales & Excise Tax rate 6.25%, Property Tax Per Capita $1,873.

    Massachusetts' Individual Income Tax System 

    Massachusetts' personal income tax system consists of a flat rate of 5.3% on most personal income. This rate ranks 30st highest among states that levy an income tax. Massachusetts' 2008 state-level individual income tax collections were $1,549  per person, which was the 3rd highest in the nation."

    From the Tax Foundation.org.

    Massachusetts citizens need to get involved to understand where and how their money is being spent and how much of it is being wasted.  I have been back many times and find that the roads are still full of pot holes and constant construction and the trash along the road ways is a discrace for such a liberal and enviromental state.  I personally do not feel sorry for the people because this is what they voted for.

     
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    In response to Entropic's comment:

     

    I'm very impressed with Patrick and I think he shows great courage. He's the first governor in many years who actually cares to govern and take a stand, even it angers many. Unlike Rommey (who started running for Prez, and running away from the state, even running AGAINST the state, within a few months of being elected); Weld (who was bored almost immediately with governing) and Cellucci (who was just incompetent and also looking ahead and dreaming of higher, cushier office, hopefully gifted by his buddies, the Bushes) -- Patrick actually cares to govern the state. He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax). In general, I support this. I want to hear more, I don't want to see another blackhole like the Big Dig -- but I know we need to spend money on infrastructure and education. Brave Gov. Patrick!!

     




     

    Just waiting - Governor Patrick is going to get the The John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award - AKA I raised taxes award.




    Get a clue, his education initiative is free daycare.  Expand the rail..fix the current problems first...If the over budget fiasco of the BIG DIG dodn't open your eyes to Govt waste than you might want to jump into the frigid waters of the Boston Harbor, maybe the shock ans awe will bring you to your senses.

     
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    Good i hope people hurt, and suffer for their support of the liberal machine. 

     

     
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    As soon as the legislature totally guts State government with its billion dollar bloat of patronage and do-nothing jobs, and they eliminate ALL benefits for members of the legislature and executive branches, then the Governor can broach the idea of new taxes!

     
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    If you live in NH and still work in MA you still have to pay MA income taxes. 

    A 1% tax increase on $65,000/yr is $650.  Which is not as terrible as it sounds.  At least he is proposing to reduce the sales tax to 4%, but I don't think that will stop people from wanting to shop in NH or buy things on Amazon until we're all forced to pay sales tax. 

    I think reason being for raising the income tax is to get revenue from people who do avoid sales tax in NH or buying from online retailers who don't charge the sales tax.  This would take more money from the richest massachusetts residents. 

    I believe improving and expanding train travel is important in this state -- these trains are often very packed believe it or not for those of you complaining and driving everywhere.  A train to the cape to hyannis would be a GREAT idea in the summertime; save money by not buying parking at a lot to the islands, reduce traffic on Rt. 6 and the bridges, and it would be an enjoyable ride.  It would make it easier for Bostonians who live in the city to get away. 

    However, I am not sure that a train from Pittsfield to NY would do much help -- we already have trains from Rt. 128 and South Station that can take people to NY, and Washington, DC.  I am not sure that a train from Boston to Springfield would do much good but the idea is nice.  Springfield is pretty poor from my last visit -- what is there to see?  It was different when I lived there as a 3 yr old. 

    Generally I'm not a fan of having to pay higher taxes esp. when my age group needs to save save save, wants to invest in affordable housing and get the hell out of their parents house by age 28-30 because its just weird, and be able to provide for the future.  All these taxes and not big enough raises are making it difficult for us to have families... are we going to see us like current germany looking for more residents because enough people aren't being born?  are we going to be replacing these people with all immigrants or illegals??

     
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    In response to Entropic's comment:

    I'm very impressed with Patrick and I think he shows great courage. He's the first governor in many years who actually cares to govern and take a stand, even it angers many. Unlike Rommey (who started running for Prez, and running away from the state, even running AGAINST the state, within a few months of being elected); Weld (who was bored almost immediately with governing) and Cellucci (who was just incompetent and also looking ahead and dreaming of higher, cushier office, hopefully gifted by his buddies, the Bushes) -- Patrick actually cares to govern the state. He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax). In general, I support this. I want to hear more, I don't want to see another blackhole like the Big Dig -- but I know we need to spend money on infrastructure and education. Brave Gov. Patrick!!


     

     
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    In response to Entropic's comment:

    I'm very impressed with Patrick and I think he shows great courage. He's the first governor in many years who actually cares to govern and take a stand, even it angers many. Unlike Rommey (who started running for Prez, and running away from the state, even running AGAINST the state, within a few months of being elected); Weld (who was bored almost immediately with governing) and Cellucci (who was just incompetent and also looking ahead and dreaming of higher, cushier office, hopefully gifted by his buddies, the Bushes) -- Patrick actually cares to govern the state. He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax). In general, I support this. I want to hear more, I don't want to see another blackhole like the Big Dig -- but I know we need to spend money on infrastructure and education. Brave Gov. Patrick!!


    Your NUTS.

     
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