2013 State of the Commonwealth speech

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    Good schools? Haha...I moved to VA 7 years ago  ( and took 2 school kids) and they are in better programs and for 25% less taxes and the college system in VA is far superior to MA ( UVA vs UMass aanyone??)

    Stop drinking the koolaid...fire the bum

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    ..... As for me if my income taxes go up any further I will move out of state - heck I already shop out of state.

     

     




     

    Governor Patrick proposed to lower sales tax, so you will have less reason to shop out-of-state.   Of course, you can always move, if you want.    Nothing is stopping you, unless you have children in school, and you want them to get a good education.




     
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    Share your thoughts with us on Governor Deval Patrick's speech. He called for an increase in the income tax and a decrease in the sales tax to help fund improvements to education and the state's transportation system. 

    Click here to read Boston.com coverage of the speech.



    Yet again... Those that work get punished.   A train to the Cape and from Pittsfield to NY is this guyan idiot??? Operating deficit from Day One.   Want to increase revenue  ---- lets tax state pensions, just like we pay tax on our measly 201ks.   

     

     
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    Deval Patrick just gave a terrific speech.   He clearly articulated a vision for the Commonwealth, and he described how to pay for it.     He also proposed significant tax reform.     Impressive!



    Let's tax state pensions....... Oops cannot do that as those unions get me elected, so let's tax everyone else.  

     

    Did any of these hacks ever study supply and demand ...... No demand great enough from Cape to cover expenses.   Deficit - day one.  Pandering to voters nothing else. 

     
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    A 1% income tax increase on top of the 2% we all just got from Obama and the Federal Government means a total tax increase of 3%, and it's barely half way through January.  So if you make $65,000 per year you will lose $2000 this year.  This and our state workers are making six figure salaries and getting lavish benefits and retirements.  Happy New Year everyone! 

     

     
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    Deval Patrick just gave a terrific speech.   He clearly articulated a vision for the Commonwealth, and he described how to pay for it.     He also proposed significant tax reform.     Impressive!



    Drop yer draws and grab yer paws, IAMPLE. Taxes and Deval are gonna hit'cha where the good lord split'cha

     
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    Perhaps there is a plan out there somewhere that provides specifics as to how this money will be spent; the Governor may no mention of it.  I, for one, am tired of forking over billions of dollars for vague plans that sound nice, but are often ineffective and wasteful. 

    Not knowing the programs or the target audience, there’s no way to evaluate their potential effectiveness.  Or are we just throwing a billion dollars into the air and hoping it will go to the right places and programs?  That’s called waste on a grand scale.  Money isn’t always the answer.

    How will we measure the results?   Will there be a claw-back process for ineffective programs?  Until a lot more detail is provided, I say not a penny more.

     
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    I am continually astounded that this clown was voted in for another term.  I see him as a fairly simple minded, arrogant, and completely out of touch clown.   The people in this state could well be the least politically astute people in the entire Country.

     
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    Absurd....im online now looking for a portsmouth nh residence.  Enough is enough!   absurd.

     
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    You deserve the leaders you elect.    I have alwyas said, you want to pay more in taxes? Then check the box and write the bigger check..no one is stopping you.

     

    "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”

    ―  Robert A. Heinlein

     
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    A brilliant progessive proposal. Here's hoping it can pass the legislature without too much pork attached.

     
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    socialism works until you run out of other people's money; or they move to another state.

    patrick is a redistributionist from the productive sector to the non-productive underclass.

     

     
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    Thanks to Obama my raise now is taken in SS. I can barely make it as is. Now I know why they want eveyone depending on the government. Stop spending and what you do spend keep an account of it. Raise the sales tax  so all who buy things pay their equal share. Leave the income tax alone for crying out loud.Try getting rid of all your crooks on your payroll.

     
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    This is the exact wrong time for a tax increase.  Most consumer goods cost significantly more, including groceries, gas prices have skyrocketed...people are out of work, very few companies have even given cost of living increases.

    I cannot go to my employer, and tell them they have to pay me more because I need the money.  They would laugh at me, and rightly so.

    The state government should not be able to, either.  My tax proposal:  No new state taxes or state tax increases without a majority vote.  The government can fully explain why it needs more money, and what it will use it for, and then people can decide whether it is something they want.  It works very well at the local level. 

    I find it apalling that they would add this burden now.  Please write your representatives, and strongly encourage them to vote no...

     
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    Good schools? Haha...I moved to VA 7 years ago  ( and took 2 school kids) and they are in better programs and for 25% less taxes and the college system in VA is far superior to MA ( UVA vs UMass aanyone??)

    Stop drinking the koolaid...fire the bum

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    ..... As for me if my income taxes go up any further I will move out of state - heck I already shop out of state.

     

     




     

    Governor Patrick proposed to lower sales tax, so you will have less reason to shop out-of-state.   Of course, you can always move, if you want.    Nothing is stopping you, unless you have children in school, and you want them to get a good education.

     




     

    PAYSCALE.COM MID CAREER SALARIES STATE SCHOOL RANKINGS

    UMASS LOWELL - 21st

    UVA - 30th

    Don't lead with your chin :)

     
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    Read my post: NO MORE, NO NEW TAXES.  Between property taxes, MWRA rates, higher fees, and everything else, enough is enough.  I'm tired of seeing this state throw money down the drain - EBT cards, phantom Medicaid patients, etc., etc.

     
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    State health care costs are out of control, and now this.  This Governor's legacy will be a fiscal mess.

    Rewards for the teacher and other unions as the inmates continue to run the asylum.  

    Double the exemption?  Unnamed deductions taken away? Patrick is doing what worked for the Democrats at the federal level.  Increase the numbers of voters who have no skin in the game if taxes are raised.  

    Why do I think Iample and Entropic are pseudonyms for the same poster?  Same voice and both first time posters.  Is this the gov's office at work?  

     

     
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    In response to BostonDotCom's comment:

    Share your thoughts with us on Governor Deval Patrick's speech. He called for an increase in the income tax and a decrease in the sales tax to help fund improvements to education and the state's transportation system. 

    Click here to read Boston.com coverage of the speech.




    Raising taxes in this economy? NOT a good strategy. How about creating more jobs, especially for all the recent college grads who are under employed or unemployed.

     
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    I'm very impressed with Patrick and I think he shows great courage. He's the first governor in many years who actually cares to govern and take a stand, even it angers many. Unlike Rommey (who started running for Prez, and running away from the state, even running AGAINST the state, within a few months of being elected); Weld (who was bored almost immediately with governing) and Cellucci (who was just incompetent and also looking ahead and dreaming of higher, cushier office, hopefully gifted by his buddies, the Bushes) -- Patrick actually cares to govern the state. He is proposing lowering regressive taxes (sales taxes) and increasing income taxes (so that those with higher income pay more -- a progressive tax). In general, I support this. I want to hear more, I don't want to see another blackhole like the Big Dig -- but I know we need to spend money on infrastructure and education. Brave Gov. Patrick!!




    "Brave?" How about stupid. This proposal favors illegals and the welfare crowd but how about all us working stiffs?

     
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    Raising taxes only HURTS THE WORKING CLASS RESIDENTS of the state.  The sales tax spreads the cost equally amoung all residents and non-residents of the state.  If he goes through with the plan, it BENEFITS OUT OF STATE RESIDENTS who visit our state and will be paying lower sales tax.  It also BENEFITS THE NOT WORKING who won't be pating higher income taxes.  It also benefits those working "under the table" or "off the books" such as illegal aliens and others.  Duval Patrick is falling right in line with his pal, President Obama....  tax the so-called "rich" working class and give the money to those who aren't working (or living in this state).

     
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    Raising the income tax and lowering the sales tax is not an overall increase, is it.  It's shifting the burden from the most poor, however.

     
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    Good schools? Haha...I moved to VA 7 years ago  ( and took 2 school kids) and they are in better programs and for 25% less taxes and the college system in VA is far superior to MA ( UVA vs UMass aanyone??)

    Stop drinking the koolaid...fire the bum

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    ..... As for me if my income taxes go up any further I will move out of state - heck I already shop out of state.

     

     




     

    Governor Patrick proposed to lower sales tax, so you will have less reason to shop out-of-state.   Of course, you can always move, if you want.    Nothing is stopping you, unless you have children in school, and you want them to get a good education.

     




     




    I agree - I am from Mass and went to UVA in the 1990's - got the best public education $$ can buy.

     
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    Patrick is one of the best Govs we've ever had!

     
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    I can live with the higher income tax rate but this state had an opportunity to lower the sales tax to 3% and failed to enact it. How are the no voters feeling now?

     
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    Patrick is one of the best Govs we've ever had!



    As long as you don't work, live off gov't programs, and love your EBT fraud. Then he really is the best ever!

     

     

     
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