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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : I didn't realize there was proof Bush had actually lied about WMDs in Iraq. I thought he was going off the intelligence gather by the US and five other countries. Why has he not been brought up on charges? Clearly this evidence you are referring to should be enough to charge him And how was "mission accomplished" a lie? I would say it was more a stupid statement. A lie? No.
    Posted by WIIN12AM[/QUOTE]
    It's 2011 and we still haven't found any WMD in Iraq. And as for Bush's infamous "Mission Accomplished" statement? I'd say that was one of the biggest lies in history. Also - do you remember any other time when a US President wore a military uniform while in office? Bush looked like a younger, dumber version of Fidel Castro when he made that statement while wearing a military uniform. He looked like an American version of North Korea's "Dear Leader".
     
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    [QUOTE]"maybe the neo-cons seen away to amass wealth from war profits " So they started wars to make a buck, eh? Delusional much? How does the Marxist class-warfare koolaid taste? Good thing the evil incompetent Bush and the neo-cons have been driven from power, and the man of the working class, Barack Obama, immediately stopped all our wars because they were just fought to make rich people richer. the flawless Obama wouldnt release terrorists who later come back and kill Americans, would he? (he would) And Obama's crew wouldnt allow a terrorist to get on a plane to Detroit to blow it up,  when the terrorists's father previously warned the CIA, would they ? (they would).  " 8101956 "  post saying  9/11 was an inside job coming in 3....2...1... 
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    911 was an inside job.  Unfortunately for the progressive truthers, the "inside" was the muslim brotherhood, who are now taking over Egypt.
     
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    It's 2011 and we still haven't found any WMD in Iraq. And as for Bush's infamous "Mission Accomplished" statement? I'd say that was one of the biggest lies in history. Also - do you remember any other time when a US President wore a military uniform while in office? Bush looked like a younger, dumber version of Fidel Castro when he made that statement while wearing a military uniform. He looked like an American version of North Korea's "Dear Leader".


    Ok first off I asked you HOW the "mission accomplished" statement was a lie. You respond by saying "it was a lie". Um....ok....so you STILL haven't answered HOW it was a lie.
    As for the military uniform? Um....it was a flight suit that he wore when he flew in the fighter jet. Here's a little education for you. Flight suits aren't a costume. Flight suits actually serve a purpose when flying fighter jets. Because of the speeds fighter jet get to the flight suits serve a purpose by keeping blood flow to avoid passing out.
    As for WMD's, Why aren't you complaining about all of these people lying???:
    1. "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
      President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

      www.cnn.com/US/9802/04/us.un.iraq/" target="_blank">Quoted on CNN
    2. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

      www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/" target="_blank">Quoted on CNN
    3. Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

      www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_tpo.html" target="_blank">Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA
    4. "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998
      www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_tpo.html" target="_blank">
      Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA
    5. "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

      www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Letters,%20reports%20and%20statements/levin-10-9-98.html" target="_blank">See letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others
    6. "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

      www.house.gov/pelosi/priraq1.htm" target="_blank">Statement by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website
    7. "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

      www.clw.org/pub/clw/coalition/albright111099.htm+Madeleine+Albright,+Hussein+has+chosen+to+spend+his+money+on+building&hl=en" target="_blank">Answer to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs
    8. "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

      Letter to President George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.
    9. " We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

      www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/iraq_12-10.html" target="_blank">Online with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service
    10. "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
      www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm" target="_blank">
      Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today
    11. "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

      www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm" target="_blank">Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today
    12. "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

      U.S. Senate — Ted Kennedy
    13. "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

      Congressional Record — Robert Byrd
    14. "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry
    15. "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller
    16. "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

      Congressional Record — Rep. Henry Waxman
    17. "In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

      "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
      Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton
    18. "The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops.

      "Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened."
      Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy
    19. "There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons... — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. Bob Graham
    20. But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their families.

      "To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

      Congressional Record — Sen. Joseph Biden
    21. "With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents?
      Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

      Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry
    22. "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

      "Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq's efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002
     
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    [QUOTE]It's 2011 and we still haven't found any WMD in Iraq. And as for Bush's infamous "Mission Accomplished" statement? I'd say that was one of the biggest lies in history. Also - do you remember any other time when a US President wore a military uniform while in office? Bush looked like a younger, dumber version of Fidel Castro when he made that statement while wearing a military uniform. He looked like an American version of North Korea's "Dear Leader". Ok first off I asked you HOW the "mission accomplished" statement was a lie. You respond by saying "it was a lie". Um....ok....so you STILL haven't answered HOW it was a lie. As for the military uniform? Um....it was a flight suit that he wore when he flew in the fighter jet. Here's a little education for you. Flight suits aren't a costume. Flight suits actually serve a purpose when flying fighter jets. Because of the speeds fighter jet get to the flight suits serve a purpose by keeping blood flow to avoid passing out. As for WMD's, Why aren't you complaining about all of these people lying???: "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 www.cnn.com/US/9802/04/us.un.iraq/ " target="_blank" /> Quoted on CNN "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/ " target="_blank"> Quoted on CNN Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_tpo.html " target="_blank"> Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998 www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/02/20/98022006_tpo.html " target="_blank"> Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998 www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Letters,%20reports%20and%20statements/levin-10-9-98.html " target="_blank"> See letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 www.house.gov/pelosi/priraq1.htm " target="_blank"> Statement by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 www.clw.org/pub/clw/coalition/albright111099.htm+Madeleine+Albright,+Hussein+has+chosen+to+spend+his+money+on+building&hl=en " target="_blank"> Answer to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001 Letter to President George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman. " We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002 www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/iraq_12-10.html " target="_blank"> Online with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm " target="_blank"> Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-23-gore-text_x.htm " target="_blank"> Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 U.S. Senate — Ted Kennedy "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 Congressional Record — Robert Byrd "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002 Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 Congressional Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 Congressional Record — Rep. Henry Waxman "In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton "The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops. "Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002 Congressional Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy "There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons... — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 Congressional Record — Sen. Bob Graham But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their families. "To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden Congressional Record — Sen. Joseph Biden "With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents? Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002 Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal. "Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq's efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002
    Posted by WIIN12AM[/QUOTE]

    Look, for about the 100th time, WMD were found in Iraq.  That is an undisputable fact.  I have posted reports on the actual finds countless times.

    Don't ask me to defend the mainstream media, whihc just keeps reporting this fallacy, or the Bush administation, whihc obviously is afraid to stand up on this item.

    Just to preempt you, here is a link:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM

     
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    [QUOTE] As for the military uniform? Um....it was a flight suit that he wore when he flew in the fighter jet. Here's a little education for you. Flight suits aren't a costume. Flight suits actually serve a purpose when flying fighter jets. Because of the speeds fighter jet get to the flight suits serve a purpose by keeping blood flow to avoid passing out.
    ----
    Bunnypants Boosh did not land on that aircraft carrier in a fighter jet.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : [QUOTE] As for the military uniform? Um....it was a flight suit that he wore when he flew in the fighter jet. Here's a little education for you. Flight suits aren't a costume. Flight suits actually serve a purpose when flying fighter jets. Because of the speeds fighter jet get to the flight suits serve a purpose by keeping blood flow to avoid passing out. ---- Bunnypants Boosh did not land on that aircraft carrier in a fighter jet.
    Posted by AlleyCatBruin[/QUOTE]

    More mindless drivel.  President Bush landed on that aircraft carrier in an S-3 Viking while sitting in the co-pilots seat, which I'm pretty sure justifies the flight suit...
     
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    Poor Skeeter doesn't like to read all that much. No credible source will say that there was WMD's in Iraq. Even the CIA and ISG both said no such weapons were found. Skeeter how does that EGG taste which is all over your face ? Bronx Cheer !
     
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    [QUOTE]Brat wrong again ! 1994 there was a hijacking of a Air France plane. There was fears that the plane would be blown up over or allowed to crash into the Eiffel Tower. There was also fears that if that plane was allowed into US airspace that it might have been crashed into buildings along the eastcoast. Brat I could make a living setting you straight.
    Posted by 8101956[/QUOTE]
    And you would be a very poor man! That flight never attempted not requested to go to the US. It was an Algerian terrorist group upset with France and only France. But nice try! They also never got to the root of the attempt. The two theories were A. to possibly fly to Paris and explode it over the city or B. fly to a sympathetic middle eastern country for support.The US was NEVER part of ANY discussion.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : [QUOTE] As for the military uniform? Um....it was a flight suit that he wore when he flew in the fighter jet. Here's a little education for you. Flight suits aren't a costume. Flight suits actually serve a purpose when flying fighter jets. Because of the speeds fighter jet get to the flight suits serve a purpose by keeping blood flow to avoid passing out. ---- Bunnypants Boosh did not land on that aircraft carrier in a fighter jet.
    Posted by AlleyCatBruin[/QUOTE]
    Ahhh, yes he did!
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for setting us straight,  WIIN12AM I never realized that it was the Democrats who made Bush start the war with Iraq.  Surely that all shows up in his new biography. And Skeeter, good digging.  We all know the NY Post, not to mention Fox News, will set us right on this issue.  The operative text from Wired, which the Post used as its source, went like this: An initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence of some massive  WMD  program by the Saddam Hussein regime — the Bush administration’s most (in)famous rationale for invading Iraq. But chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal,  largely destroyed after the Gulf War , remained. So apparently the Post missed the words "doesn't reveal evidence..." As an aside, I applaud your obvious enthusiasm for Wikileaks -- keep reading. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/
    Posted by Ergoetal[/QUOTE]


    As skeeter would say....


    ...crickets...
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for setting us straight,  WIIN12AM I never realized that it was the Democrats who made Bush start the war with Iraq.  Surely that all shows up in his new biography. And Skeeter, good digging.  We all know the NY Post, not to mention Fox News, will set us right on this issue.  The operative text from Wired, which the Post used as its source, went like this: An initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence of some massive  WMD  program by the Saddam Hussein regime — the Bush administration’s most (in)famous rationale for invading Iraq. But chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal,  largely destroyed after the Gulf War , remained. So apparently the Post missed the words "doesn't reveal evidence..." As an aside, I applaud your obvious enthusiasm for Wikileaks -- keep reading. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/
    Posted by Ergoetal[/QUOTE]

    So, I guess your statement there were NO WMD in Iraq needs to be modified to there were NOT ENOUGH WMD found in Iraq, no?

    Yellow cake: 550 tons.  Saddam had it, didn't report it, we found it, removed it.  I'll even use a moonbat trusted source, MSNBC:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/

    No.  Nothing to see here.  move along.
     
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    Skeeter, even Rumsfeld admits he misspoke about  WMD sites in Iraq. His misstatements help lead Americans into war where some were KIA, MIA and someother will never be psychology the same while you were safe at home burying your money in coffee cans in your yard. Do you still raise your American Flag in your front yard every A.M. or still have the bumper sticker on you on 1984 Chevy Chevette that states "These Color Won't Run"?  You Chicken Hawk !Bronx Cheer ! Semper Fi !
     
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    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]Skeeter, even Rumsfeld admits he misspoke about  WMD sites in Iraq. His misstatements help lead Americans into war where some were KIA, MIA and someother will never be psychology the same while you were safe at home burying your money in coffee cans in your yard. Do you still raise your American Flag in your front yard every A.M. or still have the bumper sticker on you on 1984 Chevy Chevette that states "These Color Won't Run"?  You Chicken Hawk !Bronx Cheer ! Semper Fi !
    Posted by 8101956[/QUOTE]

    So, you are denying that SOME WMD, including 550 tons of yellow cake were found in Iraq?  Are you blind?
     
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    Skeeter the yellow cake that you speak of was from the early 1980. It was legally stored by Iraq, it wasn't weapon grade. It was known to the UN and the International Atomic Energy Agency.  Bush use it for a reason to go to war, a smoking gun is what he said ( In the shape of a mushroom cloud)  . He lied us into that war, PAL. BTW I don't get your point about being blind. What does that mean ? But I do have a question for you. Why and who outed Valerie Plame ? Bronx Cheer !







     
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    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : More mindless drivel.  President Bush landed on that aircraft carrier in an S-3 Viking while sitting in the co-pilots seat, which I'm pretty sure justifies the flight suit...
    Posted by Rushfan2112[/QUOTE]
    An S-3 Viking is not a fighter jet and a military uniform is not required to sit in the co-pilots seat - unless you are Fidel Castro.
     
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    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : So, you are denying that SOME WMD, including 550 tons of yellow cake were found in Iraq?  Are you blind?
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    Good Lord.  Stop your flailing.

    Stored non-weapon grade yellow cake is not a "WMD"

    An explodable atomic bomb is a "WMD"

     
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    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : An S-3 Viking is not a fighter jet and a military uniform is not required to sit in the co-pilots seat - unless you are Fidel Castro.
    Posted by AlleyCatBruin[/QUOTE]

    I didn't characterize it as a fighter jet, but it is a twin engine jet initially designed for anit-submarine warfare, if Lockheeds website can be trusted.  As for the flight suit, I'm not sure that is a "uniform" more than necessary equipment needed to fly and is probably milatary policy for pilots...remember President Bush was (1) A pilot, and (2) Commander In Chief...
     
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    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : Good Lord.  Stop your flailing. Stored non-weapon grade yellow cake is not a "WMD" An explodable atomic bomb is a "WMD"
    Posted by WhatIsItNow[/QUOTE]

    So, if I had a pistol in my right pocket and bullets in my left, would you consider me unarmed?
     
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    Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States

    So, moonbats, what does a President do with 'intelligence reports'?   Tell us, please :

    In early 2001, ambiguous general 'intelligence reports'  about Bin Laden said he wanted to commit terror in the US, with few details available. 

    According to Monday-morning QB Bush-hating moonbats, we should have immediately invaded Pakistan and suffered thousands of casualties to get Bin Laden and kill him... 

    In 2003, intelligence reports from Germany, England, France, and the US unanimously concluded Sadam Hussein had WMD, which means there was imminent danger of a mass casulty event in the Middle east or even in the US.
    However, in this case, Monday-morning QB Bush-hating moonbats say Bush should have known the intelligence reports were all wrong !!
     
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    Hey, where were you clowns when Saddam and his sons were committing genocide and torturing their own people?

    Where were you when Hosni Mubarak was making Egyptians who opposed him disappear?
     
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    [QUOTE]" So, if I had a pistol in my right pocket and bullets in my left, would you consider me unarmed?" No, I'd consider you a typical trash-talking rightie. Who you getting lessons from, Ms. Palin?
    Posted by Ergoetal[/QUOTE]

    That was good for a chuckle.  You have no basis to conclude that I am left, right or neutral...but you jump to conclusions anyway...how sad.

    Would you care to stick to the subject and actually answer the question?
     
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    Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States

    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : I didn't characterize it as a fighter jet, but it is a twin engine jet initially designed for anit-submarine warfare, if Lockheeds website can be trusted.  As for the flight suit, I'm not sure that is a "uniform" more than necessary equipment needed to fly and is probably milatary policy for pilots...remember President Bush was (1) A pilot, and (2) Commander In Chief...
    Posted by Rushfan2112[/QUOTE]
    Have you seen any other President in a military uniform? Bush was a failed dictator and you know it.
     
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    BoBIN you are an A55HOLE that I would love to see die a horrible death along with all your southern right wing ilk
     
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    To BobinVA I never agee with you at all but do me a FAVER and IGNORE that fool. IT must be the first time that JERK got a chance to use a computer without his parents watching ! I wouldn't even wish that immature jerk onto your side of the aisle. Semper Fi !
     
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    Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States

    In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States : Have you seen any other President in a military uniform? Bush was a failed dictator and you know it.
    Posted by AlleyCatBruin[/QUOTE]

    Actually, Yes.  But the flight suit you are squeaking about is less a uniform rather than gear...and since he was a pilot and sitting in the co-pilots seat, there is justification for that.  But you're so narrow minded and blinded by hate you can't recognize that.  Oh, did he give the speech in that flight suit or a business suit?
     
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