Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

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    Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    I listen to all the banter about union and more recently health care.  It seems that the unions feel that all the problems are management, or in the case of teachers, the students, the parents, the school committee, ANYONE other than themselves.

    Liberals always see the blame in someone else, never in themselves.

    So, is the root of liberalism the concept that I am not, cannot, and will not, be responsible for myself?


     
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    Skeeter only in your pea brain is that the foundation of liberalism. Semper Fi !

     
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    You nailed it!
     
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    Checked out by Snopes.com. Liberalism
    A person whose brain developed under the caring guidance of the prog establishment. A Prog/Lib / Socialist / Demorat brain is hard to map because it undergoes perpetual reshuffling of its centers and synapses. Generally it can be characterized by a compassionate concern for not taxing the rich enough, combined with generosity in spending other people's money. A liberal brain is known to have a well-developed "blame-America" synapse, a benign Envy Center, a Global Warming Panic Center, the Entitlement Synapse, Moral Relativity Gray Area, and a "P.C. Lobe" responsible for speech codes, multiculturalism, racial quotas, and alternative lifestyles (not excluding sex with children or siblings). The underdeveloped areas of a Liberal Brain usually include those that handle common sense, personal responsibility, sense of humor, patriotism, and work ethics. The eternal motivational force that keeps a liberal going is typically a daily dose of ingratitude combined with the dialectical struggle of the opposites - the feeling of being a victim of oppression and the feeling of guilt for oppressing others at the same time.
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    sweeping generalizations make for a weak argument.

    Is the foundation of conservatism formed on taking from the poor to enrich the wealthy?


    see
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    Liberalism supports the idea of liberty (hence the name).   This concept is apparently very difficult for some conservatives to understand.

    And yes, sometimes you need the government to fully access liberty.  Again, something a lot of conservatives have difficulty in understanding.

     
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    The problem with the democratic and republican parties is the radical wings of both sides. The extreme right of the republican party is more of a danger to our way of life than the reasonable and peaceful far left is because the right control a corrupt SCOTUS. They have made several unethical rulings over the last decade that have benefited only a few well connected people and corporations starting from Bush v Gore to Citizen United v FEC. The right have more money and power to control what news and information is spread to the population. The right is looking out for the well being of only a relative few of our counrty's citizens. A majority of people in this country are either too dumb or too lazy to search for information to help them mold a well informed opinion on what is really going on in politics and in the world around them.  If the bulk of our citizens would just take the time to change the T.V. or radio station and listen to an alternative view, they would be more educated about issues that affect their everyday life and I'm sure they would start supporting a less conservative agenda that really isn't representing their best interests. The people of this country should take a good look at the neo-con's policies of the last 30 years and how these policies have lead us to the problems we are facing today. The country's economy , the lowering of our wages, the out of control costs and availability of healthcare, the lack of an alternative energy policy, the attack on public education for our children, and how they destroyed our military and our reputation around the world are just a few examples of their failed and selfish strategies.  The sociopaths on the right are the ones who place the blame on everything and everybody else but themselves. They are the catalyst preventing progress being achieved on the struggles facing our country and the world in 2011. Semper Fi!

     
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    Liberalism supports the idea of liberating (hence the name).

    Intent or act of liberating property from morally wrong private possession. Considered illegal under capitalist law and stigmatized by such non-words as shoplifting, looting, thievery, piracy, larceny, robbery, welfare and vandalism. Also known as the "five-finger discount" in the inchoate progressive sectors of the populace.   Verified by Snopes.com

     
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    sweeping generalizations make for a week argument. Is the foundation of conservatism formed on taking from the poor to enrich the wealthy? see
    Posted by lawboy


    That's the stupidest thing I have heard all day.  If the poor are poor, then they have nothing to take. 

    Sometimes the soundbite doesn't stand up to a logical test.
     
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     The foundation of conservatism is to blame liberals.
    Posted by jedwardnicky


    If the shoe fits...
     
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    Liberalism supports the idea of liberty (hence the name).   This concept is apparently very difficult for some conservatives to understand. And yes, sometimes you need the government to fully access liberty.  Again, something a lot of conservatives have difficulty in understanding.
    Posted by Reubenhop


    Wish that it were, wish that it were.

    I'm trying to figure out how to access my liberty under the new Obamacare law, the constant taking of my liberty to strap a gun on my  hip, and of course, my favorite, the liberty the left takes with my hard earned money, when I'm working, of course.
     
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    I blame you for everything that is wrong in the world...happy now.
     
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    I blame you for everything that is wrong in the world...happy now.
    Posted by lawboy


    I'm sure that means something to you.  Can you elaborate?
     
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    Liberalism supports the idea of liberating (hence the name). Intent or act of liberating  property from morally wrong private possession. Considered illegal under capitalist law and stigmatized by such non-words as shoplifting, looting, thievery, piracy, larceny, robbery, welfare and vandalism. Also known as the "five-finger discount" in the inchoate progressive sectors of the populace.   Verified by Snopes.com
    Posted by Goright


    You do not know the roots of liberalism.  Read up on Locke and Mill.  You are mixing up Marxism with the ideological roots of this country.  Sloppy.
     
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    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : Wish that it were, wish that it were. I'm trying to figure out how to access my liberty under the new Obamacare law, the constant taking of my liberty to strap a gun on my  hip, and of course, my favorite, the liberty the left takes with my hard earned money, when I'm working, of course.
    Posted by skeeter20


    How to access liberty through Obamacare?  Easy.  If you didn't have access to healthcare, now you do.  Huge change in your life: freedom from the fear of being sick, broke and without medical support.
     
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    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : How to access liberty through Obamacare?  Easy.  If you didn't have access to healthcare, now you do.  Huge change in your life: freedom from the fear of being sick, broke and without medical support.
    Posted by Reubenhop


    Oh, I didn't realize the 72% health insurance premium increase that BCBS just hit my employer with because of Obama-care actually IMPROVED access.  All I know is it raised the cost of doing business for my company by $14 million a year.  That $14 million COULD'VE created 280 $50,000 a year jobs in my company.  Now that's off the table.  Thanks, Obama!
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : How to access liberty through Obamacare?  Easy.  If you didn't have access to healthcare, now you do.  Huge change in your life: freedom from the fear of being sick, broke and without medical support.
    Posted by Reubenhop



    Everyone had access to healthcare BEFORE Obama care.  Obama care is actually limiting your choice.  Read the bill and find out how.  I did.
     
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    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : Oh, I didn't realize the 72% health insurance premium increase that BCBS just hit my employer with because of Obama-care actually IMPROVED access.  All I know is it raised the cost of doing business for my company by $14 million a year.  That $14 million COULD'VE created 280 $50,000 a year jobs in my company.  Now that's off the table.  Thanks, Obama!
    Posted by Beltway


    You think that was created by Obamacare?  Something not yet even fully implemented?  Healthcare costs have exploded over the two decades.  The profit driven system we have is the culprit for that trend and the trend continues.  Connect the dots.
     
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    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : Everyone had access to healthcare BEFORE Obama care.  Obama care is actually limiting your choice.  Read the bill and find out how.  I did.
    Posted by skeeter20


    Nonsense.  Preexisting conditions.  Look it up.   And that is just the most obvious example.
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : Nonsense.  Preexisting conditions.  Look it up.   And that is just the most obvious example.
    Posted by Reubenhop


    Anyone can walk into a hospital and get care prior to Obama care.  There goes your access to healthcare argument.

    I have had a preexisting condition all my life, and have never had trouble getting health care.  There goes your pre-existing argument.

    Do I get to keep my own doctor?  Well, no.  Look it up.  Once I change health plans, I am put into the government plan forcibly. 

    So much for choice.  Seems like I am actually limited.
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : Oh, I didn't realize the 72% health insurance premium increase that BCBS just hit my employer with because of Obama-care actually IMPROVED access.  All I know is it raised the cost of doing business for my company by $14 million a year.  That $14 million COULD'VE created 280 $50,000 a year jobs in my company.  Now that's off the table.  Thanks, Obama!
    Posted by Beltway


    Save your breath.  Reuben doesn't want to hear the truth.  It interferes with his ideology.
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?:
    In Response to Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology? : You think that was created by Obamacare?  Something not yet even fully implemented?  Healthcare costs have exploded over the two decades.  The profit driven system we have is the culprit for that trend and the trend continues.  Connect the dots.
    Posted by Reubenhop


    You're the one that needs to connect the dots.  Why have so many corporations taken write-downs against profitability THIS YEAR in the billions of dollars they attribute to the costs associated with Obama-care?  Why did my company's health care premiums rise 72% without changing our plan other than those things Obama-care mandates....like covering children up to 26 years old under their parents' plan......when the usual annual premium increases were under 10%?  Why did the CEO of Starbucks recently withdraw his support for Obama-care when he realized the costs associated with it we going to impact his business dramatically?  To the point he might have to drop health care for some employees altogether and throw them to the wolves.  Funny, McDonald's and Wal-Mart realized the same thing.  So did AT&T. 

    Your messiah, Obama, did NOTHING in his plan to control costs.  Quite the opposite, he's RAISED the cost for everyone, individuals and businesses.  He's done NOTHING to lower the cost of delivering health care or purchasing prescription drugs for most of us.  Wasn't that the point of reform?  Well, for most Americans, yes, that's what they wanted.  But what Obama calls change and reform, is just putting another 30 million people on the health care rolls and then asking the rest of us to pay for it.  That's not the answer and that's why Obama-care is going to be dismantled piece by piece.  It's all just ANOTHER BIG OBAMA LIE!
     
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    Re: Is the foundation of liberalism formed on a blame someone else ideology?

    Interesting how the right accuses the left of playing the 'blame game' when they have been doing nothing but blaming Obama for everything since he took office. Guess it goes both ways, doesn't it?

     
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    Interesting how the right accuses the left of playing the 'blame game' when they have been doing nothing but blaming Obama for everything since he took office. Guess it goes both ways, doesn't it?
    Posted by bill1013


    After 8 years of the left blaming Bush for everything...

    I think the issue is that the left never sees flaws in it's ever so thin thought process.   In an attempt to make sense out of this rolling mess we call living on planet Earth, they conjure up Halliburton weather machines and the like.  Sure, some on the right do this as well, but with all the liberal union activity, you have to wonder is this blame someone else for their own problems is systemic to the faith.
     
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