Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

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    Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    Here’s a video that shows 2 “squibs” blowing out of the West side of WTC2 during the collapse. There were many more squibs, on other sides of both Towers, and available on other videos, but these two are really all that we need to examine for now.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSy84SPJLo&feature=player_embedded#!


    These squibs appeared about 300 milliseconds apart, yet they are separated by over 35 floors from each other, the top one is at least 15 floors from the line of collapse and the bottom one is over 50 floors from the line of collapse.

    Debunkers, when confronted by this fact, always say it was compressed debris being forced down and out of a window.  They sometimes like to use the metaphor of a bicycle pump forcing air downwards and out.  Does that make sense to you?

    The design of the Towers proves their story is impossible.

    Both WTC1 and WTC2 were a unique design that was intended to offer flexible and virtually boundless floor space to accommodate any desired office configuration.  It was originally completely wide open around the central core and elevator shafts, as this diagram illustrates. The turquoise lines are the trusses that compose the floors, this diagram shows 2 floors, on below the other.



    Here is a photo of one WTC office, showing the open floor space, and exterior walls with the signature narrow windows.



    Each of the 100 floors consisted of a minimum of 4 inches of poured concrete on a 2” sheet of steel decking, supported by a series of trusses.




    There is no way that a blast of air and pulverized dust could make its way down 15 and 50 floors to be ejected simultaneously through a single window each.  If there was some way this jet of pressurized debris could make its way down to the respective ejection points, the open floor plan would have dissipated the jet of debris across the entire open office space, either blowing out numerous windows, or just dumping the debris on the floor.

    There is absolutely no way it could have been focused onto one single window, to eject at 60 miles per hour in milliseconds from the collapse over 50 floors above. 

    Furthermore, if you look at the Towers you will see that there were two darker-color bands several floors high, at the one third and two third mark in height.  These were called Sky Lobbies, and they were unoccupied space devoted to heavy equipment, and also as a buffer zone between the 3 sections of each tower, intended to eliminate the “chimney effect” by isolating the sections almost completely, in case of a fire.  If you watch the video, you will see the lower squib is below the first Sky Lobby, yet it blew out almost exactly at the same moment.  Think about the impossibility of that.




    What we are seeing here is unexplained, but is most likely cutter charges that detonated prematurely.  But whatever they were, they certainly were not debris from 50 floors above, through 50 cement floors, to be ejected out of one single window.

     

     
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    Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    One of the characteristics of the 9/11 "truth" movement, and charlatans of all persuasians is that they constantly repeat things, even after they have been proven to be false.
    Don't know if Grim knows he is lying , or just wacky. That is up to his psychiatrist, to adjust the meds.

    In the case of the so called "squibs", even "Box Boy" Richard Gage, the founder of the wackjob 'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth',  doesnt think the squibs are evidence of a controlled demolition!
    If even Box Boy thinks you are kooky, then you are way way out there, in Sofia Sasquat 'laser beams' and 'no planes hit the towers'...
     
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    Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    In such a poor image, those arrows look like they are pointing to debris from post impact stress. Like windows coming out of frames when the building took a hit more than 10 times the horizontal shear it was designed for.
     It was not really expected to completely survive a plane impact just not to fall before an evacuation.
     To survive the impact and stay standing required plates on those blue beams you picture that were not used. They would have maintained the floor beam position by extending the support by 12 inches at the end of each beam. That would allow the building to expand horizontally up to 6-8 feet before the beam fell from the ceiling to the floor below. The impact of a floor beam fall would be enough to compromise the structure below unless it fell perfectly on a non displaced beam. if it missed by 2 feet either way it would punch through the floor.
    Occams razor says YOU FAIL. You have not proved anything. Those are not squibs. Early on the failure of the developer to use the beam ties was identified as a floor collapse scenario. The reason He did not use them was the exterior skin concept. He argued successfully that the skin would distributed impact stress and prevent point failure in the floor beam structure. Unfortunately the plane was bigger and heavier and likely faster than the slide rules the engineers used to calculate the stresses.

    Oh the last thing. You would never see the squib outside. Those charges would HAVE to be in the core over 100 ft from the windows. The external skin  being cut with charges would have resulted in an asymetric collapse not to mention that the flame and smoke of those charges do not show on video either. Have you ever seen a thermite charge go off? Those are not squibs, there are not enough of them, and your vid explanation is bogus.
     
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    Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    In Response to Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition:
    [QUOTE]In such a poor image, those arrows look like they are pointing to debris from post impact stress. Like windows coming out of frames when the building took a hit more than 10 times the horizontal shear it was designed for.  It was not really expected to completely survive a plane impact just not to fall before an evacuation.  To survive the impact and stay standing required plates on those blue beams you picture that were not used. They would have maintained the floor beam position by extending the support by 12 inches at the end of each beam. That would allow the building to expand horizontally up to 6-8 feet before the beam fell from the ceiling to the floor below. The impact of a floor beam fall would be enough to compromise the structure below unless it fell perfectly on a non displaced beam. if it missed by 2 feet either way it would punch through the floor. Occams razor says YOU FAIL. You have not proved anything. Those are not squibs. Early on the failure of the developer to use the beam ties was identified as a floor collapse scenario. The reason He did not use them was the exterior skin concept. He argued successfully that the skin would distributed impact stress and prevent point failure in the floor beam structure. Unfortunately the plane was bigger and heavier and likely faster than the slide rules the engineers used to calculate the stresses. Oh the last thing. You would never see the squib outside. Those charges would HAVE to be in the core over 100 ft from the windows. The external skin  being cut with charges would have resulted in an asymetric collapse not to mention that the flame and smoke of those charges do not show on video either. Have you ever seen a thermite charge go off? Those are not squibs, there are not enough of them, and your vid explanation is bogus.
    Posted by topaz978[/QUOTE]

    Please dont rely on the still screen shot to determine what those arrows are pointed at - watch the video, then you will see them in realtime.

    You seem to know what these are not, but how about a wild guess at what they are? 

    These are amazing anomalies, and considering they occurred on both towers during the collapse sequence, and on multiple sides of both towers, they require some explanation for what they are and why they happened - and the debunker nonsense of ejected debris from 50 floors above just dosen't cut it.
     
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    Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    In Response to Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition:
    [QUOTE]One of the characteristics of the 9/11 "truth" movement, and charlatans of all persuasians is that they constantly repeat things, even after they have been proven to be false. Don't know if Grim knows he is lying , or just wacky. That is up to his psychiatrist, to adjust the meds. In the case of the so called "squibs", even "Box Boy" Richard Gage, the founder of the wackjob 'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth',  doesnt think the squibs are evidence of a controlled demolition! If even Box Boy thinks you are kooky, then you are way way out there, in Sofia Sasquat 'laser beams' and 'no planes hit the towers'...
    Posted by BobinVa[/QUOTE]

    So, you're quoting Richard Gage as a respectable and knowledgeable source of 9/11 information?

    It's truly amazing how far you have advanced, and it's personally gratifying to realize I had something to do with it.
     
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    Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition

    In Response to Re: Squibs - More Proof of a Pre-Planned Controlled Demolition:
    [QUOTE]One of the characteristics of the 9/11 "truth" movement, and charlatans of all persuasians is that they constantly repeat things, even after they have been proven to be false. Don't know if Grim knows he is lying , or just wacky. That is up to his psychiatrist, to adjust the meds. In the case of the so called "squibs", even "Box Boy" Richard Gage, the founder of the wackjob 'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth',  doesnt think the squibs are evidence of a controlled demolition! If even Box Boy thinks you are kooky, then you are way way out there, in Sofia Sasquat 'laser beams' and 'no planes hit the towers'...
    Posted by BobinVa[/QUOTE]

    I have had enough of your childish crap.

    You work for the government, protecting the 9/11 perps, and the sickening thing is, that means I pay your freekin salary.

    Someday, we will meet, and then ...
     
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