Re: Supreme Courts Slaps 9/11 Famillies in Face; Protects Saudis Instead
posted at 7/7/2009 10:33 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Supreme Courts Slaps 9/11 Famillies in Face; Protects Saudis Instead
"It makes much more sense to assume that if they did it once, they could do it again" How inane is that statement? "they did it once" ..yes , in 1989, the CIA did its job well in the Cold War , by helping Afghan resistance fighters against Soviet occupiers. How does that support the troofer lunacy that in 2001, the CIA treasonously and deliberately plotted a mass terror attack against the US? It doesnt. You have no evidence, just paranoia. None.. Zilch... nada. Your paranoia assumes the CIA is all powerful. How many visas are given out annually? ...Is there ever a mistake or error in your paranoid mind, or is it all a plot? The intelligence services were not perfect,they screwed up prior to 9/11. To claim that Al Qaeda is a CIA plot is paranoid lunacy. And racist, of course, assuming "Arabs" could never get the better of the CIA. At least to the extent of pulling off a terror attack.
Posted by BobinVa
Bob. You need to pay attention to what you're responding to.
Look again. There are links to reports by congress, showing that the practice of issuing 'questionable' visas continued right up through 1999, at least. Congress, Bob, not Prison Planet. Why don't you FOR ONCE, go read the links I provided, instead of tossing sand in the playground?
As for the AQ being a 'creation' of the CIA - again, I'm only going by what members of our own government have said. Which again, you will find just above, in the links I provided.
And of course, there can really be no debate about the FBI's decision to supply the 1993 bombers real instead of inert materials, thanks to the decision by the informant to record a conversation with his handler. This made all the mainstream news outlets, Bob. It's not exactly Prison Planet material.
I give you witnesses from within the embassies, reports by congress, investigations by the BBC, etc... and you just ratchet up the wall of insults....
Have you ever even CONSIDERED, that you might possibly be mistaken? Even just from the perspective of attempting to be scientific about it, rather that so rabidly ideological?
Once again - I'm sorry this is so upsetting for you. It's upsetting for all of us, really. Despite what you think, I do not take pleasure in any of this.
Perhaps from the perspective of the people who allowed these things to happen, it is not treason, but a necessary though difficult decision, in order to move our country towards military intervention in the ME, so that we might proactively secure access to a resource without which our country will essentially implode - that being oil, of course. Whether you yourself believe in Peak Oil or not, writings from within the government suggest that our leaders do. There is great concern that human kind is reaching a tipping point in terms of population and access to vital resources, and it may be the belief of some, that sacrificing 3,000 Americans is justifiable if it enables them to take steps to preserve thousands more. It's twisted - it involves a serious God complex - but it might just be the way it is.
Did you know, btw, that back when I came out of high school and went to college, I went to DC, so I could study international relations, and dreamt myself of possibly working for the State Department, or maybe even the CIA? The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a part of it all, but I still wanted to help my country. That's all I've ever really wanted to do Bob- help people. Be of service. I thought it would be in government, but that wasn't to be. So instead, I focussed on helping people on a different scale, and I spent a decade or so working with at risk kids, and then kids with disabilities - not because I hate my country, but again, because I've always wanted to be of service to it, but in a way that left me with a clear conscience.
Finally, even having to deal with the bureaucracy of local governments and school systems wore out my patience, and now, I just try to help individuals, via my acupuncture practice, although I still volunteer in my wife's classroom, because I miss being a part of that environment.
Do I really sound like a person who hates my country, or wants to see harm come to people? It'd be a shame if you thought 'yes'.
I just want to know exactly what the phuq is going on, Bob, and I put in a lot of effort to understand it. And I also believe that it is within the power of the citizenry to take control of our government back from the hands of the rich and powerful pr!cks who are in the process of ruining it. I don't want to be responsible by proxy for any of the evil that is done in my name, and I believe that step one in Recovering the Republic, is generating a more common awareness and dialogue about exactly what are the forces of corruption we are up against at the very top. Without such control - without the oversight of moral leaders, I fear that we are headed towards a rapid decline, and years of ever increasing hardship.
This isn't about 'hating America' - this is about wanting to fix it.