You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

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    Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

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    In Response to Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite : MT, welcome back!  Where ya` been? Merry Christmas
    Posted by jmel


    He came back in time to call names and comment on something I never said.  LOL
     
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    KHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In Response to Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite:
    I dunno. He's up there or worse than the Romans. He'd literally slaughter an entire city's inhabitants - all of them - and raze it to the ground whenever he didn't want to hold it. Times were pretty bloody and awful, but he was utterly ruthless. The Romans usually restrained themselves a little and slaughtered maybe half the populace of a conquered city... 
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    He was from Asia he was dealing in the area of China and Persia, the way he grow up the area have a lot to do with how he viewed warfare. 

    But look I am not saying he was not bloody ruthless he was, my main point was to put him in with the actions of Stalin and Hitler, or say Mao is foolish.

    Rome, dealt with there blood lust by feeding Christians to the lions, well the spectators sat and cheered.

    Americans have come a long way, we have football, lol
     
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    Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

    Actually Ron Paul is a liar in so many ways. He has to accept a pension plan as a requirement of employment. What he is really saying is he does not use one particular retirement plan of several offered. He is mandated by law to have money taken out of salary for retirement.
     His healthcare is also mandated by law.
     He also has no idea that a patriot will fight for country and justice overseas if asked by his commander. No other questions for a real soldier. They really do not care about this action or that action that the pols think about. Why?? Because the military has a serious disrepect of pols in congress since they never have a solid position day to day. Congress is so disrespected in the ranks that this survey is a joke.
     
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    Actually Ron Paul is a liar in so many ways. He has to accept a pension plan as a requirement of employment. What he is really saying is he does not use one particular retirement plan of several offered. He is mandated by law to have money taken out of salary for retirement.  His healthcare is also mandated by law.  He also has no idea that a patriot will fight for country and justice overseas if asked by his commander. No other questions for a real soldier. They really do not care about this action or that action that the pols think about. Why?? Because the military has a serious disrepect of pols in congress since they never have a solid position day to day. Congress is so disrespected in the ranks that this survey is a joke.
    Posted by topaz978


    This statement is so misguided I don't even know where to start.  Leaving your ridiculous definition of a patriot alone - Ron Paul is the only politician that has never changed his position - his principles are known and as solid as oak.  Also, its not a survey, he has received more donations from active military personnel than all the other candidates combined.  Congress may be disrespected "in the ranks" but clearly Ron Paul is not.
     
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    Doesn't do any good if his position is nuts. But he has flopped. First he wrote racist newsletters. Then he didn't write them, someone else did, but he had responsibility. Then he didn't write them, didn't know who did, and doesn't have responsibility.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    Yeah, there were some racist statements made in a Newsletter 20 years ago.  He didn't write them, disavowed the statements but says he does bear some moral responsibility becuse the statements were made in his newsletter.  That is all anyone has got on Ron Paul.  There is nothing in his 30-40 years of ACTIONS that show him to be a racist.  People are afraid of Ron Paul because he is proving the policies of the last 30 years to be based on bad economics and bad foreign policy and no one wants to admit they had the wool pulled over their eyes.     

    "First he wrote racist newsletters." - where did you see that? 
     
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    Ron Paul vs B H Obama in 2012.  Then it just wont matter the USA would be doomed either way.
     
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    Doesn't do any good if his position is nuts. But he has flopped. First he wrote racist newsletters. Then he didn't write them, someone else did, but he had responsibility. Then he didn't write them, didn't know who did, and doesn't have responsibility.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    It's just the same, tired lies, being rolled out in desperation that Paul will catch lightning in a bottle and stop their crime syndicate from raping us for trillions.

    So, here we go again, putting this racism crap to bed.

    NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist

    Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment…

    Asked directly if Ron Paul was a racist, Linder responded “No I don’t,” adding that he had heard Ron Paul speak out about police repression of black communities and mandatory minimum sentences on many occasions.

    Dr. Paul has also publicly praised Martin Luther King as his hero on many occasions spanning back 20 years.

     
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    Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

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    In Response to Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite : This statement is so misguided I don't even know where to start.  Leaving your ridiculous definition of a patriot alone - Ron Paul is the only politician that has never changed his position - his principles are known and as solid as oak.  Also, its not a survey, he has received more donations from active military personnel than all the other candidates combined.  Congress may be disrespected "in the ranks" but clearly Ron Paul is not.
    Posted by GhostofLafeyette


    To have a majority support in the "ranks" takes about 550,000. He does not have that from the ranks but current and former military. That is the big lie. The next big lie is that his money comes from donations from the military at all. Just because he has more than any other candidate does not make a majority. That is 50% +1. He does not have that. His principles sank with all of the other folk who did not realize that ww1 changed international politics. The school of thought he believes in died before he was born. And finally what use is a politician at his age who cannot look at the world and have new ideas. We have improved on the iron horse and even have flying machines now, an everlasting light , and vaccum cleaners.
     
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    Ron Paul is supported by teenagers and early twenty-somethings who are politically illiterate. 

    Ron Paul is a racist, and has been known for being such since at latest the 1990s.  And his son made clear that he too is a racist by his attack on civil rights laws.

    The recent confrontation between a reporter and he, about his racist newsletter, made clear his position on "Libertarian" "individual responsibility": he falsely denied the racist views in his newletter were his views -- and denial he did not utter during the 1990s when confronted about those views; instead he denied that those views, which are blatantly racvist, were not racist.

    Dodge and lie all he wants, the fact is that he put his names to those views, and derended rather than repudiated them.

    It's stunning the number of "Occupy" adherents who are politically illiterate: they are against the bailout, he is against the bailout -- but he is also against  the regulation of the economy, Wall St., and banks, which would have prevented the circumstances that necessitated the bailout. 

    Now we'll see them deny that Paul is a racist, despite the abundant and irrefutable evidence for that fact, in order to avoid admitting their enthusiasm for being suckered by the extremist fringe represented by such as Ron Paul (and his son).
     
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    Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

    GhostofLafeyette

    Ron Paul refuses to sign up for the congressional pension plan he would be entitled to in order to avoid receiving gov't money, saying it would be "hypocritical and immoral."
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    Like Rick Perry, Ron Paul talks a good game against "gov't handouts"; but both of them at the same time lobby for Federal monies for their state and district.  Just like his son, Rant Paul, who ran for the Senate promisng, absolutely, to eliminate "earmars".  Then, three minutes after being elected, he began Ranting about how "earmarks" are a good thing.

    This is the reality, political neophyte:

    Regardless what you say on message boards, we elect our congressional delegations to Washington in order to get a piece of the pie.  And if our delegation fails or refuses to get that pie, we elect a delegation that will.  And as there are only two potential "job creators" -- gov't, and the private sector -- we call that pie "creating jobs".
    _____

    By the way, do you actually think the government should provide free healthcare and fat pension plans to US citizens?
    _____

    Yes: because the money used to pay for the "free" healthcare -- which isn't "free": see the words "pay for"? -- and pensions is paid into the tresury by the taxpayers who then receive the "free" health care and pensions they pay for. 

    But if you believe you can do it, I ask that you post, verbatim and in full, the language from the Constitution which PROHIBITS --

    Those who pay the taxes requiring that those taxes be expended to meet the needs of those who pay those taxes.
    _____

    It may be difficult to understand this but the "government" has nothing.
    _____

    False.  We the people are the gov't.  We elect fellow citizens to office to represent us.  As James Madison said: "Government is the means by which the community regulates itself."  So the gov't has that which We the people have.
    _____

    The only way someone or something with nothing can give something to anyone is to take it from someone else.  Yes, that's called stealing.
    _____

    False.  The Founders -- to which Ron Paul's views are OPPOSED -- called it "taxation".  Taxation was not and is not voluntary because selfish sociopaths -- "Libertarians" -- would use the roads and bridges paid for by everyone but themselves.  This is how the Founders expressed that principle in (as example) the first Vermont constitution, framed during July 2-8, 1777:

    "Chap. I., IX.  That every member of society hath a right to be protected in the enjoyment of life, liberty and property, and therefore, is BOUND (my emphasis) to contribute his proportion (as taxes) towards the expense of that protection, and yield his personal service (in well regulated militia), when necessary, or an equivalent thereto (the "equivalent" being the cash to buy his way out of militia duty); . . .nor can any man who is conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms (in well regulated militia), be justly compelled (involuntary) thereto, if he will pay such equivalent . . . ."

    It's exceedingly easy to believe Ron Paul's nonsense: it only requires one be history-illiterate, and a freeloader on everyone else's contribution to the common good.

    Look! 

    That isn't a satellite! 

    That isn't a flying saucer!

    Nor is it Superman!

    It's "Libertarian" pie-in-the-sky!

     
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    . . . .  RON PAUL HAS MORE DONATIONS FROM ACTIVE MILITARY THAN ALL THE POLITICAL WHOARES COMBINED, INCLUDING CURRENT PUPPT IN CHIEF BARRY SOETORO. . . .  Posted by HowDoYouLikeMeNow

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    President Obama's first name is "Barack" and his surname is "Obama".  Your name calling is not only childish, but it is also not argument.  It is simply, in a word, stupid.
     
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    . . . .  Yeah, when I think Stalin I immediately think of democracy.  Fool.  Posted by movingtarget3


    The political spectrum is more complicated than the simpleton's left-right dichotomy.

    Stalin was far left, as Hitler was far right.  The vast majority, however, is moderate; the broad middle between those two extremes.
     
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    Actually Ron Paul is a liar in so many ways. He has to accept a pension plan as a requirement of employment. What he is really saying is he does not use one particular retirement plan of several offered. He is mandated by law to have money taken out of salary for retirement.  His healthcare is also mandated by law.  He also has no idea that a patriot will fight for country and justice overseas if asked by his commander. No other questions for a real soldier. They really do not care about this action or that action that the pols think about. Why?? Because the military has a serious disrepect of pols in congress since they never have a solid position day to day. Congress is so disrespected in the ranks that this survey is a joke.
    Posted by topaz978


    Stupid is as stupid is.

    The fact is that the military is prohibited taking political positions.  Its purpose is to defend the country, under control of Congress and the Commander in Chief, and under order of the Commander in Chief.  It is required to be politically neutral.

    The point being that the military is not intended to overthrow the gov't, regardless whether this or that general of non-com stiff likes the choice of Commander in Chief by the majority of We the people.
     
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    Ron Paul is a totally out of the mainstream lunatic...and a scary lunatic at that. pray to god that his lunatic and brain dead 'followers' don't pull a "Ross Perot' that would give us 4 more years of thew worst president in US history
     
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    In Response to Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite : Stupid is as stupid is. The fact is that the military is prohibited taking political positions.  Its purpose is to defend the country, under control of Congress and the Commander in Chief, and under order of the Commander in Chief.  It is required to be politically neutral. The point being that the military is not intended to overthrow the gov't, regardless whether this or that general of non-com stiff likes the choice of Commander in Chief by the majority of We the people.
    Posted by JNagarya

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    So your telling us that that the millions of people in the military don't vote?
    or listening to your psychobabble ...not ALLOWED to vote?
    yup, stupid is as stupid is...
     
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    Re: You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite

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    In Response to You DON'T Support the troops unless you support Ron Paul; the Troops overwhelming Favorite : _____ President Obama's first name is "Barack" and his surname is "Obama".  Your name calling is not only childish, but it is also not argument.  It is simply, in a word, stupid.
    Posted by JNagarya


    Hey man, when did you crawl out from under your rock?

    It looks like you're part of the all out establishment orchestrated attempt to smear Ron Paul because he'll stop the looting and wars. Just another fraud shilling for the political crime families. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    BTW, I already debunked your pathetic attempt to call Ron a Racist.

    The head of the Austin NAACP says Ron Paul is not a racist. So stick that in your orifice and smoke it, if you like.
     
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    HaHAhahaaha.. . you f*cking truther PUTZ. Everyone who disagrees with the swill you blindly swallowed hook, line, and sinker is either a "sheep" or part of the vast conspiracy!
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    HaHAhahaaha.. . you f*cking LIAR PUTZ.

    Everyone who blindly relies on the MSM for their "News" is a "sheep" because they base their opinions on complete bull sh!t.

    The MSM has even been caught inserting false footage or faking live coverage of an event, to try to pump their "Anti Ron Paul" propaganda.

    So, yeah, if you're dumb enough to rely on complete BS for your "truth", then you ARE a dumb fuc*ing member of the herd. I know that shoe fits you perfectly.
     
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