Obama Administration knows we have a broken immigration system, because they broke it

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    Obama Administration knows we have a broken immigration system, because they broke it

     Two top federal judges Wednesday said the nation’s immigration courts are in chaos, with the backlog of cases at an historic high of 375,000 for just 227 judges, leading to a minimum three-year delay in hearings for illegal immigrants.


     


    In Washington to take advantage of the current crisis to demand a new court system, the judges accused the Justice Department of treating their courts like Cinderella’s abusive family by starving them of money and support and blamed the insufficient Justice funding for letting illegals “linger” in the country.


     


    “Immigration courts are the forgotten stepchild,” said Immigration Judge Dana Leigh Marks of San Francisco. She was speaking on behalf of the National Association of Immigration Judges, which she is president of.


     


    Fellow Judge Denise Noonan Slavin, the vice president of the judge’s union, said that the courts have the “status of Cinderella,” having to scrounge for supplies, support and money. She said that the lack of money forces judges to delay cases and that is “allowing those who are not entitled to be here, linger.”


     


    During their appearance at a National Press Club event, they also said that the defense lawyers President Obama promised in June have not shown up. Obama pledged $2 million to Americorps, which was to supply the legal aid.


     


    Asked if she had seen any yet, Marks said, “We have not.” Slavin, of Miami, said, “We haven’t seen an impact.”


     


    While the judges said they are feeling pressure to speed up processing of the swarms of unaccompanied children crossing the border in the latest crisis, the caseload of about 1,500 per judge is bogging the system down. Marks said that it can take 15 months before the first hearing for an illegal is held, and then the final court session won’t take place for three to four years.


     


    And the duo said the situation is getting worse — and may prompt judges to quit.


     


    “It’s a high-stress job,” said Marks. She said that there could be a “tsunami of retirements.”


     


    The two judges recommended that the immigration court system be given an independent role, broken off from Justice, and properly funded. Marks said that the number of judges should be doubled.


     


    “We don’t believe the Department of Justice is advocating for us,” said Marks. “We need to have more money.”


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    She said that the lack of money forces judges to delay cases and that is “allowing those who are not entitled to be here, linger.”


    Hate to break it to you but funding is strictly a congressional function ... specifically originating in the wingnut HoR.


    And then there's the wingnut abuse of the filibuster which prompted the nuclear option.


    The last straw came when Republicans announced their intention to filibuster all of Obama's nominees ...


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    Hey CLC, tell those fat federal judges they've had enough cheeseburgers for one day.

     

     
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    Sorry, high road, your knee jerk defense of Obama by blaming Congress doesnt wash... neither does your laughable claim this was caused by filibusters (as an aside,  which Party currently controls the Senate?)

    Immigration and border security are a purely federal issue, and a core function of the executive branch.

    The President and his Justice Dept are in charge of implementing immigration law , and the system is in chaos.

    President Obama has been in office coming on 6 years, and according to the moonbatty logic of high road is not responsible for ...anything.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Sorry, high road, your knee jerk defense of Obama by blaming Congress doesnt wash... neither does your laughable claim this was caused by filibusters (as an aside,  which Party currently controls the Senate?)


    Immigration and border security are a purely federal issue, and a core function of the executive branch.


    The President and his Justice Dept are in charge of implementing immigration law , and the system is in chaos.


    President Obama has been in office coming on 6 years, and according to the moonbatty logic of high road is not responsible for ...anything.


     



    BWAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


    Oh spanky, always good for a laugh.


    Pull down your skirt, your ignorance of civics and the Constitution is ahowing again.


    I guess the whacko wingnut HoR just abdicated their responsibilities of the 'power of the purse'.


    And what do you think the filibuster is, a procedural motion enacted by the majority?


    Oh geepers, it's not even fun debating someone so wilfully ignorant ... keep that head buried.

     
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    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)

     
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    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??


    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)



    In just last 6 months, 37,477 illegal immigrant kids released, only 280 deported......


    Yes, Obama will soon fix it, by a a dictatorial decree announcing amnesty and open borders....yes, quite the fix. Take out the eraser on your North American map, scratch out that dotted line between the US and Mexico...

     
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    Heh, heh, heh ... Ya, those wingnuts are surely 'helping' solve the problem.


    Wingnuts want it fixed but refuse to pay for it. Obstructionist maroons.


    Leading Republican lawmakers balked on Sunday at supporting a White House spending request aimed at bolstering the U.S. border with Mexico, where thousands of children have crossed recently, while calling for changes in the law to allow faster deportations.


    The White House has asked for $3.7 billion in emergency funds to help pay for border security, temporary detention centers and additional immigration court judges to process asylum cases.


    The Obama administration warned lawmakers on Thursday that border security agencies would run out of money this summer if the request were not approved.


    House of Representatives Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers said last week that the Obama administration asked for "too much money" but declined to say what an appropriate figure would be.

     
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    FOcus on employers, not deportation. That's all

     
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    FOcus on employers, not deportation. That's all




    Exactly, if we remove the incentives for illegal immigration then they stop coming and other self deport.

     

    We need to remove all the incentives for illegal immigration; hit employers hard who don't e-verify, require legal status to get government services and stop amnesty programs................which flips illegals to legals and then the candy store is open.

     
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    Congress authorizes funds for specific items. The executive branch spends the money as it is allocated.  They cannot take money from the military and spend it on border issues.  That would be called a misappropriation of funds and is against the law.  Congress could pass a bill with funds allocated specifically for the task of securing borders or funding immigration courts.  But the republican leadership isn't really interested in cracking down on illegal immigration.  The Republican Party has traditionally been extremely soft on illegals because it keeps wages low.  They pay lip service to the issue be use it appeals to the growing racists among the rank and file party members.


    open borders go hand in hand with free markets.  Any student of true free markets knows this.  The 2 biggest factors in making things is labor and capital.  If the movement of labor is hindered by the government, then a market cannot come close to being truly free.


    in other words, people who want to limit entry into the country aren't real libertarians.  They are posers.

     
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    Strange how so many right wingers were silent on this issue when Reagan and Bush opened the borders to illegals. 

     
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    In response to miscricket's comment:

    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)



    True enough.

    So, why isn't Obama fixing it? After all, he has god-like powers.

    ok. I'll answer my own question.  He won't fix it because it is a toofer:

    he gets to blame the congress for executive branch malfeasance, just like the government shut down, with the press gladly, and incorrectly, identifying the problem as congress, and,

    if he does "fix it" it will be towards the ends of growing the Democrat party by importing a voting block.  In other words, not really fix it, just eliminate the borders.

     

     
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    Strange how so many right wingers were silent on this issue when Reagan and Bush opened the borders to illegals. 



    Strange how that wasn't true.  Even Reagan identified it as his single biggest regret.

    Bush, well, he and his brother Jeb are true believers.  Go look up and see what Bush was doing on Sept, 10, 2001. Eye opener.

    but, keep trying.

     
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    Congress authorizes funds for specific items. The executive branch spends the money as it is allocated.  They cannot take money from the military and spend it on border issues.  That would be called a misappropriation of funds and is against the law.  Congress could pass a bill with funds allocated specifically for the task of securing borders or funding immigration courts.  But the republican leadership isn't really interested in cracking down on illegal immigration.  The Republican Party has traditionally been extremely soft on illegals because it keeps wages low.  They pay lip service to the issue be use it appeals to the growing racists among the rank and file party members.


     


    open borders go hand in hand with free markets.  Any student of true free markets knows this.  The 2 biggest factors in making things is labor and capital.  If the movement of labor is hindered by the government, then a market cannot come close to being truly free.


     


    in other words, people who want to limit entry into the country aren't real libertarians.  They are posers.




    If the above budget statement is true (it should be, but it isn't), explain why government shut down last year.


    the Republicans are in on the great immigration lie.


    open borders have nothing to do with free markets,unless you are talking about state borders.


    openborders have everything to do with undermining the sovereignty of the American people toward political ends.


    you can start stuttering now.

     
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    In response to miscricket's comment:

    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)



    True enough.

    So, why isn't Obama fixing it?




    The bolded part is key. As DWL explained, Obama can't move funds from any part of the executive branch to any other part of the executive branch. Nor, as you like to mention, can he legislate.

    So if there isn't the money allocated for more immigration action, and if Obama cannot pass a law allocating such money, just what is he supposed to do?

     
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    Strange how so many right wingers were silent on this issue when Reagan and Bush opened the borders to illegals. 



    Strange how that wasn't true.  Even Reagan identified it as his single biggest regret.

    Bush, well, he and his brother Jeb are true believers.  Go look up and see what Bush was doing on Sept, 10, 2001. Eye opener.

    but, keep trying.



    I don't think Reagan said that.  The deficit was his biggest regret.  Then the Beirut bombings.  It might have been easier if he just listed the things he didn't regret.

     

     
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    In response to miscricket's comment:

    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)



    True enough.

    So, why isn't Obama fixing it?




    The bolded part is key. As DWL explained, Obama can't move funds from any part of the executive branch to any other part of the executive branch. Nor, as you like to mention, can he legislate.

    So if there isn't the money allocated for more immigration action, and if Obama cannot pass a law allocating such money, just what is he supposed to do?



    You are like a trip hammer on blaming congress.

    There are laws in place that are sufficient, that a do nothing president refuses to enforce.

    the bolded part is the key.

    BTW, don't take this as an endorsement of the do nothing Senate, which is Democrat, or the do nothing house, which is republican.  This back and forth on which party is doing what is partisan nonsense.

    but, one observation: funny how when the republicans were in charge, it was the Republicans fault.  Now that the democrats are in charge, it's tRe Republicans fault.

    I think the Democrats are ducking their responsibility for destroying the economy and failing to enforce the border.

     

     
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    In response to slomag's comment:

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    In response to portfilio's comment:

     

    Strange how so many right wingers were silent on this issue when Reagan and Bush opened the borders to illegals. 



    Strange how that wasn't true.  Even Reagan identified it as his single biggest regret.

    Bush, well, he and his brother Jeb are true believers.  Go look up and see what Bush was doing on Sept, 10, 2001. Eye opener.

    but, keep trying.



    I don't think Reagan said that.  The deficit was his biggest regret.  Then the Beirut bombings.  It might have been easier if he just listed the things he didn't regret.

     



    Here:

    "According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the 1986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country. Reagan was uncomfortable with the amnesty but was persuaded by some of the leaders of his own party (still living) that it would only affect a small number of illegal immigrants and would assure that Congress would follow through with more vigorous enforcement of U.S. immigration laws."

     

     
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    Here:

    "According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the 1986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country. Reagan was uncomfortable with the amnesty but was persuaded by some of the leaders of his own party (still living) that it would only affect a small number of illegal immigrants and would assure that Congress would follow through with more vigorous enforcement of U.S. immigration laws."


    This was written by a blogger who never met Edwin Meese and claimed that the quote came from somewhere in the heritage foundation archives, but the quote can't be found.  In other words, he made it up.

    These are Reagan's own words ...

    "I've been asked if I have any regrets. Well, I do," said Reagan. "The deficit is one. I've been talking a great deal about that lately, but tonight isn't for arguments, and I'm going to hold my tongue."

    “When he left office in 1988, during an exit interview with a reporter, Reagan was asked his biggest regret,” Bauer said. “And he said that he regretted that he didn't get enough court appointments to be able to overturn Roe v. Wade.”

    "Sending the Marines to Beirut was the source of my greatest regret and greatest sorrow.''

    I guess he couldn't really make up his mind.  Though in his defense, he was losing it.

     

     
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    In response to miscricket's comment:

    Good grief..the immigration system in this country was broken loooonng before Obama even entered politics. I suppose he could be blamed for not fixing it...but how can he fix it with a do nothing Congress??

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)



    True enough.

    So, why isn't Obama fixing it?




    The bolded part is key. As DWL explained, Obama can't move funds from any part of the executive branch to any other part of the executive branch. Nor, as you like to mention, can he legislate.

    So if there isn't the money allocated for more immigration action, and if Obama cannot pass a law allocating such money, just what is he supposed to do?



    You are like a trip hammer on blaming congress.

    There are laws in place that are sufficient, that a do nothing president refuses to enforce.

    the bolded part is the key.

    BTW, don't take this as an endorsement of the do nothing Senate, which is Democrat, or the do nothing house, which is republican.  This back and forth on which party is doing what is partisan nonsense.

    but, one observation: funny how when the republicans were in charge, it was the Republicans fault.  Now that the democrats are in charge, it's tRe Republicans fault.

    I think the Democrats are ducking their responsibility for destroying the economy and failing to enforce the border.

     

    The OP is specifically about the fallout of enforcing the current law, which grants trials to these illegal immigrants.

    When Republicans were in charge, they didn't try to fix immigration.  Or Health Care.  Or Social Security.  Or Medicare.  Or pension reform.  Or simplify the tax code.  They didn't tackle anything they complain about.

    The Senate passed an immigration bill, supported by the President.  If it doesn't get a vote in the House, that's where you point your fingers. 

     

     
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    Re: Obama Administration knows we have a broken immigration system, because they broke it

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    Congress authorizes funds for specific items. The executive branch spends the money as it is allocated.  They cannot take money from the military and spend it on border issues.  That would be called a misappropriation of funds and is against the law.  Congress could pass a bill with funds allocated specifically for the task of securing borders or funding immigration courts.  But the republican leadership isn't really interested in cracking down on illegal immigration.  The Republican Party has traditionally been extremely soft on illegals because it keeps wages low.  They pay lip service to the issue be use it appeals to the growing racists among the rank and file party members.

     

     

     

    open borders go hand in hand with free markets.  Any student of true free markets knows this.  The 2 biggest factors in making things is labor and capital.  If the movement of labor is hindered by the government, then a market cannot come close to being truly free.

     

     

     

    in other words, people who want to limit entry into the country aren't real libertarians.  They are posers.

     

     



    If the above budget statement is true (it should be, but it isn't), explain why government shut down last year.

     

     

    the Republicans are in on the great immigration lie.

     

    open borders have nothing to do with free markets,unless you are talking about state borders.

     

    openborders have everything to do with undermining the sovereignty of the American people toward political ends.

     

    you can start stuttering now.



    So free markets only exist within a country?  Because everything we make or consume was made with 100% American sourced inputs.  Cash invested in the US is only from Americans?  You're beyond simple minded.

     
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