100% Owned by Democrats!

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    100% Owned by Democrats!

    OK - I'm sitting back and waiting for all these great things to happen to me. Let er rip!

     
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    just like the stimulus

    until, of course, Republicans started cutting ribbons and accepting oversized novelty checks for their districts

    Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan.

    there a're going to be a lot more Republicans begging to be adopted in the near future
     
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    So I guess we can all assume when taxes were lowered people like Hanson who were against lower taxes continued to pay the higher taxes. Thanks for sticking with your convictions.
     
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    America has just witnessed an unconscionable abuse of power. President Obama has betrayed his oath to the nation — rather than bringing us together, ushering in a new kind of politics, and rising above raw partisanship, he has succumbed to the lowest denominator of incumbent power: justifying the means by extolling the ends. He promised better; we deserved better.

    -Mitt Romney, soon to be President of the United States
     
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    Mitt Romney isn't credible on any subject more controversial than "What color is the sky?" And, even then, verify his answer with your own eyes.
     
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    Mitt Romney isn't credible on any subject more controversial than "What color is the sky?" And, even then, verify his answer with your own eyes.
    Posted by Hansonbrother


    Oh the irony...
     
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    Mitt Romney isn't credible on any subject more controversial than "What color is the sky?" And, even then, verify his answer with your own eyes.
    Posted by Hansonbrother


    Your Dem Congress that just delivered us this abortion of a bill has a 10% approval rating today....explain to me where their credibility is???
     
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    Mitt Romney isn't credible on any subject more controversial than "What color is the sky?" And, even then, verify his answer with your own eyes.
    Posted by Hansonbrother

    I guess we all need some of that stuff you're smoking.  I'm not a Romney supporter, but your statement is just BS.  Romney works around the edges and has some revisionist perspectives on his positions, but the President completely hoodwinked the independents/middle into voting for him.  Everyone Knew he was a liberal, never mind the conservative talking points on his affiliates, friends and pastor.  Obama ran his "general" election as a centrist promising to bring us together and he just orchestrated the biggest wedge between the country of any Presidency.  

    He promised in the state of the Union that he got it (Scott Brown election) that people were worried abpout jobs and the economy and then he used 100% of his political capital to get Heathcare passed, and that will be a budget buster.  I know the CBO said we'll save money; after we pay for it half of it with new taxes and the other half by Medicare/Medicad Cuts, like that is going to happen.  Much like the Big Dig; it's cost will grow 10 times its estimate.  The government has no idea how to estimate large programs, never mind the collateral budget damage off the healthcare account  because of all the promises to Congressmen. 
     
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    America has just witnessed an unconscionable abuse of power. President Obama has betrayed his oath to the nation — rather than bringing us together, ushering in a new kind of politics, and rising above raw partisanship, he has succumbed to the lowest denominator of incumbent power: justifying the means by extolling the ends. He promised better; we deserved better....Mitt Romney

    That quote, coming from any Republican, is the most cheeky, ludicrous, out-of-character quote I have ever heard in my entire life.  Gore Vidal was right: the collective memory of the American PUblic is about two weeks. Certainly it must be true for Mitt Romney.

    Oh, and as for the original title of the thread, will the  GOP still be claiming that if it works?  They certainly have changed their tune for Medicare, which was socialized medicine, socialism's first step to destroy the soon to be bankrupt nation...in 1965.
     
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    100% owned by democrats is right. Don't forget it.
    Americans voted for change and they got it.

    After losing the election a year ago, the republicans breathlessly chanted "so where's the change?" in typical schoolyard fashion.
    Well kids, here ya go.

    Next!

    As an aside, massmoderate quotes Teddy "the man who really counts in the world is the doer".

    Who knew that would be Barack Obama.


    I wonder how long it will be before we hear about some redneck hording weapons and bunkering up thinking the commies are at the door.
     
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    Mitt Romney, soon to be President of the United States
    Posted by macnh1


    Mitt Romney was responsible for the Massachsetts health care reform. And now you want him for president. The world is a confusing place sometimes.
     
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    And yet uninsured Republicans will also be covered under the new legislation, even though they (supposedly) wanted nothing to do with it.

    What a country!
     
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    On Romney, it is possible to think something is right for your state but not for the country.  States rights isn't just about keeping power.  It is about the states knowing what is better for its citizens than Washington.  FYI, I do not defend supporting the Mass plan, just addressing the idea that you can't have a different position when looking at an issue nationally.

    With respect to uninsured Republicans being covered, that doesn't mean they have to agree with the plan (especially since the law will likely require them to be covered).  The law is the law.  When playing the game, one must abide by the rules until one can change them.  Unfortunately, this law won't ever be changed (except to expand its power).
     
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    And yet uninsured Republicans will also be covered under the new legislation, even though they wanted nothing to do with it. What a country!
    Posted by Mattyhorn


    Because they will be forced into it!!

    The republicans without health insurance wanted a JOB so they could buy their own insurance not a govt handout.
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : Mitt Romney was responsible for the Massachsetts health care reform. And now you want him for president. The world is a confusing place sometimes.
    Posted by Bill.the.Cat



    heh
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : Because they will be forced into it!! The republicans without health insurance wanted a JOB so they could buy their own insurance not a govt handout.
    Posted by sk8ter2008


    Except that a job is not a guarantee of health coverage, much less affordable or even quality coverage.

    If executed properly, however, this legislation makes coverage more likely at that job than it was before.
     
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    100% owned by democrats is right. Don't forget it. Americans voted for change and they got it. 

    As an aside, massmoderate quotes Teddy " the man who really counts in the world is the doer". Who knew that would be Barack Obama. Posted by Bill.the.Cat

    Americans voted against Bush even though he was running because they wantd to end the wars, you're right now these wars are 100% owne by Obama.

    Yes, I do believe American's feel that Obama and the Dems did it to them and todays CNN poll supports your position.

    The (CNN) poll's results about the bill's fiscal impact were particularly stark: 70 percent of respondents said they believed deficits would go up because of the bill; 17 percent felt they would stay the same and 12 percent said they would go down.

    Enjoy your Pyrrhic victory well you can.
     
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    And what is the position of "deficits" on the list of voters' priorities...[besides the fact that the official CBO score notes a net reduction of the deficit]...??

    (Wouldn't want to accuse anyone of cherry-picking stats....)
     
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    And what is the position of "deficits" on the list of voters' priorities...[besides the fact that the official CBO score notes a net reduction of the deficit]...?? (Wouldn't want to accuse anyone of cherry-picking stats....)
    Posted by Mattyhorn


    Matty,


    The rest of the CNN primary points below, I woldn't call it cherry picking although we all do it from time to time, but it was low hanging fruit.

    I for one hold zero faith in the CBO on estimating the costs of major programs effecting up to 1/6th of our economy or up to 25% of our entiltlements budget.  They can't even keep NASA estimates within the margins, well below 1% of the budget or the Big Dig for that matter which rose by a factor of 10 in 20 years.

    A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that 59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill, and 39 percent favored it. All of the interviews were conducted before the House voted Sunday night, but the contents of the bill were widely known.

    In addition, 56 percent said the bill gives the government too much involvement in health care; 28 percent said it gives the government the proper role and 16 percent said it leaves Washington with an inadequate role.


     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : Matty, The rest of the CNN primary points below, I woldn't call it cherry picking although we all do it from time to time, but it was low hanging fruit. I for one hold zero faith in the CBO on estimating the costs of major programs effecting up to 1/6th of our economy or up to 25% of our entiltlements budget.  They can't even keep NASA estimates within the margins, well below 1% of the budget or the Big Dig for that matter which rose by a factor of 10 in 20 years. A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that 59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill, and 39 percent favored it. All of the interviews were conducted before the House voted Sunday night, but the contents of the bill were widely known. In addition, 56 percent said the bill gives the government too much involvement in health care; 28 percent said it gives the government the proper role and 16 percent said it leaves Washington with an inadequate role.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    Oh stop with the scare tactics.  The bill is a done deal.  Just sit back and feel good that whatever happens, they can't take away your health insurance.  Feel good that people with Type I Diabetes can actually consider opening up their own business because they can still get health insurance.  Feel good that people with kids who have chronic illnesses don't have to fear losing their jobs and health insurance.  I have a friend who's son was in remission from bone cancer when he got laid off.  He was terrified that his son's cancer was going to come back after his cobra ran out and before he landed a new job.

    Feel good that all children have health insurance.

    And stop acting like this was a gov't take over of health care.  The only thing this bill did was guarrentee everyone health insurance.  It didn't take over any health insurance companies.  It didn't take over any hospitals.  All it did was add additional regulation to an industry that has been regulated for a long, long time.

    Car insurance is regulated.  Life Insurance is regulated.  property casualty insurance is regulated.  And the Health Insurance industry continues to be regulated.

    And as far as the public goes - most people are idiots as evidenced by the re-election of Dubya.

    It's too bad al of the fiscal conservatives didn't question the Bush administrations estimate of the cost of invading Iraq.  I believe the estimate was $15 billion and that Iraq would be able to pay it back.  The Iraq War did more to strengthen Iran than anything else.
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : Oh stop with the scare tactics.  The bill is a done deal.  Just sit back and feel good that whatever happens, they can't take away your health insurance.  Feel good that people with Type I Diabetes can actually consider opening up their own business because they can still get health insurance.  Feel good that people with kids who have chronic illnesses don't have to fear losing their jobs and health insurance.  I have a friend who's son was in remission from bone cancer when he got laid off.  He was terrified that his son's cancer was going to come back after his cobra ran out and before he landed a new job. Feel good that all children have health insurance. And stop acting like this was a gov't take over of health care.  The only thing this bill did was guarrentee everyone health insurance.  It didn't take over any health insurance companies.  It didn't take over any hospitals.  All it did was add additional regulation to an industry that has been regulated for a long, long time. Car insurance is regulated.  Life Insurance is regulated.  property casualty insurance is regulated.  And the Health Insurance industry continues to be regulated. And as far as the public goes - most people are idiots as evidenced by the re-election of Dubya. It's too bad al of the fiscal conservatives didn't question the Bush administrations estimate of the cost of invading Iraq.  I believe the estimate was $15 billion and that Iraq would be able to pay it back.  The Iraq War did more to strengthen Iran than anything else.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    DW,

    I quoted additional poll numbers after Matty said I was cherry picking.

    Like it or not we have a strong majority that don't like this new healthcare program, actully much higher disapproval then then the small majority thta got Obama elected.  It wouldn't have been devisive if the Dems didn't power it down our throats or invest heavily in pork or special deals to get it done.  If this was an honest, open and transparent Congress a Healthcare Bill could have withstood the deabte and vote on amendments.

    You're right most people are idiots which is why Obama and his charisma worked like an oldtyme snake oil salesman during the general election.   
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : DW, I quoted additional poll numbers after Matty said I was cherry picking. Like it or not we have a strong majority that don't like this new healthcare program, actully much higher disapproval then then the small majority thta got Obama elected.  It wouldn't have been devisive if the Dems didn't power it down our throats or invest heavily in pork or special deals to get it done.  If this was an honest, open and transparent Congress a Healthcare Bill could have withstood the deabte and vote on amendments. You're right most people are idiots which is why Obama and his charisma worked like an oldtyme snake oil salesman during the general election.   
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    so the people were stupid, because the got conned into voting for Obama.

    but we should care about the poll numbers saying they're unhappy


    does
    not
    compute
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : Because they will be forced into it!! The republicans without health insurance wanted a JOB so they could buy their own insurance not a govt handout.
    Posted by sk8ter2008



    Republicans screaming about how wrong it is to "force" things.  I'm choking on the irony.
     
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    In Response to Re: 100% Owned by Democrats! : so the people were stupid, because the got conned into voting for Obama. but we should care about the poll numbers saying they're unhappy does not compute
    Posted by Hansonbrother

    When Obama won, the poll number reflected his victory,....the new poll numbers reflect the Dem loses to come in fall. 
     
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    If this was an honest, open and transparent Congress a Healthcare Bill could have withstood the deabte and vote on amendments.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe



    Yeah. We could honestly debate why the democrats want to kill grandma with "death panels" and conspire to use Obamacare to deny Republicans coverage. 

    Too bad Obama's rational televised arguments, town hall meetings, etc., for health care were not an attempt to engage in honest, open, and transparent debate.

    Man you conservatives are looking more and more like Grimfandango.  Just claim reality is the opposite of what it is, and base your argument on that.
     
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