200+ rockets fored into israel from gaza and the Palestinians post fake injuries and ask the UN to stop israel from retaliation?

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    200+ rockets fored into israel from gaza and the Palestinians post fake injuries and ask the UN to stop israel from retaliation?

    WTFFFF??????

    When is it officially war?

    Will we help israel in a meaningful way or stand on the sidelines?

    What should we do??

     
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    http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/11/15/rockets-strike-tel-aviv-suburb-hamas-debating-further-escalation-as-israel-continues-large-scale-operation/

     
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    There is no military solution to the Gaza situation that the rest of the world will possibly acquiesce to.

    Netanyahu has really stepped in it this time.

    Is it just a coincidence that they launch an offensive against Gaza AGAIN after Obama is elected?  Or just bad timing...?

     

     

     
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    Good question.

    Does Obama have the balls to side with our former ally and plss off the Muslims?

    Will he step back and chicken out?

     

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    Pathetic.

     
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    Sounds to me like Hamas was getting ready in case Israel got involved in Syria or bombed Iran and Israel wanted to neutralize Hamas. 

    It's either an escalation of the issues in Syria or the escalation of the Nuke issue with Iran.  In any event, it involves Iran.

     
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    Sounds to me like Hamas was getting ready in case Israel got involved in Syria or bombed Iran and Israel wanted to neutralize Hamas. 

    It's either an escalation of the issues in Syria or the escalation of the Nuke issue with Iran.  In any event, it involves Iran.

     
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    @ WDYWN:

    "Orthodox Jewish settlers are obviously making quite a bit worse, and Israel needs to seriously step on them more. It's trying."

    Is it?  Really?!

    The escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza on Israeli civilians are unconscionable.  But nothing is this decades-long conflict remotely qualifies as "unprovoked".

    This is essentially a war between two sets of fundamentalists with average citizens on both sides caught in the middle.

     

     
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    Both sides believe god is on their side, so this lunacy will continue no matter what we do.

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
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    What should we do??
    Israel has no need of our troops and we have no need to send them. What we need to do is back Israel up internationally.

    But I'm already on record being strongly opposed to the common Democrat Pol's position on Israel. Israel has been downright stoic in the face of constant endless terrorism, compared to what America did after it got hit, albeit a big hit. 

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    I agree on the troops for sure!

    I also agree on the backing internationally but, alos think we should share/sell military intelligence and weaponry with them as well as replenish any lossses during an extended conflict.

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    @ WDYWN:

    "Orthodox Jewish settlers are obviously making quite a bit worse, and Israel needs to seriously step on them more. It's trying."

    Is it?  Really?!

    The escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza on Israeli civilians are unconscionable.  But nothing is this decades-long conflict remotely qualifies as "unprovoked".

    This is essentially a war between two sets of fundamentalists with average citizens on both sides caught in the middle. 

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    So, Israel building a few apt complexes and homes justifies 200+ rockets launched from civilian neighbors into civilian neighborhoods!??

    Israel is not without fault but, they have never called for the destruction of Palestinians!

    The Palestinians (arafat) was offered a sweet deal that gave him 95% of what he asked for during oslo and what did he do?? He went back to Palestinian territory and declared JIHAD!!

    Geez!!

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    @ WDYWN:

    "Orthodox Jewish settlers are obviously making quite a bit worse, and Israel needs to seriously step on them more. It's trying."

    Is it?  Really?!

    The escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza on Israeli civilians are unconscionable.  But nothing is this decades-long conflict remotely qualifies as "unprovoked".

    This is essentially a war between two sets of fundamentalists with average citizens on both sides caught in the middle.

     

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    There is some truth to what you say.  The timing might be coincidental, but there is no doubt that Hamas rockets have given Netanyahu a vehicle in which to test both Israel's relationship with the Obama adminstraion and the U.S resolve post election.  Unfortunately, this lastest violence may only serve to give rise to extremist elements within both countries and throughout the whole Middle East.

     
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    • GreginMeffa
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    Gotta agree with WDYWN here. What should Bibi do?

    How bout this?

    You can't have Golan, Gaza or the West Bank back, and consider yourselves lucky we let you visit Jerusalem. The next time you decide to let 3 countries use your land to attack us, you'd better win, cuz this is what happens when you don't. K?

     


    True, and it is always the Israelis who are painted as the aggressors.

     
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    In response to polar123's comment:
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    @ WDYWN:

    "Orthodox Jewish settlers are obviously making quite a bit worse, and Israel needs to seriously step on them more. It's trying."

    Is it?  Really?!

    The escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza on Israeli civilians are unconscionable.  But nothing is this decades-long conflict remotely qualifies as "unprovoked".

    This is essentially a war between two sets of fundamentalists with average citizens on both sides caught in the middle.

     

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    There is some truth to what you say.  The timing might be coincidental, but there is no doubt that Hamas rockets have given Netanyahu a vehicle in which to test both Israel's relationship with the Obama adminstraion and the U.S resolve post election.  Unfortunately, this lastest violence may only serve to give rise to extremist elements within both countries and throughout the whole Middle East.

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    Please.

    Bibi has done everything but taken a s**t on Obama's head, and in return, the U.S. and our president have not backed down one iota from its commitment to defend israel...

    ...even so far as to help with money, weapons and the "iron dome" which is currently protecting israel from said hamas rockets.

    Again, it's terrible that innocent people are being killed - again - because the two sides can't come together to stop either bombings or illegal settlements AND because israel always brings a bazooka to a knife fight.

    But it doesn't take long for things like this to spiral out of control, and brute force is not the same thing as strength.  If Bibi's not careful, his ego could be his downfall.

     

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    @ WDYWN:

    "Orthodox Jewish settlers are obviously making quite a bit worse, and Israel needs to seriously step on them more. It's trying."

    Is it?  Really?!

    The escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza on Israeli civilians are unconscionable.  But nothing is this decades-long conflict remotely qualifies as "unprovoked".

    This is essentially a war between two sets of fundamentalists with average citizens on both sides caught in the middle.

     

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    There is some truth to what you say.  The timing might be coincidental, but there is no doubt that Hamas rockets have given Netanyahu a vehicle in which to test both Israel's relationship with the Obama adminstraion and the U.S resolve post election.  Unfortunately, this lastest violence may only serve to give rise to extremist elements within both countries and throughout the whole Middle East.

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    Please.

    Bibi has done everything but taken a s**t on Obama's head, and in return, the U.S. and our president have not backed down one iota from its commitment to defend israel...

    ...even so far as to help with money, weapons and the "iron dome" which is currently protecting israel from said hamas rockets.

    Again, it's terrible that innocent people are being killed - again - because the two sides can't come together to stop either bombings or illegal settlements AND because israel always brings a bazooka to a knife fight.

    But it doesn't take long for things like this to spiral out of control, and brute force is not the same thing as strength.  If Bibi's not careful, his ego could be his downfall.

     

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    I dont dissagree with most of what you said. Netenyahu may very well be charting his own demise, but he cannot let rockets fly into his country unchallenged. Of course the U.S. is going to support and defend Israel. The real test will be how Obama handles the new Government in Egypt, if this turns into a regional conflict. It was afterall, the Arab spring which he so vehemently supported that help put the Muslin Brotherhood in power.

     

     

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    There is no military solution to the Gaza situation that the rest of the world will possibly acquiesce to.

    Netanyahu has really stepped in it this time.

    Is it just a coincidence that they launch an offensive against Gaza AGAIN after Obama is elected?  Or just bad timing...?

     

     

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    I dunno.  I think the rockets that were fired into Israel from Gaza FIRST might have more to do with it than Obama being re-elected.  Call me crazy, but Israel was attacked.

     
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    Not looking good for the region!

    Egypt and Turkey are calling Israel a Terrorist state now!

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    There is no military solution to the Gaza situation that the rest of the world will possibly acquiesce to.

    Netanyahu has really stepped in it this time.

    Is it just a coincidence that they launch an offensive against Gaza AGAIN after Obama is elected?  Or just bad timing...?

     

     

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    um...Gaza launched a strike against Israel first.  Just thought you would like to know.  Are you anti-semetic?

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    There is no military solution to the Gaza situation that the rest of the world will possibly acquiesce to.

    Netanyahu has really stepped in it this time.

    Is it just a coincidence that they launch an offensive against Gaza AGAIN after Obama is elected?  Or just bad timing...?

     

     

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    um...Gaza launched a strike against Israel first.  Just thought you would like to know.  Are you anti-semetic?

     

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