83% of the US Government is still Running

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    83% of the US Government is still Running


    "Based on estimates drawn from CBO and OMB data, 83 percent of government operations will continue. This figure assumes that the government pays amounts due on appropriations obligated before the shutdown ($512 billion), spends $225 billion on exempted military and civilian personnel, pays entitlement benefits for those found eligible before the shutdown (about $2 trillion), and pays interest costs when due ($237 billion). This is about 83 percent of projected 2014 spending of $3.6 trillion."

    So the government shutdown, at least as measured by money spent, is really a 17 percent government shutdown. Perhaps that is why the effects of the shutdown, beyond some of the most visible problems, like at the monuments and memorials on the Washington Mall, don't seem to have the expected intensity.


    http://washingtonexaminer.com/wheres-sense-of-crisis-in-a-17-percent-government-shutdown/article/2536862

    If part of the 83 percent weren't spending all their time trying to lock down the 17% it's quite possible that you wouldn't notice any "shutdown" at all.

     

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    I dare one of you to call the White House and ask if the Government is still running...

    "Why yes, yes it is, why are you asking Sonny?"

    "Well, YOU BETTER CATCH IT!!!"


    haw haw haw

     

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    83% of the government is still running...

    AND WE ARE STILL BORROWING 40% of the money to fund that 83%!!!!

    This is what happens when you let the children decide what's for dinner.

     
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    This is what happens when you let the children decide what's for dinner.

    Chicken fingers and mac and cheese!

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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    This is what happens when you let the children decide what's for dinner.

     

    Chicken fingers and mac and cheese!

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    SB,

    Followed by obesity, high cholesteral, early heart disease...and just plain Yuck!!!

    That is why you have to educate your children when they are young about nutrition AND politics.

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    I dare one of you to call the White House and ask if the Government is still running...

    "Why yes, yes it is, why are you asking Sonny?"

    "Well, YOU BETTER CATCH IT!!!"


    haw haw haw

     

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    Think for yourself, question authority.

     

    Haha..this reminds me of a joke from mu childhood..something about Prince Edward in a can, but I can't quite remember how it went.

     




     

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    Yes..83 percent of government is still running, but not all these employees are getting paid. I have a friend who works for the local Social Security office. She is expected to report to work every day but she is not going to be paid until the shutdown is over....how long will that go on? She still has to pay childcare etc.

    I do some contract work on the side through a program that receives federal funding. I don't figure that income into my budget since the turnaround time for payment is so slow. I am still doing the contract work even though who knows how long payment will be delayed...but I am not willing to leave the two clients, already very vulnerable, in the lurch. There are no doubt thousands of others like me across the country. How long do you think most people can afford to do this?

    There are many government employees who are working without pay right now. I don't agree with the shutdown..but am of the opinion that if you are going to shut government down..then shut it down. When everyone feels the pain, perhaps then something will change.

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    In response to miscricket's comment:

     

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    I dare one of you to call the White House and ask if the Government is still running...

    "Why yes, yes it is, why are you asking Sonny?"

    "Well, YOU BETTER CATCH IT!!!"


    haw haw haw

     

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    Think for yourself, question authority.

     

    Haha..this reminds me of a joke from mu childhood..something about Prince Edward in a can, but I can't quite remember how it went.

     




     

     



    cricket,

     

    Joke is, usually kids calling up a store:

    Do You have Prince Albert in a Can?

    Yes, yes we do.

    Then you should hurry and let him out.

     

    Not that I ever prank called.

     

    Off topic but has the bottom of your new posts...or anybody else's...changed today?

    All I have now is Font Family and 12px as well as Add your post.

    Everything else is gone...Edit Post, Spell Check, etc.

     

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    Tourists and homebuyers are hit quickly by the shutdown.

    Today's boston.com has a comprehensive article about which sections of our economy are most and least hit right now by the government shutdown.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A government shutdown is having far-reaching consequences for some, but minimal impact on others.

    Mail is being delivered. Social Security and Medicare benefits continue to flow.

    But vacationers are being turned away from national parks and Smithsonian museums, and that’s having a ripple effect on those businesses and communities that rely on tourism. Borrowers applying for a mortgage can expect delays, particularly many low-to-moderate income borrowers and first-time homebuyers.

    A look at how services have been affected, and sometimes not, by Congress failing to reach an agreement averting a partial government shutdown.

    AIR TRAVEL

    Federal air traffic controllers remain on the job and airport screeners continue to funnel passengers through security checkpoints. But safety inspections of planes, pilots and aircraft repair stations by government workers have ceased because federal inspectors have been furloughed.

    INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL

    The State Department would continue processing foreign applications for visas and U.S. applications for passports, since fees are collected to finance those services. Embassies and consulates overseas are expected to remain open and provide services for U.S. citizens abroad. A small, but undisclosed, number of employees have been furloughed from several programs, including the State Department’s Office of Inspector General and the International Boundary and Water Commission.

    BENEFIT PAYMENTS

    Social Security and Medicare benefits continue to be paid out, but there could be delays in processing new disability applications. Unemployment benefits are also still going out.

    FEDERAL COURTS

    Federal courts continue to operate normally and will do so until mid-October. If the shutdown continues, the judiciary would have to begin furloughs of employees whose work is not considered essential. But cases would continue to be heard. The Supreme Court also says its business will go on despite the ongoing shutdown, and the high court will hear arguments Monday and will continue do so through at least the end of next week.

    The Supreme Court announced on its website that its building will be open to the public during its usual hours.

    MAIL

    Deliveries continue as usual because the U.S. Postal Service receives no tax dollars for day-to-day operations. It relies on income from stamps and other postal fees to keep running.

    RECREATION

    All national parks are closed. Grand National Canyon National Park was shut down for only the second time since it was created in 1919. The Grand Canyon averages 18,000 tourists per day in October, which has left hotels, concessionaires and tour operators losing money by the hour.

    In Washington, monuments along the National Mall have been closed, as have the Smithsonian museums, including the National Zoo. Among the visitor centers that have closed: the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island in New York, Independence Hall in Philadelphia and Alcatraz Island near San Francisco.

    HEALTH

    New patients are not being accepted into clinical research at the National Institutes of Health, but current patients continue to receive care. Medical research at the NIH has been disrupted as some studies have been delayed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been severely limited in spotting or investigating disease outbreaks such as the flu or that mysterious MERS virus from the Middle East.

    FOOD SAFETY

    The Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say they could handle recalls and high-risk foodborne outbreaks, but they are less likely to discover them because most of the people who investigate outbreaks have been furloughed.

    Routine food safety inspections conducted by FDA are suspended, so most food manufacturers won’t have to worry about periodic visits from government inspectors to make sure their facilities are clean. U.S. food inspections abroad have also been halted.

    USDA’s federal meat inspections are proceeding as usual, however. USDA inspectors are on the lines every day in meatpacking plants and are required to be there by law for the plants to stay open.

    EDUCATION

    The Education Department has said that a shutdown beyond a week would ‘‘severely’’ curtail the cash flow to school districts, colleges and universities and vocational rehabilitation agencies that depend on department funds. For example, colleges rely on department funds to pay ongoing expenses for staff in programs for disadvantaged students. The department would not make additional details available on Friday about the number of districts, colleges and universities and vocational rehabilitation agencies that could more immediately feel the impact of a shutdown.

    FOOD ASSISTANCE

    The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children, known as WIC, has enough money to operate through the end of October, according to USDA. The department distributed almost $400 million in federal unexpended and contingency dollars this week to states to cover any shortfalls. The program provides supplemental food, health care referrals and nutrition education for pregnant women, mothers and their children.

    School lunches and breakfasts should have enough funding to be served, USDA says, and food stamps will continue to be distributed through October. But both programs could face shortfalls if the shutdown continues into November.

    TAXES

    Americans would still have to pay their taxes and file federal tax returns, but the Internal Revenue Service suspended all audits. The IRS also will not be processing any tax refunds during the shutdown. Got questions? Sorry, IRS call centers will not be staffed, though automated lines are still running.

    LOANS

    Borrowers applying for a mortgage can expect delays, especially if the shutdown is prolonged. That’s because many lenders need government confirmation of applicants’ income tax returns and Social Security data. Mortgage industry officials say they expect bottlenecks on closing loans if the shutdown stretches on for more than a few days.

    The delays will particularly hit low- to moderate-income borrowers and first-time homebuyers who are seeking government-insured mortgages for single-family homes from the Federal Housing Administration.

    Multifamily FHA mortgage approvals are suspended. Action on government-backed loans to small businesses is also suspended.

    It’s business as usual for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans, which are not impacted by the shutdown.

    SCIENCE

    NASA continues to keep workers at Mission Control in Houston and elsewhere to support the International Space station, where two Americans and four others are deployed. It also exempted a robotic probe to Mars from the shutdown because time is tight to be ready for a once-every-two-year launch opportunity.

    The National Weather Service is forecasting weather and issuing warnings while the National Hurricane Center continues to track storms. The scientific work of the U.S. Geological Survey has been halted.

    HOMELAND SECURITY

    The majority of the Department of Homeland Security’s employees have stayed on the job, including uniformed agents and officers at the country’s borders and ports of entry, members of the Coast Guard, Transportation Security Administration officers, Secret Service personnel and other law enforcement agents and officers. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services employees continue to process green card applications. However, the four Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers, run by DHS, have shuttered training operations for federal agents. The closure of those services could delay when newer employees with the Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection and Capitol Police can go on the job.

    LAW ENFORCEMENT

    The FBI estimates that in all, about 80 percent of its employees are working around the country. The FBI has about 34,000 employees. All FBI field offices around the country and the legal attache offices around the world are staffed and are prepared to meet any immediate threats and are protecting life and property. However, activities are suspended for other, longer-term types of investigations of crimes that don’t involve an immediate threat. Training and other support functions have been slashed.

    MILITARY

    The military’s 1.4 million active duty personnel remain on duty. About half of the Defense Department’s civilian employees were furloughed, but Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered nearly all 350,000 back on the job. National Guard and Reserve training has been cancelled for many units around the country.

    PRISONS

    All 116 federal prisons remain open and criminal litigation proceeds.

    VETERANS SERVICES

    Most services offered through the Department of Veterans Affairs continue because lawmakers approved money one year in advance for the VA’s health programs. Veterans are still visiting hospitals for inpatient care and getting mental health counseling at vet centers at outpatient clinics. Operators are also staffing the crisis hotline, but regional offices are not taking calls.

    The VA continues to process payments providing veterans compensation for disabilities and pensions. However, claims processors are no longer being required to work 20 hours of overtime per month, which VA officials say is stalling progress in reducing the disability claims backlog, which stood at 418,500 at the end of September.

    If the shutdown continues into late October, the VA warns that compensation and pension payments to veterans will be halted.

    WORK SAFETY

    Federal occupational safety and health inspectors have stopped workplace inspections except in cases of imminent danger.

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    I was so happy to see this in the above. I know everyone who flies will be equally as happy.

    AIR TRAVEL

    Federal air traffic controllers remain on the job and airport screeners continue to funnel passengers through security checkpoints. But safety inspections of planes, pilots and aircraft repair stations by government workers have ceased because federal inspectors have been furloughed.

     

    Pulled this out as one example of the "17% shutdown". Like that one?

    If you do, then you also must like the one on FOOD SAFETY as well.

    No, the shutdown is barely being noticed. Not until you or a loved one goes down in a fiery plane crash in a plane that was due for inspection.

    Or maybe you or a loved one ends up hospitalized after eaten food that should have been inspected by the FDA by was not because of the barely noticeable government shutdown.

    Government "slim" enough for everybody yet? 

     

     

                                                               

     
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    Re: 83% of the US Government is still Running

    Wait for the debt ceiling, SB.

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    Government shutdown is on the cons no matter how you try to lighten it up with your slim twist, or bury it.

    Yikes. deal with the loss, and your impending failure at the pols. Its sick and disgusting. Patriots my a..

     
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