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Seriously, what is the point is this artificial, "ready-for-my-closeup-Mr. DeMille", kabuki theater version of how to keep a government running half-smoothly...?
What is the purpose of voting to pay for laws that the congress has already voted to pay for...?
And even when they do finally get their thumbs out to vote, the debate itself spooks those precious markets and damages the nation's credit rating. The last clusterf**k in 2011 cost the government an extra $19 billion in interest alone.
This is the "uncertainty" that businesses hate and that repubs say is so bad, and yet they line up to dish it out every time. And the dems are no better on this score, either.
However, there's nothing remotely "fiscally conservative" about stamping your feet, holding your breath, and refusing to pay your bills on time....
I will agree with you IF:
1) The government is only allowed to spend in one year the expected revenue to be collected for that year, through thick or thin.
2) ALL borrowing would be short term borrowing, with all accounts settled and zeroed out on the last day of the fiscal year.
3) That the debt be the top priority, as in paid out, of each budget, with at least an equal amount of principle and interest each month, until gone.
If you hire someone to perform a service ... say defending the country by accepting their services in the armed forces... or you have a road or bridge fixed or buy a tank... you really do not have the right to then decide NOT to pay for it. The vote you are talking about is only to say that we agree to pay for what we ALREADY bought / agreed to. Someone has already been wounded defending our country.. a bridge or road already fixed, a tank built and delivered, etc.
No. If you tell someone to do the work you have to pay for it. No one would let you or I decide whether we would pay the guy who already fixed our leaky roof. We would be completely obligated to pay.
Your criteria would need to be applied to the process BEFORE we had someone fix our roof!!!! This vote comes well after the fact.
The Democrat Party is the Party of Government . It exists to spend and grow the size and power of the State, and make more government dependents. So it doesnt really matter if we have a debt ceiling, since the Democrats have no ceiling , they will continue until we are ruined.
I think where you and I differ is that I believe that BOTH parties are not working FOR the people of this country. I beleive that they are both bought and paid for. When you follow the money and the names you find that elected officials and their staffers find jobs in the huge lobby industry. The revolving door leads them into the private sector and then back into office in the public sector.
Government has been bought. VOters need to realize that we need to find common ground in order to restore American democracy. I am no fan of either party. I see that both parties do not help us.