Affirmative Action on Trial

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    Re: Affirmative Action on Trial

    A couple points:

    - The school has claimed that this young lady didn't have the grades to attend the school, so race was never a factor.

    -  I wonder how many minorities were denied entry to UT over the past century due to their race?

     
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    A couple points:

    - The school has claimed that this young lady didn't have the grades to attend the school, so race was never a factor.

    -  I wonder how many minorities were denied entry to UT over the past century due to their race?

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    So you are in favor of "reparations" not affirmative action, is that it?

     

     

     
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    A couple points:

    - The school has claimed that this young lady didn't have the grades to attend the school, so race was never a factor.

    -  I wonder how many minorities were denied entry to UT over the past century due to their race?

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    So you are in favor of "reparations" not affirmative action, is that it?

     

     

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    Does it HAVE TO BE one or the other ?

    How about NEITHER?

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    I vote neither, but that's the left retort usually, like it's my (and your) fault that there was discrimination fifty years ago.   

    Or that anyone deserves anything because of the color of their skin, black or white.

    Wrong!

    Race card bubbling up into the MSM four weeks before the election?  Nah, just a "co-inkie-dink"!

     
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    A couple points:

    - The school has claimed that this young lady didn't have the grades to attend the school, so race was never a factor.

    -  I wonder how many minorities were denied entry to UT over the past century due to their race?

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    The case is about her having better grades and more approved extra cirricular activites than some of her former school mates who were allowed in UT. So, that must have been established as true for the case to have made it to the SCOTUS.

    How many minorities of the last decade and how many qualified peoplerejected over the last decade is not the issue.

    The issue is whether minorities have access to a school system leading up to college that gives them a fair chance to compete with non minorities at the college level.

    If the answer is yes then affirmative action is no longer needed and race should not be considered at all for college acceptance!

     

     

     
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    The case is about her having better grades and more approved extra cirricular activites than some of her former school mates who were allowed in UT. So, that must have been established as true for the case to have made it to the SCOTUS. How many minorities of the last decade and how many qualified peoplerejected over the last decade is not the issue. The issue is whether minorities have access to a school system leading up to college that gives them a fair chance to compete with non minorities at the college level. If the answer is yes then affirmative action is no longer needed and race should not be considered at all for college acceptance! 

    And if the answer is 'no'?

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    If the answer is proven to be "no" that minorities do not have access to acceptable education standards then affirmative action may still be needed.

     

     
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    Race card bubbling up into the MSM four weeks before the election?  Nah, just a "co-inkie-dink"!

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    Race card bubbling up in the conservative Supreme Court four weeks before the election?

     
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    In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

    So you are in favor of "reparations" not affirmative action, is that it? 




    What the FVCK are you babbling about?

     

    How is asking a question about the history of segregation at UT in any way an endorsement of reparations?

     

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    Guess you don't get my point, but that's OK, you rarely do.

     
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    affirmative action should be called what it is....racism.

     

     
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    In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

    So you are in favor of "reparations" not affirmative action, is that it? 




    What the FVCK are you babbling about?

     

    How is asking a question about the history of segregation at UT in any way an endorsement of reparations?

     

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    Guess you don't get my point, but that's OK, you rarely do.

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    Your point, or the one you were fed?  Because this case was selected by the Chief Justice.  Could a minority on the court have done so?  No.  Following the Supreme Court's initiative, the Murdoch&Ailes and EIB network sales forces swung into action, trying to grab the initiative, and selling the idea that it came from some liberal direction.  This is why this is in the mainstream media, and yours, and not for the reasons you have been fed.

    The closer the election gets, the more stuff gets thrown against the wall to see if it sticks, including here, where we're seeing multiple threads started on some issues, perhaps on the theory that the more it's pushed out on the national narrative, the better chance it becomes "fact".

     
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    Re: Affirmative Action on Trial

    In my opinion, diversity in background and experience is *part* of merit; it's not distinct from it. We may not measure it with the usual standardized tests, but it's a critical component of academic excellence--truly understanding the world, its people, and cultures. 

    One of the purposes of public education is to broaden one's horizons, and UT is on completely justified grounds for enhancing its academic experience by ensuring diversity in its classrooms.

    It too bad, given her attitude, it seems Ms. Fischer could have benefitted from a UT education if she only had the grades to get in.

     
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    when an individual makes a decision based solely on race...we call it racism, due to ignorance.

    when an organization or an entity has a policy of racism (affirmative action) it is not just an individual but it's policy across the entire organization and put forth with aforthought and premeditation.

    i think the latter is worse....because ignorance can't be fixed...

     

     
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    The equity and effectivemess of AA has never been demonstrated after all these decades.

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    1) we have the finest military in the world

    2) Our military has practiced Affirmative Action for decades

     
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    A couple points:

    - The school has claimed that this young lady didn't have the grades to attend the school, so race was never a factor.

    -  I wonder how many minorities were denied entry to UT over the past century due to their race?

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    The case is about her having better grades and more approved extra cirricular activites than some of her former school mates who were allowed in UT. So, that must have been established as true for the case to have made it to the SCOTUS.

    How many minorities of the last decade and how many qualified peoplerejected over the last decade is not the issue.

    The issue is whether minorities have access to a school system leading up to college that gives them a fair chance to compete with non minorities at the college level.

    If the answer is yes then affirmative action is no longer needed and race should not be considered at all for college acceptance!

     

     

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    That's not what the case is about.

     
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    In response to NO MO O's comment:
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    In my opinion, diversity in background and experience is *part* of merit; it's not distinct from it. We may not measure it with the usual standardized tests, but it's a critical component of academic excellence--truly understanding the world, its people, and cultures. 

    One of the purposes of public education is to broaden one's horizons, and UT is on completely justified grounds for enhancing its academic experience by ensuring diversity in its classrooms.

    It too bad, given her attitude, it seems Ms. Fischer could have benefitted from a UT education if she only had the grades to get in. Yet less qualified people DID get accepted. Equity ??

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    Again...she didn't have the grades. 

    Here's a fact that i'm sure you aren't aware of...due to your aversion to facts:  By Texas law, if you are in the top 10% of your high school class, you are granted automatic admission into the state university of your choice (UT included).   This accounts for over 80% of the UT student body. 

    Perhaps Ms. Fisher should have spent more time studying instead of simply anticipating entrance based on Alumni parents.

     

     
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    Re: Affirmative Action on Trial

    The military has lower standards for minorities?? If it's true I'd say it's insulting to minorities.

    Minorities don't need special lower standards, they are just as intelligent and able as other races. To apply, or even suggest a practice that says some people just aren't as good as others because of their race is unconscionable.

     
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