Airport Security in Israel, how they can do it, and we can't?

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    Airport Security in Israel, how they can do it, and we can't?

    Interesting article on the Israelie approach to airport security... and it begs the question, why can't we do it this way? And no, my Republican friends, it has nothing to do with Liberals, or Obama...

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744426--what-israel-can-teach-us-about-security
     
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    " IN ISRAEL,  THEY JUST DO IT......  THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT IT AND  HOPE..."

    Nor are the Israelis encumbered by that pesky "Constitution" document!
     
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    One of the problems we have in the US is an over reliance on technology to detect a bomb, a computer to tell us a guy is on a no fly list, and inadequate stop gap measures like shoe inspection and not allowing flyers to take nail trimmers on flights.  What I like about the Isreali model is the reliance on humans to detect human reactions.  We all roll our eyes when we hear about an 80 year old woman getting pulled out of line for inspection and it is preceisely because we are too systems and process based in our approach to airport security. 

    That said comparing how Israel does security in one airport is a far cry from being able to implement some of those elements in the numerous US airports.  It could be done, but not in any quick timetable. 
     
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    I wouldn't say the Israelis "just do it" it's not a Nike ad...  They don't just "do it and hope" they understand there will be missed attacks, and they accept, here, Republicans and Dems alike are unwilling to accept that risk.. So instead, we take insane measures that don't even seem to work.

    I think its a matter that the Israelies are willing to move on after a terrorist attack, we think if 1 person gets through, then the entire system is a failure... As the article mentions, they have a trust in their system, but they also have a willingness to go back to their lives and keep living, whereas in this country, a single attack, no matter how small paralyzes the nation as a whole... Look at the fear the DC snipers caused or the shoe-bomber, in Israel, they would've barely made even made a blip on the radar compared to what they deal with on a daily basis.. Yet here it made entire Tri-State area fearful to leave their homes.

    Personally, I blame a lot of the over reaction on the national media, they have made so many of us fearful risks in general and completely ignorant of the actual factors and reality of those risk... The few shark attacks there were all over the news a few years ago, people suddenly talking about hunting down all the sharks, etc. and that number of attacks pretty much stayed normal, but everyone was so afraid to go back in the water... and much like the current state of economy which is many ways is a self-fullfilling due to people's severe curbing of spending, which caused a bad recession to get even worse... Much of which is due to the drumbeat of the media.
     
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    The answer is easy - the govt and TSA are incompetent.
     
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    "Look at the fear the DC snipers caused or the shoe-bomber, in Israel, they would've barely made even made a blip on the radar compared to what they deal with on a daily basis.. Yet here it made entire Tri-State area fearful to leave their homes."

    Do you think it's odd that people would be a bit fearful of getting shot? For real? Not everyone can be as fearless as yourself.
     
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    The difference is Israel knows the threat first hand and have had many of their children murdered by attacks. They are willing to give up convienence and political correctness if it means more security...unfortunately we are not there yet.
     
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    I think it is appauling that the U.S and Canada doesn't take Israel's lead in providing security. I saw a special about this very issue a year or two ago and it told about how Israeli's know how to handle terrorist threats and protect their people. They simply "don't play around" when it comes to doing whatever they can to protect themselves. Also, the citizens of Israel KNOW HOW TO PREPARE when they travel. They understand about the "inconvenieces" that they have to face just to get on a plane.

    In contrast, Americans and Canadians are more worried about being "inconvienced" than being safe. How the Israeli's Security Department will constantly "look you in the eye" would not be tolerated here because some group like the ACLU would complain somehow that somebody's civil rights are being violated. Either that or someone or some group would complain about "PROFILING". Plus, all this uproar in the United States and in Canada about full body scans, pat downs and other security checks shouldn't be an uproar at all. What should be an uproar is how lax and underprepared we are in American and Canada and how poor our security really is.

     
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    @hawkeye01, that is the fear I am exactly talking about, you go and hide under your bed when someone on the news says 'Boo', that has become the typical reaction in this country, when the reality is, you're not in any great danger because the odds are simply against it. In Israel, when a bus is bombed, they practically take the next one... Here, we would cower in fear and no longer take buses. They don't live their lives in constant fear, yet they are at far greater risk than we are...

    Here you have Republican fear mongering, and Democrats who lack an assertive response that will give people trust in their actions.
     
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    @hawkeye01, that is the fear I am exactly talking about, you go and hide under your bed when someone on the news says 'Boo', that has become the typical reaction in this country, when the reality is, you're not in any great danger because the odds are simply against it. In Israel, when a bus is bombed, they practically take the next one... Here, we would cower in fear and no longer take buses. They don't live their lives in constant fear, yet they are at far greater risk than we are...

    Here you have Republican fear mongering, and Democrats who lack an assertive response that will give people trust in their actions.
    They have also built a wall!!
     
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    I love how when a Republican speaks of the truth or brings up something that the other side is doing wrong.....it is always called "FEAR MONGERING"

    Maybe, the left is like the movie "A FEW GOOD MEN"

    THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!
     
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