All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

    ...now want to secede because they were owned themselves in an election by a black man (and 60 million+ voters).

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

    ...now want to secede because they were owned themselves in an election by a black man (and 60 million+ voters).

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    You have a right to your racist opinion!

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    I don't view Matty's opinion as racist.

    He's just making a point about how ironic it is.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

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    Guess you missed where there are ALL 50 STATES participating................ALL 50

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    Pretend all you want, but it's fairly obvious where most of the secessionist hullabaloo is coming from...and why.

    Even Erickson at RedState swatted this crapola down like the mosquito it is.

     

     

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    Why don't those 675,000 people just renounce their citizenships ? They have that right !

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

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    North and South Dakota seceded to own blacks?

    Texas seceded to own black?

     

    Maybe a history lesson is in order!

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    The Blue left looks divided! lol!

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    If the America haters signing these petitions get there way the Blue will be divided, into sky Blue, Navy Blue, and Royal Blue. Of course they never actually would be granted secession, so really they're just signing a petition that says "Sign here if you quit on your country when you don't get your way."

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    They are respectfully requesting better representation as the constitution says they have a right to. If, you hate em for that then it just shows your ignorance and doesnt reflect on their patriotism!

    The people are the real government!

    Declaration of Independence's assertion that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."

     

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    Right, the People are the real Government and they have decidedly re-elected Barack Obama. 

    For 250 years a large chunk of the electorate has been on the losing end of elections, why is this one so much different that the extremists who lost feel the need to pull this political stunt of secession?

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    "decideldy"?  Are you kidding? Did I miss something?  62 million votes for Obama, 60 million votes for Romney?  LESS votes for OLbama than he got in 2008?  LESS electoral votes than 2008? LESS states won than 2008?  10 million LESS votes for Obama than in 2008?

    There has never been a country more divided.  After billions of dollars spent, we have the exact same thing......Dem president, Dem Senate, Rep House.

     

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    Stop with the "there has never been a country more divided" rhetoric.  It isn't true.    

    Some facts.  This Obama win was by a greater margin than 2000 (when W lost the Popular) and 2004.  In 2004 I'm sure you remember W. giving a speech shortly after winning the election about how the election "gave him political capital" and how he "intended to spend it."  Funny how the same logic doesn't apply for Obama now, isn't it?

    Elections were decided by smaller margins, based on % of popular vote in 1976, 1968 and 1960.  As well as many times in the 1800's.  Garfield had less than 2,000 more votes in 1880.  Extrapolate that out to our current population and that would equal Obama winning in 2012 by about 30,000 votes. 

    The last number I saw had this years final difference around 3.2 million for Obama not 2 million.  And 7 million less than 2008, not 10 million.  It was highly decisive for Obama in the swing states, with Romney only taking North Carolina, which in turn led to a decisive Electoral victory for Obama.

    These are facts.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

    ...now want to secede because they were owned themselves in an election by a black man (and 60 million+ voters).

     

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    North and South Dakota seceded to own blacks?

    Texas seceded to own black?

     

    Maybe a history lesson is in order!

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    Try reading comprehension. 

    My comment was about the confederacy states, which are indeed well-stocked with such nutbags who would sign such a silly thing,...but not exclusive to them.

    [BTW, the Dakotas did not become states until after the Civil War, so your "correction" makes no sense at all.  Tool.]

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    "decideldy"?  Are you kidding? Did I miss something?  62 million votes for Obama, 60 million votes for Romney?  LESS votes for OLbama than he got in 2008?  LESS electoral votes than 2008? LESS states won than 2008?  10 million LESS votes for Obama than in 2008?

    There has never been a country more divided.  After billions of dollars spent, we have the exact same thing......Dem president, Dem Senate, Rep House.

     

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    Stop with the "there has never been a country more divided" rhetoric.  It isn't true.    

    Some facts.  This Obama win was by a greater margin than 2000 (when W lost the Popular) and 2004.  In 2004 I'm sure you remember W. giving a speech shortly after winning the election about how the election "gave him political capital" and how he "intended to spend it."  Funny how the same logic doesn't apply for Obama now, isn't it?

    Elections were decided by smaller margins, based on % of popular vote in 1976, 1968 and 1960.  As well as many times in the 1800's.  Garfield had less than 2,000 more votes in 1880.  Extrapolate that out to our current population and that would equal Obama winning in 2012 by about 30,000 votes. 

    The last number I saw had this years final difference around 3.2 million for Obama not 2 million.  And 7 million less than 2008, not 10 million.  It was highly decisive for Obama in the swing states, with Romney only taking North Carolina, which in turn led to a decisive Electoral victory for Obama.

    These are facts.

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    And yet none of your facts changes his facts.

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    He had no facts.  Only rhetoric and mis-information.  Which is the status quo from the right.

    The country isn't as divided as it has been in the past (FACT) or as divided as the extremists on the right want all of us to think it is (Opinion).

    Romney/Ryan framed this election as a choice between "2 different visions for America" (Fact).  Their vision lost, so now the right is saying, 'Yeah but we didn't lose by enough to grant the People what they voted for'.

    I'm sure if Romney had won by 3 million votes his acceptence speech would have included "Well, I didn't win by that much so I'm not going to try and do the things I said I would."

    Sore losers.  Plain and Simple.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Ironically or not, the same states which seceded over their demand to own blacks as property...

    ...now want to secede because they were owned themselves in an election by a black man (and 60 million+ voters).

     

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    Guess you missed where there are ALL 50 STATES participating................ALL 50

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    Pretend all you want, but it's fairly obvious where most of the secessionist hullabaloo is coming from...and why.

    Even Erickson at RedState swatted this crapola down like the mosquito it is.

     

     

     

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    Pretend?  50 states.  It`s very clear.  What would you think you would get when you have an election that went down 50-48?  A country divided. As many folks that are happy, there`s just as many pi$$ed.

     

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    No, it's not clear.  The divide is much more about urban vs. rural (and class, et al.) than it is about red states or blue states, so your "50 states" comment is misleading, at best and ignorant, at worst.

    Where are most of the signatures from?  Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, et al.  Big, rural states which ALSO happen to be former confederate states with sordid racial histories.

    You are "pretending" the nation wants secession, when that couldn't be further from the truth.

     

     
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    The Blue left looks divided! lol!

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    If the America haters signing these petitions get there way the Blue will be divided, into sky Blue, Navy Blue, and Royal Blue. Of course they never actually would be granted secession, so really they're just signing a petition that says "Sign here if you quit on your country when you don't get your way."

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    They are respectfully requesting better representation as the constitution says they have a right to. If, you hate em for that then it just shows your ignorance and doesnt reflect on their patriotism!

    The people are the real government!

    Declaration of Independence's assertion that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."

     

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    Right, the People are the real Government and they have decidedly re-elected Barack Obama. 

    For 250 years a large chunk of the electorate has been on the losing end of elections, why is this one so much different that the extremists who lost feel the need to pull this political stunt of secession?

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    "decideldy"?  Are you kidding? Did I miss something?  62 million votes for Obama, 60 million votes for Romney?  LESS votes for OLbama than he got in 2008?  LESS electoral votes than 2008? LESS states won than 2008?  10 million LESS votes for Obama than in 2008?

    There has never been a country more divided.  After billions of dollars spent, we have the exact same thing......Dem president, Dem Senate, Rep House.

     

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    Stop with the "there has never been a country more divided" rhetoric.  It isn't true.    

    Some facts.  This Obama win was by a greater margin than 2000 (when W lost the Popular) and 2004.  In 2004 I'm sure you remember W. giving a speech shortly after winning the election about how the election "gave him political capital" and how he "intended to spend it."  Funny how the same logic doesn't apply for Obama now, isn't it?

    Elections were decided by smaller margins, based on % of popular vote in 1976, 1968 and 1960.  As well as many times in the 1800's.  Garfield had less than 2,000 more votes in 1880.  Extrapolate that out to our current population and that would equal Obama winning in 2012 by about 30,000 votes. 

    The last number I saw had this years final difference around 3.2 million for Obama not 2 million.  And 7 million less than 2008, not 10 million.  It was highly decisive for Obama in the swing states, with Romney only taking North Carolina, which in turn led to a decisive Electoral victory for Obama.

    These are facts.

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    You`re wrong!  No president has won a second term with LESS.........none!   He got LESS votes than 2008, it`s never happened.  He won LESS states than 2008, it`s never happened.  He got LESS electoral votes than 2008, it`s never happened.  And no president has ever won re-election with less votes (7 million, 10 million whichever number you like) since George Washington.

    We are as divided as we`ve ever been........maybe worse.  This administration spent more time creating divison than any in my lifetime.

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    False.  FDR won with less votes in 1936 and then even less in 1940. 

    If you really want to talk about the state map, yes Obama lost 2 states he won in 2008 but both of his victories are considered "Landslides" from an Electoral College stand point.  W. Bush never broke 286.  Expecting Obama to duplicate the 365 he got in 2008 was never realistic.

     
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    Why don't those 675,000 people just renounce their citizenships ? They have that right !

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    How many Tea Partiers signed the petition while waving their "Keep yore goverment hands off my Medicare" sign?

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    I'd like to see one of these states secede just so I can watch them build their fence.

     

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