All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    Russell was the ONE republican of the 18 filibustering Senators, led by Byrd and Al Gore Sr.

    In the end, 6 republicans voted against it, with 21 dems.

    Even LBJ credited Everett Dirksen and the GOP for getting it done, with honorable mention to Humphrey, and ONLY Humphrey.  He was some PO'd and his party




    The bottom line is the dems have a done a great job convincing minorities that they are more tolerant simply because they want to give more hand outs instead of hand ups and they point our the fring groups of racist around the GOP and portray them as the base!

    They ignore the groups within their party that are racist and worse.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Will the seceded red states reinstate slavery?

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    Cold hearted orb, that rules the night

    Removes the colors from our sight

    Red is gray, and yellow white

    But we decide which is right

    And which is an illusion.

    It was a republican who freed the slaves and republicanS who let women vote and passed Civil rights.

     



    Those Republicans are dead and gone.  Byrd is dead too.  The relevancy of your ideas are for historic purposes only.  Stop living in the past.  There are no Lincolns in the G.O.P. now.  No real civil rights leaders either.  But a good number are in opposition.  Probably a majority.  But keep living in the past.  The present is too ugly for you to bear apparently.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    Gotta have something to replace the tea party.  Simple as that.  Needs to be.

    Another very bumpable thread.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    No, actually - Strom Thurmond led the fillibuster in 57 (speaking for more than 24 hours straight), and died a Republican, switching parties in 1964.  Richard Russell led the filibuster in 64.  

    Byrd changed his heart and mind, and renounced his racist views before he died - Thurmond changed his party and never did renounce his earlier beliefs, despite having fathered a black daughter.

    You really don't buy that the Dems lost the deep south because the civil rights act?  The only states Goldwater won in 64 were his home state (AZ), plus MS, AL, GA, LA & SC.  None of which voted Repbulican in 1960.



     

    No no no. Don't you get it? It's so obvious. Byrd was a racist. Therefore, no Republicans were racist, no racist Democrats became Republicans, there was absolutely no voter shift, and the south is a huge collection of blue states.

     

    Because byrd was a racist.

     

    Or so Zingmaster tells us....  




    In your tiny world




    Seriously - what is your explanation for states that had not voted Republican in 90 years to suddenly become the reddest of the red after the civil rights act of 64?  

    The last Republican president these states voted for before Goldwater was Ulysses S Grant.

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    In your tiny world

    Yeah. My tiny world. As opposed to the single-person universe you reach back to every single time the issue of race comes up, in any context: Byrd.

     



    It was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Democrat, who founded the Ku Klux Klan.

    Woodrow Wilson segregated Federal Buildings and jobs after 50 years of integration under largely Republican administrations.

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted Jim Crow Laws.

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted "separate but equal".

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that supported the Ku Klux Klan.

    It was George Wallace and the Democrat Party in the South that said "Segregation Forever".

    It was Orval Faubus and the Democrat Party that wanted the Arkansas National Guard to enforce segregation, and Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican President, that sent the 101st Airborne to integrate the schools.

    It was Bull Connor, a member of the Democrat National Committee, who turned the hoses on the marchers in Birmingham, and it was the Republicans who made up the majority that passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, over the filibuster of such Democrat paragons as William Fulbright and Al Gore Sr. - and Grand Kleagle Byrd.


    And no, the Dixiecrats didn't join the Republican Party most of them remained Democrats.

    It was Democrats who called General Colin Powell a "house nigger".

    It was Democrats who called Condi Rice - who grew up with and knew the little girls in Birmingham who were blown up, by Democrats - an "Aunt Jemima" and ran cartoons of her with fat lips doing Hattie McDaniel riffs.

    It was Democrats, or at least Obama supporters, who called Stacy Dash a hundred different racist names for daring to leave the Democrat plantaion. (sic) It's the Democrats who hold annual dinners honoring Andrew Jackson, who owned slaves and who orchestrated the Removal, the Trail of Tears, the near genocide of several of the Indian Nations.

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    That at least one yahoo in each state signed the petition means nothing to the overall absurd effort at secession... which is indeed focused largely on the ex-confederate states. 



    It will reach a million signatures overall by tomorrow most likely and to say "mostly conferate stataes" just shows your own bigotted attitude towards the south.

    That some of the states were once (everyone who was there then is dead now) part of the confederacy idicates something racial is just assinine and race baiting!



    I said quite clearly "ex-" and "former" confederate states.  Which they most certainly are.

    Given that the Civil War was our last true brush with state secession makes the label salient, if somewhat loaded.

    Make no mistake.  That history is still a source of pride for money anti-govt types.

     

 
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Will the seceded red states reinstate slavery?

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    Cold hearted orb, that rules the night

    Removes the colors from our sight

    Red is gray, and yellow white

    But we decide which is right

    And which is an illusion.

    It was a republican who freed the slaves and republicanS who let women vote and passed Civil rights.

     



    By today's GOP standards, Lincoln was a flaming socialist liberal moonbat and the Civil Rights Act was a terrible mistake.

    To deny that is to deny what's right in front of your nose.

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Why couldn't we let Tex and La go?  They'd export gas to us and we'd export everything else to them.

    LOL - they're not even gone yet and Tvoter is already crying to let them come back.

    Imagine how much less we'd have to pay in taxes and in Insurance without those 2 states.  The entire Gulf Coast and much of the Atlantic Coast gone.  Great.  Where do I sign?

    I can't wait - my taxes are going to drop big time.  Plus, we get a buffer with mexico.  Oh, but in no time.  And we could build an electrified fence to keep out the illegals - because before long, theose stupid red necks would be trying to sneak across the border.

    Oh, and maybe we can invite Canada into the Union.  They might even agree to become part of the US since most of the Red Necks would be gone. 

    Will the seceded red states reinstate slavery?



    ...to bump this post and thread, because both deserve more attention.


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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Given that the Civil War was our last true brush with state secession makes the label salient, if somewhat loaded.

    Make no mistake.  That history is still a source of pride for money anti-govt types.




    Any guesses as to where Todd and Sarah Palin stand on this?

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    Make no mistake.  That history is still a source of pride for money anti-govt types. 




    Really?? So, people who like to keep the money they earned and are upset over the FACT that govt is the most wasteful entity but, yet people want to give them MORE money are now "proud of slavery"?

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Any guesses as to where Todd and Sarah Palin stand on this?




    And Dick Armey?

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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    In your tiny world

    Yeah. My tiny world. As opposed to the single-person universe you reach back to every single time the issue of race comes up, in any context: Byrd.

     



    It was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Democrat, who founded the Ku Klux Klan.

    Woodrow Wilson segregated Federal Buildings and jobs after 50 years of integration under largely Republican administrations.

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted Jim Crow Laws.

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted "separate but equal".

    It was the Democrat Party in the South that supported the Ku Klux Klan.

    It was George Wallace and the Democrat Party in the South that said "Segregation Forever".

    It was Orval Faubus and the Democrat Party that wanted the Arkansas National Guard to enforce segregation, and Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican President, that sent the 101st Airborne to integrate the schools.

    It was Bull Connor, a member of the Democrat National Committee, who turned the hoses on the marchers in Birmingham, and it was the Republicans who made up the majority that passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, over the filibuster of such Democrat paragons as William Fulbright and Al Gore Sr. - and Grand Kleagle Byrd.


    And no, the Dixiecrats didn't join the Republican Party most of them remained Democrats.

    It was Democrats who called General Colin Powell a "house nigger".

    It was Democrats who called Condi Rice - who grew up with and knew the little girls in Birmingham who were blown up, by Democrats - an "Aunt Jemima" and ran cartoons of her with fat lips doing Hattie McDaniel riffs.

    It was Democrats, or at least Obama supporters, who called Stacy Dash a hundred different racist names for daring to leave the Democrat plantaion. (sic) It's the Democrats who hold annual dinners honoring Andrew Jackson, who owned slaves and who orchestrated the Removal, the Trail of Tears, the near genocide of several of the Indian Nations.




     

    You notice before 1964, the Dems you reference are all law-makers.  After 1964, they're isolated incidents.  A Harry Belafonte does not trump a Strom Thurmond, or even a 2012 Jan Brewer.  

    Most lawmakers didn't switch parties - that's true, but those that did switched from the Dems to the GOP - none switched the other way around.

    Ulysses S. Grant - that's the last Republican president GA, SC, MS, AL & LA voted for before Barry Goldwater.  Ulyesses S f'ing Grant.  You don't have to be racist or condone racism to acknowledge they vote with you.  And if you can't do that, in the face of Ulysses S F'ing Grant ... how can anybody take you seriously about anything?

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    I was ignoring this thread but was but I just felt I had to share.

     

    From Politico Alec Baldwin had this to say about seccessionists and this is from a guy who threaten to move to Canada when Bush was re-elected; what a narcissitic pedantic tool, but I do like his capital one ads..

     

     

    Alec Baldwin thinks it's laughable that some Americans are arguing for secession in the wake of President Barack Obama's reelection.

    "It's so strange because I had many of those states on a list of states I would like to secede from the United States," the actor joked on The Late Show with David Letterman on Wednesday. And the people that are leading that movement, it's amazing, because we actually agree on something for the first time. That's secession." 

    "What would they call it?" he asked. "The United Flakes of America? The United States of Caucasia?" 

    Baldwin added that the movement is too small to make a difference anyway.

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    Will the seceded red states reinstate slavery?

    ----------------------------------------------

    Cold hearted orb, that rules the night

    Removes the colors from our sight

    Red is gray, and yellow white

    But we decide which is right

    And which is an illusion.

    It was a republican who freed the slaves and republicanS who let women vote and passed Civil rights.

     



    By today's GOP standards, Lincoln was a flaming socialist liberal moonbat and the Civil Rights Act was a terrible mistake.

    To deny that is to deny what's right in front of your nose.

     



    Well JFK wouldn't really fit in today's Dem philosophy that people aren't responsible for thier own success. 

    John F. Kennedy Quotes. My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

     

     

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

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    Will the seceded red states reinstate slavery?

    ----------------------------------------------

    Cold hearted orb, that rules the night

    Removes the colors from our sight

    Red is gray, and yellow white

    But we decide which is right

    And which is an illusion.

    It was a republican who freed the slaves and republicanS who let women vote and passed Civil rights.

     



    By today's GOP standards, Lincoln was a flaming socialist liberal moonbat and the Civil Rights Act was a terrible mistake.

    To deny that is to deny what's right in front of your nose.

     



    Well JFK wouldn't really fit in today's Dem philosophy that people aren't responsible for thier own success. 

    John F. Kennedy Quotes. My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

     

     

     




    Yes, and sore losers circulating secession petitions are clearly asking what they "can do for their country".

     

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

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    Alec Baldwin thinks it's laughable that some Americans are arguing for secession in the wake of President Barack Obama's reelection.

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    From the guy who said HE would secede if Bush won, and is still here and yapping.

    Fr1ggin great!




    Mitt Romney's money seceded a long time ago. 

     
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    Re: All 50 states to participate petition to secede! Over 675,000 signatures in first week.

    Bump -- it's been half an hour.

    And Dick Armey's in this somewhere, I tell ya.

     
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