America: The Only Rich Country Without Paid Vacation, Holidays

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    America: The Only Rich Country Without Paid Vacation, Holidays

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/27/america-is-the-only-rich-country-that-doesnt-guarantee-paid-vacation-or-holidays/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

     

    no vacation

     

    The United States is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation. European countries establish legal rights to at least 20 days of paid vacation per year, with legal requirements of 25 and even 30 or more days in some countries. Australia and New Zealand both require employers to grant at least 20 vacation days per year; Canada and Japan mandate at least 10 paid days off. The gap between paid time off in the United States and the rest of the world is even larger if we include legally mandated paid holidays, where the United States offers none, but most of the rest of the world’s rich countries offer at least six paid holidays per year.

    Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off. This table shows how it actually works out across the economy:

    vacation table

     

    So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich.

     

     

     
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    Re: America: The Only Rich Country Without Paid Vacation, Holidays

    should read: "...Legally Mandated Paid Vacation, Holidays..."

     

     

     
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    no vacation

     

    The United States is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation. European countries establish legal rights to at least 20 days of paid vacation per year, with legal requirements of 25 and even 30 or more days in some countries. Australia and New Zealand both require employers to grant at least 20 vacation days per year; Canada and Japan mandate at least 10 paid days off. The gap between paid time off in the United States and the rest of the world is even larger if we include legally mandated paid holidays, where the United States offers none, but most of the rest of the world’s rich countries offer at least six paid holidays per year.

    Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off. This table shows how it actually works out across the economy:

    vacation table

     

    So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich.

     



    So get richer!

    The USA needs more work hours so taxpayers can paysubsidies, bail outs, and aid to other countries, the UN and virtually every poor nation.

     

    These nations you are so keen on how much aid they give to other countries??

     
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    So get richer!

    And yet you don't have that statement in mind when you complain about taxes, obamacare, etc. 



    lol

    btw; you missed this part.

    The USA needs more work hours so taxpayers can paysubsidies, bail outs, and aid to other countries, the UN and virtually every poor nation.

     

    These nations you are so keen on how much aid they give to other countries??


     
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    So get richer!


    The ultra-conservative philosophy in a nutshell, I guess....

     

     

     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/27/america-is-the-only-rich-country-that-doesnt-guarantee-paid-vacation-or-holidays/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

     

    no vacation

     

    The United States is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation. European countries establish legal rights to at least 20 days of paid vacation per year, with legal requirements of 25 and even 30 or more days in some countries. Australia and New Zealand both require employers to grant at least 20 vacation days per year; Canada and Japan mandate at least 10 paid days off. The gap between paid time off in the United States and the rest of the world is even larger if we include legally mandated paid holidays, where the United States offers none, but most of the rest of the world’s rich countries offer at least six paid holidays per year.

    Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off. This table shows how it actually works out across the economy:

    vacation table

     

    So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich.

     

     



    Why is this any business of the government?

     
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    I'm just taking issue with your flippant scoff @ what Matty posted. "So get richer!" ...  



    It was obviously tongue in cheek since "getting richer" means working harder, smarter with few exceptions. If, your idea of "rich" is about money.

     
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    So get richer!


    The ultra-conservative philosophy in a nutshell, I guess.... 



    So Matty, How much do those countries you compare so favorably in this regard to the USA give in aid to other countries?

     

     
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    Why is this any business of the government?


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything....

     

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

     

     

     

     

     
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    Why is this any business of the government?


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything.... 

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

     



    Why not distort things and be extreme?

     
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    So get richer!


    The ultra-conservative philosophy in a nutshell, I guess.... 

     



    So Matty, How much do those countries you compare so favorably in this regard to the USA give in aid to other countries?

     

     



    I didn't compare anything.  The researchers in the link did.  So take it up with them.

    This has nothing to do with foreign aid.

     

     

     
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    Why is this any business of the government?


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything.... 

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

     



    Why not distort things and be extreme?

     



    Yes.  Why not?

     

     

     

     

     
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    I'm just taking issue with your flippant scoff @ what Matty posted. "So get richer!" ...  

     

    Says the guy who is often flippant....do as I say, not as I do

     
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    Why is this any business of the government?

     

     


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything....

     

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

     

     

     

     



    Talk about flippant

     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/27/america-is-the-only-rich-country-that-doesnt-guarantee-paid-vacation-or-holidays/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

     

    no vacation

     

    The United States is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation. European countries establish legal rights to at least 20 days of paid vacation per year, with legal requirements of 25 and even 30 or more days in some countries. Australia and New Zealand both require employers to grant at least 20 vacation days per year; Canada and Japan mandate at least 10 paid days off. The gap between paid time off in the United States and the rest of the world is even larger if we include legally mandated paid holidays, where the United States offers none, but most of the rest of the world’s rich countries offer at least six paid holidays per year.

    Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off. This table shows how it actually works out across the economy:

    vacation table

     

    So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich.

     

     



    Have you been denied taking a vacation? In 22 years I've never been denied a vacation....an I ain't even close to rich. Guess I've been lucky...for 22 years...

     
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    In response to Godvernment's comment:

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    Why is this any business of the government?


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything.... 

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Prior to the 1930's American men, women, and children were required to work 14 hour work days, 6 days a week. 

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    There are still countries today that have child labour. There are even American corporations that take advantage of this (eg. Nike).

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

    There was a time there were no benefits or workers rights. 

     



    Why not distort things and be extreme?

     

     




    If your argument leads to absurd conclusions, it's a bad argument. That's just how logic works.

    What is extreme about what he said? life is extreme. workers rights and employment regulations are less than 100 years old. they weren't handed out, they were fought for. life is extreme.

    Newt Gingrich even supports child labour in America.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UbKCm23yBs

     


    "Godvernment" quite succinctly summarizes your belief system: anything that is good in life, you didnt earn it yourself; individuals never determine their own destiny; all that is good came from the benificence of your God of Government. Unless your Nanny State protects you, you have no chance to succeed.

    "Newt Gingrich even supports child labour in America."

    Whereas you believe the Nanny State has spoken: kids 17 years old wouldn't benefit from having a job, being self reliant, learning some skills...rather, start them young on being dependent on the government. Too much risk of "exploitation". Without the government regulations,  5 yr olds would immediately work in coal mines 18 hours a day.

    The God of Government has spoken.

     

     
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    Re: America: The Only Rich Country Without Paid Vacation, Holidays

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/27/america-is-the-only-rich-country-that-doesnt-guarantee-paid-vacation-or-holidays/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

     

    no vacation

     

    The United States is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation. European countries establish legal rights to at least 20 days of paid vacation per year, with legal requirements of 25 and even 30 or more days in some countries. Australia and New Zealand both require employers to grant at least 20 vacation days per year; Canada and Japan mandate at least 10 paid days off. The gap between paid time off in the United States and the rest of the world is even larger if we include legally mandated paid holidays, where the United States offers none, but most of the rest of the world’s rich countries offer at least six paid holidays per year.

    Of course, in practice, richer workers are able to negotiate for both paid vacation and paid holidays. It’s poorer workers who can’t take any time off. This table shows how it actually works out across the economy:

    vacation table

     

    So among richer workers, almost all employers offer paid vacation and holidays, and quite a bit of it. Among poorer workers, less than half get paid vacation, and even when they do, their employers offer a lot less of it. This is one more way in which the poor often end up working much harder than the rich.

     

     




    US is also has  highest average salary ....  so more time off ? or more pay ?

     
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    I didn't compare anything.  The researchers in the link did.  So take it up with them.

    This has nothing to do with foreign aid. 

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    Your title did and it has everything to do with a countries financial responsibilities when you are comparing only aspect of a countries social compassion.

     
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    Why is this any business of the government?

     

     


    Finally, a good question.

    Why, indeed...?  It's not like the government employs people or anything....

     

    Why not make "full-time" = 80 hours/week instead of 40?

    Why not hire 10-yr olds on the books?

    Why not hire anyone regardless of citizenship status?

    Why offer any benefits to anyone, ever...?

     

     

     

     



    So, you are talking about people that the government hires?  Not the economy as a whole?

    Well, employment agreements are between the employee and the employer.  No place for such silly mandates as you propose, government mandated vacations.

     
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