America's successful governing party

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    America's successful governing party

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/conn-carroll-americas-governing-party/article/2520285

    According to a September 2012 Gallup poll, a full 65 percent of Americans trust their state government -- a 14-point jump in confidence from 2009.

    Why is Americans' confidence in state and local government surging while their frustration and fear of the federal government are growing? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Republicans govern at the state level.

    Republicans currently occupy the governor's mansions in 30 states, representing 58 percent of the U.S. population. They control both the governorship and legislature in 25 states, representing 52 percent of all Americans. Democrats enjoy such control of only 14 states, representing just 33 percent of the country.

    And not only are Republicans governing more than half the country, they are objectively doing a much better job at it than Democrats are. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average unemployment rate in the 25 states controlled completely by Republicans is just 7.2 percent, more than half a point lower than the national 7.9 percent unemployment rate. In the 14 states with full Democratic control, unemployment is 8.4 percent, a full half-point higher than the national average.

    The Republican state economies are growing faster too. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the real gross domestic product of the 25 Republican-controlled states has grown almost .25 points faster since 2008 than the real GDP of the 14 Democratic-controlled ones. And they aren't doing it by going into to debt. The Republican-controlled states on average have a Standard & Poor's credit rating a full grade higher (AA) than their Democratic counterparts (AA-).

    If President Obama and the Democrats want to improve the American people's trust in the federal government, they should heed the advice of Republican governors: Back off and give more power to the states. America's governing party will take it from there.

     
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    Homers.

     

    It's all nice and cuddly to extrapolate certain states' economic success out to the rest of the country...

    ...but it's just more correlation without causation fallacies masquerading as coprophagia among some on the right.

     

     
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    Homers.

     

    It's all nice and cuddly to extrapolate certain states' economic success out to the rest of the country...

    ...but it's just more correlation without causation fallacies masquerading as coprophagia among some on the right.

     



    A new pedanitc high point.  Context is a great thing, having never used the word before I was able to deduce that exact meaning from your expert use of coprophagia.

    But what do you have against local control, and why is big government always choice of liberals.

     
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    Homers.

     

    It's all nice and cuddly to extrapolate certain states' economic success out to the rest of the country...

    ...but it's just more correlation without causation fallacies masquerading as coprophagia among some on the right.

     

     



    A new pedanitc high point.  Context is a great thing, having never used the word before I was able to deduce that exact meaning from your expert use of coprophagia.

     

    But what do you have against local control, and why is big government always choice of liberals.



    Wrong again.  I'm neither against local control or for big government.

    I'm for ethical control and smart, efficient government across the board.  Locals can be petty, provincial and exclusionary, and smaller government isn't always smarter.  County govts can be every bit as reactionary as a town govt can.

    But a govt by, of and for the people can't just bail out on the people when they're in trouble or getting screwed for no reason.  A nation of laws means that we entrust some of the enforcement to govt to maintain order. (See: Locke)  And in America, we don't get to decide who moves in next to us.

    As with all things, there is a balance to be maintained...local/state, state/fed, public/private, majority/minority.  I'm for getting as close as possible to that balance....

     

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    But what do you have against local control, and why is big government always choice of liberals.



    You'd  have to go back over 30 years to find a republican administration that didn't grow government.  In that same period, Democrats have reduced government.

     
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    But what do you have against local control, and why is big government always choice of liberals.

     



    You'd  have to go back over 30 years to find a republican administration that didn't grow government.  In that same period, Democrats have reduced government.

     



    "Democrats have reduced government."

    Wow. You actually believe this....an alternate reality...

    It must be from a study by the 50,000 new unionized government workers employed at the "Department of Reducing Government"...

     
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    "I'm for ethical control and smart, efficient government across the board..."

    Smart efficient government is an "oxymoron" !

    (Not as fancy a word as 'coprophagia' , but the best I could come up with) .

     
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    the average unemployment rate in the 25 states controlled completely by Republicans is just 7.2 percent, more than half a point lower than the national 7.9 percent unemployment rate

     


    Of course, we all know that Red states also get more in Federal dollars than they pay into the Federal government.  Take that money away and it will be a different picture.

     
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    ".but it's just more correlation without causation fallacies masquerading as coprophagia among some on the right."
    Matty uses fancy words to defend the public sector, but it is in reality the same rationale as used by Mel Brooks in "Blazing Saddles" :

    Governor William J. Le Petomane: Holy underwear! Sheriff murdered! Innocent women and children blown to bits! We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

     
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    "Of course, we all know that Red states also get more in Federal dollars than they pay into the Federal government. Take that money away and it will be a different picture."

     Idiotic.  Liberals think "prosperity" comes from nothing but wonderful handouts from their beloved  Nanny State...

    The concept of wealth creation and economic growth are foreign to them...

     
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    "Of course, we all know that Red states also get more in Federal dollars than they pay into the Federal government. Take that money away and it will be a different picture."

     Idiotic.  Liberals think "prosperity" comes from nothing but wonderful handouts from their beloved  Nanny State...

    The concept of wealth creation and economic growth are foreign to them...




    I suppose that's why loony  right wingers love it when their corporations are subsidized by the government. 

    But maybe you are right - let's take away government from being such a nanny state to certain people.  I propose that we begin by stopping the subsidization of  the military industrial complex.  Let is amass its own wealth through its own efforts without subsidization. If you are as principled as you think you are, you will agree.

     

    Are we in accord?

     
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    "Of course, we all know that Red states also get more in Federal dollars than they pay into the Federal government. Take that money away and it will be a different picture."

     Idiotic.  Liberals think "prosperity" comes from nothing but wonderful handouts from their beloved  Nanny State...

    The concept of wealth creation and economic growth are foreign to them...

     




     

    I suppose that's why loony  right wingers love it when their corporations are subsidized by the government. 

    But maybe you are right - let's take away government from being such a nanny state to certain people.  I propose that we begin by stopping the subsidization of  the military industrial complex.  Let is amass its own wealth through its own efforts without subsidization. If you are as principled as you think you are, you will agree.

     

    Are we in accord?




    Yes, absolutely.

    Dont want any corporation subsidized by the Government. Of course , you no doubt swallow the leftist lie that the "Big Oil" companies are subsidized by government, but that is a lie.

    'Crony Capitalism' is what the Obama Administration is all about.

     
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    "I'm for ethical control and smart, efficient government across the board..."

    Smart efficient government is an "oxymoron" !



    That you may think so has nothing to do with our goal of trying our best with what we've got.

    Besides, you already said you think the red states are doing a bang-up job and that their s**t smells like roses.

    So clearly, you just want what you like and scroo the rest.

     

     

     
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    That you may think so has nothing to do with our goal of trying our best with what we've got.




    What about serious reform of "what we've got" so that "our goal of trying out best" is not consistently futile!

     
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    What about serious reform of "what we've got" so that "our goal of trying out best" is not consistently futile!

    As you well know, Matty did not say "hey, we should engage in non-serious reform that is futile! YEAH!"

    You're just throwing empty words and posturing at him, to make yourself feel like you've contributed something useful whereas he hasn't.



    Matty doesnt talk reform much at all! Some just want to give more of the peoples money to wasteful programs because they dont want to "appear" that they dont care for the poor.

     

     
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    Blue states are subsidizing the Red states .

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    "Of course, we all know that Red states also get more in Federal dollars than they pay into the Federal government. Take that money away and it will be a different picture."

     Idiotic.  Liberals think "prosperity" comes from nothing but wonderful handouts from their beloved  Nanny State...

    The concept of wealth creation and economic growth are foreign to them...

     




     

    I suppose that's why loony  right wingers love it when their corporations are subsidized by the government. 

    But maybe you are right - let's take away government from being such a nanny state to certain people.  I propose that we begin by stopping the subsidization of  the military industrial complex.  Let is amass its own wealth through its own efforts without subsidization. If you are as principled as you think you are, you will agree.

     

    Are we in accord?

     




     

    Yes, absolutely.

    Dont want any corporation subsidized by the Government. Of course , you no doubt swallow the leftist lie that the "Big Oil" companies are subsidized by government, but that is a lie.

    'Crony Capitalism' is what the Obama Administration is all about.




     

     

    A leftist lie?

     

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA! Laugh of the year!

     

    Even the Fox network knows it's true that oil is subsidized:

     

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/03/30/should-oil-companies-continue-to-receive-subsidies/

     

     

    Gotcha!

     

    I worked in the tax shelter unit of the Internal Revenue Service and audited those subsidy programs years ago.  You directed that post to the wrong person, buddy.

     

    Gotcha!!!!!!

     

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