Re: Australia's Living Wage
posted at 8/1/2013 2:21 PM EDT
In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
In response to skeeter20's comment:
i do not expect such work to provide a living wage
I don't want the government to give businesses corporate welfare to make up for their failure to pay a living wage.
Our economy was at its very best when minimum wage was at its highest in real dollar terms. That isn't necessarily because of the high wage, but it at least shows higher minimum wages aren't the business death knell you think they are.
The real question is why you object to single mothers getting help from welfare/food stamps, but have no problem with the reason this happens: minimum wage isn't a living wage.
Again, In my opinion, you have this all wrong. It is government, not businesses, that are the problem in people's financial lives. Nor is it the responsibility for business to guarrantee living wages, particularly for part time, entry level work, or for the government to enforce such a wrong-headed idea.
Look, the value of work is directly related to the skill required for the work. your supposition, that the pay of the job is directly related to the need of the worker, and that only, is moral and economic folly. It is not a bad sentiment, however. We should care for people, and our government should foster an environment where people are better off. How does government do that? by demanding a living wage for flipping burgers, or by stopping corporate welfare, and creating incentives for growth?
Here's a real-world example of a barrier for growth from government: Obamacare. let me break that down further.
* The medical device tax. This tax disincentivizes companies to invest in jobs and development by at least the rate of the tax.
* Penalties for not offering coverage. You think this was slid out a year because government was not able to implement, or because even Obama began to understand the negative consequences of these faculty lounge room ideas? They just don't work in the real world.
In each of these cases, businesses are being forced to divert funds to things other than their business. This is in addition to any corporate taxes, property taxes, etc. a company may pay.
This means less growth, fewer jobs created.
Obama want's a jobs program? Repeal Obamacare, and make a speech about: as altrustic the idea was, it was wrong to force it on the nation. He would not only stimulate the economy, he would win the respect of many.
One thing the left was upset about is how they could never get Bush to admit he was wrong on the Iraq war. Obama is squandering the same type of opportunity, to admit he was wrong, and grow in strength and stature.