Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    Repubs: 49-44% in favor

    Dems: 90-6% against

    Indies: 74-19% against

     

    Not good.  Whose idea was this anyway?!?  

     

    QUINNIPIAC POLL out this a.m.:

    “American voters oppose 72-22 percent Congress shutting down the federal government to block implementation of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare …

    Voters also oppose 64-27 percent blocking an increase in the nation’s debt ceiling as a way to stop Obamacare …

    American voters are divided on Obamacare, with 45 percent in favor and 47 percent opposed, but they are opposed 58-34 percent to Congress cutting off funding for the health care law to stop its implementation. Republicans support the federal government shutdown by a narrow 49-44 percent margin, but opposition is 90-6 percent among Democrats and 74-19 percent among independent voters.

    President Barack Obama gets a negative 45-49 percent overall job approval rating, [statistically unchanged from] 46-48 percent score August 2.

    American voters disapprove 74-17 percent of the job Republicans in Congress are doing, their lowest score ever, and disapprove 60-32 percent of the job Democrats are doing.”

     

    GOPers now would be like the Jacksonville Jaguars if they refused to play on Sunday yet still got credited with the win...simply because their fans want them to win.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    Geez really??

    No one wants a f-in shutdown and you know it!!

    The republicans sent a bill that laid out several realistic things they would compromise on to fund the govt and the dems said f-u and the america people!!

    It certainly wasnt defund obamacare or else the way some liars are trying to portray it!!

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Geez really??

    No one wants a f-in shutdown and you know it!!

    The republicans sent a bill that laid out several realistic things they would compromise on to fund the govt and the dems said f-u and the america people!!

    It certainly wasnt defund obamacare or else the way some liars are trying to portray it!!



    Except the poll shows that almost half of repubs DO want this shutdown.  These are the "american people" to whom intransigent house gopers are referring and apparently the only ones they're listening to.

    "Realistic" is not how normal people would describe cutting food stamps and trying to deny health care coverage for millions.

    "Defund obamacare" is indeed one of their planks...the one they're trying to nail themselves to as the martyrs they think they are.

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    So who said anyone was in favor of a shutdown?  I think the shutdown happened because the Dems said no 4 times.

    The latest CR just included language that said give the same ACA deal to all Americans; not just Congress and it's staffers, or government workers, or the waivers that Unions have or the waivers that hundreds of firms have received.

    The GOP said just treat everyone the same...answer from Dirty Harry; no, no ,no, no

     So who shut down the government why it was Harry and the Dem Senate the Party of No!

     

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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    Meanwhile it seems like exactly 100% of BDC Republicans and Conservatives appear to support it.

    Not that we needed a reminder of the caliber of idealogue we're dealing with, but hey.

     

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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    So who said anyone was in favor of a shutdown?  I think the shutdown happened because the Dems said no 4 times.

    The latest CR just included language that said give the same ACA deal to all Americans; not just Congress and it's staffers, or government workers, or the waivers that Unions have or the waivers that hundreds of firms have received.

    The GOP said just treat everyone the same...answer from Dirty Harry; no, no ,no, no


    That's not true.

    They want to exempt individuals the same as companies and other large buyers of health insurance.  The very notion is absurd and not how the law works.

    They wanted to delay implementation of the exchanges and the beginning of coverage on Jan 1, 2014...for no good reason other than wanting to see the law fail.

    The simple fact is that the gop has skewed so far to the right in relation to dems that they literally cannot see the center and lack even basic moderation.

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    Except the poll shows that almost half of repubs DO want this shutdown.  

     

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    So, your contention is that IF, asked "Do you think the federal govt should be shutdown? A majority of Republicans are saying yes?

    How these polls are worded and then what meaning they are prtrayed to give is the key!

    If, I asked do you believe if the dems will not compromise the republicans should shut down the govt rather than fund all of obamacare. Then yes a majority may have said yes!

    get real!

     

     
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    Any poll that starts by saying "do you support shutting down the Government"

    is a "push poll"...where the poll taker wants a certain result and will get it.

    The Government is f'ing up so bad, soon even this push poll will be answered, "hell yes".

    "opposition is 90-6 percent among Democrats"

    ...the brain dead Party of Government is heard from...

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Lying tool. Ugh there are no insults that capture just what a slug you are.

     

     

    Right. The GOP doesn't want a shutdown. They want Obamacare repealed. But because the latter isn't happening, they'll force a shutdown, lock themselves in the bedroom, and scream about how they hate their parents.

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    Again you are either an idiot or a liar, likely both come to think of it.

     

    The house DID NOT send the bill back to the senate with a "just defund obamacare or we'll shut down"!!

    They said add yourself back into the law without the subsidies you wont give taxpayers making less than you and/or, delay the tax on medical equipment that small business owners say will hurt hiring or even their ability to stay in business and/or defund it all together.

    The dems said f-u and compromise because we think the voters will blame you more than us!

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    Repubs: 49-44% in favor

    Dems: 90-6% against

    Indies: 74-19% against

     



     

    Must all be lies and conspiracy.

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    Repubs: 49-44% in favor

    Dems: 90-6% against

    Indies: 74-19% against

     

    Must all be lies and conspiracy.




    ITS A POLL and on the internet so it must be true!!

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Except the poll shows that almost half of repubs DO want this shutdown.  

     

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    So, your contention is that IF, asked "Do you think the federal govt should be shutdown? A majority of Republicans are saying yes?

    How these polls are worded and then what meaning they are prtrayed to give is the key!

    If, I asked do you believe if the dems will not compromise the republicans should shut down the govt rather than fund all of obamacare. Then yes a majority may have said yes!

    get real!

     

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    Can you read?  It's in the thread title and OP.  49% support the shutdown tactic employed by the GOPers.  That's not a majority, though it is a plurality.

    Well, that would be another poll from another source, now wouldn't it...?

    Be a good lad.  Scamper off and find one.

     

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Any poll that starts by saying "do you support shutting down the Government"

    is a "push poll"...where the poll taker wants a certain result and will get it.

    The Government is f'ing up so bad, soon even this push poll will be answered, "hell yes".

    "opposition is 90-6 percent among Democrats"

    ...the brain dead Party of Government is heard from...




    More shooting the messenger and ignoring the issue at hand.

    Why are you so unable to look at repubs critically, i.e. form the outside in?

     

    Instead, you and tv complain about poll questions and semantics.  Pathetic.

    Joe might be mostly wrong on his facts, but at least he's trying.

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    ITS A POLL and on the internet

     

     



    Just like you cite all the time when it's in favor of your position, swine.

     

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Can you read?  It's in the thread title and OP.  49% support the shutdown tactic employed by the GOPers.  That's not a majority, though it is a plurality.

     




    Sure, if the poll question was "do you support the republicans shutting down the govt if dems will not negotiate on obamacare"? Then heck yea a majority supported it!!

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    Just like you cite all the time when it's in favor of your position, swine.



    Go take a class on manipulating polls!

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

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    Can you read?  It's in the thread title and OP.  49% support the shutdown tactic employed by the GOPers.  That's not a majority, though it is a plurality.

     

     




    Sure, if the poll question was "do you support the republicans shutting down the govt if dems will not negotiate on obamacare"? Then heck yea a majority supported it!!

     

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    Except 49% is not a majority, doofus.  I don't care how the poll question is worded.

    So, who are gopers listening to, again?

     
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    Re: Barely Half Of Republican Americans Support This Shutdown Strategy

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    The relevent questions from the poll:

     

    37. Do you support or oppose Congress cutting off funding of the health care law as a way to stop it from being put into place?

                               Tot    Rep    Dem    Ind    Men    Wom    Wht    Blk    Hsp
     
    Support              34%   68%   10%   33%   38%    31%    39%   11%   28%
    Oppose               58      23      84       58      57       59       52      86       65
    DK/NA                   8        9        6        9        5        10        9        3        7


    38. Do you support or oppose Congress shutting down major activities of the federal government as a way to stop the health care law from being put into place?

                              Tot     Rep    Dem    Ind    Men    Wom    Wht    Blk    Hsp
     
    Support              22%   49%    6%    19%    25%   19%    25%     9%    23%
    Oppose               72      44      90      74       70       73       69       84     70
    DK/NA                   6        7         4       7        4          8         6         7      8


    39. Do you support or oppose Congress holding back on increasing the nation's borrowing limit, which could result in a default, as a way to stop the health care law from being put into place?

                              Tot    Rep    Dem    Ind    Men    Wom    Wht    Blk    Hsp
     
    Support              27%   52%    6%    30%    32%   23%    32%    7%    23%
    Oppose               64      39       86      62       63     66       61      80     67
    DK/NA                  8        9         8        8        5       11       7       13     10




    I think these are the more important points. Even if you think Obamacare is a crap salad, that doesn't mean that what the GOP is doing is the right way to fix it.

     

     

     
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