In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:
In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:
In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:
The Senate, as the other chamber in the bi-cameral Congress. through which all bills must pass, had an up-or-down vote where every senator was equally represented and they stripped out the amendments, approved the CR, and sent that funding bill back to the HoR.
The Senate allowed an up or down vote.
The HoR won't allow any vote.
So who's doing the obstructing?
If the HoR sends a bill and the Senate, by powers vested in it by the Constitution, votes to modify that bill, why won't the HoR take a vote rather than writing a new bill?
If they are so confident that the Senate version will fail then allow a vote and go on record as to where everyone stands.
But the HoR refuses to let the process work.
They are obstructing gov't.
The political process only works when parties are willing to meet, exchange ideas, discuss, negotiate and cut a deal.
Heck the Senate won't even meet in Conference Committee, talk about drawing a line in the sand. If they look at recent history the last Dem to draw a line in the sand needed to use Putin as a life line to change the conversation.
The Senate passed it's own budget in March and sent it to the HoR. They ignored it.
The Dems have been asking for a confrenece for the 6 months since, and the House refused.
The HoR believed they didn't have the leverage to extort and meaningful concessions over the summer so their strategy was to not conference and wait until critical mass was achieved and they had the power to shutdown the gov't....and this is the result.
So the Senate passed their first budget in 4 years and becuase the HoR didn't meet when they wanted to the Senate won't meet when its critical?
Both sides are acting like kids; nothing gets resolved until there is resolve to solve a problem by both.
As bad as the 90's were between Clinton and Gingrich; they both were committed to the political process resulting on a compromised solution. That's what's required in a divided Government, which is what we have. A good leader can help steer a centrist approach.
The good leader attributes of governing from the center is not what we currently have. POTUS still thinks he has control of both Houses of Congress and he clearly doesn't.
We are experiencing a monumental chasm of leadership.
Ummm, I think you've got that bass ackwards.
The Dems have been asking for a committee for 6 mths and the HoR told them to take a hike. Now, at the eleventh hour, the HoR wants to meet, on issues unrelated to the budget. No, you don't get to ignore the process for half a year and then blame the otherside when you call for a meeting after the stuff has hit the fan. The wingnuts delayed the process purely for political reasons and now the entire country has to suffer.
"...both were committed to the political process..."
And this is decidely NOT the political process. The political process happens during the legislative process, not after the law is passed, ajudicated by SCotUS and in place for 3 yrs. That is extortion, plain and simple.
And if the gop-ers were really invested in the political process then they would pick up one of the 4 or 5 CR bills that the Senate has returned to them, after going through a straight-up political process in the Senate, and hold a vote on it. Bonner refuses to even consider holding a vote on any bill that has already passed the Senate's political process ... just because he and the tp-ers don't like the result of that process and know that they would lose that vote.
This has nothing to do with PotUS or leadership anything else but the wingnuts intransgience. How can you 'lead' the other party when they are willing to hold the entire country hostage because they don't like a law passed by duly elected representatives, ajudicated as Constitutional by SCotUS and in place for 3 yrs?
How can you expect to 'lead' the opposing party who have stated, unequivocally' that they will oppose anything and everything that Obama puts forth and will do anything to make him a one-term PotUS?
It's not Obama's fault that the gop-ers have a dearth of leadership.
It has everything to do with our leader's lack of leadership; a great community organizer and campaigner doesn't automatically make a great leader and we paying for it. After all Clinton figured out how to deal with the evil Gingrich.