BDC conservatives smarter than vast majority of climate scientists

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    Feel better now?

     
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    Not that it totally discredits anything but, IOP Science is a wikipedia type website and anyone can post anything without any verification process of validity.

    Their disclaimer:

     

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    So, your title may be accurate!

     
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    The fear of admitting he was duped by IOP Science is strong with this one.

     
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    It doesn't really matter what gets said in the scientific community. If it doesn't fit the script, Fox News won't run it and right-wing talk shows won't talk about it, so the truth will never become The Truth.

    The world of right-wing ideology is immune to facts, because their media will call those telling the truth liars, and the Faithful will believe them. Arguments go nowhere - what we're dealing with is a dangerous cult bent on distorting American values and destroying a century of progress.

     
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    Another rant. You're on a roll today.

     
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    It doesn't really matter what gets said in the scientific community. If it doesn't fit the script, Fox News won't run it and right-wing talk shows won't talk about it, so the truth will never become The Truth.

    The world of right-wing ideology is immune to facts, because their media will call those telling the truth liars, and the Faithful will believe them. Arguments go nowhere - what we're dealing with is a dangerous cult bent on distorting American values and destroying a century of progress.




    You are correct but, do you seriously believe that behavior is just with "right" issues and entities and not exactly the same with the "left" and their entities?

     
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    Not that it totally discredits anything but, IOP Science is a wikipedia type website and anyone can post anything without any verification process of validity.

    Their disclaimer:

     

    This Disclaimer contains important information specifically about your use of this website. Please read it carefully. While IOP takes reasonable steps to ensure that the information contained on this website is accurate, the contents are provided "as is" and only for general information purposes. This Disclaimer was last updated on 30 December 2009.

    1. IOP does not monitor, verify or endorse information submitted for posting on this website and does not guarantee the accuracy, reliability, completeness or usefulness of, or otherwise adopt or endorse, any information or services provided. No responsibility is accepted by or on behalf of IOP for any error, omission or misleading statement on this website or any website to which its pages connect or for any injury, loss or damage that occurs as a result of an opinion expressed or information provided. Neither can IOP guarantee that any information or services are still current and/or applicable and it is the sole responsibility of the user to ensure that any information that they access from this website is accurate, complete and useful.

     

    So, your title may be accurate!




    So, basically you don't understand the first post.


    The ariticle is describing the process of finding independent research on climate change, followed by outreach the authors for follow up questioning.  In other words, the reasearch being aggregated was created elsewhere, not on their website, so your post makes no sense at all.  Boilerplate language concerning general liability issues that most websites have isn't a rebuttal, I mean, really WTF?

     
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    "What a pvssy"




    lol, still need an adult to show you how to properly use that term I see.

     
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    The ariticle is describing the process of finding independent research on climate change, followed by outreach the authors for follow up questioning.  In other words, the reasearch being aggregated was created elsewhere, not on their website, so your post makes no sense at all.  Boilerplate language concerning general liability issues that most websites have isn't a rebuttal, I mean, really?



    It wasnt meant to be a rebuttal.

    It was meant to show the fact that IPO scienve does not verify the accuracy of the articles published on the webpage.

    Still confused?

     
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    BDC conservatives smarter than vast majority of climate scientists

    This is true. How nice of you to notice.

     

    [QUOTE]A new study has just come out that looked at nearly 12,000 professional scientific journal papers about global warming, and found that—of the papers expressing a stance on global warming—97 percent endorse both the reality of global warming and the fact that humans are causing it.[/QUOTE]

    Oh really Phil? Did you take a look at the methodology of your study?

    http://rankexploits.com/musings/2013/on-the-consensus/

    John Cook, proprietor of the website Skeptical Science, recently published a paper with the help of members of his site. They describe their study as examining the abstracts of “over 12,000 peer-reviewed climate science papers” and finding “a 97% consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that humans are causing global warming.” This study has received media fanfare, and even Barack Obama, the President of the United States, tweeted about it.

     

    We’ve been having fun on this site about this study, but what I say next I cannot say with any humor. It is simply too serious. Skeptical Science recently invited people to rate the 12,000+ abstracts via Skeptical Science’s interactive rating system so people could “measure the climate consensus” themselves. An additional feature of the system allows users to view the abstracts, as well as the ratings given by the people behind the paper.

     

    The guidelines for rating these abstracts show only the highest rating value blames the majority of global warming on humans. No other rating says how much humans contribute to global warming. The only time an abstract is rated as saying how much humans contribute to global warming is if it mentions:

     

    that human activity is a dominant influence or has caused most of recent climate change (>50%).

     

    If we use the system’s search feature for abstracts that meet this requirement, we get 65 results. That is 65, out of the 12,000+ examined abstracts. Not only is that value incredibly small, it is smaller than another value listed in the paper:

     

    Reject AGW 0.7% (78)

     

    Remembering AGW stands for anthropogenic global warming, or global warming caused by humans, take a minute to let that sink in.  This study done by John Cook and others, praised by the President of the United States, found more scientific publications whose abstracts reject global warming than say humans are primarily to blame for it.

     

    The “consensus” they’re promoting says it is more likely humans have a negligible impact on the planet’s warming than a large one.

    Written by Brandon Shollenberger.

     

    65 out of over 12,000 abstracts. That's quite a concensus you have going on there Phil. Perhaps you should stick to astronomy for a while...

     

     
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    The ariticle is describing the process of finding independent research on climate change, followed by outreach the authors for follow up questioning.  In other words, the reasearch being aggregated was created elsewhere, not on their website, so your post makes no sense at all.  Boilerplate language concerning general liability issues that most websites have isn't a rebuttal, I mean, really?

     



    It wasnt meant to be a rebuttal.

     

    It was meant to show the fact that IPO scienve does not verify the accuracy of the articles published on the webpage.

    Still confused?




    They don't need to, actual scientific research is peer reviewed, prior to publishing.  They are republishing with permission.  But that misses the actual point, which is, among those trained and qualified to speak as experts on the matter, 97% agree that climate change is real and that it is man made. 

     
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    "actual scientific research is peer reviewed, prior to publishing"

    You mean like Jason Richwine's actual scientific research in his 2009 Ph.D. dissertation at Harvard’s Kennedy School , which was peer reviewed and signed off on by numerous liberal scholars?

    Richwine has now lost his job, because he reported scientific research that was not politically correct...

    Yes, science is at the beck and call of liberals..but only if it says what they need it to say...

     

     
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    97% agree that climate change is real and that it is man made. 



    That's a characterization and lends to the concept that climate change is man made!

    Climate change is NOT man made. Climate change has been happening for milleniums!

    The argument to me is not whether industry, lack of forestation, vehicle emissions, swimming pools etc are bad for the environment and increase "greenhouse" gasses that are trapped in the ozone for a while before being released to space.

    The argument is to what degree does it affect climate change, how, and what is a reasonable way to stop it if, it is.

     
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    If we do a different query that deliberately avoids what we don't want to see, we get a result that does not include what we didn't want to see.

    Bingo!


    By the way, when are we going to get around to asking your consensus why warming has not taken place for over 15 years despite the millions of tons of CO2 that we've pumped into the atmosphere during that time? Oh right, I forgot, it's being "saved" in the oceans.

     

     

     

     
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    Thanks for posting a graph that goes back to 1880. That was helpful.

    If you're trying to make the point that there's been warming, we agree. If you're trying to prove that the cause is CO2, not so much.

     

     
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    "actual scientific research is peer reviewed, prior to publishing"

    You mean like Jason Richwine's actual scientific research in his 2009 Ph.D. dissertation at Harvard’s Kennedy School , which was peer reviewed and signed off on by numerous liberal scholars?

    Richwine has now lost his job, because he reported scientific research that was not politically correct...

    Yes, science is at the beck and call of liberals..but only if it says what they need it to say...

     




    A thesis and a peer reviewed paper intended for publishing are not the same thing.  Acceptance of a thesis doesn't mean an endoresment of the subject matter contained therein or validation of its contents.  You don't know what you are talking about. 

     
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    If you're trying to prove the cause isn't CO2, restricting the scope of the investigation to the last 15 years is downright ret@rded

    Why?

     

     

     
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    On a geological scale, pointing to a cherry-picked 15 years is no different than pointing to a March blizzard as evidence....     




    Arent you playing scientist, with that statement?

     
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    Clue: Nobody said that man-caused global warming is so powerful that it would overwhelm all cooling cycles for all time.




    So is man just causing "global warming" not "global cooling" as well?

    I thought we were now causing "climate change" overall and making all bad stuff bigger and badder with our industrial crap?

     
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    LOL. Why do BDC conservatives think they can defeat science with semantics? 

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    Not beat. We just accept the fact that many scientifc, peer reviewed accepted studies have proven to be utterly false!

     

    Why do you act like if, "scientific peer reviewed studies" show something, then it is an absolute?

    You throw "scientist" around like thumpers throw GOD around!

     
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    Sorry, Brilliant Comrade, but the ocean does, in fact, trap CO2).

    So, thanks for that exhaustive explanation of something that I didn't say. I was referring to the "warming" being trapped in the oceans, not CO2, making fun of a previous Matty comment. In fact, our oceans are a massive CO2 sink which is one reason why the CO2 that we output has such a negligble effect.

     

    [QUOTE]On a geological scale, pointing to a cherry-picked 15 years is no different than pointing to a March blizzard as evidence....[/QUOTE]

    And yet we're constantly being told, based on Michael Mann's computer models, that if we don't DO SOMETHING NOW we're in deep kimche. In fact, according to some past predictions, we should already all be dying off due to global warming.

    It's either geologic or it isn't, you can't have it both ways.

     

     
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    On a geological scale, pointing to a cherry-picked 15 years is no different than pointing to a March blizzard as evidence....

    And yet we're constantly being told, based on Michael Mann's computer models, that if we don't DO SOMETHING NOW we're in deep kimche. In fact, according to some past predictions, we should already all be dying off due to global warming.

    It's either geologic or it isn't, you can't have it both ways. 

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    And the glaciers should all be melted by now; all polar bears should be dead and the eastern and western seaboards should be under water!

     
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    I dunno.  there's a big yellow thing out there every morning in the sky that seems to have more to do with the temperature of the atmosphere than anything else.

    I say we turn it off or something.  Maybe hit it with a stick until it goes away.

     
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