Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

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    Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

    From the lengthy interesting interview w/ the Seal 6 shooter.

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    The group discussed what would happen if they were surrounded by Pakistani troops. We would surrender. The original plan was to have Vice-President Biden fly to Islamabad and negotiate our release with Pakistan's president.

    This is hearsay, but I understand Obama said, Hell no. My guys are not surrendering. What do we need to rain hell on the Pakistani military? That was the one time in my life I was thinking, I am f**king voting for this guy. I had a picture of him lying in bed at night, thinking, You're not f**king with my guys. Like, he's thinking about us.

    http://cironline.org/node/4139

     

    cited by

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/11/navy_seal_bin_laden_story_shooter_recalls_moment_he_killed_osama_bin_laden.html
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    But yeah....he doesn't care about Benghazi. Right.

     

     

     

     

    (Of course, I've never heard of the source, so....I can't be sure it's real).

     
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    And on the non-political end of the thread...

     

    "One of the tests is they make you dive to the bottom of a pool and tie five knots," the Shooter says. "One guy got to the fifth knot and blacked out underwater. We pulled him up and he was, like, dead. They made the class face the fence while they tried to resuscitate him. The first words as he spit out water were 'Did I pass? Did I tie the fifth knot?' The instructor told him, 'We didn't want to find out if you could tie the knots, you @@@hole, we wanted to know how hard you'd push yourself. You killed yourself. You passed.' "

     

     

    "Praise them. Praise them with great praise."

     
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    In response to Newtster's comment:

     

    He cares that the truth stay covered up!

    Very good.

     

    In response to Newtster's comment:

    And what difference does it make if the story is real or not?


    That thought process explains an awful lot of the things you say.

     
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    Re: Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

    Anyone can see Obama cares.

     
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    Of course he cares. He's just over his head and imho has pretty shady advisors.

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Of course he cares.


    My how quickly you change your mind.....

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Yea no reason for the CIC to care when our people are being attacked and killed for 12 hours!!

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    So, Obama is told at the beginning "the American Consulate in Beghazi is under attack" he says "ok", and gives no direction nor does he appear to care enough to even ask for updates. the attack continues for 12 hours and 4 Americans are murdered

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    When Americans diplomats are attacked by armed groups overseas; I expect him to be engaged and aware of every aspect of it during the event and until it is completed! Why is that asking too much of the Commander in Chief??

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    There is reason for alarm in the POTUS's response and characterists of what happened the next day because he wasnt engaged.

    That is a problem. Every leader knows those that follow you will only exhibit the amount of urgency and intitiative shown by the leader!!

    If my leader is unconcerned and apathetic why should I be any dfferent?




     

    .....why, it's almost like you take whatever position disagrees with the hated librul at the moment without regard for anything else you have said on the subject.

     
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    In response to Newtster's comment:

     

     



    Yeah...sure...if you need to believe you "won" something....   

     

     

     
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    Of course Obama cares. The wingnuts on this site seem to believe that all Obama had to do was rub the magic genie bottle and everything would go away. It's not how it works in the real world and anyone who works in embassies and consulates in high risk areas will tell you the same.

    Blaming Obama for Benghazi is about as ridiculous as blaming Bush for 9/11.

     
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    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    Wow, We just went through a wingnut administration whose advisors ignored the intel leading up to 9/11 and then sent the country careening into an ill-advised war based on conflicting and incomplete intel and you call these advisors 'shady'.

    Freakin Hilarious!!!!

    what you think about history is not relevent to this topic

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    In response to Newtster's comment:

     



    Yeah...sure...if you need to believe you "won" something....  




     

    Right, and Bush served a plastic turkey to the troops too. Just keep serving up these stupid, false librul memes WDYWN, it should do wonders for your credibility.

     

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    And on the non-political end of the thread...

    "One of the tests is they make you dive to the bottom of a pool and tie five knots," the Shooter says. "One guy got to the fifth knot and blacked out underwater. We pulled him up and he was, like, dead. They made the class face the fence while they tried to resuscitate him. The first words as he spit out water were 'Did I pass? Did I tie the fifth knot?' The instructor told him, 'We didn't want to find out if you could tie the knots, you @@@hole, we wanted to know how hard you'd push yourself. You killed yourself. You passed.' "

    "Praise them. Praise them with great praise."




     

    We are in complete agreement here. Thanks for posting this.

     

     
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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    Just keep serving up these stupid, false librul memes WDYWN, it should do wonders for your credibility.


    That tvoter was being dishonest when he said Obama doesn't care about the people killed in Benghazi is a "supid, false librul meme" ?

     

    Interesting.....    

    That certainly helped your credibility.

     
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    That tvoter was being dishonest when he said Obama doesn't care about the people killed in Benghazi is a "supid, false librul meme" ?

     

    Referring to your amazingly stupid, albeit visual only, "mission accomplished" reference. But do carry on with your strawman, I'm sure he's very comforting to you.

     

     
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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    Referring to your amazingly stupid, albeit visual only, "mission accomplished" reference. But do carry on with your strawman, I'm sure he's very comforting to you.


    Perhaps it isn't the referene that is "amazingly stupid" but the person who misinterpreted it.

     

    Clue: I was equating Newtster's response "WOOSH." with Bush declaring "Mission Accomplished."

     

    Merely saying "WOOSH" didn't make him right and me wrong...     but he thinks it did.

     


    Had nothing to do with Iraq....

     
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    Re: Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

    Of course he cares. He's just over his head and imho has pretty shady advisors.

     




     

    Wow, We just went through a wingnut administration whose advisors ignored the intel leading up to 9/11 and then sent the country careening into an ill-advised war based on conflicting and incomplete intel and you call these advisors 'shady'.

    Freakin Hilarious!!!!




    Do you ever really smack yourself in the face with your knee?

    Bet it smarts like crazy.......

     
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    Re: Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:



    That tvoter was being dishonest when he said Obama doesn't care about the people killed in Benghazi is a "supid, false librul meme" ? 

    He is human and of course he cares as I've said. I alos said he didnt care enough to even check in with the state dept during the attack.

    Not because he didnt care more it was just not a priority at that time that our consulate was under attack and americans in danger apparently

     
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    In response to FaolanofEssex's comment:

    Anyone can see Obama cares.



    Maybe he cares, but that actions that result from his caring are allmessed up.  That's what happens when an incompetent is in the White house.  Surely you see that from the Bush years as well?

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    He is human and of course he cares as I've said.

     

    Yea these quotes sure sound like you saying he cares.

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Yea no reason for the CIC to care when our people are being attacked and killed for 12 hours!!

     

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    So, Obama is told at the beginning "the American Consulate in Beghazi is under attack" he says "ok", and gives no direction nor does he appear to care enough to even ask for updates. the attack continues for 12 hours and 4 Americans are murdered

     

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    When Americans diplomats are attacked by armed groups overseas; I expect him to be engaged and aware of every aspect of it during the event and until it is completed! Why is that asking too much of the Commander in Chief??

     

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

    There is reason for alarm in the POTUS's response and characterists of what happened the next day because he wasnt engaged.

    That is a problem. Every leader knows those that follow you will only exhibit the amount of urgency and intitiative shown by the leader!!

    If my leader is unconcerned and apathetic why should I be any dfferent?

     




    " I alos said he didnt care enough to even check in with the state dept during the attack."

     

    According to Panetta, in the thread you started, the attack was over before the President heard about it. You fault him for not building a time machine so he can go back in time to check in during the attack?

    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/panetta-said-obama-was-absent-during-beghazi-and-never-even-checked-in-wow/80/6539175

     

     

     

    Backtracking and lying as always. Sigh.

     

     

     
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    Re: Becaue Obama doesn't care...?

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got their too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have neen differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.