Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

     

     

     

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/01/06/Biden-Flashback-Iraq-Will-Be-One-of-Obama-Greatest-Achievements

     

    Vice President Joe Biden February 2010 on CNN's "Larry King Live"

     
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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    It's a shame that the neo-cons believe that sending our troops to fight and die in another country's civil war is a good thing only because the person who made that civil war happen had an R after his name but supporting a popular revolution in Libya without a single loss of an American life is an impeachable offense.

    It's just sad that some people think our troops are political fodder to be sacrificed on their alter of ideology.

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    I think it is only you that thinks that.

    How uninformed.

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

    We've wasted trillions of dollars on these wars, injuring or killing thousands of young lives in the process. Now that we are swimming in debt because of these stupid wars, the House GOP wants to cut things like food stamps and unemployment benefits for the poor to pay for their follies without raising revenues so much as a centimeter.

    What sick minds they have!  Vote accordingly.

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    It's a shame that the neo-cons believe that sending our troops to fight and die in another country's civil war is a good thing only because the person who made that civil war happen had an R after his name but supporting a popular revolution in Libya without a single loss of an American life is an impeachable offense.

    It's just sad that some people think our troops are political fodder to be sacrificed on their alter of ideology.

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    I think it is only you that thinks that.

    How uninformed.

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    Hardly

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

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    Talk about a dumb opinion.  The Admin didn't give Fallujah back, the Iraqi's couldn't keep the bad guys out, end of story.  Its not surprising considering we destroyed their military, kicked out their experienced soldiers, and then recreated their amry with scraps and light armaments.  Our presense there is over and thankfully we have pulled our guys out of an active combat role.  If the Iraqi's want American fire power they can easily hire one of our many mercenary groups.  US interests are not served by continuing to pour american treasure into a bottomless pit.  

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

     

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    Talk about a dumb opinion.  The Admin didn't give Fallujah back, the Iraqi's couldn't keep the bad guys out, end of story.  Its not surprising considering we destroyed their military, kicked out their experienced soldiers, and then recreated their amry with scraps and light armaments.  Our presense there is over and thankfully we have pulled our guys out of an active combat role.  If the Iraqi's want American fire power they can easily hire one of our many mercenary groups.  US interests are not served by continuing to pour american treasure into a bottomless pit.  

     

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    President Obama has led a war,  halfway around the world,  for 5 years. Talk about a bottomless pit.

    "575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took office—and yet, little in that war-torn country has changed."

    As usual, liberal peaceniks only feign outrage at Republican Presidents.

    Is President Obama a "neo-con", given that he has led a foreign war for 5 years and counting, with little or nothing to show for it?

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    Yet another war that was started by bush with zero exit strategy.Afghanistan crippled the Soviet union and was major reason for its collapse. I have zero interest in continuing our military presence Afghanistan, at this point it is a serious waste of resources.

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Talk about a dumb opinion.  The Admin didn't give Fallujah back, the Iraqi's couldn't keep the bad guys out, end of story.  Its not surprising considering we destroyed their military, kicked out their experienced soldiers, and then recreated their amry with scraps and light armaments.  Our presense there is over and thankfully we have pulled our guys out of an active combat role.  If the Iraqi's want American fire power they can easily hire one of our many mercenary groups.  US interests are not served by continuing to pour american treasure into a bottomless pit.  

     

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    President Obama has led a war,  halfway around the world,  for 5 years. Talk about a bottomless pit.

    "575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took office—and yet, little in that war-torn country has changed."

    As usual, liberal peaceniks only feign outrage at Republican Presidents.

    Is President Obama a "neo-con", given that he has led a foreign war for 5 years and counting, with little or nothing to show for it?

    [/QUOTE]

    Yet another war that was started by bush with zero exit strategy.Afghanistan crippled the Soviet union and was major reason for its collapse. I have zero interest in continuing our military presence Afghanistan, at this point it is a serious waste of resources.

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    Afghanistan was started by Bush? Are you kidding? Do you not remember 9/11 and bin Laden? Remember the whole thing about going after bin Laden for 9/11? In fact at that point pretty much the entire world was behind us on that one. 

     
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    Re: Biden Flashback: Iraq Will Be One of Obama's Greatest Achievements

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

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    OK General, not that you have the slightest qualification to judge what would have worked, but just how many decades, how many lives, and how much money should be spent cleaning up Bush's failed attempt to "bring democracy to the middle east"?

     



    We did establish a democracy!
    de·moc·ra·cy (d-mkr-s)

    n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies 1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.  

     

    They had elections and elected representatives.   After 2009 the jihadist knew all they had to do was wait it out, because the leadership now was just a "paper tiger" that didnt have the resolve any longer and would flee!   They were right!

     
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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Talk about a dumb opinion.  The Admin didn't give Fallujah back, the Iraqi's couldn't keep the bad guys out, end of story.  Its not surprising considering we destroyed their military, kicked out their experienced soldiers, and then recreated their amry with scraps and light armaments.  Our presense there is over and thankfully we have pulled our guys out of an active combat role.  If the Iraqi's want American fire power they can easily hire one of our many mercenary groups.  US interests are not served by continuing to pour american treasure into a bottomless pit.  

     

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    President Obama has led a war,  halfway around the world,  for 5 years. Talk about a bottomless pit.

    "575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took office—and yet, little in that war-torn country has changed."

    As usual, liberal peaceniks only feign outrage at Republican Presidents.

    Is President Obama a "neo-con", given that he has led a foreign war for 5 years and counting, with little or nothing to show for it?

    [/QUOTE]

    Yet another war that was started by bush with zero exit strategy.Afghanistan crippled the Soviet union and was major reason for its collapse. I have zero interest in continuing our military presence Afghanistan, at this point it is a serious waste of resources.

    [/QUOTE]

    Afghanistan was started by Bush? Are you kidding? Do you not remember 9/11 and bin Laden? Remember the whole thing about going after bin Laden for 9/11? In fact at that point pretty much the entire world was behind us on that one. 

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    True, but only to the extent of finding and punishing the perpetrators.  The Obama administration, with a cold trail, accomplished this in 2 years and change.  Don't you at least wonder what our committment in Afghanistan would have looked like without the Iraq distraction?  Or with a more competent leadership?

     
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    Its a shame this admin gave back fallujah after so many of our troops fought and died to secure it.

    We could of left some fast attack teams in close proximity and they could have prevented this huge setback!

    But, it was more about appeasing than doing the right thing for the US interests or Iraq!

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Talk about a dumb opinion.  The Admin didn't give Fallujah back, the Iraqi's couldn't keep the bad guys out, end of story.  Its not surprising considering we destroyed their military, kicked out their experienced soldiers, and then recreated their amry with scraps and light armaments.  Our presense there is over and thankfully we have pulled our guys out of an active combat role.  If the Iraqi's want American fire power they can easily hire one of our many mercenary groups.  US interests are not served by continuing to pour american treasure into a bottomless pit.  

     

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    President Obama has led a war,  halfway around the world,  for 5 years. Talk about a bottomless pit.

    "575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took office—and yet, little in that war-torn country has changed."

    As usual, liberal peaceniks only feign outrage at Republican Presidents.

    Is President Obama a "neo-con", given that he has led a foreign war for 5 years and counting, with little or nothing to show for it?

    [/QUOTE]

    Yet another war that was started by bush with zero exit strategy.Afghanistan crippled the Soviet union and was major reason for its collapse. I have zero interest in continuing our military presence Afghanistan, at this point it is a serious waste of resources.

    [/QUOTE]

    Afghanistan was started by Bush? Are you kidding? Do you not remember 9/11 and bin Laden? Remember the whole thing about going after bin Laden for 9/11? In fact at that point pretty much the entire world was behind us on that one. 

    [/QUOTE]

    True, but only to the extent of finding and punishing the perpetrators.  The Obama administration, with a cold trail, accomplished this in 2 years and change.  Don't you at least wonder what our committment in Afghanistan would have looked like without the Iraq distraction?  Or with a more competent leadership?

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    You're getting into a different discussion. The issue was about someone saying Bush STARTED Afghanistan. He didn't. End of story.

     

     
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    OK General, not that you have the slightest qualification to judge what would have worked, but just how many decades, how many lives, and how much money should be spent cleaning up Bush's failed attempt to "bring democracy to the middle east"?

     



    We did establish a democracy!
    de·moc·ra·cy (d-mkr-s)

     

    n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies 1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.  

     

    They had elections and elected representatives.   After 2009 the jihadist knew all they had to do was wait it out, because the leadership now was just a "paper tiger" that didnt have the resolve any longer and would flee!   They were right!

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    Hogwash.....Democracy is alien to them.  Iraq is an artificial nation cobbled together by foreign interests.  They are basically three countries trying to be one.  There will never be any democracy of multi-ethnic and religious groups working together in harmony.  The sooner we accept this, the better off we'll be. 

     

     
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    Is it really that hard to answer a question, if you know so much tvoter? You seemed to think you knew what would have prevented deteroration of the situation.

    Seems all you had, again, was hindsight.

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    You are obviously talking about maintaining security for the democracy.

    I do not know how long it would have taken. I did agree with turning over security to Iraqi forces and the govt but, I also agreed with the experts that stated if, we do not leave a strike force that can quickly re-engage the jihadist when the Iraqi military is overwhelmed then the it will be extremely difficult for the Iraqi military/government to succeed.

    We should have had attack ships (helo's), drones, and a few fighter aircraft in Kuwait for quick deployment as recommended!

     

     
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    Im not  a big McCain fan but they were spot on then and we will pay the price for a hasty POLITICAL decision made by this administration.

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/07/we-saw-it-coming-hear-mccains-take-al-qaedas-resurgence-iraq

     
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    Im not a big McCain fan but they were spot on then and we will pay the price for a hasty POLITICAL decision made by this administration.

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/07/we-saw-it-coming-hear-mccains-take-al-qaedas-resurgence-iraq

     
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