Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief

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    Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief

    Of couse he is the TEOP cant run on a record so they need to play BS politics.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Bill Clinton says he has high regard for Dick Cheney's political skills even if the former vice president tries to cause mischief for Democrats.

    Cheney recently praised Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton as one of the Obama administration's "most competent" members and said it would be "interesting to speculate" how she might be as president.

    Cheney suggested, tongue in cheek, she might want to challenge Barack Obama in 2012, and said he wouldn't discourage a primary fight.

    Bill Clinton tells CBS' "Face the Nation" he's "gratified whenever anyone says anything nice" about his wife, but one of Cheney's skills "is sowing discord among the opposition" and he doesn't want to help Cheney's strategy succeed.



     
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    Cheney recently praised Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton as one of the Obama administration's "most competent" members and said it would be "interesting to speculate" how she might be as president.

    Awesome! Hillary would have been just as corrupt as Obama but she would have done it in a vastly more competent way.

    By the way, Cheney isn't the only one engaging in this speculation. Lot's of Democrats are too. I guess they're engaging is mischief too, eh?

     
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    Moo hoo ha ha ha

    Dude, someone just has to photoshop Cheney's face over Dr. Evil's body with the whole pinky to the mouth thing going on. That would be priceless!

     
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    Perfect!
     
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    Why are liberals so afraid of an old guy without a heartbeat who holds no office??
     
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    I suppose it must have been Cheney or Haliburton who ran the poll that found people wish Hillary were president, or swayed the NY-9 race or just made the Bush legacy economy so bad that no one could have fixed it in one term and that its a miracle its as good as it it.  I actually read an editorial on the very premise of the Bush toxic economy,........so it's still Bush's fault.
     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]Why are liberals so afraid of an old guy without a heartbeat who holds no office??
    Posted by macnh1[/QUOTE]

    Same reason they are afraid of Sarah Palin.  Adults scare the left.
     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : I know, crazy huh? Everyone knows previous economic policies get rescinded and set to zero whenever a new administration is sworn in....or is it on election day, I can't remember.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    No the real question is, when does the current office holder own it.  Under the Dem scenario, once Obama is voted out of office and the economy begins to really recover in the summer of 2013 then the left will say how Obama did it.

    The policies under the Bush years (even though they had broad bipartisan support) caused the economy to go into the proverbial ditch.  We elected the Hope and Change wreck recovery service and all they did was cause the wheels on the economy to spin aimlessly while it got mired into the mud.  So after 2- 1/2 years the economy is still in the ditch but now its even more stuck; do you still go with Hope and Change or do you get a real recovery team, I think we're heading for a new team.

     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : So now legislation passed by reconcilliation in Congress is 'bipartisan', like the Bush tax cut? Great, now we can refer to HCR as a bipartisan law. Who knew? Or when 189 of 215 Dems in House and 40 of 44 Senators voted AGAINST Medicare part D that was a bipartisan vote. Even a MAJORITY of Dems in Congress voted against the Iraq war. Geepers, you sure do stretch 'facts' to the point of absurdity to fit your whacko wingnut alternate reality. Not to mention the fact that Bush had 8 yrs in office, 6 with a wingnut Congress.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    I do tend to speak in braod based generalities as opposed to focusing on discrete items that don't mean a thing.

    Yeah, who would have thought that the Dems would vote against Medicare part D,...could it have been grid lock politics.  They claim they are the protectors of Medicare I doubt they have an asterick on their campaign signs saying they were against it before they were for it.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : Yeah, who would've thought that the Dems would be the reponsible party and wanted the largest unfunded expansion of Medicare to actually be paid for. Crazy Huh? Yep, the Dems were the party of fiscal sanity before it was a fashionable  campaign slogan for the whacko wingnuts who co-opted it purely thru rhetoric and jargon. It's obvious the wingnuts can't be trusted. Say what you want about HCR, at least there is a funding mechanism, Medicare part D, ehhhh no so much, in fact not at all. Hmmm, I wonder why the wingnuts aren't using that piece of legislation in their current campaign slogans? I doubt they have a footnote on their signs. And by the way, supporting Medicare doesn't mean irrational and reckless expansion purely for cheap political theater for the obvious reason of buying off the senior vote.  Don't you find it a bit hypocritical that only a few years after Part D, the whacko wingnuts are again changing their populist rhetoric and saying they need to gut the program because it's unsustainable? Gives a person whiplash trying to keep up with the flip flopping of the wingnuts. 
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    The Bush Medicare part D expansion was wrong in an unfunded environment. So much for a fiscally irresponsible compassionate conservative President.

     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : Just curious, could you name a few Bush policies that "... had broad bipartisan support" which "... caused the economy to go into the proverbial ditch"? Heck, three of the largest contributors to the current deficit were the tax cuts, the Iraq war and Medicare part D, none of which were bi-partisan. One was partisanship at it's finest, 'reconcilliation'. One was vehemently opposed on responsible fiscal grounds. and One was rejected by a majority of Dems, even in the face of a massive PR campaign which resorted to questioning ones patriotism.  The tone of your post clearly is to imply there was a multitude of policies the Dems agreed to, so a few should be a cinch. And keep in mind, the executive branch has the responsibility of enacting and enforcing laws. 
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    So the Bush tax cuts were wrong after 911 and there wasn't biparisan support for entering Iraq?  ...or is this just a case where the Dems were for them before they were against them?

     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : So the Bush tax cuts were wrong after 911 and there wasn't biparisan support for entering Iraq?  ...or is this just a case where the Dems were for them before they were against them?
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Face it, the Democrats were cornered by history for those things.  they couldn't be against these things, because they were so blindingly right at a time when people were not going to stand for the typical democrat sludge.

    Now that 911 is in the distant past of their feeble brains, they are back to undermining the middle class and making sure that the U.S. is nothing special.
     
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    In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bill Clinton: Cheney trying to cause 2012 mischief : Yes, the Bush tax cuts were wrong. They created the largest deficits in history. Or doesn't deficits matter any more? The Iraq war was the closest example of bi-partisan support but still a majority of Dems voted against it. If it was up to the Dems, it wouldn't have been passed.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    Spending created the deficits, and as I have said before, when it came to economics, Bush was a liberal.
     
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