Climate change? What climate change?

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    Climate change? What climate change?

    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

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    I dunno. Pretty cold out yesterday.

    do you have a source for the above? Is this yes another set of computer-modeled corrected temperatures, I.e., not the actual numbers, but what the computer model says the temperature should be?

    yah, I thought so. More BS numbers from the global warming religionists.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

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    Just a data point. Yes the data changed.

    Let's tax carbon and put a lid on the dirty economic output of the country. What can go wrong? A few people lose jobs. People get much higher energy bills. That is a good regressive tax. The air actually gets dirtier because we use up the resources to deal with carbon. Reduced economic activity because of higher energy costs could mean lower tax revenues to the government from other sources, but so what? It is about fairness. Let's ignore what happened to Australia when they did it. Just another outpost for white Europeans. What the bleep do they know.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    Yeah but there was a hot summer in America this one time in 1934, particularly if you stood in the sun in central park.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    Exactly

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    Evidence it was warm in June...yeah, that is 'science' proving we are doomed and "science says" (kind of like "Simon says") we must immediately double taxes,  close all our oil, natural gas and coal plants, confiscate automobiles for bicyles, and get all our power from windmills ....

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    we must immediately double taxes,  close all our oil, natural gas and coal plants, confiscate automobiles for bicyles, and get all our power from windmills ....


    Who said that other than you?


    That swill is just the deniers' boogeyman. We didn't even sign Kyoto and look at what you're worried about.


     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

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    Just a data point. Yes the data changed.

    Let's tax carbon and put a lid on the dirty economic output of the country. What can go wrong? A few people lose jobs. People get much higher energy bills. That is a good regressive tax. The air actually gets dirtier because we use up the resources to deal with carbon. Reduced economic activity because of higher energy costs could mean lower tax revenues to the government from other sources, but so what? It is about fairness. Let's ignore what happened to Australia when they did it. Just another outpost for white Europeans. What the bleep do they know.

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    So in your dystopia, all the construction needed to build these new power generation plants doesn't produce jobs?

    The people needed to maintain these plants aren't real jobs?

    And how the heck did you arrive at "The air actually gets dirtier because we use up the resources to deal with carbon"?

    And why is it that more and more large companies are signing on to renewable energy and installing on-site equipment to reduce their energy costs?

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
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    Evidence it was warm in June...yeah, that is 'science' proving we are doomed and "science says" (kind of like "Simon says") we must immediately double taxes,  close all our oil, natural gas and coal plants, confiscate automobiles for bicyles, and get all our power from windmills ....

    [/QUOTE]

    If we are doomed, why bother?

     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to bugmenot2's comment:
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    Forget the studies. Look at the receding polar ice caps and the rising ocean levels.  What is the difference on spending on pollution controls vs. financing a war in Iraq and Afghanistan? It shouln't be a political issue at all. It is an environmental issue. When you fish in the Adirondacks in the lakes that are ruined by acid rain, is that a political issue or environmental issue? Why not twll your disappointed kid that it was man's fault and not the politicians. The economy thrives on new wars but why not pollution controls?

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    Except the ice caps are growing, and the sea levels aren't rising.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to bugmenot2's comment:
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    Forget the studies. Look at the receding polar ice caps and the rising ocean levels.  What is the difference on spending on pollution controls vs. financing a war in Iraq and Afghanistan? It shouln't be a political issue at all. It is an environmental issue. When you fish in the Adirondacks in the lakes that are ruined by acid rain, is that a political issue or environmental issue? Why not twll your disappointed kid that it was man's fault and not the politicians. The economy thrives on new wars but why not pollution controls?

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    Except the ice caps are growing, and the sea levels aren't rising.

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    Except that's the sea ice that's growing, not the land ice...... big difference.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to high-road's comment:
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

    [/QUOTE]

    Just a data point. Yes the data changed.

    Let's tax carbon and put a lid on the dirty economic output of the country. What can go wrong? A few people lose jobs. People get much higher energy bills. That is a good regressive tax. The air actually gets dirtier because we use up the resources to deal with carbon. Reduced economic activity because of higher energy costs could mean lower tax revenues to the government from other sources, but so what? It is about fairness. Let's ignore what happened to Australia when they did it. Just another outpost for white Europeans. What the bleep do they know.

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    So in your dystopia, all the construction needed to build these new power generation plants doesn't produce jobs?

    The people needed to maintain these plants aren't real jobs?

    And how the heck did you arrive at "The air actually gets dirtier because we use up the resources to deal with carbon"?

    And why is it that more and more large companies are signing on to renewable energy and installing on-site equipment to reduce their energy costs?

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    What on earth are you talking about? Large companies are signing up to renewables to lower energy costs? I'd like to see some proof.

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

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    I dunno. Pretty cold out yesterday.

    do you have a source for the above? Is this yes another set of computer-modeled corrected temperatures, I.e., not the actual numbers, but what the computer model says the temperature should be?

    yah, I thought so. More BS numbers from the global warming religionists.

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    The source is NOAA,

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6

     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was record warm, at 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F). This marks the first time that the monthly global ocean temperature anomaly was higher than 0.60°C (1.08°F) and surpasses the previous all-time record for any month by 0.05°C (0.09°F); the previous record of +0.59°C (1.06°F) was first set in June 1998 and tied in October 2003, July 2009, and just last month in May 2014. Similar to May, scattered sections across every major ocean basin were record warm. Notably, large parts of the western equatorial and northeastern Pacific Ocean and nearly all of the Indian Ocean were record warm or much warmer than average for the month. Although neither El Niño nor La Niña conditions were present across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean during June 2014, the ocean waters in that region continued to trend above average. NOAA's Climate Prediction Center estimates that there is about a 70 percent chance that El Niño conditions will develop during Northern Hemisphere summer 2014 and 80 percent chance it will develop during the fall and winter.

     

     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to bugmenot2's comment:
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    Republicans have been against protecting the environment for decades.They want cesspool rivers and air that causes illnesses , stripmining, forrests mowed down, and polluted oceans. Why? Because they want less government and less taxes. Sounds selfish to me. They need to take a trip to China and see no blue sky and wear gas masks on the streets. Look at their rivers. Of course Republicans want lower taxes but they also want higher dividends. Selfish once again. Shame on them.

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    How ironic for a leftist to bring up the example of China's pollution, since China has the kind of total Government-controlled top down economy, desired by leftists in America...So, if you want more Government, you want to be more like China!

     

     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:


    How ironic for a leftist to bring up the example of China's pollution, since China has the kind of total Government-controlled top down economy,


    That put "jobs" over everything else, like you seem to want us to do.


    desired by leftists in America...


    Stupid lie.


    So, if you want more Government, you want to be more like China!


    Very good. You caught your own straw man.






     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to hypertext's comment:
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to bugmenot2's comment:
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    Forget the studies. Look at the receding polar ice caps and the rising ocean levels.  What is the difference on spending on pollution controls vs. financing a war in Iraq and Afghanistan? It shouln't be a political issue at all. It is an environmental issue. When you fish in the Adirondacks in the lakes that are ruined by acid rain, is that a political issue or environmental issue? Why not twll your disappointed kid that it was man's fault and not the politicians. The economy thrives on new wars but why not pollution controls?

    [/QUOTE]

    Except the ice caps are growing, and the sea levels aren't rising.

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    Except that's the sea ice that's growing, not the land ice...... big difference.

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    Ice is ice.

    global warming is just a progressive bogeyman intended to scare people into conformity and subservience. 

    If it is real, there is nothing we can do about it, unless you can figure out how to shade the Sun, or something that really impacts climate.  

    But, accepting these climate change numbers bandied about by people with progressive agendas aimed at controlling you for your own good? Yah, that's not too smart, is it?

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
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    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).
    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.
    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.
    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.

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    I dunno. Pretty cold out yesterday.

    do you have a source for the above? Is this yes another set of computer-modeled corrected temperatures, I.e., not the actual numbers, but what the computer model says the temperature should be?

    yah, I thought so. More BS numbers from the global warming religionists.

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    The source is NOAA,

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6

     

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    NOAA? The same guys recently found to have cooked the books on climate date? 

    You really know how to pick a source.  These numbers have ALREADY been found to be BS, yet here you are, posting them again.

    http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/" rel="nofollow">http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/

     

     
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    Re: Climate change? What climate change?

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to hypertext's comment:
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    Forget the studies. Look at the receding polar ice caps and the rising ocean levels.  What is the difference on spending on pollution controls vs. financing a war in Iraq and Afghanistan? It shouln't be a political issue at all. It is an environmental issue. When you fish in the Adirondacks in the lakes that are ruined by acid rain, is that a political issue or environmental issue? Why not twll your disappointed kid that it was man's fault and not the politicians. The economy thrives on new wars but why not pollution controls?

    [/QUOTE]

    Except the ice caps are growing, and the sea levels aren't rising.

    [/QUOTE]

    Except that's the sea ice that's growing, not the land ice...... big difference.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ice is ice.

    global warming is just a progressive bogeyman intended to scare people into conformity and subservience. 

    If it is real, there is nothing we can do about it, unless you can figure out how to shade the Sun, or something that really impacts climate.  

    But, accepting these climate change numbers bandied about by people with progressive agendas aimed at controlling you for your own good? Yah, that's not too smart, is it?

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    You're wrong. Ice is not always ice. Sea ice is one thing, land ice is another. You're really uneducated. Stupid comes to mind.

     

     
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