Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million

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    Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million

    Wealth redistribution takes many forms.

    The federal government AGAIN forcing consumers to subsidize low wage earners.
    Hmm.. I wonder what people will benefit from this?
     
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    The cost of cable is going to skyrocket
    Posted by BobinVa


    Wait.  Do you actually think the price of cable has any relation to marginal cost? 

     
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    This is Exhibit A , an example of the Obama Administration using the power of regulations to impose its leftist agenda.
    Posted by BobinVa



    Exhibit A?  So it's the first example?



    You're pretty naive.  Since the rise of administrative agencies, can you point to a President who has not used regulations to impose what he views as his party's agenda?
     
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    Since the "paying" users of this private commercial service will be paying more for this subsidy.. this appears to be a tax..

     
     
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    No one is forcing you to use comcast. There are alternatives.
     
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    This is a joke, right? 

    Please tell me that we're not going to be giving rates for cable television and internet based on your income (or lack of income).
     
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    In Response to Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million:
    No one is forcing you to use comcast. There are alternatives.
    Posted by Bill.the.Cat

    For most its DSL or Comcast Braodband.  Now if you are in a Verizon FIOS service area and in a Comcast service area you do have options, and I'd go FIOS.

     
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    You ignore the point.. but I can completely understand why you would NOT want to discuss how the Obama administration is forcing a private industry to charge some customers more in order to subsidize a selected few (2.5 MILLION few).  I imagine the middle class will be hit the hardest,

    Still trying to guess who will benefit.. hmmmmm
     
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    In Response to Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million:
    Still trying to guess who will benefit.. hmmmmm
    Posted by RevWright


    "Make available to 2.5 million low income households: high-speed Internet access for less than $10 per month; personal computer, netbooks or other equipment for less than $150; and an array of digital literacy opportunities."


    ummmm, low income housholds.....duh
     
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    You ignore the point.. but I can completely understand why you would NOT want to discuss how the Obama administration is forcing a private industry to charge some customers more in order to subsidize a selected few (2.5 MILLION few). 
    Posted by RevWright


    We have laws against monopoly specifically because it leads to free market failure: Kills competition, driving up prices to otherwise unsustainable levels, hurting everyone...but hurting most the poor people who cannot afford the monopolist's unrealistic prices.

    Obama didn't issue an executive decree that Comcast shall subsidize them.  Subsidization was made a condition for approving a merger that plays into Comcast's already formidable monopoly power.

    Nobody was forcing Comcast to merge.

    Perhaps the merger was questoinable under existing anti-trust law?    That Comcast agrees indicates they expect the deal to still be quite profitable.




    Turning to bob - in light of that, why exactly are prices going to "skyrocket"? 



     
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    No one is forcing you to use comcast. There are alternatives.
    Posted by Bill.the.Cat


    DSL?  Only useful if you don't need much more bandwith than an old-school dialup modem.  DSL is pretty slow compared to Cable.  If all you want to do is check email and read the NYT, it is an option.



    As for cable, there are almost never options.  Even if you're in an area that is servced by RCN and Comcast, you still need to have an existing hookup in your apt/house. 

    Otherwise you have to pay them a huge amount to run a line into your house....and that is more or less the equivalent of not having an alternative.  Sort of like middle class people wouldn't have an alternative to public transportation if the only other available option was private chartered helicopter flights.


    FIOS?  I've lived in places near Boston for the last decade and not once have I found one that I could actually get it. 
     
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    Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million

    Wonder what other new areas redistribution will spread into.. comrades.

    Let me see..
    food  check
    housing  check
    mortgages  check
    education  check
    utilities  check
    insurance  check
    health care  check
    entertainment  check

    Hail the motherland.
     
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    In Response to Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million:
    More government extortion. It's cheaper to give in the demands of our leftwing government than it is to go to court and contest their behavior. What exactly is the anti-trust problem with Comcast buying a content company like Universal? They aren't buying another cable company and there are certainly alot of competitors to Universal and NBC. Extortion - pure and simple, that is what it is. But government routinely gets away with criminal behavior they would take others to court for.
    Posted by Newtster

    Extortion is such a mean spirited word; in the environmental permitting world its called mitigation, in the legal world it's know as a negotiated settlement, in the real world its called extortion.  Companies become complicit in this, because they accept it and even call it the cost of doing business.  These are hidden inflationary costs that are always passed on to others to pay.

     
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    Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million

    Satellite will be the way to go for most applications.

    Internet access will soon be one of those aspects of modern life that are increasingly essential.  Distance learning for poor or rural children being only one direct benefit, along with health care monitoring.  Perhaps instead of expanding high-speed access, they could expand dial-up more broadly and to rural areas; dial-up should be free with any phone line, anyway.

    If Rush is against it, then it's probably the right thing to do.  His credibility is at the bottom of the ocean
     
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    What exactly is the anti-trust problem with Comcast buying a content company like Universal?
    Posted by Newtster


    Depends.  The fear may be that it would allow what has been deemed the unfair use of monopoly power over one product to destroy competetition in a related field.

    Take the browser wars from the early 90s as an example.  They went after Microsoft in part because it programmed Windows to crash when Netscape was loaded.  This was use of Microsoft's monopoly power in the operating system market to kill competitoin in the browser market. 

    But this was not simply to benefit Internet Explorer.

    Much more importantly, by killing netscape, Microsoft eliminated competition in the operating system market.   Things might well have been different.  Browsers  be programmed such that no matter what operating system the browser was running on, applications could be run directly through the browser's APIs. 

    Microsoft didn't like that, because if the technology was developed, you could put netscape on a mac and then run programs through netscape that might otherwise be windows-only, so long as they were programmed using Netscape APIs and not Windows APIs.   Then, programmers would have no need of cutting deals with microsoft - they'd just program to the browser's APIs.

    That, in turn, would completely destroy Microsoft's stranglehold - which is the sunk costs of switching away from Windows.

    Big oversimplification, but it's an example. 



    I don't know enough about current anti-trust law or the particular deal with say specifically what the anti-trust concern is.  Of course, that doesn't mean there wasn't one. 



    But here's where logic comes into play: If it was complete BS, Comcast would know it - they have a lot of antitrust lawyers.  So they would just go ahead with the deal and win the resulting suit.  

    Instead, they cut the deal.  Not only because it wouldn'[t make a dent in profits, but likely because there may have been some valid antitrust concerns.
     
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    Re: Condition of Comcast-NBC merger: "Digital Welfare", $10 monthly high-speed access to 2.5 million

    There's a consumer advocacy risk in combining a "producer of content" with a "deliverer of content".  What if the new NBC decided that it would not broadcast on competing cable systems - and more - anything produced at or owned by Universal Studios.  That's a lot of content being throttled for the sake of cable subscriptions.
     
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