Congrats to Obama and his Supporters

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    I am reading this posts is disbelief.

    George W Bush, ripped civil liberties away from you, his policies helped self destruct wall street for the second time in 20 years almost causing a depression. The massive deregulation and abuse of power and total your with me or without me attitude has made us the most hated Nation in the world.

    The Goverment can now wire tap you whenever they want. The imprisioned citizens for no reason it goes on and on. He started two wars one without true cause didn't finish them and sent kids off to war without the proper equipment and a stratagy in which to fail.

    Add a $10 Trillion in debt and the fact that he never really got a economy going it was a mask that came in a Real Estate Market that burst.

    I am sorry but he will go down as the worst President in history.

     
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    John McCain was being tortured as an American POW in his 20s while Obama was seeking out Marxist ideas. I don't know what else to say...
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    And McCain being tortured as a POW qualifies him more to be POTUS, than Obama reading up on the works of Karl Marx? Yeah, right...

     
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    [Quote]Sad, so sad. Just goes to show that the people who want a free ride outnumber people who actually want to EARN what they get.[/Quote]

    You can earn all you want, but the more you make, the more you need to pay in taxes! No more ultra rich people getting a tax break, they don't need it! I completely and utterly respect people that work hard to earn their money, but the fact remains that a disproportionate number of people hold most of the wealth in this country, and for the ones that don't, we're tired of seeing millionaires bitching about their taxes being raised. Sell one of your cars and your houses and shut the f"*k up!
     
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    [Quote]I'm with you, Bob, on all points.

    Congratulations to the Obama campaign and his supporters.

    May this country still be as great in 4 years when we can work again to improve her and make sure she has the tools in place to keep her as strong as she is now.

    For those of you who believe it is Bush's economic policies that have led to this recession, I leave you these 2 points:
    1. In his interview with David Letterman in mid-September, former President Bill Clinton admitted that it was policies set in place in the mid-90's(during HIS administration) that led to the crisis.
    2. Joe Biden was amoung those who voted FOR the banking DE-regulation bill that led to his crisis in 1999-2 years before Bush took office. In fact, before he even declared his intention to run for Office.

    The 9/11 attacks happened 9 months after Bush took office. Even the Democrat controlled congress admitted it was not due to any lack of vigilance of his administrative team that led to the attacks, as they had been in the planning stages for years. We have not had a repeated event on US soil for 7 years. Can you not admit that Bush has kept this country safe from terrorists? Regardless of how you may or may not feel about the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan?

    I sincerely hope that President-elect Obama follows through on his promise to work with the elected officials on BOTH sides of the aisle to lead this country. I also sincerely hope that Vice President-elect Biden can also, although neither has shown a proficiency for this in their past work in the US Congress. Please note: that is not bashing-that is FACT, which can be verified by checking their Congressional records and any sponsored/co-sponsored legislation.

    I do not believe that President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents of America. I believe that one day the world will realise that he led America through an unprecedented period with honor and a great amount of personal courage. For those of you who believe he doesn't care about our troops or those who are affected by his policies, I challenge you to look at a picture of him 8 years ago when he took office, and a picture of him today. That is not the face of a man with no thought to the lives of those he leads.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.[/Quote]

    RachelJ, I can't believe that there are people that still think the way you do about Bush. Do you really think that his policies have prevented more attacks since 9/11? If Bush is such a defender of the homeland, why did we get attacked under his watch? Can you explain that? He was briefed in Aug 01 that there was terrorist 'chatter' pointing to some iminent attack. If he is so great, why couldn't he stop it? We haven't been attacked because Al Queda has chosen not to attack. Remember, the 9/11 plot was hatched sometime in 1998. It took 3 years for them to practice and then execute. You need to get over this mixed up notion that Bush's aggressiveness has kept us safe. It is foolish.
     
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    [Quote][Quote]
    Here is a new idea for you Socialists .
    Get a job and make your OWN money.
    or just sitt on your fat @$$ and take mine. the later is what you choose.

    [/Quote]



    I am not a Socialist, have a job, make my OWN money, and don't just sitt on my (non) fat @$$. But can I still take your money? LOL.

    [/Quote] You are a moron. Obama is not a socialist, he is simply trying to make things more fair for everyone. Let me ask you something, do you (or your household) make more than $200K? If you don't, Obama's tax plan is going to help you, not harm you. Do your homework.

     
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    You are a moron. Obama is not a socialist, he is simply trying to make things more fair for everyone. Let me ask you something, do you (or your household) make more than $200K? If you don't, Obama's tax plan is going to help you, not harm you. Do your homework.[/Quote]


    emcee414:
    You don't get the tone of my post, do you? I was being sarcastic to the previous poster, who posted such nonsense.
    And to your comments and question: I know Obama is NOT a socialist, I've done my homework (which is why I voted for Obama/Biden), and my household does not make over $200K.

     
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    We need to FIX this Country, FIX IT, and OBAMA is the man that is going to FIX IT..... FIX IT, FIX IT.....Bush broke America, and it needed some Fixing and now is going to get FIXED ....FIX IT.
     
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    Dude it was a half joke, you need to watch SNL :>)

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/38477/saturday-night-live-update-thursday-fix-it-109

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/40678/saturday-night-live-update-freds-mapfix-it#s-p1-st-i4
     
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    We must all look at the brighter side of things, and remember that there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

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    TRAIN!!!

    I don't wish ill of the Obama administration. I just expect little of it.
    Deval Patrick ran his campaign just like Obama's and none of the campaign promises have materialized.

    Once the administration is in place, I expect the tax increases will be put through quickly. Then the question will be which of the campaign promises they will follow through on.

    Obama's campaign promises of financing tax cuts for some by tax increases for others strikes me as deeply flawed. Tax rates should be applied equally. We'll never see it now. People used to regard having the government steal money from someone else and give it to you as dishonorable. Not any more.

    Now the politicians know they can buy the larger electorate by abusing the few. Presuming of course that the tax cuts don't get dropped themselves.

     
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    I am reading this posts is disbelief.

    George W Bush, ripped civil liberties away from you, his policies helped self destruct wall street for the second time in 20 years almost causing a depression. The massive deregulation and abuse of power and total your with me or without me attitude has made us the most hated Nation in the world.

    The Goverment can now wire tap you whenever they want. The imprisioned citizens for no reason it goes on and on. He started two wars one without true cause didn't finish them and sent kids off to war without the proper equipment and a stratagy in which to fail.

    Add a $10 Trillion in debt and the fact that he never really got a economy going it was a mask that came in a Real Estate Market that burst.

    I am sorry but he will go down as the worst President in history.

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    Exactly which civil liberties did Bush rip from us?
    Which policies did Bush put in place that helped self destruct wall street?

    I don't expect you to be able to answer these with actual facts btw. You are spouting left wing talking points that you heard from someone else who didn't know what they were talking about. Get a clue.
    Was Bush a good president? Nope, not by a long shot. But he didn't do what you are saying he did. It's bullshite rhetoric.
     
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    You are a moron. Obama is not a socialist, he is simply trying to make things more fair for everyone. Let me ask you something, do you (or your household) make more than $200K? If you don't, Obama's tax plan is going to help you, not harm you. Do your homework.[/Quote]
    emcee414:
    You don't get the tone of my post, do you? I was being sarcastic to the previous poster, who posted such nonsense.
    And to your comments and question: I know Obama is NOT a socialist, I've done my homework (which is why I voted for Obama/Biden), and my household does not make over $200K.
    [/Quote]

    Sorry, sir/ma'am. Hard to tell sometimes who's being serious. Either way, it's going to be a tough 4 years ahead, but I remain optimistic!

     
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    So let me get your argument straight. Bush took office in January 2001; was briefed in AUGUST of 2001 of an imminent attack(no where or when, just imminent), 8 months after taking office. Have I got it right so far? OK-so, in 8 months his administration team was supposed to do what the previous administration HAD NOT DONE IN 3 YEARS? Why, exactly, is that a logical argument? I understand people want to believe we are not safer. That's fine. You have a right to your belief as an American citizen-as do I. Do I believe that policies put in place post-9/11 have contributed to the prevention of subsequent attacks? Absolutely. Do you honestly believe Al Queada suddenly decided the really didn't hate us and didn't want to destroy our very way of life? That seems a little foolish to me. Doesn't it seem a little more logical that increased focus on the activities of a terrorist organization led to more interruption of said organizations plans?
    IF President Bush had taken that information and decided to try to put America on "red alert", at that time, in that environment, do you think ANYONE-other than current or former military personnel-would have taken him seriously? If you are honest with yourself, can you really say that, and mean it?
    I am curious, if America(God forbid) gets attacked again on her home soil in 2009, will it be Obama's policies that caused the attack? Or failed to protect us? You cannot have one without the other. Either it is the fault of the previous administration every time, or it is the fault of the current. You can't change the blame game to suit your candidate-not and expect to be taken seriously by your political opposites.[/Quote]



    In 1996 President Bill Clinton proposed a Act like the Patriot Act to prevent against such acts because he knew they were coming. The Legislation Proposed was torn down by the Sentate and House who were Republicans. They said it was "Fantasy Land". No such attacks would happen. this Legislation was due infact that Clinton new things where happening. He was the President when the first guy tried blowing up the WTC. Bush was made well aware of what was going on in transition and in August 01. Clinton also tried to kill Bin Laden with a missle strike which he has critized deeply for in 1998.

    But hey it was all his fault.

    The bill that got passed was watered down big time. Those are the facts feel free to look them up.
     
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    [Quote][Quote]
    I am reading this posts is disbelief.

    George W Bush, ripped civil liberties away from you, his policies helped self destruct wall street for the second time in 20 years almost causing a depression. The massive deregulation and abuse of power and total your with me or without me attitude has made us the most hated Nation in the world.

    The Goverment can now wire tap you whenever they want. The imprisioned citizens for no reason it goes on and on. He started two wars one without true cause didn't finish them and sent kids off to war without the proper equipment and a stratagy in which to fail.

    Add a $10 Trillion in debt and the fact that he never really got a economy going it was a mask that came in a Real Estate Market that burst.

    I am sorry but he will go down as the worst President in history.
    [/Quote]

    Exactly which civil liberties did Bush rip from us?
    Which policies did Bush put in place that helped self destruct wall street?

    I don't expect you to be able to answer these with actual facts btw. You are spouting left wing talking points that you heard from someone else who didn't know what they were talking about. Get a clue.
    Was Bush a good president? Nope, not by a long shot. But he didn't do what you are saying he did. It's bullshite rhetoric.[/Quote]


    Lets start from the top. W stole the 200 Election from Al Gore. In a recount it was shown he lost. His brother and right wing judge gave him a election he did not win. Later on in 2004 Dead people voted for him in Ohio and several counties and provisionary voyes in Democtratic communities never got counted. Ballets were found months later which in Florida were found in a swamp and in Ohio in trash.

    Wal Street ~ Bush allowed the SEC to lossen the rules be de regulating reporting. In 2003 - thru 5 they were so lax they didnt even catch the mess Goldman Sachs and Bear Stearns were in. In fact, the Bill, Clinton signed was not meant to produce these exotic mortgages. They were to provide a equal balance for minorities. Bush used this bill to Bush the mortgage business (Frannie and Fredie) to extend credit it should not have. He was in fact desperate to kick start economy. So they lowered rates to stupid levels and people spent and spent and spent. If Bush and his group did not look at 125% LTV Loans as a sign of trouble what would of pushed the alarm? It was a Bill that Clinton and a Right Wing Congress passed and a Bill Bush used to push a economy in a tail spin because of 9/11.

    The War against Iraq, it is a fact that they knew there were no WMD, and Bush used his popularity and power to finish his fathers business. That war was for no reason and cost us $600 Billion.

    You want to know what policies cost us, lowering tax's while at War. That put this Country into debt to the tone of $10 Trillion. You can not lower tax's during war time when you need more money.

    Oil, when OPEC did this stuff in 90's Bill CLinton flooded the market with 500,000 barrels of oil droping the demand over night. What did Bush do to save us the costs that crippled the economy? The cost of everything went up because of fuel.

    How about Bush and chenney tourturing people?

    The Patriot Act, Clinton's act never went this deep. You should read that some time. They can listen to everything you do now which was not the case before. You can be arrested and detained for no reason now. Wire taps, phone taps, wire taps, you cant even take $2000K in cash out of a bank without a bank having to notify the government.

    Bush, has gone into 750 Bills and used his executive privlidge to change wording. That is more then all 42 other Presidents Combined. The US Attorneys Office wants to review all these documents when he leaves office.

    His actions may lead to prosecution when he leaves office.

    This stuff is not company line and heres a fact, in 2000 I mistakenly voted for the guy. Not in 04. He was a bad President and although not everything the last 8 years were his fault, some very much were. Some were preventable. He had a chance to stop things that were going bad and never did.

     
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    [Quote]I'm with you, Bob, on all points.

    Congratulations to the Obama campaign and his supporters.

    May this country still be as great in 4 years when we can work again to improve her and make sure she has the tools in place to keep her as strong as she is now.

    For those of you who believe it is Bush's economic policies that have led to this recession, I leave you these 2 points:
    1. In his interview with David Letterman in mid-September, former President Bill Clinton admitted that it was policies set in place in the mid-90's(during HIS administration) that led to the crisis.
    2. Joe Biden was amoung those who voted FOR the banking DE-regulation bill that led to his crisis in 1999-2 years before Bush took office. In fact, before he even declared his intention to run for Office.

    The 9/11 attacks happened 9 months after Bush took office. Even the Democrat controlled congress admitted it was not due to any lack of vigilance of his administrative team that led to the attacks, as they had been in the planning stages for years. We have not had a repeated event on US soil for 7 years. Can you not admit that Bush has kept this country safe from terrorists? Regardless of how you may or may not feel about the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan?

    I sincerely hope that President-elect Obama follows through on his promise to work with the elected officials on BOTH sides of the aisle to lead this country. I also sincerely hope that Vice President-elect Biden can also, although neither has shown a proficiency for this in their past work in the US Congress. Please note: that is not bashing-that is FACT, which can be verified by checking their Congressional records and any sponsored/co-sponsored legislation.

    I do not believe that President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents of America. I believe that one day the world will realise that he led America through an unprecedented period with honor and a great amount of personal courage. For those of you who believe he doesn't care about our troops or those who are affected by his policies, I challenge you to look at a picture of him 8 years ago when he took office, and a picture of him today. That is not the face of a man with no thought to the lives of those he leads.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.[/Quote]

    I just have one question. If he cared so much how come they did not have the necessary equipment? Parents had to send bullet proof vests and the Hummers did not have the proper plates to protect them.

    Parents sent care packages for under supplied troops.

    I disagree with you on so many levels. He was clueless, Countries dont go to war and lower tax's.

    Biden voted for it which is to bad, McCain also stumped about the bail out saying how bad it was but voted for it too . . . . .
     
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