Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 11:38 AM EDT
- UserName99
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They were cleaning up the mess in London yesterday -- replacing the windows at the Ritz, fixing the wooden façade at Fortnum & Mason and attending to a vandalized Trafalgar Square in the wake of Saturday's protests -- and riots -- by trade unionists and anarchists.
Think it can't happen here? Think again.
The British press reports that up to half a million people took part in the demonstrations, 200 were arrested and more than 160 injured -- including 84 police officers, 11 of whom had to be hospitalized.
Why? Because Prime Minister David Cameron announced a $130 billion cut in public spending and this is how the infantile left reacts when its I've-got-mine-Jack gravy train is threatened.
Expect more of this in the coming months and years, as countries finally face up to the fact that the money has run out and that tough choices must be made -- not just nickel-and-dime decisions about which programs to cut but the harder issues of whether certain programs should even exist.
We've already seen it, on a smaller scale, in Wisconsin, during the recent battle over Gov. Scott Walker's plan to rein in the public-employee unions. In Madison, the capitol was occupied by hordes of protesters and the lives of some Republican state legislators were threatened.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/barbarians_within_Hgv74LXgQnxXQ3MEkJXMIO
Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 11:39 AM EDT
Yes
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posted at 8/9/2011 11:48 AM EDT
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Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 12:30 PM EDT
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The authorities are starting to take some tougher measures against the 'protesters'....rubber bullets, clubbings, etc.
When does the Obama Doctrine kick in? Shouldn't we be arming the protesters or bombing England for this kind of brutality against their own people?
Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 1:00 PM EDT
Yes.
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:08 PM EDT
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A democrat administration beating the pus out of democrats at the Democratic National Convention. Chicago, 1968
There was unity then
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:08 PM EDT
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let them eat cake
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:12 PM EDT
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I hope there is rioting.. my flat screen is starting to fade.
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:13 PM EDT
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I sure hope so...
...when it comes to political protests, I'm a traditionalist at-heart.
(within respectable limits of debauchery, that is.)
But I know which side I'll be on.
Do you...?
Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 1:29 PM EDT
I'll be on the side that isn't acting like an animal. Rioting is never the right answer.
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:31 PM EDT
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Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 1:47 PM EDT
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I sure hope so... ...when it comes to political protests, I'm a traditionalist at-heart. (within respectable limits of debauchery, that is.) But I know which side I'll be on. Do you...?
Posted by MattyScornD
I'll be on the side of the small business man protecting his store front with a shot gun.
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posted at 8/9/2011 1:49 PM EDT
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Rioting is never the right answer.
Posted by WhichOnesPink
Maybe not...but it sure gets peoples' attention in a big hurry. (sometimes, as in egypt's case, it gets regime change...)
In any case, this isn't really about short-term economics; it's about long-term, systemic disgruntlement that just needed a spark to set the streets on fire.
And I'll be clear here: I don't agree with what they're doing nor why they (supposedly) are doing it. But that's not the same as saying these things sometimes need to happen. History has proven repeatedly that once a society becomes too imbalanced, something has to give. In Syria, they're dying by hundreds every day to make precisely that point.
Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 1:58 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Maybe not...but it sure gets peoples' attention in a big hurry. (sometimes, as in egypt's case, it gets regime change...) In any case, this isn't really about short-term economics; it's about long-term, systemic disgruntlement that just needed a spark to set the streets on fire. And I'll be clear here: I don't agree with what they're doing nor why they (supposedly) are doing it. But that's not the same as saying these things sometimes need to happen. History has proven repeatedly that once a society becomes too imbalanced, something has to give. In Syria, they're dying by hundreds every day to make precisely that point.
Posted by MattyScornD
Killing is a way to get peoples attention too...should we do that?
An imbalanced society is nothing to lose ones life over. Jesus christ....people need to get some perspective.
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posted at 8/9/2011 2:05 PM EDT
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Verizon Union strikers sabotaging cable boxes.
Posted by chiefhowie
Which will happen first in this country?
The middle class will riot when the government makes dumb decisions with their money, raises taxes, and act like children when fighting with the other party?
Or.......
The "entitlement" generation will rise-up and take to the streets when the government takes away the "teet" of free money?
Psst.....I'll give you a hint, one of these scenarios has already happened, and the middle class didn't riot........
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posted at 8/9/2011 2:08 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Killing is a way to get peoples attention too...should we do that? An imbalanced society is nothing to lose ones life over. Jesus christ....people need to get some perspective.
Posted by WhichOnesPink
Such is human nature, i.e., the "animal" within us all.
People have died or been killed for much, much less.
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posted at 8/9/2011 2:44 PM EDT
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I sure hope so... ...when it comes to political protests, I'm a traditionalist at-heart. (within respectable limits of debauchery, that is.) But I know which side I'll be on. Do you...?
Posted by MattyScornD
Yes, I do. You will be on the side of the looters and freeloaders, burning cars and smashing windows, upset because the expectation will shift to you making your own way through life.
Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending?
posted at 8/9/2011 2:45 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Such is human nature, i.e., the "animal" within us all. People have died or been killed for much, much less.
Posted by MattyScornD
And that makes it right? THAT is your justification? That other people have died for less. Alrighty then.
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posted at 8/9/2011 3:04 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Which will happen first in this country? The middle class will riot when the government makes dumb decisions with their money, raises taxes, and act like children when fighting with the other party? Or....... The "entitlement" generation will rise-up and take to the streets when the government takes away the "teet" of free money? Psst.....I'll give you a hint, one of these scenarios has already happened, and the middle class didn't riot........
Posted by doozy-day
Ding!
Great hint
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posted at 8/9/2011 3:55 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Yes, I do. You will be on the side of the looters and freeloaders, burning cars and smashing windows, upset because the expectation will shift to you making your own way through life.
Posted by skeeter20
Heh. I make my "own way through life" just fine, thanks... good job, nice house, hot wife... 'tis true, I have few real needs or wants.
That I've worked for it is beside the point. Genuine Empathy is just the bare minimum in regard for my own good fortune.
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posted at 8/9/2011 4:02 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : And that makes it right? THAT is your justification? That other people have died for less. Alrighty then.
Posted by WhichOnesPink
It's as good a justification as any for civil unrest on this scale.
Would I prefer they aired their grievances non-violently? Of course.
But why should I be surprised or judgmental when people get angry (very angry) because they feel their good faith arguments are being roundly ignored by the ruling classes...??
As a citizen of a nation formed out of rebellion, who am I to judge??
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posted at 8/9/2011 4:12 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : It's as good a justification as any for civil unrest on this scale. Would I prefer they aired their grievances non-violently? Of course. But why should I be surprised or judgmental when people get angry (very angry) because they feel their good faith arguments are being roundly ignored by the ruling classes...?? As a citizen of a nation formed out of rebellion, who am I to judge??
Posted by MattyScornD
HAHAHAHA...you judge on BDC all the time. NOW we're supposed to believe your above that. Jesus christ.....
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posted at 8/9/2011 4:26 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : It's as good a justification as any for civil unrest on this scale. Would I prefer they aired their grievances non-violently? Of course. But why should I be surprised or judgmental when people get angry (very angry) because they feel their good faith arguments are being roundly ignored by the ruling classes...?? As a citizen of a nation formed out of rebellion, who am I to judge??
Posted by MattyScornD
So, just keep giving handouts to the layabouts? That's your cause for rebellion, blood in the streets? You are a sick dude.
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posted at 8/9/2011 4:30 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Could London style riots happen here if we cut too much spending? : Heh. I make my "own way through life" just fine, thanks... good job, nice house, hot wife... 'tis true, I have few real needs or wants. That I've worked for it is beside the point. Genuine Empathy is just the bare minimum in regard for my own good fortune.
Posted by MattyScornD
That's not empathy you are feeling. what you are feeling is the emptiness of immorality cause by caused by your unwillingness to grasp the wrong being done in London.
