Crony capitalism infects Washington

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    Crony capitalism infects Washington

    If you judged by how Barack Obama spends his time, you’d think a president’s primary duties are to hobnob with the rich at $32,800-a-plate fund-raisers, and play golf.


    During his presidency, “we have seen a rapid concentration of wealth and depressed conditions for the middle class,” said Mr. Kotkin, who teaches at Chapman College. “The stimulus, with its emphasis on public sector jobs, did little for Main Street. And under the banner of environmentalism, green cronyism has helped fatten the bank accounts of investment bankers and tech moguls at great public expense.”


    Obamacare has forced millions to pay more for health insurance and cost taxpayers billions. But it’s been a bonanza for Obama “bundlers,” Mr. Schweizer said.


    “Renewable” energy firms, which produce little energy at exorbitant cost, profit immensely from federal subsidies.


    When you have friends in Washington who’ll write you a check from the taxpayers or sandbag your competitors, it’s easier to make money.


    But when businessmen focus more on greasing the palms of politicians than on pleasing consumers, innovation is stifled, prices rise, employment falls, the economy stops growing.


    Only the free enterprise system has ever produced wealth for ordinary people. All government need do to restore prosperity is provide a level playing field, with taxes and regulations that are simple, clear, fair and stable.


    But it’s when things are complex and chaotic that politicians get rich.


    Opposition to crony capitalism has come mostly from the Tea Party, joined by a few lonely voices on the left. For most Republicans and nearly all Democrats, it’s business as usual.


    Twice before, when the economy served the vast majority so poorly, “a political prairie fire” was ignited, Mr. Kotkin said. It could happen again, soon, “if the corrupt bargain between the oligarchs and the political class goes unbroken.”


     


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    Re: Crony capitalism infects Washington

    Khan was a lot cooler than President Obama let me tell you wut.

     

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    Star Trek somehow assumed that Star Fleet captains would have the same bad hairpieces as in the 20th century...

     
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    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.


    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?


    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.

     
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    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...




    You can thank the 5 right wing members of the SCOTUS ie money equals free speech

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...




    Obama just wants to buy a bigger bullhorn ... suddenly you have a problem with that?

     
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    In response to 8101956's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

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    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...




    You can thank the 5 right wing members of the SCOTUS ie money equals free speech




    You can thank liberalism, which has put so much power in DC bureaucracy that business must hire lobbyists and lawyers to deal with their "partners", the Nanny Regulatory State...crony capitalists play ball in DC, instead of creating better products and services for people...

    No longer is selling the best product or service, important,  but getting the best regulatory treatment... many big corporations are already hedging their bets by contributing to the Clinton slush fund , known as the "Clinton Foundation"...

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to 8101956's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...




    You can thank the 5 right wing members of the SCOTUS ie money equals free speech




    You can thank liberalism, which has put so much power in DC bureaucracy that business must hire lobbyists and lawyers to deal with their "partners", the Nanny Regulatory State...crony capitalists play ball in DC, instead of creating better products and services for people...

    No longer is selling the best product or service, important,  but getting the best regulatory treatment... many big corporations are already hedging their bets by contributing to the Clinton slush fund , known as the "Clinton Foundation"...




    Heh, heh, heh ... yep, lobbyists and hyper-donors magically spring up out of thin air whenever the 'libruls' hold a majority and die off when the wingnuts assume the reigns.

    Wingnuts never deal with such people ... they're as pure as the driven snow ... CLC keeps telling us that.

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

     
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    In response to 8101956's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.

     

    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?

     

    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.



    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......

    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...




    You can thank the 5 right wing members of the SCOTUS ie money equals free speech




    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?

    It makes no logical sense.

    Unless....the whole Democrat campaign finance reform push  is just a dirty partisan effort to muzzle the opposition...the 200 year old precious First Amendment legacy we have inherited,  is less important to liberals than winning their elections and keeping power.

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:


    In response to 8101956's comment:


    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:


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    Obama isn't looking for campaign contributions anymore.  So he his palms have need for greasing.


     


    But why would a policy maker want to socialize with people who are impacted by the policies?  Could it be that he is seeking input?


     


    If he meets with them - then it's crony capitalism.  But if he doesn't meet with them - then he's out of touch.




    Obama is not fundraising any more? Wow., you dont pay much attention.......


    Per the WaPost, Obama had done 23 fundraisers in 2014 as of May 22.....many more since then, and 2 upcoming in Texas...That is about all he does, jetting around the country to meet his wealthy crony capitalist campaign contributors. Getting untold millions in contributions from the 1% , while making speeches decrying the influence of the 1%...





    You can thank the 5 right wing members of the SCOTUS ie money equals free speech





    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?


    It makes no logical sense.


    Unless....the whole Democrat campaign finance reform push  is just a dirty partisan effort to muzzle the opposition...the 200 year old precious First Amendment legacy we have inherited,  is less important to liberals than winning their elections and keeping power.





    Again ... if money equals free speech then why do you have a problem with Obama exercising his free speech?


    Hey spanky, you won the money-in-politics battles in SCotUS which changed the political landscape ... now you're complaining you don't like the new landscape.


    Why are you suddenly so OCD about people exercising their rights ... especially given the fact that you pushed for these new rules?


    Geepers, there's no pleasing you wingnuts ....

     
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    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?



    Weren't you saying it wasn't hypocrisy for red state Rs to simultaneously lambast the stimulus and stick their hand out for stimulus funding? That they'd be stupid not to so it's OK?

     

     

    I know you'd prefer Ds to fall on their swords and never appear again, but....   

    The Supreme Court  and the mean Republicans made Obama attend big money fundraisers ....sound familiar? Kinda like "Bush did it".

    So, since Dems have to fundraise, I guess you do agree that free speech rights include the right to contribute to campaigns....but, again, only GOP big money is "corrupt".

    You want to turn free speech over to Federal Election Commission "campaign finance regulators"; the same ones who found leftwing moonbat Michael Moore's antiBush movie "Farenheight 9/11" not subject to campaign  restrictions as an  "electioneering communication",  but censored conservative Citizens Uniteds "Hillary: The Movie". Yessirre, those regulators are fair and unbiased...they would take good care of the First Amendment....

     
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    Khan was a lot cooler than President Obama let me tell you wut.

     

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    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?



    Weren't you saying it wasn't hypocrisy for red state Rs to simultaneously lambast the stimulus and stick their hand out for stimulus funding? That they'd be stupid not to so it's OK?

     

     

    I know you'd prefer Ds to fall on their swords and never appear again, but....   

    The Supreme Court  and the mean Republicans made Obama attend big money fundraisers ....sound familiar? Kinda like "Bush did it".

    So, since Dems have to fundraise, I guess you do agree that free speech rights include the right to contribute to campaigns....but, again, only GOP big money is "corrupt".

    You want to turn free speech over to Federal Election Commission "campaign finance regulators"; the same ones who found leftwing moonbat Michael Moore's antiBush movie "Farenheight 9/11" not subject to campaign  restrictions as an  "electioneering communication",  but censored conservative Citizens Uniteds "Hillary: The Movie". Yessirre, those regulators are fair and unbiased...they would take good care of the First Amendment....




    Hey dipstick, argue reality not your "we need to tilt the field" baloney.

    The fact is that the Dems want as much money out of politics as possible.

    The wingnuts want as much money in politics as possible ... (as long as it's only for their side).

    The issue went to the USSC and you won. The political landscaped changed and 'money = speech"

    But now you don't like the fact that the Dems are allowed to play on the same new filed. You want them held at a disadvantage. You want them to play by their USSC legal briefs, not by the way the USSC ruled or the new legal definitions they created.

    For you, wingnuts asking for gov't money from a bill they outright opposed and was passed by the Dems is not hypocrisy.

    But the Dems playing by the same, new legal landscape created by USSC is somehow unfair.

    Ridiculous.

     
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    In response to high-road's comment:


    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:


    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:


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    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?




    Weren't you saying it wasn't hypocrisy for red state Rs to simultaneously lambast the stimulus and stick their hand out for stimulus funding? That they'd be stupid not to so it's OK?


     


     


    I know you'd prefer Ds to fall on their swords and never appear again, but....   



    The Supreme Court  and the mean Republicans made Obama attend big money fundraisers ....sound familiar? Kinda like "Bush did it".


    So, since Dems have to fundraise, I guess you do agree that free speech rights include the right to contribute to campaigns....but, again, only GOP big money is "corrupt".


    You want to turn free speech over to Federal Election Commission "campaign finance regulators"; the same ones who found leftwing moonbat Michael Moore's antiBush movie "Farenheight 9/11" not subject to campaign  restrictions as an  "electioneering communication",  but censored conservative Citizens Uniteds "Hillary: The Movie". Yessirre, those regulators are fair and unbiased...they would take good care of the First Amendment....





    Hey dipstick, argue reality not your "we need to tilt the field" baloney.


    The fact is that the Dems want as much money out of politics as possible.


    The wingnuts want as much money in politics as possible ... (as long as it's only for their side).


    The issue went to the USSC and you won. The political landscaped changed and 'money = speech"


    But now you don't like the fact that the Dems are allowed to play on the same new filed. You want them held at a disadvantage. You want them to play by their USSC legal briefs, not by the way the USSC ruled or the new legal definitions they created.


    For you, wingnuts asking for gov't money from a bill they outright opposed and was passed by the Dems is not hypocrisy.


    But the Dems playing by the same, new legal landscape created by USSC is somehow unfair.


    Ridiculous.





    Correction, the Dems want "GOP money" out of politics....and they want to muzzle and silence their opposition, like tinhorn dictatorships do....tossing out the 200 year old First Amendment.


    The changed landscape you mention is a bunch of crap.....the Citizens United decision didnt change much of anything, it upheld the First Amendment against Government coercion. Obama spent a record billion dollars in campaign contributions to get elected in 2008, outspending the GOP, years before Citizens United. What was his excuse back then, for taking evil corrupting "money"?


    You never answered the question:


    If big money contributions are corrupt, why do Dems take the money? By their own definition they are corrupting themselves...

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:


     


    So, again, if big money contributions are corrupt and should be banned , why does Obama jet around the country taking in big money contributions?


     




    Weren't you saying it wasn't hypocrisy for red state Rs to simultaneously lambast the stimulus and stick their hand out for stimulus funding? That they'd be stupid not to so it's OK?


     


     


     


     


     


    I know you'd prefer Ds to fall on their swords and never appear again, but....   


     


     



     


     


    The Supreme Court  and the mean Republicans made Obama attend big money fundraisers ....sound familiar? Kinda like "Bush did it".


     


    So, since Dems have to fundraise, I guess you do agree that free speech rights include the right to contribute to campaigns....but, again, only GOP big money is "corrupt".


     


    You want to turn free speech over to Federal Election Commission "campaign finance regulators"; the same ones who found leftwing moonbat Michael Moore's antiBush movie "Farenheight 9/11" not subject to campaign  restrictions as an  "electioneering communication",  but censored conservative Citizens Uniteds "Hillary: The Movie". Yessirre, those regulators are fair and unbiased...they would take good care of the First Amendment....


     





    Hey dipstick, argue reality not your "we need to tilt the field" baloney.


     


    The fact is that the Dems want as much money out of politics as possible.


     


    The wingnuts want as much money in politics as possible ... (as long as it's only for their side).


     


    The issue went to the USSC and you won. The political landscaped changed and 'money = speech"


     


    But now you don't like the fact that the Dems are allowed to play on the same new filed. You want them held at a disadvantage. You want them to play by their USSC legal briefs, not by the way the USSC ruled or the new legal definitions they created.


     


    For you, wingnuts asking for gov't money from a bill they outright opposed and was passed by the Dems is not hypocrisy.


     


    But the Dems playing by the same, new legal landscape created by USSC is somehow unfair.


     


    Ridiculous.


     





    Correction, the Dems want "GOP money" out of politics....and they want to muzzle and silence their opposition, like tinhorn dictatorships do....tossing out the 200 year old First Amendment.


     


    The changed landscape you mention is a bunch of crap.....the Citizens United decision didnt change much of anything, it upheld the First Amendment against Government coercion. Obama spent a record billion dollars in campaign contributions to get elected in 2008, outspending the GOP, years before Citizens United. What was his excuse back then, for taking evil corrupting "money"?


     


    You never answered the question:


     


    If big money contributions are corrupt, why do Dems take the money? By their own definition they are corrupting themselves...





    Because unlike the wingnuts, Dems live in reality, not some alternate version they wish were true.


    Despite their fight against more money in politics, the Dems lost, the court ruled, and there is a new political landscape.


    The Dems don't have a martyr complex and aren't going to fall on their swords just because a USSC ruling didn't go their way.


    The Dems will accept the new order, adapt their tactics, and try and beat the wingnuts at their own game.


    You, on the other hand, want to attack a party for working within this new order only because they once opposed it.


    I've never seen anyone so upset about 'winning' a USSC decsion as you are ... except you're upset that everyone gets to play under the new rules, not just the side who won.


    Classic "Careful what you wish for..." scenario.

     
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    "Dems live in reality" Hmm...Again, the Supreme Court decision has nothing to do with Obama fundraising...they got big money from crony capitalists before the Citizens United decision, and after the decision...

    Obama is taking his grassroots fight to "take money out of politics" everywhere. Per the WaPost, he has appeared at 74 fundraisers in the past year, and he is just warming up for the fall campaign.

    The fundraiser in chief appears at event where it cost $10,000 for a seat..sometimes $32,000...He is practically an honorary Hollywood celebrity, Obama jets there so often to shake down the filthy rich Holloywood tycoons...

    Reagan only did fundraisers a handful of times in his second term...of course, Reagan thought his job was to be President, not partisan hack and fundraiser in chief...

     

     
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    "Dems live in reality" Hmm...Again, the Supreme Court decision has nothing to do with Obama fundraising...they got big money from crony capitalists before the Citizens United decision, and after the decision...


    Obama is taking his grassroots fight to "take money out of politics" everywhere. Per the WaPost, he has appeared at 74 fundraisers in the past year, and he is just warming up for the fall campaign.


    The fundraiser in chief appears at event where it cost $10,000 for a seat..sometimes $32,000...He is practically an honorary Hollywood celebrity, Obama jets there so often to shake down the filthy rich Holloywood tycoons...


    Reagan only did fundraisers a handful of times in his second term...of course, Reagan thought his job was to be President, not partisan hack and fundraiser in chief...


     





    This is what is meant by "reality".... you're just trying to conflate general party fundraising with direct campaign contributions.


    General fundraising was never covered under campaign finance reform. It is a one-off that doesn't directly tie a candidate with a donor.


     

     
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